there is no real china anymore anyway, just remnants, ccp destroyed most temples, significant landmarks, eradicated alot of traditions, persecuted people who practiced them etc, it's turning into a souless communist hellhole, with hazzardous pollution in air, water and earth. Did you know there are no birds in most china cities? that's right, even in nature, pollution killed of wildlife.
@@icet6665 Started what? Who started a war against China? When you're done with that answer this.. WHO started a war against Taiwan? Who started a war against Tibet?
@@rogerdodger8415 THE AMERICAN MILITARY INDUSTRY IS KEEN ON STARTING A NEW WAR TO PROMOTE ITS ARMAMENTS. PLEASE READ A BIT ABOUT CHINA'S CIVIL WAR AND HOW THE KUO MING T ANG LOST THE CIVILWAR ON MAINLAND CHINA AND FLED TO TAIWAN, THE TAIWANESE WERE FORMER SUPPORTES OF THE KMT AND FOR YOU INFORMATION, TIBET WAS PART OF CHINA DURING THE QING DYNASTY. ANY MORE HISTORY LESSONS FOR YOU?
Of all the places in the world I can go as a tourist, why in the hell would I go to a police state with bad air pollution and restrooms that consist of a hole in the floor?
your info is about 15 years out of date. You can still find those terrifying "restrooms" out in rural areas, but everything in the cities has been modernized. The gutter oil was a real thing, but hasn't really existed for about a decade, and the air pollution is still pretty bad, but not epically so any more since they outlawed burning coal for heat like 7 or 8 years ago (all natural gas now), and all taxis and public transport are electric now...like 99%. The worst air in all of China is Guangzhou, and it's ranked 28th, meaning better air than Jurusalem or Nagoya, in Japan. The only complaint of yours that is still true is the form of govt.
@@franciscocz8384 Everyone knows that. Trust in China has declined to the point that people do not wish to risk something like that happening to them. Even Hong Kong is struggling to regain tourist numbers because China removed the legal firewall between the Mainland and Hong Kong. It might be exaggerated, but not entirely groundless. In the past, I would never have hesitated to go to China. Now? I might still go, but I feel uneasy.
@jordie4423 I can’t believe how rapidly development is moving in the Philippines. It has almost doubled in size in the last eight years can’t believe the skyline downtown it’s slowly growing into a little Tokyo…
I'd love to visit a place where the people were indoctrinated to hate me, unequivocally suspected me of espionage and routinely detain people for no reason at all. Wouldn't you?
It's almost like if you hassle overseas tourists and treat them all like spies, they may not want to come and visit. Who would have thought? Pooh keeps digging the hole deeper.
Nevermind that one service man who thought it wise to run across the border. Still wonder what was going through his mind that made him think NK was a good idea...
Considering China's new national security law, its ability to classify anything as spying, and its track record of hostage diplomacy, can you blame foreign tourists for going elsewhere?
That pretty much sums it up. The people who want to visit didn’t change, or not much…they just correctly saw how aggressive and xenophobic China was getting, and smartly said “nope.” The CCP ratcheted up the war-like rhetoric and scape-goating (every problem in China is due to the US, according to the CCP), and no surprise foreigners left. Most no one wants to visit or move to N. Korea, and China is becoming more like N. Korea every day. And with the vague Chinese espionage act….having a camera would qualify you as a spy they can use as a pawn.
God forbid you made fun of China in the past and they detain you for "espionage". If I know anything about China, it's that they are petty as fuck when it comes to things they find offensive or disrespectful towards China
After the world has seen how CCP treats it's own people, I'm surprised it's not 100% decline... nothing will change until the people stand up for themselves
Bro i feel you. It's how I feel about all of those african countries being terrorized by the Wagner Group on behalf of China's debt trap diplomacy. Why are they making deals with the devil?
I guess this is what happens when you despise foreigners, accuse them of spying non-stop (purest projection), and your police harass them constantly, telling them to leave. I guess this is what happens when your country falls victim to non-stop corruption, and the tofu dreg projects become all the projects. I am now consciously boycotting Chinese products wherever possible, and I will pay more for a product from Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, India or other friendly country. I feel a little sorry for the Chinese people, whose suffering is about to become truly epic. I do not think they can revolt against the CCP, as the CCP has no problem murdering hundreds of thousands, or indeed, tens of millions of people to remain in power.
DUDE, STOP CONSUMING TOO MANY SERPENTZA VIDEOS AND FALUN GONG CULT CHANNELS LIKE THIS ONE. BETTER IF YOU LOOK FOR FOREIGN VLOGGERS WHO HAVE VISISTED CHINA.
I boycott Chinese products now BECAUSE I lived there and saw how they treat their people. And I went to China open-minded. Usually, living in a country makes people more friendly toward the place. With China, it has done the opposite.
A lot of Shanghai expats, including myself, went through horrible experiences during the 2022 lockdowns. We all made sure to tell everyone in our home countries.
@@albanloriotThe only reason why you weren’t forced to get the injection was because the CCP couldn’t broker an acceptable deal with Pfizer or Moderna. Sinovax was a horrible failure of a vaccine and the CCP knew it. They badly wanted to vaccinate their populace with the mRNA vaccine types but were shut down by Pfizer and Moderna. If a deal had been reached, believe me, the CCP would have also required the jab.
you have to be mentally ill to go there, they can arrest you for infinite number of things, even if it's not your fault and you'll be extorted at best or jailed for god knows how long and your embassy won't be able to do anything.
It does not take a genius to realize that a nation that chose to become hostile against most of the world would become an undesirable destination for tourists, no matter how wonderful the sights might be. As a tourist you simply avoid places where you don't feel safe. There are plenty of other places to visit.
how do you know if you're not a spy? Why not visit China, and ask them. If they for whatever reason, like you, you may win a jackpot: a lifetime stay in one of their 'hotels'. They so love you they won't let you go.
Well, one of my friends is a lead engineer and in a management position in a multiple billion dollar sales volume company. He's been to china this year! They have and will keep investing there. I warned him. But what do I know, right? Also he has been scammed for a couple thousand dollars there, by one of the oldest tricks in the book. But I'm not the highly educated person as he is. So yeah, I'm waiting till it hits them, then I'll get a call. "How did you know? "
I think as a small business you can still bring some products to China and sell them, short term investments. but as you mention, long term investment in infraestructure is pretty hard. you can also find some good manufacturers to export from China, but you do need someone here to supervise ad be in constant touch with them.
I lived in China from 2017-2022 and visited there 6 times before that starting from 2003. It's not the same place as when I first went in terms of how they view foreigners. I'd LOVE to go back but after making a few relatively innocuous posts online (this one added) I'm concerned about what could happen. I used to tell people, China's fine, people can post polite criticism as long as they don't organize. Not anymore, everything could have a repercussion. I think a WuMao reading this and saying "we don't want you back anyways", would just validate my point. I know it would just be a CCP WuMao and not the average kind-hearted China but they are in control now and spreading the hate and propaganda.
I lived in China for ten years and visited the country twice before that. On my first visit in 2003 China was an exciting, curious and vibrant country with relatively minimal censorship. When I left China in 2018 it had completely changed. You could feel the opression and see the anxiety on peoples faces. All the curiosity and vibrancy was fast disappearing. I have vowed never to visit China again unless it becomes a democracy or very least rid it's self of the Communist Party.
The hate propaganda, for me, is truly heartbreaking. Recently a 5 year old relative of mine in China was asked by an auntie if she would like to visit me in my home country (in 'the West') she replied "no, I hate that country, I only love the motherland". If this is what 5 year old children are being taught now then how hostile will China become in the future? It's scary. Like you say, even polite criticism is now not tolerated. I noticed that recently people are scared of even mentioning certain subjects in public places for fear of eavesdroppers. It was never quite this bad prior to Covid. China, I feel, is going the way of North Korea...
@@RoyalMICHAEL Hehe, nah, I'm quite outspoken myself, was 'shushed' a few times by friends when mentioning the name of a certain honey loving bear in public. Think the paranoid ones are the people drafting laws and making advertising campaigns encouraging the whole population to spy on each other. Beware the 'black hand' of 'nefarious foreign forces' woooo. That kind of thing tends to put a damper on political discussions. As for 'stoned', don't think many people consume marijuana in China, which is a shame as it could prove useful in dislodging the proverbial sticks from people's backsides and making them a bit more laid back...
"I used to tell people, China's fine, people can post polite criticism as long as they don't organize." Why are first world, middle-class citizens so incentivized to justify and promote terrible regimes? The amounts of time I had to listen to an american, canadian or europeans blatangly promoting terrible regimes from the comfort of a capitalist free market democracy is insane.
I lived in China for ten years and visited the country twice before that. On my first visit in 2003 China was an exciting, curious and vibrant country with relatively minimal censorship. When I left China in 2018 it had completely changed. You could feel the opression and see the anxiety on peoples faces. All the curiosity and vibrancy was fast disappearing. I have vowed never to visit China again unless it becomes a democracy or very least rid it's self of the Communist Party.
I went to Shanghai and Guangzhou as a private tourist. Arriving to Shanghai was not to bad. I went to Russia about 10 years before and it was very difficult in enter as a tourist. I spent hours waiting and answering the same questions in Russia but entry into China was not a problem. I took a cab to the well-known hotel which, again, was easy. The cab driver spoke some English and was very welcoming. After that, everything changed. I felt that I was singled out as a mark by every vendor. I was given less food than Chinese people and charged much more. I tried to buy some souvenirs but I knew I was being ripped off by most people. I ended up eating at Japanese restaurants because at least there I didn’t think I was being taken advantage of. Every cab driver, except for the first man, didn’t have change, spoke zero English, and would put on the meter. When I arrived at Guangzhou, there were at least 50 cabs and there was an English sign saying to make sure they use the meter. No one would. I went to the police station next to the cabs and they completely ignored me. I ended up with two other parties in my cab and I had to paid for the who,e ride. When I left, the hotel made the taxi turn on the meter but the man charged me double what the meter said. I will never return to China as long as I live.
Too horrible and sorry for you. Why not visit the Philippines and have every minute a leisure and pleasure of your own choice where Filipinos are willing to assist you provided you're not as rude as the Chinese for you will be reprimanded accordingly.
come and visit the Philippines or Vietnam. You won't regret it. You may also visit Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia. China is overrated and not worthy to visit anymore.
China has shown itself perfectly willing to engage in hostage-diplomacy. One never knows when the CCP may need some hostages from a certain country that one happens to be a citizen of.
Why would I want to visit a very unhygienic country that causes nothing but trouble? I am handicapped for life because of their experimental virus. Several of my friends died. As a result of my handicap I also lost my job and my girlfriend. If there are good people left in China, I wish them the strength to overthrow the regime.
Sure it's dirty as hell but it's easily overlooked for the amazing things to see there. And while it escaped out of their lab, the money trail goes back to USA. And maybe it didn't escape but was planned by both sides. They & the western world has a demographic problem and it would be convenient for the old people to just go away.
I've visited China 4 times. The country is amazing and the people are mostly friendly. Since the pandemic you couldn't pay me to go there. It's not because of the pandemic but rather because of the security and pervasive regime that runs the country and has changed it so much from the country it was 15yrs ago when I first visited. Each time I go it gets a little worse.
I had to bribe cops in a few Southeast countries and China wasn't one though I spent the most time there. They can't speak English and you're a nightmare of red tape. Just don't push it.
A mass foreign exodus from Shanghai was hardly surprising after the CCP shutdown the country's major GDP-generating industries and over-regulated those that were left. What were all the foreign employees supposed to do after that? The fact that China is about to enter several 'dark decades' is entirely the doing of the CCP, not as a direct result of the pandemic lockdown (although that didn't help.)
Xi Xinping will not blink if he has to lose a few 100 million peasants trying to invade Taiwain . As long as he gets Unification basis all his subjects will bow down
The loss in foreign travel costs China over $100 billion in foreign currency. And they lost a similar amount due to the loss of foreign residents. Add in an acceleration in capital flight and China could lose over $700 billion a year in foreign currency from those sources alone.
@@indy_go_blue6048 When the foreign money runs out in 2027 or so they won't be able to buy enough food and oil and many Chinese will die in the famine that follows.
Speaking of Japan, Money and Matters (?) argued that China will have a decades-long recession, much like Japan is having. While China has progressed from an agricultural economy to an industrial one, the corrupt CCP is tied to industrial companies, hence all the spending on infrasctructure, to meet GDP targets. Because China has not progressed to a service economy, all the money is spent by building companies, and we excessive building and the current RE bubble. Without a service economy, the economy has less domestic consumption (I remember reading that China was supposed to be independent of needing to export goods b/c it would have domestic consumption), which results in China‘s reliance on exporting good for their economy. But, thanks to CoVid and concerns about a recession, their customer’s demands have lowered, while China has failed to increase domestic consumption and even will not publish unemployment data, and is currently undergoing deflation.
The rhetoric from Beijing is all about war and preparation for it. Why would I visit and support this country now? I visited China in 2007 and enjoyed my time there, but relations have deteriorated.
It's a lot like the boyfriend you are dating is purposefully behaving like an absolute dick and so you leave him. And then he says, "Well, it was *your* choice to leave me. I didn't do anything. You probably left me because you didn't love me enough."
I'm Canadian. I still remember the whole story about the Meng Wenzhou extradition. For those who weren't paying attention, she was a top Hauwei executive living part time in Vancouver who broke Iran sanctions, so the US filed for extradition and we arrested her. The Chinese then arrested two random Canadian businessmen on trumped up charges. They official said that this was unrelated to Meng, while blatantly implying that they were being used as hostages for Meng (with all the usual mafioso type language). Meng got house arrest in her mansion. Michael Kovrig and Machael Spavor were locked up in unsanitary jail cells and denied consular access, FOR THREE YEARS. Eventually, the Americans caved and everybody went home. This story was in the news over and over again for three years. Everyone in the country knows about it. We all learned how China does things, and now every Canadian who thinks about going to China has to wonder "Will I be the next hostage?"
I'm Canadian....and even I don't believe that narrative. The USA has been working for years to discredit Huawei because they are becoming too strong and the US feels threatened...and this is just another example of what the US will resort to.At the end of it all our Canadian judge couldn't find any laws Meng had broken and she was released in a weird face saving way for Americans and Canadians.Before this incident Canada had a good relationship with China...but helping the Americans with their dirty work trumps what's best for Canada. Imagine the furor if China arrested a high ranking Applle executive!! The two Michael's...our innocent angels...I suggest u do more research.
I've visited China twice and loved it, amazing trips. But I'm not going to risk being locked up for months or years in case a single viral outbreak occurs, and I'm also not going to risk being used as a political hostage on trumped up spying charges. Sorry China, this wound is entirely self-inflicted.
Genuinely why did you ever go there even the tourist spots are fake, only built up over the past few decades to lure unsuspecting tourists all the genuine real Chinese stuff got absolutely destroyed during the Cultural Revolution
What could they possibly have expected? They go and act like lunatics internationally. Nobody wants anything to do with them. And its all from their own actions. That espionage laws going to absolutely gut tourism.
In the 90s I was fortunate to enjoy the beauty of China and it’s wonderful people. Today I would not dare go back because of the communist authority and it’s brutal rule.
I also spent a considerable amount of time there before Covid. Don't pretend nasty things weren't happening then either my friend. Then I came home and my own country started to be less free. Thanks Trudeau, please don't freeze my bank account for this comment.
in the recent situation, definitively. I would travel rather all other asian countries except Myanmar rahter than China now. Was not always so. Japan is a good country for tourism, but rather expensive. And if you go outside tourist destinations and big cities it can be difficult without japanese language skills. But overall the Japanese are much more cultivated now, after the Chinese mainly demolished the old moral values. Like german playwright Bertold Brecht said in his play "Mother Courage": "First comes the eating, then comes the morale."
As a Canadian, never. Too many get arrested and kept for strange reasons, and our government is inept in helping. Plus since they stopped tours here, back at you.
I spent six years working in China, but my experience took a turn when the COVID-19 pandemic struck. During my time in Shenzhen, I cherished the warm hospitality at the local bars, where friendly locals would often buy me drinks. However, my last visit was marked by a stark contrast as my wife and I were denied entry to a nightclub. It was then that I realized the atmosphere had shifted dramatically. It's likely that I won't be returning there anytime soon.
It also doesn’t help when you have a government who may kidnap you and use you as a political pawn. There are too many countries that I could visit and not worry about being kidnapped by the government and used as a pawn.
Travellers travelling to any of the 'dictatorship' countries should bear the responsiblityfor anything that happens to them. There have been many examples of how foreign travellers are used as political pawns with a resulting nightmare for them and the time and energy experienced by their home authorities. The chinese government in this video has shot itself in their foot.
I was living in Shanghai for 3 years and after lockdown I had to escape that country. foreigner were treated like criminals and it got scary. My friend got arrested and her job would get harass consistently. Shanghai use to be a very beautiful city now I won’t go back at all
This "spying" crackdown kinda seams like something a country would do in preparation for war. . . Information control is important in the time leading up to a war as well as during a war. Or a Special Navy operation.
Or something a deeply paranoid, out-of-touch-with-reality country would do. When you see someone behave crazily, what do you do? You Get Away if you have any sense.
Unlike the Russian invasion of Ukraine it will be obvious if they tried to invade Taiwan as they would need to prepare an operation bigger inscale then d-day and that takes time and preparation.
I traveled to China many years ago. I highly respect the Chinese people, their culture and their language. However, today the ccp is on very shaky ground. I would not recommend any westerner traveling to China until the ccp is removed. Spend your money in Taiwan.
I am sure it is a beautiful country, if not flooded. But why would I want to travel to a place where Chinese agents keep track of every of my move. WHY?
Permanent membership of the UNSC is a measure of the power of a country and its access to nuclear weapons. Part of the reason why India agitates for permanent membership. Pakistan on the other hand is relatively weak country even if it does have nukes.
@@AvoidTheCadaver in fact, it's the other way. Once a country becomes part of the Security Counil it becomes powerful as it has the power of veto...china and India were both given choice of Security Council membership. Whereas India gave up due to being part of Non Aligned movement
I would never visit China or Russia without specific safe passage garantees. Both countries have the really bad habit of seizing foreigners. Life is too short.
What phony "guarantees" ??? E.g. russia kidnapped Navalny in violation of international traffic law. They just jail you at arrival if they want, let you disappear. There are no valid guarantees in a lawless dictature . This is worse than the Wild West now. In the latter you could at least defend yourself with a decent Colt.
Last time I travelled to Europe from new Zealand I flew via Beijing for cost reasons. It was unpleasant before the pandemic. I would not travel through China or Hong Kong if it was a free first class flight now.
Having lived in Beijing during all of the Zero covid stupidity it was a horrific experience and got out when my contract ended, There is little or no interest to re-visit as the climate there was not positive for expats and its not a particularly welcoming environment and also is becoming very expensive, there are way better places to visit, Tokyo, Seoul are way better options.
I've heard it's insanely difficult now to actually be a tourist as well. You almost need to learn Chinese to be able to get all the apps on your phone just to conduct normal business, because apps are required for almost any interaction with anyone else, usually paying for something, and all the ones the Western world uses are not allowed. You also have no social credit score since you're a foreigner, so people will assume you're a deadbeat. Presumably tour groups exists to make sure you never need to do anything outside the group, but it means you have essentially no freedom while you're there and your visit is totally "on rails" as one would say about a video game.
Yeah, I can attest to that. I have family in China and visit regularly. Back in the 00's travel was really easy, you could just buy a ticket and go. Unfortunately things are very different these days. Now in order to use a long distance bus, train or ferry, firstly you will need to register your ID to get a ticket - many online booking services do not accept foreign passports and require physical registration at the ticket office. I had to queue for over a hour with a crying toddler in order to register to buy a train ticket not too long ago. Upon getting your ticket and entering the station you will have to have your bags scanned airport style. Then you'll have to present ID to enter the station, as a foreigner you won't be able to use the automated gates and will need to have your passport checked manually. You will also have your face scanned. Then when it's time to go to the platform you'll need to present your ID once again, also manually. This process makes for epic queues and stress. Then when you finally get to your hotel at your destination you will, you guessed it, present your ID again, and also have your face scanned again. The constant ID checks are really demoralizing and ruin the travel experience in my opinion. Also, these days most taxis don't carry change or even accept cash at all due to widespread use of WeChat payments. Basically you'll need a Chinese bank account to access this service, which as a foreigner, you won't have.
I have friends in China and have flown in to visit them several times. Now it appears that the only way to enter China is as part of a tourist group, so I would have to engage in activities that the tourist group planned rather than traveling to see my friends.
The best defense against communist authoritarian dictatorship is to strengthen democracies from corrupting influences and nepotism. It takes an active and concerted effort of the people, to ensure that our democratically elected politicians are truly representing our interests. We must also address what hostile communist countries are doing, both domestically and abroad. Democratic Nations must stand together against their lawlessness in defense of global security, human rights, and enforce International Law.
Ever since the WIV lableak; the whole world has started to diversify supply chains, for both National and economic security. This mass divestment is absolutely, *"DECOUPLING"*
Yeah, I would never go to CCP China either. I have connected before through Guangzhou on the way to somewhere else… now I would avoid even that, at all costs. You never know what could happen if you enter the CCP state, and life is far too precious.
i traveled to Thailand after emigrated to the US for 13 yrs in 2018. my family booked a flight with China Eastern, just the way how the passengers act while the plane is 30,000ft above ground and the way how i have to go through passport check and then security check again - this is for transfer both ways. also, because of the way how Chairman Xi's China arresting foreigners, i'll never fly with any Chinese airlines (as mentioned before) nor have a layover there.
Democracies aren't perfect, but at least they allow the public to say something when the government does something stupid. General Secretary Winnie the Pooh seems to be making one bad move after another but no one in China seems to be able to tell him that he has no clothes.
I'm thankful that I had the privilege to travel to China many times over the years, most recently for a wedding in 2016. Sad to say though that due to their government's position now I will not be traveling there again for the foreseeable future.
What do you mean like it used to be. Since the ccp took over it has been a murderous regime. But foreigners were ever ignorant or looked the other way. Ask the 1 million Tibetans who have lost there lives. Ask the mongols, Uyghurs, hong kongers, falun gong. And many others that have lost there lives.the west ignored what was happening to make money or enjoy there holidayss
Watch The China Show for guys who lived in China for over 10 years and saw the way things were going and left in 2018-19 and will never go back because they are on THE LIST for arrest.
Wait, didn't they ban foreign travelers after CV19? We were going to visit, but were told we couldn't. The details escape me now. I know the ban eventually lifted, but the anti-foreigner sentiment in China never seemed to. What do they expect, if they're going to be openly hostile towards people of other countries?
They mean integrating their financial systems with Taiwan and then maybe them a satellite city.... that is what they mean by unifying. I didn't realise that the "opening up" actually has ended up as a PRC Empire... already.
Been to China a couple of times but I have no interest to go back until there has been a complete change in leadership, not only of Xi. Also don't like how payment nowadays is mostly app based but at the same time problematic to foreigners.
The “war” doesn’t help as well, who want to go to China when anytime they gonna launch a war to Taiwan My mum jokes that if you go China now and if they launch an invasion to Taiwan, they might force those who look Chinese to fight for China lol
and they might detain those who don't look like Chinese... , as hostage, to 'persuade' their country of origin to .. not interfere... in their invasion of taiwan. Sorry, anyone travelling to china is potentially a pawn for CCP to capture and blackmail your country with. Be responsible: do not go to CCP china.
China made tremendous progress and gave an impression that the century belongs to them. Now it appears China became arrogant without realizing interdependence and its economy is on decline.
I’m Chinese American. My first trip to China was in 1988 and I had a wonderful experience. I was horrified by the Tiananmen Square demonstrations a year later and had strong reservations about returning. However, it is my ancestral homeland, and so I did return a few times, and had a nice time. However, I sensed that Xi jinping would be a destabilizing, anti-progressive leader. I have no interest in going back now, and at my age, I suspect I will never go there again. Mind you, I’m not exactly feeling great about the US now either, but I feel like we have the ability to self-correct and that we’re in the midst of that process now. I don’t get that sense from China at all. It’s more like Russia than anything, getting more rigid than ever. I want the best for those people, but it’s difficult to see it happening.
CCP cognitive dissonance between the traditional Chinese practice of isolating itself when under pressure, and its economic need to engage with the world.
I had to go to China for a 2 week business trip in May, I was not happy about going. The people were lovely but as a Brit I was apprehensive about potentially being arrested for political purposes, especially if my government said or did something to p1ss off the CCP whilst I was there.
The trend is already irreversible. For each person working in the private sector they need 2 o 3 doing surveillance... They will be forever poor with this approach to economy.
I haven't been back to our ancestral village since 2000, my sister's never been and now I think I will never be able to go again & she'll never get a chance :(
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I'll visit China when it's free from dictatorship 💪
Perhaps in the next life, when we are cats?
@@China_Secret_Police Maybe when the cloning machine stop's making Xi jinping over and over to keep there dicatorship.
there is no real china anymore anyway, just remnants, ccp destroyed most temples, significant landmarks, eradicated alot of traditions, persecuted people who practiced them etc, it's turning into a souless communist hellhole, with hazzardous pollution in air, water and earth. Did you know there are no birds in most china cities? that's right, even in nature, pollution killed of wildlife.
@@China_Secret_Police You'll never know! Who could have predicted the collapse of the Soviet Union?
When pigs fly.
When Xi said "prepare for war". That's exactly what the tourists did.
Wow…well said
YOU MEAN THE US PROPAGANDA WHICH STARTED IT FIRST
@@icet6665 Started what? Who started a war against China? When you're done with that answer this.. WHO started a war against Taiwan? Who started a war against Tibet?
@@rogerdodger8415 THE AMERICAN MILITARY INDUSTRY IS KEEN ON STARTING A NEW WAR TO PROMOTE ITS ARMAMENTS. PLEASE READ A BIT ABOUT CHINA'S CIVIL WAR AND HOW THE KUO MING T ANG LOST THE CIVILWAR ON MAINLAND CHINA AND FLED TO TAIWAN, THE TAIWANESE WERE FORMER SUPPORTES OF THE KMT AND FOR YOU INFORMATION, TIBET WAS PART OF CHINA DURING THE QING DYNASTY. ANY MORE HISTORY LESSONS FOR YOU?
@@icet6665China’s fighter jets have been harassing Taiwan for nearly a decade now.
Of all the places in the world I can go as a tourist, why in the hell would I go to a police state with bad air pollution and restrooms that consist of a hole in the floor?
only if you don't know the truth, and only get your china news from the bots and people who sold their soul to spread chinese propaganda
@mipmipmipmipmip - With soy sauce made from human hair.
Oh, come on, you're being too harsh. The restroom that I went to had TWO holes in the floor. The deluxe toilet.
for anyone reading this and not believing: its real. China show/laowhy did a great segment on this.@mipmipmipmipmip
your info is about 15 years out of date. You can still find those terrifying "restrooms" out in rural areas, but everything in the cities has been modernized. The gutter oil was a real thing, but hasn't really existed for about a decade, and the air pollution is still pretty bad, but not epically so any more since they outlawed burning coal for heat like 7 or 8 years ago (all natural gas now), and all taxis and public transport are electric now...like 99%. The worst air in all of China is Guangzhou, and it's ranked 28th, meaning better air than Jurusalem or Nagoya, in Japan. The only complaint of yours that is still true is the form of govt.
😒 Nobody wants to get exit banned and held as a political prisoner, and up like Otto Warmbier.
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@@franciscocz8384 the two Canadians?
@@franciscocz8384 Everyone knows that. Trust in China has declined to the point that people do not wish to risk something like that happening to them. Even Hong Kong is struggling to regain tourist numbers because China removed the legal firewall between the Mainland and Hong Kong. It might be exaggerated, but not entirely groundless. In the past, I would never have hesitated to go to China. Now? I might still go, but I feel uneasy.
@@franciscocz8384China and North Korea have dictators. Xi the Dictator Jinping is crazy.
@@franciscocz8384 china is just north korea with more money and legitimacy, but every bit as brutal and authoritarian.
Xi is hoping to break Mao's record for worst dictator. He's got my vote!!!
As bad as Xi is, he has a long way to go to break Mao's dismal record.
@jordie4423 I can’t believe how rapidly development is moving in the Philippines. It has almost doubled in size in the last eight years can’t believe the skyline downtown it’s slowly growing into a little Tokyo…
I'd love to visit a place where the people were indoctrinated to hate me, unequivocally suspected me of espionage and routinely detain people for no reason at all. Wouldn't you?
Sounds like a dream vacation. Where do I sign up?
WHICH DRUGS ARE YOU TAKING? A N ARDENT OF SERPENTZA?
Yah but the reality on the ground isn't like that at all. They will point and yell foreigner but that's really the worst of it.
@@wmrme9084 That's what you see. What you don't see is that you are being closely surveilled.
North Korea 2.0 and North Korea 1.0. There is a reason they are connect and cooperate for DECADES.
It's almost like if you hassle overseas tourists and treat them all like spies, they may not want to come and visit. Who would have thought?
Pooh keeps digging the hole deeper.
WHAT DRUGS ARE YOU TAKING?
And pointing the finger more and more. Sinking ship of a country.
Noone could have anticipated this wild outcome.
China spent more on Internal Security than theirs own military. They always scare of the citizens and always shift the blame to foreigners.
Makes just as much sense to visit china as to visit north korea.
Nevermind that one service man who thought it wise to run across the border.
Still wonder what was going through his mind that made him think NK was a good idea...
Looks like china has become north Korea
@@uss-dh7909u can say the same for the 1.4 billion Chinese
Enjoying beer and seafood LOL... *FROM* *GUTTER* *OIL* ahahahaha Cancer confirmed
Hey hey at least NK doesnt use gutter oil, so I hope... I food is awful though...
Considering China's new national security law, its ability to classify anything as spying, and its track record of hostage diplomacy, can you blame foreign tourists for going elsewhere?
DUDE, THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT IS DISCOURAGING AMERICANS FROM GOING TO CHINA. LOL
Exactly. Loved working as an English teacher at a university in Northern China for 5 years. Carefree, relaxed, fun.
But not now.
YES !! I so want to go... but now I do NOT trust the CCP.. extorting innocent people.
That pretty much sums it up. The people who want to visit didn’t change, or not much…they just correctly saw how aggressive and xenophobic China was getting, and smartly said “nope.” The CCP ratcheted up the war-like rhetoric and scape-goating (every problem in China is due to the US, according to the CCP), and no surprise foreigners left.
Most no one wants to visit or move to N. Korea, and China is becoming more like N. Korea every day. And with the vague Chinese espionage act….having a camera would qualify you as a spy they can use as a pawn.
God forbid you made fun of China in the past and they detain you for "espionage". If I know anything about China, it's that they are petty as fuck when it comes to things they find offensive or disrespectful towards China
After the world has seen how CCP treats it's own people, I'm surprised it's not 100% decline... nothing will change until the people stand up for themselves
Indeed!
@@David_Lo_Pan
*o7*
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Bro i feel you. It's how I feel about all of those african countries being terrorized by the Wagner Group on behalf of China's debt trap diplomacy.
Why are they making deals with the devil?
If nothimg changes, China will be 100 years ahead of the West in 10 years. Period.
Amen.
I guess this is what happens when you despise foreigners, accuse them of spying non-stop (purest projection), and your police harass them constantly, telling them to leave. I guess this is what happens when your country falls victim to non-stop corruption, and the tofu dreg projects become all the projects.
I am now consciously boycotting Chinese products wherever possible, and I will pay more for a product from Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, India or other friendly country.
I feel a little sorry for the Chinese people, whose suffering is about to become truly epic. I do not think they can revolt against the CCP, as the CCP has no problem murdering hundreds of thousands, or indeed, tens of millions of people to remain in power.
DUDE, STOP CONSUMING TOO MANY SERPENTZA VIDEOS AND FALUN GONG CULT CHANNELS LIKE THIS ONE. BETTER IF YOU LOOK FOR FOREIGN VLOGGERS WHO HAVE VISISTED CHINA.
I boycott Chinese products now BECAUSE I lived there and saw how they treat their people. And I went to China open-minded. Usually, living in a country makes people more friendly toward the place. With China, it has done the opposite.
@@icet6665I've seen enough PRC official statements to avoid China like the plague.
@@icet6665Found the CCP simp.
@@icet6665okay Winnie the Pooh. One RMB for you.
A lot of Shanghai expats, including myself, went through horrible experiences during the 2022 lockdowns. We all made sure to tell everyone in our home countries.
I have told EVERYONE about what we went through. Will never step foot in China again after that Shanghai lockdown. They did it to themselves.
Do tell here.
@@kikibeldandy +1
Expat living in Taiwan here . . . those bastards fired missiles over my house. Tell everyone that.
@@albanloriotThe only reason why you weren’t forced to get the injection was because the CCP couldn’t broker an acceptable deal with Pfizer or Moderna. Sinovax was a horrible failure of a vaccine and the CCP knew it. They badly wanted to vaccinate their populace with the mRNA vaccine types but were shut down by Pfizer and Moderna. If a deal had been reached, believe me, the CCP would have also required the jab.
A lot of people left China, including me, in 2021 after 6 years over there. It's becoming dangerous.
why did you stay that long? The food isn't safe to eat, the air isn't even safe to breathe ...
It was always dangerous. It's communist, ultra-nationalistic, and xenophobic. Admittedly, that's true for most asian nations.
@@RandomGuy-lu1enprobably a sexpat who dont car about anything other then the woman there
More danger than USA ?
Damn
@@skid9985 always been
Hello...CCP has vilified all non-Chinese foreigners...what do you think would happen?
you have to be mentally ill to go there, they can arrest you for infinite number of things, even if it's not your fault and you'll be extorted at best or jailed for god knows how long and your embassy won't be able to do anything.
LINLKS PLEASE
Xi has zero understanding about how to do business.
Everything Deng Xiaoping achieved, Xi is ruining.
@i: Go buy a keyboard without a stuck caps lock.
It does not take a genius to realize that a nation that chose to become hostile against most of the world would become an undesirable destination for tourists, no matter how wonderful the sights might be.
As a tourist you simply avoid places where you don't feel safe.
There are plenty of other places to visit.
China, go for the sightseeing stay for the horrifying prisons.
So great you’ll never leave!
how do you know if you're not a spy?
Why not visit China, and ask them.
If they for whatever reason, like you, you may win a jackpot: a lifetime stay in one of their 'hotels'.
They so love you they won't let you go.
No prison, get killed ….yes
You’d be completely nuts to invest in China at this time.. this isn’t going to end well
Not like there isn't a trade war going on or anything.
Well, one of my friends is a lead engineer and in a management position in a multiple billion dollar sales volume company. He's been to china this year! They have and will keep investing there. I warned him. But what do I know, right? Also he has been scammed for a couple thousand dollars there, by one of the oldest tricks in the book. But I'm not the highly educated person as he is. So yeah, I'm waiting till it hits them, then I'll get a call. "How did you know? "
I think as a small business you can still bring some products to China and sell them, short term investments. but as you mention, long term investment in infraestructure is pretty hard.
you can also find some good manufacturers to export from China, but you do need someone here to supervise ad be in constant touch with them.
I lived in China from 2017-2022 and visited there 6 times before that starting from 2003. It's not the same place as when I first went in terms of how they view foreigners. I'd LOVE to go back but after making a few relatively innocuous posts online (this one added) I'm concerned about what could happen. I used to tell people, China's fine, people can post polite criticism as long as they don't organize. Not anymore, everything could have a repercussion. I think a WuMao reading this and saying "we don't want you back anyways", would just validate my point. I know it would just be a CCP WuMao and not the average kind-hearted China but they are in control now and spreading the hate and propaganda.
I lived in China for ten years and visited the country twice before that. On my first visit in 2003 China was an exciting, curious and vibrant country with relatively minimal censorship. When I left China in 2018 it had completely changed. You could feel the opression and see the anxiety on peoples faces. All the curiosity and vibrancy was fast disappearing.
I have vowed never to visit China again unless it becomes a democracy or very least rid it's self of the Communist Party.
The hate propaganda, for me, is truly heartbreaking. Recently a 5 year old relative of mine in China was asked by an auntie if she would like to visit me in my home country (in 'the West') she replied "no, I hate that country, I only love the motherland". If this is what 5 year old children are being taught now then how hostile will China become in the future? It's scary.
Like you say, even polite criticism is now not tolerated. I noticed that recently people are scared of even mentioning certain subjects in public places for fear of eavesdroppers. It was never quite this bad prior to Covid. China, I feel, is going the way of North Korea...
Lol, stoned or just paranoid?
@@RoyalMICHAEL Hehe, nah, I'm quite outspoken myself, was 'shushed' a few times by friends when mentioning the name of a certain honey loving bear in public. Think the paranoid ones are the people drafting laws and making advertising campaigns encouraging the whole population to spy on each other. Beware the 'black hand' of 'nefarious foreign forces' woooo. That kind of thing tends to put a damper on political discussions. As for 'stoned', don't think many people consume marijuana in China, which is a shame as it could prove useful in dislodging the proverbial sticks from people's backsides and making them a bit more laid back...
"I used to tell people, China's fine, people can post polite criticism as long as they don't organize."
Why are first world, middle-class citizens so incentivized to justify and promote terrible regimes? The amounts of time I had to listen to an american, canadian or europeans blatangly promoting terrible regimes from the comfort of a capitalist free market democracy is insane.
I lived in China for ten years and visited the country twice before that. On my first visit in 2003 China was an exciting, curious and vibrant country with relatively minimal censorship. When I left China in 2018 it had completely changed. You could feel the opression and see the anxiety on peoples faces. All the curiosity and vibrancy was fast disappearing.
I have vowed never to visit China again unless it becomes a democracy or very least rid it's self of the Communist Party.
@jordie4423hasnt changed. Its just now you cant ignore it. People are so naive when they choose to
I went to Shanghai and Guangzhou as a private tourist. Arriving to Shanghai was not to bad. I went to Russia about 10 years before and it was very difficult in enter as a tourist. I spent hours waiting and answering the same questions in Russia but entry into China was not a problem. I took a cab to the well-known hotel which, again, was easy. The cab driver spoke some English and was very welcoming. After that, everything changed. I felt that I was singled out as a mark by every vendor. I was given less food than Chinese people and charged much more. I tried to buy some souvenirs but I knew I was being ripped off by most people. I ended up eating at Japanese restaurants because at least there I didn’t think I was being taken advantage of. Every cab driver, except for the first man, didn’t have change, spoke zero English, and would put on the meter. When I arrived at Guangzhou, there were at least 50 cabs and there was an English sign saying to make sure they use the meter. No one would. I went to the police station next to the cabs and they completely ignored me. I ended up with two other parties in my cab and I had to paid for the who,e ride. When I left, the hotel made the taxi turn on the meter but the man charged me double what the meter said. I will never return to China as long as I live.
Too horrible and sorry for you. Why not visit the Philippines and have every minute a leisure and pleasure of your own choice where Filipinos are willing to assist you provided you're not as rude as the Chinese for you will be reprimanded accordingly.
come and visit the Philippines or Vietnam. You won't regret it. You may also visit Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia. China is overrated and not worthy to visit anymore.
They do the same in our countries now. They lie, cheat, scam and cannot be trusted.
Xi is campaigning against all foreigners never enter china again.
yup. it is why we in south africa charge chinese passport holders double for everything. if passport says Taiwan, lunch is free on us.
China has shown itself perfectly willing to engage in hostage-diplomacy. One never knows when the CCP may need some hostages from a certain country that one happens to be a citizen of.
Why would I want to visit a very unhygienic country that causes nothing but trouble?
I am handicapped for life because of their experimental virus. Several of my friends died.
As a result of my handicap I also lost my job and my girlfriend.
If there are good people left in China, I wish them the strength to overthrow the regime.
DUDE, THE AMERICANS AND FRENCH FUNDED THE CHINESE FOR BIO EXPERIMENTS. ASK DR FAUCI
How did you become handicap? First person in history to become handicap to common cold
Sure it's dirty as hell but it's easily overlooked for the amazing things to see there.
And while it escaped out of their lab, the money trail goes back to USA. And maybe it didn't escape but was planned by both sides. They & the western world has a demographic problem and it would be convenient for the old people to just go away.
@john: CoVid is NOT the common cold. Go rewrite your narrative elsewhere.
I've visited China 4 times. The country is amazing and the people are mostly friendly. Since the pandemic you couldn't pay me to go there. It's not because of the pandemic but rather because of the security and pervasive regime that runs the country and has changed it so much from the country it was 15yrs ago when I first visited. Each time I go it gets a little worse.
i guess the tourist got tired of paying police off so they dont get arrested.
Yes and paying for visa renewals
I had to bribe cops in a few Southeast countries and China wasn't one though I spent the most time there.
They can't speak English and you're a nightmare of red tape. Just don't push it.
A mass foreign exodus from Shanghai was hardly surprising after the CCP shutdown the country's major GDP-generating industries and over-regulated those that were left. What were all the foreign employees supposed to do after that? The fact that China is about to enter several 'dark decades' is entirely the doing of the CCP, not as a direct result of the pandemic lockdown (although that didn't help.)
Xi Xinping will not blink if he has to lose a few 100 million peasants trying to invade Taiwain . As long as he gets Unification basis all his subjects will bow down
The Emperor commands foreigners to kneel to and acknowledge his power. We've simply walked away..
YOU ARE A JOKER LOL
Nailed it 👊🤣
Even communist killed the last emperor 🥲
@@Iam-me LOL GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT
The loss in foreign travel costs China over $100 billion in foreign currency. And they lost a similar amount due to the loss of foreign residents. Add in an acceleration in capital flight and China could lose over $700 billion a year in foreign currency from those sources alone.
They do not care.
Good. They're supposed to be anti-capitalist anyway.
@@indy_go_blue6048 When the foreign money runs out in 2027 or so they won't be able to buy enough food and oil and many Chinese will die in the famine that follows.
Speaking of Japan, Money and Matters (?) argued that China will have a decades-long recession, much like Japan is having. While China has progressed from an agricultural economy to an industrial one, the corrupt CCP is tied to industrial companies, hence all the spending on infrasctructure, to meet GDP targets. Because China has not progressed to a service economy, all the money is spent by building companies, and we excessive building and the current RE bubble. Without a service economy, the economy has less domestic consumption (I remember reading that China was supposed to be independent of needing to export goods b/c it would have domestic consumption), which results in China‘s reliance on exporting good for their economy. But, thanks to CoVid and concerns about a recession, their customer’s demands have lowered, while China has failed to increase domestic consumption and even will not publish unemployment data, and is currently undergoing deflation.
Why travel somewhere that despises you? I wouldn't.
The rhetoric from Beijing is all about war and preparation for it. Why would I visit and support this country now? I visited China in 2007 and enjoyed my time there, but relations have deteriorated.
Now that we are pulling our industries back from China, I am looking forward to dropping our imports and investments by 99% too.
Meanwhile, India has seen a *130% increase* in tourism in 2023. I'm not Indian, but it's nice to see a democracy beating China, again.
MANY TOURISTS TO INDIA WILL FIND IT HARD TO VISIT.
@@icet6665Stop shouting.
Is India in real life dirty or not?
I would love to ride a Royal Enfield across India 🇦🇺🇮🇳
LOLOLOL. Nice one buddy. Im sure all the Chinese people wish they were Indian and had Modi as their President. Hahahahaha
I left China some weeks ago and we were harassed by security and customs. We almost had missed our plane! Better not go there anymore!
The Kingdom of Darkness!
"Foreigners leaving is 100% not our fault" - CCP
It's a lot like the boyfriend you are dating is purposefully behaving like an absolute dick and so you leave him. And then he says, "Well, it was *your* choice to leave me. I didn't do anything. You probably left me because you didn't love me enough."
Having Chinese not wanting to go back to China speaks Volumes.
No, we only said it was 99% your fault.
Xi Jinping’s Chinese Dream is not shattered. Politics comes ahead of economics. Xi has consolidated power and control. That was always his objective.
He has a lot of enemies has to live in some level of fear consistently.
The more power Xi consolidates, the worse the Chinese economy does. It's not because Xi is unlucky.
Xi is a dictator. It's that simple. China is his dictatorship.
I'm Canadian. I still remember the whole story about the Meng Wenzhou extradition. For those who weren't paying attention, she was a top Hauwei executive living part time in Vancouver who broke Iran sanctions, so the US filed for extradition and we arrested her. The Chinese then arrested two random Canadian businessmen on trumped up charges. They official said that this was unrelated to Meng, while blatantly implying that they were being used as hostages for Meng (with all the usual mafioso type language). Meng got house arrest in her mansion. Michael Kovrig and Machael Spavor were locked up in unsanitary jail cells and denied consular access, FOR THREE YEARS. Eventually, the Americans caved and everybody went home.
This story was in the news over and over again for three years. Everyone in the country knows about it. We all learned how China does things, and now every Canadian who thinks about going to China has to wonder "Will I be the next hostage?"
your government sure loves going down on that China shaft :)
Lmfao
I'm Canadian....and even I don't believe that narrative. The USA has been working for years to discredit Huawei because they are becoming too strong and the US feels threatened...and this is just another example of what the US will resort to.At the end of it all our Canadian judge couldn't find any laws Meng had broken and she was released in a weird face saving way for Americans and Canadians.Before this incident Canada had a good relationship with China...but helping the Americans with their dirty work trumps what's best for Canada. Imagine the furor if China arrested a high ranking Applle executive!! The two Michael's...our innocent angels...I suggest u do more research.
I've visited China twice and loved it, amazing trips. But I'm not going to risk being locked up for months or years in case a single viral outbreak occurs, and I'm also not going to risk being used as a political hostage on trumped up spying charges. Sorry China, this wound is entirely self-inflicted.
Genuinely why did you ever go there even the tourist spots are fake, only built up over the past few decades to lure unsuspecting tourists all the genuine real Chinese stuff got absolutely destroyed during the Cultural Revolution
For Xi Jinping it was a dream , for the people of China it was , and is a nightmare .
What could they possibly have expected? They go and act like lunatics internationally. Nobody wants anything to do with them. And its all from their own actions. That espionage laws going to absolutely gut tourism.
If i go to asia i would gp to japan
Lovely country. Lovely people.
pedos go there.
nah, South-Korea...
Hey, give The Philippine paradise islands a chance even a week.
Try Taiwan, the people there, are awesome.
It’s a high trust society, with cultural depth.
This video will have more views than China has visitors. There's no reason to visit a country past it's prime.
In the 90s I was fortunate to enjoy the beauty of China and it’s wonderful people. Today I would not dare go back because of the communist authority and it’s brutal rule.
HAHA OMG, CHINA IS NOW THE MOST ADVANCED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD IN TERMS OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND HIGH TECH. LOL
I also spent a considerable amount of time there before Covid. Don't pretend nasty things weren't happening then either my friend.
Then I came home and my own country started to be less free. Thanks Trudeau, please don't freeze my bank account for this comment.
@@wmrme9084 Perhaps Trudeau's learnt from his CCP buddies.
@ziplokk1453 Are you afraid of arbitrary arrest and imprisonment in NYC?
China is Trustworthy, Enduring, and Respectable... WHAT A LAUGH!!
I would never go. esp when Japan is a 10000x better destination
in the recent situation, definitively. I would travel rather all other asian countries except Myanmar rahter than China now. Was not always so. Japan is a good country for tourism, but rather expensive. And if you go outside tourist destinations and big cities it can be difficult without japanese language skills. But overall the Japanese are much more cultivated now, after the Chinese mainly demolished the old moral values. Like german playwright Bertold Brecht said in his play "Mother Courage": "First comes the eating, then comes the morale."
Even if they pay me,I won’t go there😂😂😂😂😂 Never interested me at all as the world has plenty of beautiful and peaceful places to visit.
As a Canadian, never. Too many get arrested and kept for strange reasons, and our government is inept in helping. Plus since they stopped tours here, back at you.
I spent six years working in China, but my experience took a turn when the COVID-19 pandemic struck. During my time in Shenzhen, I cherished the warm hospitality at the local bars, where friendly locals would often buy me drinks. However, my last visit was marked by a stark contrast as my wife and I were denied entry to a nightclub. It was then that I realized the atmosphere had shifted dramatically. It's likely that I won't be returning there anytime soon.
Good riddance. Dont let the door hit you on the way out
@@Surstromming22 He already left, you fool. The door is falling off the house! lol. The emperor has no clothes.
@@Surstromming22 Xi, is that you?
It also doesn’t help when you have a government who may kidnap you and use you as a political pawn. There are too many countries that I could visit and not worry about being kidnapped by the government and used as a pawn.
when your only tool to fix things is a hammer
hammer and sickle
@@mason5540Idk, the farmers would probably love to have a sickle to Xi's throat about now.
Travellers travelling to any of the 'dictatorship' countries should bear the responsiblityfor anything that happens to them. There have been many examples of how foreign travellers are used as political pawns with a resulting nightmare for them and the time and energy experienced by their home authorities. The chinese government in this video has shot itself in their foot.
I was living in Shanghai for 3 years and after lockdown I had to escape that country. foreigner were treated like criminals and it got scary. My friend got arrested and her job would get harass consistently. Shanghai use to be a very beautiful city now I won’t go back at all
It is shocking to see how the entire Chinese economy is heading for disaster and it is totally self made.
This "spying" crackdown kinda seams like something a country would do in preparation for war. . . Information control is important in the time leading up to a war as well as during a war. Or a Special Navy operation.
Or something a deeply paranoid, out-of-touch-with-reality country would do. When you see someone behave crazily, what do you do? You Get Away if you have any sense.
Unlike the Russian invasion of Ukraine it will be obvious if they tried to invade Taiwan as they would need to prepare an operation bigger inscale then d-day and that takes time and preparation.
I traveled to China many years ago. I highly respect the Chinese people, their culture and their language. However, today the ccp is on very shaky ground. I would not recommend any westerner traveling to China until the ccp is removed. Spend your money in Taiwan.
I am sure it is a beautiful country, if not flooded. But why would I want to travel to a place where Chinese agents keep track of every of my move. WHY?
they should start building an arc....
I can’t imagine too many people from the west, that haven’t talked trash about the CCP. I wouldn’t go there! That’s for sure🤣🤣✌️✌️
China needs to free tibet first and then liberate the ugyur muslim region. Only then it has right to even be on UN security council.
Permanent membership of the UNSC is a measure of the power of a country and its access to nuclear weapons. Part of the reason why India agitates for permanent membership. Pakistan on the other hand is relatively weak country even if it does have nukes.
@@AvoidTheCadaver in fact, it's the other way. Once a country becomes part of the Security Counil it becomes powerful as it has the power of veto...china and India were both given choice of Security Council membership. Whereas India gave up due to being part of Non Aligned movement
China going down hard, dystopia intensifies!
I left Shanghai in 2020 after living there for over a decade. All the foreigners I knew left China too except for one 🇨🇳
I would never visit China or Russia without specific safe passage garantees. Both countries have the really bad habit of seizing foreigners. Life is too short.
What phony "guarantees" ??? E.g. russia kidnapped Navalny in violation of international traffic law. They just jail you at arrival if they want, let you disappear. There are no valid guarantees in a lawless dictature . This is worse than the Wild West now. In the latter you could at least defend yourself with a decent Colt.
Last time I travelled to Europe from new Zealand I flew via Beijing for cost reasons. It was unpleasant before the pandemic. I would not travel through China or Hong Kong if it was a free first class flight now.
Having lived in Beijing during all of the Zero covid stupidity it was a horrific experience and got out when my contract ended, There is little or no interest to re-visit as the climate there was not positive for expats and its not a particularly welcoming environment and also is becoming very expensive, there are way better places to visit, Tokyo, Seoul are way better options.
I've heard it's insanely difficult now to actually be a tourist as well. You almost need to learn Chinese to be able to get all the apps on your phone just to conduct normal business, because apps are required for almost any interaction with anyone else, usually paying for something, and all the ones the Western world uses are not allowed. You also have no social credit score since you're a foreigner, so people will assume you're a deadbeat. Presumably tour groups exists to make sure you never need to do anything outside the group, but it means you have essentially no freedom while you're there and your visit is totally "on rails" as one would say about a video game.
When I left China in 2018 it was getting difficult to use cash and I refused to use WeChat to make payments .
Yeah, I can attest to that. I have family in China and visit regularly. Back in the 00's travel was really easy, you could just buy a ticket and go. Unfortunately things are very different these days. Now in order to use a long distance bus, train or ferry, firstly you will need to register your ID to get a ticket - many online booking services do not accept foreign passports and require physical registration at the ticket office. I had to queue for over a hour with a crying toddler in order to register to buy a train ticket not too long ago. Upon getting your ticket and entering the station you will have to have your bags scanned airport style. Then you'll have to present ID to enter the station, as a foreigner you won't be able to use the automated gates and will need to have your passport checked manually. You will also have your face scanned. Then when it's time to go to the platform you'll need to present your ID once again, also manually. This process makes for epic queues and stress. Then when you finally get to your hotel at your destination you will, you guessed it, present your ID again, and also have your face scanned again. The constant ID checks are really demoralizing and ruin the travel experience in my opinion. Also, these days most taxis don't carry change or even accept cash at all due to widespread use of WeChat payments. Basically you'll need a Chinese bank account to access this service, which as a foreigner, you won't have.
In the best of times I never desired to put even one toe into the land of the 1989 student massacre.
I have friends in China and have flown in to visit them several times. Now it appears that the only way to enter China is as part of a tourist group, so I would have to engage in activities that the tourist group planned rather than traveling to see my friends.
The best defense against communist authoritarian dictatorship is to strengthen democracies from corrupting influences and nepotism. It takes an active and concerted effort of the people, to ensure that our democratically elected politicians are truly representing our interests.
We must also address what hostile communist countries are doing, both domestically and abroad. Democratic Nations must stand together against their lawlessness in defense of global security, human rights, and enforce International Law.
Ever since the WIV lableak; the whole world has started to diversify supply chains, for both National and economic security.
This mass divestment is absolutely, *"DECOUPLING"*
@@Tacit_Tern
Speaking of the pandi.....
Don't forget about Dr. Peter Daszak and Dr. Shi Zheng-Li
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"...from corrupting influences and nepotism." It hasn't worked since many years ago.
Treating them like the USSR is an absolute must. We are enemies.
I went to China once: I want my money back.
No desire to end up a pawn in a political kidnapping.
Applying for a tourist visa is too much of a hassle....long queues at the Chinese embassy. I am avoiding China when I can travel to Japan visa free.
Hostage diplomacy probably doesn't help.
Yeah, I would never go to CCP China either. I have connected before through Guangzhou on the way to somewhere else… now I would avoid even that, at all costs. You never know what could happen if you enter the CCP state, and life is far too precious.
i traveled to Thailand after emigrated to the US for 13 yrs in 2018. my family booked a flight with China Eastern, just the way how the passengers act while the plane is 30,000ft above ground and the way how i have to go through passport check and then security check again - this is for transfer both ways. also, because of the way how Chairman Xi's China arresting foreigners, i'll never fly with any Chinese airlines (as mentioned before) nor have a layover there.
The Great wall was on my bucket list. Not after what they did to their own citizens during COVID, let alone what they would do to a foreigner.
Democracies aren't perfect, but at least they allow the public to say something when the government does something stupid. General Secretary Winnie the Pooh seems to be making one bad move after another but no one in China seems to be able to tell him that he has no clothes.
they are perfectly able, but they end up in jail or worse...
I'm thankful that I had the privilege to travel to China many times over the years, most recently for a wedding in 2016. Sad to say though that due to their government's position now I will not be traveling there again for the foreseeable future.
I seen China change as soon as Mad Mao the 2nd came to power. Will not go back.
"trustworthy, endearing, and respectable" ... only problem is that CCP behavior demonstrates the opposite at every turn 🤣
I can't agree more with you. I feel strongly unsafe to go to China now, it's not like it used to be.
What do you mean like it used to be. Since the ccp took over it has been a murderous regime. But foreigners were ever ignorant or looked the other way. Ask the 1 million Tibetans who have lost there lives. Ask the mongols, Uyghurs, hong kongers, falun gong. And many others that have lost there lives.the west ignored what was happening to make money or enjoy there holidayss
We've seen the gutter oil videos - amongst other things - and decided that it is safer to stay away!
the covid 19 pandemic showed the TRUE color and attitude of the CCP towards non chinese people, it is just Karma for them this time.
Xi Jinping is a mass murderer for purposely sending the CCP virus across the World. He must be charged and punished..
LMFAO , China's law against spying is hilarious
impoverished people are easier to control
Watch The China Show for guys who lived in China for over 10 years and saw the way things were going and left in 2018-19 and will never go back because they are on THE LIST for arrest.
Wait, didn't they ban foreign travelers after CV19? We were going to visit, but were told we couldn't. The details escape me now. I know the ban eventually lifted, but the anti-foreigner sentiment in China never seemed to. What do they expect, if they're going to be openly hostile towards people of other countries?
Mainland claims that they want to "reunify" Taiwan. I'm all for that providing Taiwan becomes the governing power.
I would love to visit West Taiwan as a tourist
@@es68951The Taiwan Sea sounds better than South China Sea..
They mean integrating their financial systems with Taiwan and then maybe them a satellite city.... that is what they mean by unifying. I didn't realise that the "opening up" actually has ended up as a PRC Empire... already.
I felt the shift in 2016 I didn't renew my contract and moved home.
Been to China a couple of times but I have no interest to go back until there has been a complete change in leadership, not only of Xi. Also don't like how payment nowadays is mostly app based but at the same time problematic to foreigners.
Xi is not leader he's a Dictator
CCP: We must create a good image for us!
Rest of the world: we don't care about image, we care about reality
CCP: Surprised Pooh face O.O
The “war” doesn’t help as well, who want to go to China when anytime they gonna launch a war to Taiwan
My mum jokes that if you go China now and if they launch an invasion to Taiwan, they might force those who look Chinese to fight for China lol
and they might detain those who don't look like Chinese... , as hostage, to 'persuade' their country of origin to .. not interfere... in their invasion of taiwan.
Sorry, anyone travelling to china is potentially a pawn for CCP to capture and blackmail your country with.
Be responsible: do not go to CCP china.
China made tremendous progress and gave an impression that the century belongs to them. Now it appears China became arrogant without realizing interdependence and its economy is on decline.
Why will someone ever want to go there like visiting north Korean?
Excellent coverage
I’m Chinese American. My first trip to China was in 1988 and I had a wonderful experience. I was horrified by the Tiananmen Square demonstrations a year later and had strong reservations about returning. However, it is my ancestral homeland, and so I did return a few times, and had a nice time. However, I sensed that Xi jinping would be a destabilizing, anti-progressive leader. I have no interest in going back now, and at my age, I suspect I will never go there again. Mind you, I’m not exactly feeling great about the US now either, but I feel like we have the ability to self-correct and that we’re in the midst of that process now. I don’t get that sense from China at all. It’s more like Russia than anything, getting more rigid than ever. I want the best for those people, but it’s difficult to see it happening.
CCP cognitive dissonance between the traditional Chinese practice of isolating itself when under pressure, and its economic need to engage with the world.
I visited Shanghai in 2000 and was uneasy back then. I wouldn't step foot in China today.
Why would I go to darkness unless it's the only option.
The wall is not worth the risk of disaperaing of the GRID.
I had to go to China for a 2 week business trip in May, I was not happy about going. The people were lovely but as a Brit I was apprehensive about potentially being arrested for political purposes, especially if my government said or did something to p1ss off the CCP whilst I was there.
The trend is already irreversible.
For each person working in the private sector they need 2 o 3 doing surveillance...
They will be forever poor with this approach to economy.
I haven't been back to our ancestral village since 2000, my sister's never been and now I think I will never be able to go again & she'll never get a chance :(
Same here.
I miss my ancestral village.
I am sorry Terrence.
Maybe Russia, N. Korea, and Iran will let their citizens visit.
The government is going out of the way to tell the world that they don't need our business
China has such strict data laws and yet my lamp has a goddamn GPS and microphone thats no doubt trying to send my life story to some CCP bot.