The Most EMOTIONAL RIFF In History?
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- Johnny Marr is the King of creating music through his feelings. Learn about the full story behind Johnny Marr's most emotional, favourite Smiths riff and how to play it on the guitar!
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The Riff Is by The Smiths - Last Night I Dreamt Somebody Loved Me. It's a beautiful + melancholic guitar riff that will defiantly keep you challenged for a while. Lots of open strings with stunning rub and clashing notes. Amazing chord progression too!
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johnnymarr is shit no riffs you said nothing who is
I've always thought "some girls are bigger than others" is probably my favourite Marr tune, there's just something so magical about it, he has blessed us with many amazing tunes.
Have you seen the some girls bigger than others (dance compilation) vid on TH-cam it's one of my fave vids such a great edit with the song
One of the finest trances in music👍
It's probably my favorite Smith song. It got a strong melancholy vibe.
It's a fantastic riff. I could listen to it on loop forever.
The melody has an amazing natural feel of tension and release that's laden with pathos.
This is what great art is, IMHO?.
There’s a light that never goes out.
Back to the old house.
Those two songs hold a special place in my heart🖤🖤
Suffer little children has a haunting pattern, beautiful and sad. Johnny Marr was just a young man, gifted guitarist.
thanks for sharing!
Good shout.
Beat me to it. Very unique, beautiful riff.
Suffer Little Children is beautiful to play and I believe is more melancholic than Last Night I...
Last Night... feels like it needs the full band or at least the chords also to make the riff stand out more. Whereas Suffer can stand on it's own more as just the riff.
The way Marr sings with his guitar is otherworldly
This Night Has Opened My Eyes.
What i love about the smiths is that even their energetic songs have that strong touch of depressive melancholy in it
like for example "I want the one i cant have" and "What she said" off of the meat is murder album
Believe it or not, this is the only video in TH-cam that analyzes a The Smiths chord progression this way. And it was great! Hope you do more videos like this
I was not aware and definitely lots to learn and get in the mind of Johnny Marr. Is there any Smiths track you want me to do next? I have recently just uploaded another Smiths Video th-cam.com/video/tI4svMx7P54/w-d-xo.html
@@RiffsRhythm Thanks! Yeah of course. I would recommend you Nowhere Fast, Girl Afraid, Still ill or Some girls are bigger than others!
@@Renav21 I have taken note, thank you for the suggestions and i hope you get some more value from other vids on the channel
Anyone Can Play Guitar, Sparky Guitar and Headless Guitar Player all have excellent lessons on The Smiths as well. I've been plundering youtube for a year and a half now. Also Marr himself has short clips on here and his Instagram where he will play through certain songs, no tab of course. Growing up in the nineties I had no idea what he was doing! There are numerous other channels that have Smiths covers and tab some hits and misses but the three above are consistently excellent. I do a clip of Nowhere Fast that I learned from watching Marr on my channel it's not a lesson though.Also Sped Spedding and Romain CNC have some good stuff as well. So once these guys all die and this channel of course I will be ready to start my Marr channel in earnest! hah.
@@dahliafiend hey Dahlia, thanks for the comment and thanks for sharing. We all need to do what we can to showcase this mans talent. Keep it up 👍
One of my favorite things to play along with “Some Girls are Bigger Than Others”.
I've always loved "Back To The Old House" on acoustic from Hatful of Hollow sessions,
the Jensen Session version of "Pretty Girls Make Graves",
"Well I Wonder " , "Meat Is Murder " and the maudlin mandolin of "I Wont Share You".
Back to the Old House for me. And Mozz meets Marr's genius with his own.
Very iconic and underrated riff that no one really talks about. Thanks for loving music and sharing.
Couldn't agree more! Got lots more to come!
Do you have other songs worth having a look at?
This record came out when I was in my first year in university. There was a woman in my dorm I had a huge crush on…I made a move on her and she shut it down right away, which was fine, and we stayed friends. Anyway, she had a breakdown of some sort and had to go home (for good it turned out), and this song was the soundtrack to that for me…
Thanks for sharing this personal story! Hope she was ok! But amazing how music can get you through situations and become part of the memory.
The solo right at the end of the song is soooo cathartic also. One of my favorite songs from The Smiths.
A girlfriend bought this cassette for me back in 1988 and remains one of my most favorite records. Especially this song.
I've never looked at Smiths guitar parts as being either riffs or chord progressions. With only 3 instrumentalists in the band for most of it's existence, Johnny created incredibly rich guitar parts that in a live setting served multiple sonic purposes without requiring any backing tracks.
I love this observation about his playing and yes I agree that he creates a sound stage to the music. Thanks so much for sharing!
Half a Person.. great Johnny Marr riff
This and While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Not really a Smiths' fan but this arpeggio is pure genius🔝
You can't fault the arpeggio master
It’s gorgeous and original. But also has a tinge of influence from 10cc” I’m not in love”
Alice in Chains - Nutshell must be one of the most emotional riffs out there
Thanks for sharing! I will need to go and listen to that track... does this mean I need to do a part 2?
@@RiffsRhythmyou tell us
No disrespect it’s a great song especially the version with Mark Lanegan but it’s just basic strummed acoustic not much different than every rose has its thorn.
@@dahliafiend I thought the same when I listen to this. Great tune though
@@dahliafiendIts the expressiveness if the playing that gives it its character though not just the tabbable content, chords and such, but the feel, touch, and dynamics.
Great job! Learning the triads unlocked Johnny Marr (and Bernard Butler) for me. All those sparkling notes and beautiful arpeggios are suddenly right under your fingertips. It's like magic!
Thanks so much for sharing! It's all about the arpeggios and open string chord voicings. lots of fun
Two of JM’s tunes are far more melancholy to my mind: The Hand That Rocks The Cradle, and Well I Wonder.
Thanks for sharing this!
Wow that music piece is so lovely … almost baroque style sound
It certainly takes you on a journey. Amazing sound isolated.
i was thinking about this song the whole day because it kind of fits my situation. i’ve been dreaming about being in a relationship for the last three weeks. just reminded me of the song
Life just isn’t fair
I've been dreaming about that for 25 years
That’s satan playing with your mind. Everything’s already perfect.
It is easy to dream and it is relatively easy to know what you want, but sometimes holding on to a desire is harmful because it pushes you to go down paths that are not going to help you achieve something good.
In any case, you may not even get what you want, you will just destroy yourself pursuing an impossible desire. Sometimes we just have to appreciate what we have and good things will come later on their own.
This is just free advice take it or leave it.
God has really blessed Johnny with an amazing gift for sure!
I need his talent and his signature Jag :)
That’s cool this is my favorite smiths song too. That piano intro is awesome too really captures the isolation and loneliness and Marr’s guitar captures the sadness.
couldn't of put it better myself! Thanks for sharing
My absolutely favorite Smiths song & one my fav all time songs. A true heart wrenching classic. Playing our feelings into existence is/should be the goal of all of us musicians. Thank u for this video. U got a sub.
thanks for the sub! Strong message and strong tune! Glad you liked it
Johnny Marr is a legend
Indeed. Have you checked out “The Pedal Show” interview?
Great video! Thanks! JM ranks among the best rhythm guitar player and songsmiths that ever strummed a chord on this planet.
That’s crazy because this is one of my favorite songs
I love the melancholic feeling it gives me!
100% agree with this! Thanks for the comment
I've watched TONS of guitar teachers on yt - you are extremely good, always short, which is good for attention span, & to the point. Thx.
Spencer Kissack, author.
Thanks so much that!
I love the history you weaved within this--I have desperately wanted to learn how to play this! I have subscribed and thank you for this internet gold.
Thanks so much for the comment, I really enjoyed putting this together. I hope you can now learn the parts! Anything else you would like to see?
Love how you explain this song!
Really Appreciate this! Time is well spent with comments like this.
Of course it’s an excellent song and riff is pretty on the nose(as sad songs/riffs go). To me, the jangly yet maudlin riff he plays on “Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want” induces way more feels in me. The mix of something fleeting and hopeful knowing it’s never going to happen is always the saddest thing to me.
“Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want” Its a great song too. Marr has got too many great riffs and it's great to hear others opinion so thanks for the comment :)
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I love how you went through everything that you did.
Thanks so much Jonathan. I wanted to show a journey of discovery and learning something new. There are so many interesting things we learn its really nice to make content around these so others can share the same experience.
Do you have other songs worth having a look at?
Brilliant tutorial , thank you!!
Glad it was helpful!
Another excellent video. I urge anyone casually watching this to subscribe. Absolute quality.
Thank you 🙏 really appreciate your kinds and I hope everyone who does watch it gets some value… and subscribes :)
great job, thanks for posting
Glad you enjoyed it
Amazing tune and guitar part. Lets not forget the amazing amazing solo in the live version from Marr.
yeah! it's so good isn't it! Might have to transcribe that one :)
Interestingly, that riff sounds a lot like Burzum's song, 'Epilogue' from his Uruk-Hai demo. Really fascinating to see a convergence between my two favourite bands.
From what he said were his influences, I just don't get how he got such an ethereal sound in some Smiths songs. Dude was really into making ppl have an existential crisis.
His soul slipped in the riff that day
Well said!
@@RiffsRhythm 😉👍🏻❤️
Awesome breakdown of one of the best Smiths tunes ever recorded, there are many more of course but this has always been in my top 10 without question - New Subscriber !!
Thank you so much! I have more to come too! Whats your best Smiths tune?
@@RiffsRhythm well, there's many, here is a short list off the top of my head, Headmaster Ritual, Hand In Glove, The Queen Is Dead, That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore, You Just Haven’t Earned It Yet Baby, Half a Person, What Difference Does It Make?, There Is a Light That Never Goes Out, Bigmouth Strikes Again, How Soon Is Now?, You’ve Got Everything Now, Sweet and Tender Hooligan, London, Unloveable and of course Last Night I dreamt That Somebody Loved Me
20x mate
Truly admire the way you manage to simplify this wonderful song
Now I can finally start thinking of playing this song on guitar
Again 10x
Thank you so much for the comment. I'm glad this has helped and let me know how you get on
The man is a genius.
indeed! I'm seeing him next year for the first time. Can't wait!
@riffs and rythm you found my video!!!! Cool that someone was able to pull the riff from my video
Hey Tony! Did you record this? amazing to see and hear in it's stripped back form!
We Share the Same Skies by The Cribs has an awesome riff which is also very dramatic and melancholy-sounding. Super underrated song!
Great song! Love this
Johnny tuned his guitar up a whole tone in The Smiths, which explains why you had to use a capo on the 2nd fret, and why he plays it without a capo, making it now sound too low, as he doesn't tune the guitar up two steps anymore. :)
Listening to this on a walkman aged 15, when it was released, knowing they’d broken up, walking round an empty factory, crying… Happy days!?!
They didn't break up. Marr left. Morrissey, Rourke and Joyce all played together for some time after Marr left. Marr thought he was bigger than the band. Turns out he wasn't and a career as a forgettable session guitarist followed.
Back to the old house
Suffer little children
They both make your choice sound heavenly
The acoustic version of "Back To The old House" is my favorite of his.
For me personally, it the acoustic fade in on “to live is to die” by Metallica
Interesting video. Thanks for sharing
thanks Michael I enjoyed putting it together!
Won't argue about the video's subject but NOBODY doesn't feel lifted off the sky when The Headmaster Ritual begins. That is definitely one of the most shiver-your-timbers riffs to begin an album and what the 80's were all about or certainly aspired to be.
great intro! Hits you in the face!
Death of a disco dancer my fave
Great content sir and a great riff also :)
Thank you kindly! more to come soon
Funnily enough when I saw the screenshot and the title of this vid, I thought you'd be talking about This Joke Isn't funny Anymore, where he plays the chorus chord progression earlier in the same clip. That's one from that clip that grabbed me in exactly the same way as you were grabbed by "Last Night...", with me thinking it was the most emotional progression I'd ever heard and running off to learn the chords. Also spectacular.
Yes that is was on my radar put this personally spoke to me more. Hope you enjoyed the video
all smiths song are pretty solid - they were a class act.
Here here! Too many to choice from
Yes
I was intrigued and had a guess. I thought the video was going to be about 'Back To The Old House'.
The version on Hatful of Hollow is brilliant - don't care for the singing much, but the guitar is wonderful
Underrated channel
thanks so much for the comment this means alot
This is a great vid. Much prefer this over millions of blues vids.
Thank you 🙏 lots more to come too😎 let me know if you have any suggestions
for me the most emotional riff in history is "Brett Anderson - Back To You"
Back to the Old House, and Sing Me to Sleep are also very sad riffs.
Asleep is a great song! thanks for sharing
i think "i know it's over" it's the saddest in terms of lyrics but then i'm wrong
Thanks for sharing.
I think it sounds more emotional on J Marr videos because he does not use a capo to play at a lower key (while using a capo with The Smiths, as also seen in any tutorial)
Yes he tunes his guitar up a whole tone.
amazing track....from my fav Smiths album.
indeed! Fav album from The Smiths?
@@RiffsRhythm yeah, absolutely, ive been round the houses a thousand times since the late 80s on this, and it always comes back to Strangeways...i'm kinda settled on it now. It just has something magic in it for me...the rest do too, but Strangeways just has a feeling i cant describe.
Thanks for sharing and I hope you enjoy the content!
Thanks for this , there is another video by someone else which isn't correct imo , this seems . Glad I found your channel mate , lifelong smiths fan who is a beginner on the guitar . Much appreciated. I'll prob join the patreon when I figure out which one to drop .
Thanks so much for the comment. I have lots more smiths material coming up. Patreon is a great to join the community and get all the tabs and have your say what you want to see. Hope to see you there.
you NEED TO listen to the sunlotus cover.
Space Oddity- Saigon Kick version, is one. My Iron Lung- Radio Head is another.
Johnny was self taught - he's a wizard.
Learning from the records, old school way. Always trying to find his voice and his message too!
Really interesting video. I’ve discovered I’ve been playing it slightly wrong. Cheers. 👍
Thank you, the main thing is getting the vibe of the riff down. Hope this has helped though with exactly how he plays it!
For me is Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want … and JM does live version with a minute dreamlike guitar intro.
Yep I have transcribed that already... great version
This was interesting to watch as someone with musical anhedonia.
Thanks for the comment? Excuse my ignorance but this means you don’t connect with music?
@@RiffsRhythm I just don't react emotionally to it, it doesn't make me feel anything on that level. I can appreciate it intellectually, but it doesn't ever make me feel happy or sad, etc.
@@wheedler I see now. Thanks for sharing this info and now I have learnt something. Hope you enjoyed the video
Gorgeous
I guess your talking about the song and not me :)
@@RiffsRhythm both lol
@thecolonade haha 😂
Radiohead before radiohead ever radioheaded anywhere.
I heard he's doing another album with modest mouse!
LOW's cover of this song is outstqnding.
Coldplay-sparks
Radiohead-creep
Radiohead-fake plastic trees
Muse-unintended
Jeff Buckley-Lilac Wine
Adoy-Swim
A couple of songs that came to my mind as one of the most melancholic/depressive chord progressions.
solid choices! I love Unintended - Muse. Thats a great chord progressions. Remember teaching that years ago and a song that you don't hear often that deserves more credit I think. Never heard Adoy - Swim, so i'll give that a listen. Thanks for sharing
soad, loneliest day of my life, sounds reminiscent of this imho
Strangeways here we come is my favorite smiths album even tho its considered their old ball album
thanks for sharing!
"This night has opened my eyes" is the saddest Smith's song for me 😢 and "Hatful of hollow" their best record... 'Save your life cos you've only got one ...'
thanks for sharing this!
Да, песня очень душевная
to me Back to the old house is sadder.
Thats a beautiful song. However I feel its very diatonic compared to the riff in Last Night I Dreamt... It has this twist going the minor iv then into major iv to resolve back which makes Last Night stand out in my opinion.
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I’m pretty sure has some Chopin’s influence
I think David Bowie's favourite Smiths song? Nice vid.
really! I must look that up. That's a pretty cool fact, thanks for sharing
"I know its over' is another sad one from 'The Queen Is Dead'..and the outro of 'Pretty Girls Make Graves'....
Thanks for sharing!
@@RiffsRhythm no worries big smiths fan from 1988..pity I missed them live...
Oh man! 1 year too late. I had to look up, the last gig was 12th Dec 86 in Brixton!
Oh man! So close, I had to look it up and the last gig was 12th Dec 86 in Brixton
@@RiffsRhythm Im from N Ireland and they last played I think in 1986 and apparently as was with the punk scene they would spit on the artists.
I heard that Morrissey and JM were that pissed off they said they'd not be back, I dont think they did come back.
Would love to have seen them though.
It was all aboutThe Smiths and Echo and The Bunnymen for me , then I got deeper into The Waterboys This IsThe Sea album.
Thanks for sharing I’ll go and give that album a spin
This actually sounds happy to me. Please, Please, Please, Let Me Get What I Want is a lot more sad than this is.
Quite a few have suggested this! I did do a follow up with Please Please, Please th-cam.com/video/tI4svMx7P54/w-d-xo.html
Needle in the hay_ Elliot Smith
Never heard, I’ll go and give it a spin. Thanks so much for sharing
@riffs &rythm looks like the video I posted of Johnny Marr playing the riff.
That joke isn't funny anymore is the one for me 👌
Back to the old house has the saddest Smith’s guitar riff
i did i follow up to this which I included Back to the old house.
: I'm not particularly fond of the studio version of the track, but I did see him play this live in 2019, and it was stunning - precisely because the guitar was so up front.
Nice! I'm seeing him next year and I really hope he plays this!
I like to listen to the Smiths when I'm drunk! sounds the best.
Actually I think "that joke isn't funny anymore" is superior: there is some unmatched magical sadness in that song but, whatever...with Johnny Marr you really can't go wrong anyway...
The reason why it sounds so melancholy is due to the minor plagal cadence. E minor and G major are essentially the same key. The IV chord is C major and when it moves to C minor and back to home base, which in this case is E minor you have a minor plagal cadence. The IV chord going to a minor iv chord and then resolving to the key center is always melancholy and perhaps the most beautiful of the cadences.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge on this. It's great to have a community where we can all learn from each other.
Some argued it was Marr's GoTHiC masterpiece but Morrissey's heart wasn't in it as much. It is by far more memorable for it's instrumental aspects. "There is a light..." by contrast is far more Morrissey than Marr
It's the C minor for me.
Nigel Tufnel will disagree :)
for all johnny fans.i cant believe THE THE .never gets a mention.i think its johnny really letting it go.checck out .infected,soul mining.mind bomb albums.please dont forget to thank me later.i,ll be waiting.
Never really listened to them so I’ll go and check those albums. Thanks for sharing