All player stats driven - which is the WORST way to balance a game... If the game was balanced properly you'd have absolute anarchy for months, particularly from German and Russian players; because a lot of their vehicles are grossly undertiered due to being played by more new / bad players that tank the stats. It's unbelievable how much hand holding those nations gets with their vehicles. A lot of skilled players maining countries like France and Britain, where their vehicles are nerfed into the ground by Gaijin due to inflated stats when they're facing blind players in ground RB maining Germany etc.
I played it a ton right after it got moved to 7.3 and I can confidently say it’s pretty damn strong mainly due to the engine power and speed compared to everything else
Man, I’m digging the new intros! As someone who only started WT about 6 months ago, I love the background/history/context on a plane with the vapor wave background before jumping into the gameplay+commentary. 👏🏼👏🏼 Thank you!
That LA-200 fully tried stealing your kill while he was flatspinning and you were .4km away. What makes you think he was using any braincells whatsoever that game when he took the headon with the IL-28 lmao. Love the new intro btw
The F2H-2 has become one of, if not, my favorite low-tier jet in the entire game and I'm glad it's at 7.3 where it belongs IMO. I can't believe Gaijin actually put this thing up at 8.3 at some time which is just absurd. No way it could compete with the fighters in that bracket. Here's hoping it stays at 7.3, because I want to be able to fly it out without getting sad.
@@jpc6485Honestly fair, the Banshee could go up to 7.7 and it'd still be fine. Anything higher than that is absurd though. Although I do think the Banshee fits in right at 7.3, jack of all trades but master of none which still takes skill to fly.
the F2H-2 is definitely an interesting one, it sits in a spot where it can be really strong at its B.R or in a downtier but gets bullied by SU-11's and LA-200's in an uptier and planes that are way more capable then itself. I love it
I got this thing as my first jet when it was at 7.7 and I thought it was a bad jet but then I remembered at the time of course I was new to jet’s I know some of you will say skill issue get better at the game lmao but there is a lot to learn from going to prop’s to jet’s
4:50 sad that while more RP is gained from more time spent in match, so many people still play the game like a coin flip fest where they just churn through the head-ons one after the other and sometimes come out the other end of the joust with their plane intact. Early jets is roughly about the time where the game starts to get really grindy, though.
3:33 You know the way I view kill stealing is that it's like eating off another person's plate. VERY DAMN RUDE. At least the dude was bad enough that he didn't manage to steal the kill.
You can treat this aircraft as the early preparation for the later American turn fighters like F-5E and F-16ADF. It has good energy retention, great climb rate and the sustain turn rate is superb for it's tier.
I had a funny experience recently. I started playing warthunder again after years (left at tier 2😂) and have been grinding it a bit (tier 3 Russia, tier 4 us, tier 3 tanks in russia). But I remember getting into a lobby with my brand new tier 4 naval fighter and just slowly climbing at the start of the match. Saw the other planes, started diving as I got into fights and suddenly I had a mini heart attack. As I take out a Yak, I look behind me and see a red dot come closer at what feels like lightspeed to a dude that just spent all his energy to win a 2v2. As I see him go from 2km to 1km away within the same time span it took me to accelerate by 50 km/h... I started accepting my fate😂 I actually appreciate how those first pilots must have felt when a jet just rushed past them with that beautiful sound. Terrifying if it's coming after you tho😂 Meanwhile, I have a 4.0, 4.3, 5.0, 5.0, and 6.3. Vs, 2 jets... kinda felt unfair😂 (Before you ask, I prefer the P-51 nustang with canons over the other stuff I have unlocked after it, that's why I have low levels along with the higher ones).
2x1400 kgf engine thats the strongest thing about this plane. Most things at this br has 1x1600 or 2x800. You wont out turn anyone straight up. But you can energy fight really well. Key is to lure them into fight and make them bleed energy while keeping speed above 500kph otherwise your a brick. After the energy bleed you can recharge speed by small jinking, while doing this 10 degree climb allow you climb decently without losing speed. Once you reach 700 kph, you can decide the fight against the now limp low energy enemy. Few other tips, airbreak and lowering throttle help in hard corner turn. But dont over do it unless ur starting from 700 kph.
It and the F9F-2 are my favorite jets but I don't see why the F9F-2 is at 8.0, i understand the -5 is but the -2 is about the same capability as this thing
I really like early jets, but the battles are so boring. You take a lot of time to reach the battlefield, the fight lasts less than 5 minutes, and then there will always be a Tu-4 or a B-29 camping at around 14.000m
@@_Joob Really? I've managed to have a fair experience with it honestly. The engines are fairly strong for a 7.0 and it seems to retain energy well, maneuverability won't be winning you any ballets but it's enough to handle 262s, Su-11s and the like. AN/M2s are beautiful as usual and you get plenty of ammo. The air spawn is also very helpful and really allows for a significant altitude boost. I play it the same way I'd play a P-51, very aggressive boom-n-zoom and head-ons with targets that are too agile or too fast, and turn fights with the bulky jets stupid enough to do so. I've actually gotten some pretty high kill games with it in the past. Granted, I'm also the kind of individual who actively enjoys using the Skyraider as a fighter, lol
I got this when it was 8.0 or 8.3 i can’t remember and i remember it was bad (or i was just bad) so i never played but when it got moved down i started to play it again and i love it
It used to be so good. I remember getting aces in this thing just because people didn't expect it to pop flaps and have a stall speed lower than a biplane.
I got this plane back in the days as my first main jet. Everone hated on it and it had a bad reputation... I did better in it than in the p80 (F80 today) or any other early jet. Worked for me.. I remember the guns to be a bit shot gun like.
F2H will always be one of my favorites as it was my first jet in WT. I was using just like you were to grind the F2 Sabre and it was a great platform. It was usually the fastest jet at around 7.0 so it was pretty easy to win if you kept your speed.
its because they keep changing the flight model, if you go year by year this plane goes from energy fighting mig 15 non bis, trough outspeeding the mig 9, to out turning the meteor mk3. the same applies for its battle ratings, it ranged from fighting mig 17s trough mig 9s meteors and me 262s down to prop planes. Imo, its first itteration was its best performance spot and br spot both. These days its arguably in its worst performance spot, hence its 7.3, a battle rating completely ridicolous for a plane of its power and max speed.
I think people forgot that this plane went even up to 8.3 for a short period of time. Of course that was when I was still trying to spade it. Still love the plane tho
I played the F2H-2 when it was 8.3 as my first jet in the entire game, and I was trying to figure out whether it was me that was trash, or the plane. It turned out to be the BR that was trash(And myself too.)
I've been playing WT for a long time and it seems like the number of teammates/enemies who full commit head on is higher than ever. There are matches where half the team is vaporized in the first furball (and I'm not talking about missile thunder). Maybe this is rose tinted glasses, but I don't remember it being like this years ago. Perhaps players coming into this game nowadays just don't take the time or care about learning to dogfight properly. Many of the head ons I see in matches are totally avoidable.
F2h is generally average in flight performance It does have good thrust, and accelerates well Also it can pull very high gs at speeds above 450mph do wing break. This is why i'd like the F9F to get this BR matches more often. They've always been the underdog
I’ll tell you why you won both of those fights in the last part of the video, the plane can decide if you win or lose, but 99.999999 percent of the time, it’s the player
As a low tier grinder, Gaijin has no idea how to balance anything at all. BR is absolutely meaningless. Russian planes are basically x wings and US planes lose 50% energy if you even touch the stick.
I swear that gaijins decides brs of some planes by throwing a dart and seeing where it lands
B29's can see AIM-9B's.
All player stats driven - which is the WORST way to balance a game...
If the game was balanced properly you'd have absolute anarchy for months, particularly from German and Russian players; because a lot of their vehicles are grossly undertiered due to being played by more new / bad players that tank the stats. It's unbelievable how much hand holding those nations gets with their vehicles.
A lot of skilled players maining countries like France and Britain, where their vehicles are nerfed into the ground by Gaijin due to inflated stats when they're facing blind players in ground RB maining Germany etc.
@@WordedDrakeso what?
It was designed to do exactly that.
Shooting bombers from outside thier defence range.
@@WordedDrakef3h-2s can see aim 9Ls 😅😅
you forgot how their guided you idiot, AIM-9B's are IR guided and propeller aircraft almost have NO heat coming outta them for long ranges
This thing used to be 8.0 in sabre v mig days. 7.3 sounds sweet.
The Sabre and MiG used to be 9.0 in those days, so really it hasn’t changed.
I played it a ton right after it got moved to 7.3 and I can confidently say it’s pretty damn strong mainly due to the engine power and speed compared to everything else
the F2H was my first jet in War Thunder and that was back in the days where top tier was Mig-15 vs Sabre on Korea
It was such a fun plane back then
It's insanely fucking OP at 7.3
flying vs mig15s su11s la200s and other russian bias is still a pain
Man, I’m digging the new intros! As someone who only started WT about 6 months ago, I love the background/history/context on a plane with the vapor wave background before jumping into the gameplay+commentary. 👏🏼👏🏼 Thank you!
Same dude, giving off popo medic vibes with the fantastic edits!
Same bro
love these early jet dogfights, def my favorite part of warthunder to play aswell
8.0 performance with pilots who would die to 6.0
that means it should go to 7.0 /s
More like 7.7 tbh
Joob ascending above and beyond with the soundtrack and edit in his reviews lol i love this shid
By this point the b29 at 7.3 is just a free kill in air rb for the enemies
it's a free kill by default not gonna lie
Good vid! you have been improving! keep up the good work. btw those dogfights at the end were awesome
That LA-200 fully tried stealing your kill while he was flatspinning and you were .4km away. What makes you think he was using any braincells whatsoever that game when he took the headon with the IL-28 lmao. Love the new intro btw
Thanks for the high quality videos and the great intro you've started doing
Really appreciate it and enjoy the videos
New intro format is so cool!!
I think gaijin should put this in my hanger, that would be a good spot
The F2H-2 has become one of, if not, my favorite low-tier jet in the entire game and I'm glad it's at 7.3 where it belongs IMO. I can't believe Gaijin actually put this thing up at 8.3 at some time which is just absurd. No way it could compete with the fighters in that bracket. Here's hoping it stays at 7.3, because I want to be able to fly it out without getting sad.
It's pretty overpowered at 7.3 though. This video and most of these comments don't seem to think that but it's true.
@@jpc6485Honestly fair, the Banshee could go up to 7.7 and it'd still be fine. Anything higher than that is absurd though.
Although I do think the Banshee fits in right at 7.3, jack of all trades but master of none which still takes skill to fly.
@@jpc6485 It faces a lot of other 7.3-8.3 jets anyway. The downtiers are very rare.
I Really liked the editing style in the intro
Im loving the new intros! keep it up man
the F2H-2 is definitely an interesting one, it sits in a spot where it can be really strong at its B.R or in a downtier but gets bullied by SU-11's and LA-200's in an uptier and planes that are way more capable then itself.
I love it
su11 is the same br as it and theyre pretty equally matched
@@stephenallen4635ain't no way the su11 is equal to the f2h2 lmao
@@NarwhaI95 well it is, deal with it
@@stephenallen4635 🤡
Dude thank you for the video and introducing me to the song Saturn mirage
9:24 literally just being a very skilled pilot will triumph over better planes a lot of the time
Never really did play this aircraft too much I should probably fly it again soon, but I love the new intro styles though its beautiful!
That intro was awesome, keep it up
I got this thing as my first jet when it was at 7.7 and I thought it was a bad jet but then I remembered at the time of course I was new to jet’s I know some of you will say skill issue get better at the game lmao but there is a lot to learn from going to prop’s to jet’s
4:50 sad that while more RP is gained from more time spent in match, so many people still play the game like a coin flip fest where they just churn through the head-ons one after the other and sometimes come out the other end of the joust with their plane intact. Early jets is roughly about the time where the game starts to get really grindy, though.
I'm a fan of the banshee, but I got a crate talisman for the F-84 and I doubt I'll ever go back to that bracket
FINALY A VID ABOUT THIS MONSTER
3:33 You know the way I view kill stealing is that it's like eating off another person's plate. VERY DAMN RUDE. At least the dude was bad enough that he didn't manage to steal the kill.
You can treat this aircraft as the early preparation for the later American turn fighters like F-5E and F-16ADF.
It has good energy retention, great climb rate and the sustain turn rate is superb for it's tier.
Great climb rate? Na im always outclimbed 😅
Love the video keep it up my man ❤️
Loving these new intros
damn! loved the intro fr
The sea venom whiffed that so hard I physically cringed
I had a funny experience recently. I started playing warthunder again after years (left at tier 2😂) and have been grinding it a bit (tier 3 Russia, tier 4 us, tier 3 tanks in russia).
But I remember getting into a lobby with my brand new tier 4 naval fighter and just slowly climbing at the start of the match.
Saw the other planes, started diving as I got into fights and suddenly I had a mini heart attack. As I take out a Yak, I look behind me and see a red dot come closer at what feels like lightspeed to a dude that just spent all his energy to win a 2v2.
As I see him go from 2km to 1km away within the same time span it took me to accelerate by 50 km/h... I started accepting my fate😂
I actually appreciate how those first pilots must have felt when a jet just rushed past them with that beautiful sound. Terrifying if it's coming after you tho😂
Meanwhile, I have a 4.0, 4.3, 5.0, 5.0, and 6.3. Vs, 2 jets... kinda felt unfair😂
(Before you ask, I prefer the P-51 nustang with canons over the other stuff I have unlocked after it, that's why I have low levels along with the higher ones).
2x1400 kgf engine thats the strongest thing about this plane. Most things at this br has 1x1600 or 2x800.
You wont out turn anyone straight up. But you can energy fight really well.
Key is to lure them into fight and make them bleed energy while keeping speed above 500kph otherwise your a brick.
After the energy bleed you can recharge speed by small jinking, while doing this 10 degree climb allow you climb decently without losing speed.
Once you reach 700 kph, you can decide the fight against the now limp low energy enemy.
Few other tips, airbreak and lowering throttle help in hard corner turn. But dont over do it unless ur starting from 700 kph.
8:18 that stall battle stares getting dicey😭💯
It and the F9F-2 are my favorite jets but I don't see why the F9F-2 is at 8.0, i understand the -5 is but the -2 is about the same capability as this thing
Very Nice intro man 💪🏻
I really like early jets, but the battles are so boring. You take a lot of time to reach the battlefield, the fight lasts less than 5 minutes, and then there will always be a Tu-4 or a B-29 camping at around 14.000m
to me early jet battles are one of the most fun i can have
@@oskarpiskorek9945 I am now enjoying the Yak-23, it plays much like an early jet but very strong at 8.7, is basically budget Ariete
F2H-2 Banshee is actually one of my personal favorites
I'm curious how the F2H Banshee compares to the F3D Skyknight. They both seem like they share a similar set of pros and cons for their BR.
F3D is like steamy dog poo
@@_Joob Really? I've managed to have a fair experience with it honestly. The engines are fairly strong for a 7.0 and it seems to retain energy well, maneuverability won't be winning you any ballets but it's enough to handle 262s, Su-11s and the like. AN/M2s are beautiful as usual and you get plenty of ammo. The air spawn is also very helpful and really allows for a significant altitude boost. I play it the same way I'd play a P-51, very aggressive boom-n-zoom and head-ons with targets that are too agile or too fast, and turn fights with the bulky jets stupid enough to do so. I've actually gotten some pretty high kill games with it in the past.
Granted, I'm also the kind of individual who actively enjoys using the Skyraider as a fighter, lol
I used it to farm F86F2 when it was the top
I remember when the F2HIV was a plane to be feared it was so OP nobody knew heo to counter it
why do I feel like you've just found popomedic
I got this when it was 8.0 or 8.3 i can’t remember and i remember it was bad (or i was just bad) so i never played but when it got moved down i started to play it again and i love it
"full commit headon" is the real name of this patch. Wtf did they put in the water?
Nice vid!
Because you're good!
It used to be so good. I remember getting aces in this thing just because people didn't expect it to pop flaps and have a stall speed lower than a biplane.
If you remove the extra fuel tanks by creating a custom payload loadout it's performance increases significantly
Despite never being the best jets I like the 7.3-8.3 US naval jets. They’re just generally fun.
The F9F-8 Cougar is my favorite of the panther line
I got it as my first jet when it was 8.0
I got this plane back in the days as my first main jet. Everone hated on it and it had a bad reputation... I did better in it than in the p80 (F80 today) or any other early jet. Worked for me..
I remember the guns to be a bit shot gun like.
Intro and music theme are excellent
Why did you take the fuel pods? It's more maneuverable without them FYI
F2H will always be one of my favorites as it was my first jet in WT. I was using just like you were to grind the F2 Sabre and it was a great platform. It was usually the fastest jet at around 7.0 so it was pretty easy to win if you kept your speed.
You’re over using flaps, only use them to pull extra for the shot or if you need to bleed speed, they kill your turn rate and slow you down a lot
These new intros do be badass
the F2H BR pains me because it's such a cool plane but gaijin just bounces around. i think 7.3 is a good BR for it, not quite the 8.0 of the F9F
The intro was fire
its because they keep changing the flight model, if you go year by year this plane goes from energy fighting mig 15 non bis, trough outspeeding the mig 9, to out turning the meteor mk3.
the same applies for its battle ratings, it ranged from fighting mig 17s trough mig 9s meteors and me 262s down to prop planes.
Imo, its first itteration was its best performance spot and br spot both.
These days its arguably in its worst performance spot, hence its 7.3, a battle rating completely ridicolous for a plane of its power and max speed.
I think people forgot that this plane went even up to 8.3 for a short period of time. Of course that was when I was still trying to spade it. Still love the plane tho
why are you flying with fuel tanks?
before i watch this video i would like to fully say that this bih sits beautifully at 7.3
I played the F2H-2 when it was 8.3 as my first jet in the entire game, and I was trying to figure out whether it was me that was trash, or the plane. It turned out to be the BR that was trash(And myself too.)
video quality damn improved so much
i like the new intro style
i refused to play this aircraft for years due to it being broken af for over a year or two
A nice fresh new video! 😎
Is this a good introductory plane for jets?
I still remember it being OP long time ago
I've been playing WT for a long time and it seems like the number of teammates/enemies who full commit head on is higher than ever. There are matches where half the team is vaporized in the first furball (and I'm not talking about missile thunder). Maybe this is rose tinted glasses, but I don't remember it being like this years ago. Perhaps players coming into this game nowadays just don't take the time or care about learning to dogfight properly. Many of the head ons I see in matches are totally avoidable.
pls do a vid on the f104, i know you dont want to play it but i dont know weather to buy it or not "for my first rank 6"
F2h is generally average in flight performance
It does have good thrust, and accelerates well
Also it can pull very high gs at speeds above 450mph do wing break.
This is why i'd like the F9F to get this BR matches more often. They've always been the underdog
What about the f89d? A double premium nerfed into near unusability
f2h was my first jet
The sea venom is pretty much just a better looking vampire at a better br.
What an intro!
Sea vixen completely threw lmao
I’ll tell you why you won both of those fights in the last part of the video, the plane can decide if you win or lose, but 99.999999 percent of the time, it’s the player
Cool intro!
great video
60 hours in and I’m 2 planes off tier V completely ftp, it’s agony I just want tier VI lmao
I know it’s only been 2 months, but you should play the Sabre again :)
New intro is fire🔥🔥🔥
Man, you should try Sea Venom. It used to be the worst jet in the game, but it isn't anymore!
British jet that isn't slow, yet still turns well!
W OUTRO!!
Lol. I remember getting this and crying on how the anm3s suck XD
Lol I either player top tier or props no inbetween😂, guess it also heavily depends on what nations you play but most nations early jets are pretty mid
Your giving me unhealthy expectations for this jet when I know for a fact that it isn't really great.
Poor 关山月Ec got killed twice. First in the spitfire and again in the meteor.😂
I once put a 150% sl booster in this and I got 7 kills, reaping 200k sl.
Hi I’m your biggest fan
How tall are you?
I have 3” fan blades 😎
F2h-2 is good i guess it is just that I suck that I always die in it
i rememebr dogfighting this often in my Meteor Mk3 over Guam (Prep for hokkido)
I despise grinding lol but i refuse to spend $60-70 on a single in game item when i could buy a whole new game.
And will single game provide you as much hours of playtime as single premium that will grind you entire tech tree and drown you in SL?
damn those intros are creamy
You said you sucked at that point of the game when the Sabre was the king… what did you do to get better
you should play see venom
This plane kicks my Su-11 ass all the time
As a low tier grinder, Gaijin has no idea how to balance anything at all. BR is absolutely meaningless.
Russian planes are basically x wings and US planes lose 50% energy if you even touch the stick.
This is my first jet :)
thanks im grinding it rn
Still faces missiles and broken under tiered jets