Everyone hating on it vs the previous version like it was a perfect design. I get people saying it feels micro brandish because of how drastic the redesign is but I personally think it's gorgeous. This will be a great second hand piece.
The now previous Superocean was one of the coolest watches out there. All it needed was perhaps an adjustable bracelet and a movement upgrade, maybe 50 hours of power or so for example. When you've got a great thing, careful evolution is the proper choice.
Just bought a blue 42mm on rubber while on vacation in the Caribbean for about $4K. Videos don’t do the watch justice. I’ve gotten several complements. Very well executed imo. 48mm lug to lug, and 12.5mm thin - yes, had to get it. The bezel, crown, and winding action all feels improved.
I like the old model better. The dial design was more fun, cohesive and much more legible. Also, why did they go with polished center links? Divers look much better with fully brushed bracelets imo. Only improvements I see are the bracelet adjustment and the larger crown.
I felt the previous Superoceans were of a more "nautical" feel, i.e. for boating, particularly the Heritage, and more unique in that respect compared to every brand that has a standard diver. This new one for me has a weird mis-match of components, e.g. the hands are terrible, the huge white chapter ring.
The Breitling caliber B17 in this watch is found in many automatic Breitling watches. The B17 is basically an ETA caliber 2824-2 with a Breitling branded rotor. This caliber is said to be assembled and regulated by Breitling and is a Chronometer grade.
I'd a rather had a refresh of the older model - I'd been tempted several times to buy it. I can't see myself being tempted to buy this new model. Breitling has been doing great things over the past couple of years. I'd really loved the direction they were heading ... normal sizes with watch designs that didn't look like they were juicing steroids - and great colors. This new model just has me scratching my head. The weird bezel/outer design layout, the strange range of sizes - nothing in the 41-38mm range, the bump in price with no increase in power reserve....
I have the previous model and agree, I can only think that the outgoing model was a poor seller. This seems like step back to the bling days but perhaps the older model was just lost in the AD window as it was too plain ?? I think the price bump is hard pill to swallow for the enthusiast but for a lay person the Movt probably wont be an issue and Brietling knows this. It just has to look expensive.
Funny that even on the Breitling site they use the old version's picture under the "Collections" that is an unpolite overlook... but tells a lot :) :) :) :)
@@Johnny641 I own the previous model in blue, I was told by Breitling they released that model at an odd time, which impacted it’s presence in the market, but in my opinion it’s certainly a much better watch than the new model, it’s certainty marmite, and I don’t like it.
The new one is absolutely fantastic looking. Love that dial and white chapter. This is on my list. Great job Breitling!! They've got a bunch of great dial colors, sizes and this black dial would look great on a NATO. 😀😀😀
This is the the first iteration of the BSO I have ever considered picking up. Everything is an improvement over the previous version for me. Except maybe the minute hand haha Movement is fine. COSC at least
I'm glad you showed us the how the high polish hands disappear in the write (wrong?) light. I can see why they went with the square minutes hand now. I hope they add more colorways too. The black model is nearly there; just add some texture to the chapter ring and it would be the icing on the cake.
The biggest disservice they did to this watch was not giving it the b20 and making it cost 5,500. That would’ve put it in direct completion with the SMP but instead it’s hovering in no man’s land. To expensive for most but missing a great movement to jump it into the next tier of dress divers. Granted it didn’t stop me from buying one I just know I would’ve paid more money for it to have the b20 and maybe an exhibition case back
I like quirky watches that dare to be different (Seiko Ripley, Tudor P01, Unimatic, Squale, original Cristopher Ward branding, etc.), and this one catches my fancy. Even though I cannot afford watches in this price range, the fact that Breitling is still independent is worth a lot in my esteem, compared to the pretentiousness of corporate luxury watches (e.g. Omega, although I would love to own a Railmaster). Everyone wants a modern upmarket Omega until they have to pay for a service. The almost-generic movement on this Breitling is as tough as they come and much cheaper to keep in top nick, as experienced with my Tudor Heritage Ranger. Two thumbs up from me! Thanks for another great video, Rob.
Hmmmm, I just cannot stomach paying thousands and thousands for an Eta/Selita, and it still only has a 38hr power reserve. I paid less than they want for this for a Tudor North Flag* with a movement that has a 70hr power reserve, is COSC certified and has better features e.g., full balance bridge. It's also supposed to be able to go ten years between services. When you look at these Etas they look like something from the 1950s. *Another quirky watch!
@@willemdeleeuw8094 Good points, Willem ... especially as it applies to the North Flag 😊 (another one of my favourite watches that I should have bought when I still could.) Love those Tudors!
The previous blue and white 42 model that you and OFD have may be the best looking watch out there. I'm not a fan of the new one other than the reduced thickness. I'd rather have 20mm and all brushed bracelet. Plus I like asymmetrical watch dials, so I dig the 12, 6, 9 and date window on the old one.
I like the look but Breitling should stop using off the shelf movements with Breitling calibre numbers. If they'd put the movement that Tudor shared with them in exchange for Breitling's chrono movement I'd expect it to do better. This one isn't going to stop the demand for big discounts on Breitlings which was Mr Kern's main mission on his appointment.
Did you notice the bezel having a little play in them mine does and went to my AD to confirm no issues their on hand watchmaker said its common with these and i even checked display models those aswell have play in the bezel
I really like the design on this new one, but I think it needs a better movement with a longer power reserve at this price. Anyway it's a very nice watch for me.
Agree. I just received a Christopher Ward C63 Sealander GMT. The Sellita movement has a 56 hour power reserve and adds a GMT complication. The price is 1200USD which makes this watch seem way too expensive.
I have the last gen A17366 black dial. Didn’t like this one at first but it’s really grown on me. Breitling will go In house next few years on all their watches and people will say they miss the ETA2824-2. My pick would be the 44 Dark Navy Dial Black with Black Bezel on Rubber. Only complaint I have is 38HR PR which for a 5K watch in 2023 it’s crazy low! Overall it’s a great daily wear it and forget it watch. 👍
That's a hard no from me Dawg. Breitling seems to be turning into a luxury fashion brand. $5K for a Selita with a 38 hour power reserve? Get out of here. They are just not competing with Grand Seiko, Tudor, Omega at all.
Tried it on in the store, and it fits great and looks good, but it doesnt look nearly as good as the previous version. They removed the colt and now im worried the will destroy the avenger im some way as well.
Okaayy Breitling. You have my attention. Wow. What a strong resurgence to the modern watch landscape. What a design. What a dial. What a case shape and wearability.
I have a lot of trouble justifying the price for this over the Formex Reef. Specs are extremely close, and Formex is owned by the same people who manufacture a lot of the parts for Breitling, so the clasp is even extremely similar. In spite of the close specs, the Formex is less than half of what this costs, and honestly seems to be a better looking watch for my eye.
I agree but you have to remember luxury brands are not catering to the enthusiast market. If the watch looks expensive then that's probably gonna help it sell. I have the outgoing SO 42 and more than likely it was a bad seller which is why this is total re design that looks very flashy.
The Breitling is a better value. Their brand value might not be top level, but luxury watches are about brand... and nobody outside of watch nerds know what a Formex is.
@@Johnny641 This might be true, but brand is a subjective concept that only provides value to people who care about it. Fundamentally, brand is a false concept that both watch fans and regular people have just come to accept. Not to say it is worthless, but it is only as valuable as the individual believes it is. This is also true of most concepts like finishing and materials, but with those I assign more value because they are physical properties of the watch and can be felt and appreciated by me. Simply put, I do not buy a watch for the brand since that does almost nothing for me, and I largely do not sell my watches but instead keep them. So Brand is something that I just do not care about.
I don’t get the hate. I really like this watch visually wise. I love the bracelet especially micro adjustment. The only thing I don’t like is the movement, way too few power reserve for a new release and the price is also ridicolous. At this price point I am buying a Seamaster. I get it that Breitling likes to make their watches more expensive but then they need to deliver movement wise.
My favorite aspect of the SuperOcean was the big bold numerals. It was for me the calling card of the watch. Now this looks generic and forgettable to me.
I was looking at the 38 mm Navitimer 5 years ago at a local AD and even the rep was telling me not to spend the asking price for an off the shelf ETA movement.
Just ordered this exact model. I hope I'll be able to tell the time with that darn off the shelf movement! Also, I hope I can get to work on time in the case I have to spend 30 sec setting the time if the power reserve runs out.
I just bought it, altogether almost $6,000. While I never had a chance to compare with the previous model, this is indeed a handsome watch. I somehow think the older ons is also very cool with a date and more water resistant (tho I'm not a diver or may not dip this watch in water at all). Can someone console me?
Great review. I am not necessarily in love with the minutes hand, but I sure it would grow in me. That clasp is incredible. How many minutes would it take me to scratch up that beautiful bracelet?
They really do look great. My local AD only had the white 36mm for me to look at and I was really impressed with the watch overall. Especially the new clasp. Well done Breitling 👏
Actually looks sick! Sucks that they're using ETA based movements in these new Super Oceans though.... don't Breitling and TUdor use same movement manufacture??? This has half the power reserve as a tudor black bay and costs more
I have the “old” white dial and blu. Great watch in every respect. No date on the new is an absolute dealbreaker! Also, the dial is not balanced, and looks strange with kind of inner and outer bezel - why two bezels? New clasp with micro adjustment is a welcome update!
This a direct homage to the the Breitling Slo motion chronograph which was the epitome of 60s cool. Look it up. Available almost 60 years ago and it just might have had a longer PR than this. For this version, a 300 m diver, they should have fully lumed the white chapter ring Also bezel back play on a watch of this cost and aspiration to play in the sub submariner market is criminal. Someone at Breitling should be fired for even letting it out of the factory and ultimately into the hands of a major watch TH-camr like RR.
Really love this new super ocean release, thick a lot of boxes... Only disappointment is the movement... Seriously only 38hrs? Come on Breitling at this price point?
I like it!!!!!!...looks great!... The previous white dial/blue bezel, still looks better though... And it is cheaper!... But these look very refined in detail...!
I think their going to dis continue this model at some point in the next couple years, do to that hand set, which will prob make it a limited of sorts in the future, weather that’s a positive or negative in a value, no idea. Just a thought and my opinion, so don’t kill me with replies, I’m just guessing here.
This did not require a ground up read design. Simply improve the movement from a base ETA, add an adjustable bracelet clasp and charge the same amount of money or lower the price. The value proposition just isn’t there. I dig the new design but dislike the polished center links.
@@Bravesailor95 You are forgetting that Brietling completely rebuilds the movement. They get kits not whole movements. Calling it a Selitta or ETA is not accurate. It is put together in house, regulated, and tested by COSC using mostly brietling parts. The movement is mostly brietling parts put together by brietling. The B17 has little resemblance to a SW-200. Oris, Sinn use stock movements, Brietling doesn’t, big difference.
I agree, I have the older model. That was substantially cheaper than a SM so the Movt wasn't an issue. These watches are not aimed at the enthusiast though IMHO, the average luxury watch buyer wont care about the movt so a price bump wont matter me thinks.
Kind of a lackluster that Breitling doesn't move forward in time with better calibres with a new release like this. Only reason i haven't gotten a Breitling yet. For the cost, it's kinda expected these days.
Certainly an original design. It is a bit confusing to me. At first glance you get a compresor dive watch vibe until you realice it has an outer bezel. Overall dimensions are good though I feel the dial face looks small. My biggest complaint is the large minute hand square indicator. Need to see it first hand.
These watches must wear pretty small considering the lug to lug. Which is good for the 44mm which is the only one besides the woman’s 36mm to come in Tiffany blue.
They do. I've got the 42mm model. 42mm is the upper limit of what I would normally consider wearing but it wears like a 40mm. It's because of the small lug-to-lug distance but also because the outer 1mm is just steel that blends into the surroundings so to speak. And the main point of focus is the contrasting chapter ring which is smaller.
that white part of the dial and the lack of triangle on the the bezel is a big miss IMO otherwise they nailed it . approaching the look of a submariner
The previous. model seemed more organic,something they could have gradually improved upon to eventually be in the Submariner/ Seamaster discussion.This model seems like a vintage wrist candy cash grab reminiscent of a microbrand.
I can't tell you just how much I hate polished centre links on bracelets! Not sure why Breitling felt the need to do that to this watch. It's the things that puts me off Aquaterra's. The previous models looked great without it, far more like the tool watch that they are. That said the clasp on this is brilliant. Good for you Breitling for giving so much adjustment. However ultimately this watch is not for me.
Review a ratio freediver, they are from Singapore, sold on amazon, 1000 meters water resistant, sapphire crystal and use the seiko NH35 movement, fantastic value, really nice lume, and they cost 171 bucks, its a real diver watch , tool watch, for actual diving. check it out.
Would you happen to know if there is a "ghost" date position for the new SuperOcean when the crown is unscrewed? I'm a big fan of the outgoing SuperOcean model, but this one does seem more versatile. Cheers.
These are I guess ok. But if I personally had one, I can see myself selling it bc I would tire of its look. I just wish they kept the classic superocean styling with a few small, modernized adjustments.
I'm not a breitling fan and going by other comments it looks like I'm going to be in the minority but........ I really really like the look of this version, price not so much but the looks, oh yes. Edit: just been looking at the different colours, I really like the black but the green could be good if it's a dark-ish green, abit like British racing green.
A little punchy price wise for the specs, should closer to TAG Heuer rather than Omega. I prefer the looks of the older Superocean, I miss the wings! I recently couldn't decide between the older Superocean and the SMP 300. I Decided the SMP300 was worth the extra money, metas, anti magnetic, ceramic bezel. I really want Breitling to succeed but this is another miss for me
Love the older version but not impressed with the new version at all. They've even dropped in the less desirable logo. Everything that made the previous model unique and desirable seems to have been extracted.
Visually, I like the dial of the previous model. While the hands are different, it's not highly attractive to me. I'd prefer the hours numbers, it just seems more functional. I like the clasp on the newer model, but I would chose the previous generation.
I disagree Rob. The previous one has the cool winged logo and the treatment on the hands is way, WAY cooler. Just minor details that make me like it. This one has the over the top bling, but that ceramic bezel is absolutely horrendous. I hate this flashy look and I hate ceramic bezels, also major fail for removing the bolts from the bezel. I wish they stop doing that. The only thing I like is the play of the dial with the anti reflecting coat of the sapphire. That being said, I would pick one (especially if they release yellow), but not at that price.
So they finally took the numbers off the dial, but made the dial smaller with that big Navitimer-esk white chapter ring? 🙄 And that minute hand, I won’t even go there, They could have just put an Avenger type dial and lost the white ring and it would have looked great. I don’t mind the power reserve cuz I don’t want it running for 3 days when I put away (in my rotation). Just adds wear and tear to the watch. My SO II has 38 hours and I like it that way. Overall, I think Breitling blew it here with this version. Would not buy it.
I like the Aqua Blue in 44mm; just ordered, as there aren’t any locally. 👍🏻 One of the better looking units out there IMO … balance of function & style without being over the top flashy.
@@leonardocozza3140 Yeah, the thing is, even though it _looks_ smaller it still takes up space. Although ProMaster is 42 mm too if I'm not mistaken so maybe you could just pull it off. I wouldn't rush the decision though. The two common criticisms of this model are power reserve and the lack of 40 mm size. Breitling is going to refresh this model line sooner or later and they may take the opportunity to introduce 40 mm. I wouldn't buy a watch in this price range without actually trying it on.
@@leonardocozza3140 The rumour is that Breitling can't even estimate delivery dates for new orders at this point because of increased demand. I'm not an insider and this is just what I've heard from the local dealer. However if it's true, even if you rushed to buy right now you would have to wait :) So, at least it might give you some peace of mind.
1. Nice looking watch, except for dial and hands 2. If I wanted an Omega style clasp, I'd rather buy an Omega. Still prefer the clasp style of the pilot bracelet, e.g. for a Chronomat Evolution.
Everyone hating on it vs the previous version like it was a perfect design. I get people saying it feels micro brandish because of how drastic the redesign is but I personally think it's gorgeous. This will be a great second hand piece.
If we ignore all the technical stuff, I think this is by far the best looking Superocean to date
The now previous Superocean was one of the coolest watches out there. All it needed was perhaps an adjustable bracelet and a movement upgrade, maybe 50 hours of power or so for example. When you've got a great thing, careful evolution is the proper choice.
Well said.
I have the blue and white SO42 and I’m glad this new version came out because I’m definitely not letting this piece go now.
Same here :)
Just bought a blue 42mm on rubber while on vacation in the Caribbean for about $4K. Videos don’t do the watch justice. I’ve gotten several complements. Very well executed imo. 48mm lug to lug, and 12.5mm thin - yes, had to get it. The bezel, crown, and winding action all feels improved.
Good choice - have the same on order in 44. 👍🏻
I agree on the wrist this is a beautiful watch, it really does look much better in real life.
Is it 4k at retailers??
@@kevinfowler1218 That’s what I paid at a Breitling boutique..
Can you change the bands?
I like the old model better. The dial design was more fun, cohesive and much more legible. Also, why did they go with polished center links? Divers look much better with fully brushed bracelets imo. Only improvements I see are the bracelet adjustment and the larger crown.
I felt the previous Superoceans were of a more "nautical" feel, i.e. for boating, particularly the Heritage, and more unique in that respect compared to every brand that has a standard diver. This new one for me has a weird mis-match of components, e.g. the hands are terrible, the huge white chapter ring.
This new one has made the old ones look sooooo much better.
It definitely has a microbrand look to it.
The Breitling caliber B17 in this watch is found in many automatic Breitling watches. The B17 is basically an ETA caliber 2824-2 with a Breitling branded rotor. This caliber is said to be assembled and regulated by Breitling and is a Chronometer grade.
ETA is like an insult nowadays lol
@@rm7097 ETA is not an insult just very average...like Ford vs Ferrari for example.
I'd a rather had a refresh of the older model - I'd been tempted several times to buy it. I can't see myself being tempted to buy this new model. Breitling has been doing great things over the past couple of years. I'd really loved the direction they were heading ... normal sizes with watch designs that didn't look like they were juicing steroids - and great colors. This new model just has me scratching my head. The weird bezel/outer design layout, the strange range of sizes - nothing in the 41-38mm range, the bump in price with no increase in power reserve....
Agree. Why is the date is missing?
I have the previous model and agree, I can only think that the outgoing model was a poor seller. This seems like step back to the bling days but perhaps the older model was just lost in the AD window as it was too plain ?? I think the price bump is hard pill to swallow for the enthusiast but for a lay person the Movt probably wont be an issue and Brietling knows this. It just has to look expensive.
Funny that even on the Breitling site they use the old version's picture under the "Collections" that is an unpolite overlook... but tells a lot :) :) :) :)
@@Johnny641 I own the previous model in blue, I was told by Breitling they released that model at an odd time, which impacted it’s presence in the market, but in my opinion it’s certainly a much better watch than the new model, it’s certainty marmite, and I don’t like it.
Just got mine yesterday and love how it looks in person and feels good and light on the wrist
Halo Nick…how is about acuracy?
@@Tribalius I don’t have a tester but after a month maybe off by a few seconds or so from my phone
Dimensions ✔️
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On the fly micro adjust ✔️
Breitling have ticked a lot of boxes with this one
The new one is absolutely fantastic looking. Love that dial and white chapter. This is on my list. Great job Breitling!! They've got a bunch of great dial colors, sizes and this black dial would look great on a NATO. 😀😀😀
I ordered the green 44mm. Seems to be a lot of hate around the dial but it doesn’t bother me one bit.
Nice choice, I think 44mm is the way to go as the dial is so small on the 42 with that large minute track,
This is the the first iteration of the BSO I have ever considered picking up. Everything is an improvement over the previous version for me. Except maybe the minute hand haha Movement is fine. COSC at least
It’s the same ETA based movement. These things lose 50% of their value or more out of the boutique.
@@user-jd2zs8ql1v It's a modified Selita on this new one by all accounts
Especially the Selita movement 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It is eta 2824-2 cosc
I'm more of a fan of the old model. Totally dig the new clasps
I 100% agree.
I'm glad you showed us the how the high polish hands disappear in the write (wrong?) light. I can see why they went with the square minutes hand now. I hope they add more colorways too. The black model is nearly there; just add some texture to the chapter ring and it would be the icing on the cake.
The biggest disservice they did to this watch was not giving it the b20 and making it cost 5,500. That would’ve put it in direct completion with the SMP but instead it’s hovering in no man’s land. To expensive for most but missing a great movement to jump it into the next tier of dress divers. Granted it didn’t stop me from buying one I just know I would’ve paid more money for it to have the b20 and maybe an exhibition case back
I like quirky watches that dare to be different (Seiko Ripley, Tudor P01, Unimatic, Squale, original Cristopher Ward branding, etc.), and this one catches my fancy. Even though I cannot afford watches in this price range, the fact that Breitling is still independent is worth a lot in my esteem, compared to the pretentiousness of corporate luxury watches (e.g. Omega, although I would love to own a Railmaster). Everyone wants a modern upmarket Omega until they have to pay for a service. The almost-generic movement on this Breitling is as tough as they come and much cheaper to keep in top nick, as experienced with my Tudor Heritage Ranger. Two thumbs up from me! Thanks for another great video, Rob.
Hmmmm, I just cannot stomach paying thousands and thousands for an Eta/Selita, and it still only has a 38hr power reserve. I paid less than they want for this for a Tudor North Flag* with a movement that has a 70hr power reserve, is COSC certified and has better features e.g., full balance bridge. It's also supposed to be able to go ten years between services. When you look at these Etas they look like something from the 1950s. *Another quirky watch!
@@willemdeleeuw8094 Good points, Willem ... especially as it applies to the North Flag 😊 (another one of my favourite watches that I should have bought when I still could.) Love those Tudors!
The previous blue and white 42 model that you and OFD have may be the best looking watch out there. I'm not a fan of the new one other than the reduced thickness. I'd rather have 20mm and all brushed bracelet. Plus I like asymmetrical watch dials, so I dig the 12, 6, 9 and date window on the old one.
Love it! I wanted the old one at first and that has changed
I like the look but Breitling should stop using off the shelf movements with Breitling calibre numbers. If they'd put the movement that Tudor shared with them in exchange for Breitling's chrono movement I'd expect it to do better. This one isn't going to stop the demand for big discounts on Breitlings which was Mr Kern's main mission on his appointment.
Well said.
No, this is not more timeless. I will argue that.
And what's up with them not throwing the Tudor Kenisi movement in there?
Thanks, Rob, nice review. Can't get on board with that big chapter ring.
Did you notice the bezel having a little play in them mine does and went to my AD to confirm no issues their on hand watchmaker said its common with these and i even checked display models those aswell have play in the bezel
If I wanted a Super Ocean, I'd personally be hot pawing it to the dealer to get the old model...
I really like the design on this new one, but I think it needs a better movement with a longer power reserve at this price. Anyway it's a very nice watch for me.
Agree. I cancelled my order when I saw what movement it had
Agree. I just received a Christopher Ward C63 Sealander GMT. The Sellita movement has a 56 hour power reserve and adds a GMT complication. The price is 1200USD which makes this watch seem way too expensive.
I have the last gen A17366 black dial. Didn’t like this one at first but it’s really grown on me. Breitling will go In house next few years on all their watches and people will say they miss the ETA2824-2. My pick would be the 44 Dark Navy Dial Black with Black Bezel on Rubber. Only complaint I have is 38HR PR which for a 5K watch in 2023 it’s crazy low! Overall it’s a great daily wear it and forget it watch. 👍
Sadly I do not like the dial an hands.
I miss the date.
Expensive it is too.
The clasp is great.
I really like where Breitling is going lately. Their new direction is refreshing while keeping their vintage inspiration.
You must be joking
That's a hard no from me Dawg. Breitling seems to be turning into a luxury fashion brand. $5K for a Selita with a 38 hour power reserve? Get out of here. They are just not competing with Grand Seiko, Tudor, Omega at all.
Reminds me of Sinn. They're getting more expensive but at least most of their pieces are still tool watches.
Sales says otherwise I guess
Tried it on in the store, and it fits great and looks good, but it doesnt look nearly as good as the previous version.
They removed the colt and now im worried the will destroy the avenger im some way as well.
Okaayy Breitling. You have my attention. Wow. What a strong resurgence to the modern watch landscape. What a design. What a dial. What a case shape and wearability.
love breitlings so much
I have a lot of trouble justifying the price for this over the Formex Reef. Specs are extremely close, and Formex is owned by the same people who manufacture a lot of the parts for Breitling, so the clasp is even extremely similar. In spite of the close specs, the Formex is less than half of what this costs, and honestly seems to be a better looking watch for my eye.
I agree but you have to remember luxury brands are not catering to the enthusiast market. If the watch looks expensive then that's probably gonna help it sell. I have the outgoing SO 42 and more than likely it was a bad seller which is why this is total re design that looks very flashy.
The Breitling is a better value. Their brand value might not be top level, but luxury watches are about brand... and nobody outside of watch nerds know what a Formex is.
@@Johnny641 This might be true, but brand is a subjective concept that only provides value to people who care about it. Fundamentally, brand is a false concept that both watch fans and regular people have just come to accept. Not to say it is worthless, but it is only as valuable as the individual believes it is. This is also true of most concepts like finishing and materials, but with those I assign more value because they are physical properties of the watch and can be felt and appreciated by me.
Simply put, I do not buy a watch for the brand since that does almost nothing for me, and I largely do not sell my watches but instead keep them. So Brand is something that I just do not care about.
In my opinion ceramic bezel, new clasp and power reserve extension should be enough for refreshing to old model.
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I don’t get the hate. I really like this watch visually wise. I love the bracelet especially micro adjustment. The only thing I don’t like is the movement, way too few power reserve for a new release and the price is also ridicolous. At this price point I am buying a Seamaster. I get it that Breitling likes to make their watches more expensive but then they need to deliver movement wise.
My favorite aspect of the SuperOcean was the big bold numerals. It was for me the calling card of the watch. Now this looks generic and forgettable to me.
2022 38 hr pwr res. Sw200 4600 bucks. They are just messing with us now
I was looking at the 38 mm Navitimer 5 years ago at a local AD and even the rep was telling me not to spend the asking price for an off the shelf ETA movement.
Just ordered this exact model. I hope I'll be able to tell the time with that darn off the shelf movement! Also, I hope I can get to work on time in the case I have to spend 30 sec setting the time if the power reserve runs out.
I just bought it, altogether almost $6,000. While I never had a chance to compare with the previous model, this is indeed a handsome watch. I somehow think the older ons is also very cool with a date and more water resistant (tho I'm not a diver or may not dip this watch in water at all). Can someone console me?
Nice review Rob. I ended up ordering the Kelly Slater Limited Edition (orange dial, green strap) of this watch. Can't wait to get it.
Great review. I am not necessarily in love with the minutes hand, but I sure it would grow in me. That clasp is incredible. How many minutes would it take me to scratch up that beautiful bracelet?
They really do look great. My local AD only had the white 36mm for me to look at and I was really impressed with the watch overall. Especially the new clasp. Well done Breitling 👏
Actually looks sick! Sucks that they're using ETA based movements in these new Super Oceans though.... don't Breitling and TUdor use same movement manufacture??? This has half the power reserve as a tudor black bay and costs more
The ETA is amazing especially in Chronometer. That Tudor movement is garbage I have it on the Heritage 2 wish it was ETA
just an FYI only the new port RI location has the breitlings, the cranston RI store has Oris as their top brand in store.
Tasteful re-design for sure. Just wish the chapter ring wasn’t so big radially.
Thanks for recording in 4K!
I have the “old” white dial and blu. Great watch in every respect. No date on the new is an absolute dealbreaker! Also, the dial is not balanced, and looks strange with kind of inner and outer bezel - why two bezels? New clasp with micro adjustment is a welcome update!
I love these new Super Oceans. I think they look best on the rubber straps. I’m going to strongly consider picking one up.
Wow. For a 5k watch the play on the bezel is pretty bad. Also the dial is way too busy and the giant squared minute hand is very distracting.
This a direct homage to the the Breitling Slo motion chronograph which was the epitome of 60s cool. Look it up. Available almost 60 years ago and it just might have had a longer PR than this.
For this version, a 300 m diver, they should have fully lumed the white chapter ring Also bezel back play on a watch of this cost and aspiration to play in the sub submariner market is criminal. Someone at Breitling should be fired for even letting it out of the factory and ultimately into the hands of a major watch TH-camr like RR.
Really love this new super ocean release, thick a lot of boxes... Only disappointment is the movement... Seriously only 38hrs? Come on Breitling at this price point?
I like it!!!!!!...looks great!... The previous white dial/blue bezel, still looks better though... And it is cheaper!... But these look very refined in detail...!
I think their going to dis continue this model at some point in the next couple years, do to that hand set, which will prob make it a limited of sorts in the future, weather that’s a positive or negative in a value, no idea. Just a thought and my opinion, so don’t kill me with replies, I’m just guessing here.
I hope they discontinue this by the end of the week. 👍
This did not require a ground up read design. Simply improve the movement from a base ETA, add an adjustable bracelet clasp and charge the same amount of money or lower the price. The value proposition just isn’t there. I dig the new design but dislike the polished center links.
What a great timepiece! Also wish there are 42 in Tiffany Blue
Yes, the 42mm yellow with satin brushed center link pls. Tks RR.
Like what Breitling is doing with this line, but hate the polished center links!
Imo, looks better and more appropriate on the rubber band.
I love it but no display case back?!
Hi guys, is it worth to buy ? , because it looks awesome
This model at that price can't compete with Omega seamaster professional. Omega better look by far better movement with better power reserve.
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not much of a newer omega watch fan, but i have to agree.......this watch with an eta based movement should be priced closer to a sinn than an omega
@@jh-il5sb I 💯 agree. Overpriced for it movement.
Note: it has a Sellita, not an ETA.
@@Bravesailor95 You are forgetting that Brietling completely rebuilds the movement. They get kits not whole movements. Calling it a Selitta or ETA is not accurate. It is put together in house, regulated, and tested by COSC using mostly brietling parts. The movement is mostly brietling parts put together by brietling. The B17 has little resemblance to a SW-200. Oris, Sinn use stock movements, Brietling doesn’t, big difference.
I agree, I have the older model. That was substantially cheaper than a SM so the Movt wasn't an issue. These watches are not aimed at the enthusiast though IMHO, the average luxury watch buyer wont care about the movt so a price bump wont matter me thinks.
Kind of a lackluster that Breitling doesn't move forward in time with better calibres with a new release like this. Only reason i haven't gotten a Breitling yet. For the cost, it's kinda expected these days.
Certainly an original design. It is a bit confusing to me. At first glance you get a compresor dive watch vibe until you realice it has an outer bezel. Overall dimensions are good though I feel the dial face looks small. My biggest complaint is the large minute hand square indicator. Need to see it first hand.
These watches must wear pretty small considering the lug to lug. Which is good for the 44mm which is the only one besides the woman’s 36mm to come in Tiffany blue.
It is a great model and you guys are doing some fun things for the community for sure. Keep up the great work.
They do. I've got the 42mm model. 42mm is the upper limit of what I would normally consider wearing but it wears like a 40mm. It's because of the small lug-to-lug distance but also because the outer 1mm is just steel that blends into the surroundings so to speak. And the main point of focus is the contrasting chapter ring which is smaller.
Man that older Breitling is going to shoot up in value because that new one is just a shame
that white part of the dial and the lack of triangle on the the bezel is a big miss IMO otherwise they nailed it . approaching the look of a submariner
I would have bought this immediately if it had a matching minute hand to the hour hand.
The previous. model seemed more organic,something they could have gradually improved upon to eventually be in the Submariner/ Seamaster discussion.This model seems like a vintage wrist candy cash grab reminiscent of a microbrand.
will the older models go up in value?
I can't tell you just how much I hate polished centre links on bracelets! Not sure why Breitling felt the need to do that to this watch. It's the things that puts me off Aquaterra's.
The previous models looked great without it, far more like the tool watch that they are. That said the clasp on this is brilliant. Good for you Breitling for giving so much adjustment. However ultimately this watch is not for me.
Best watch ive ever seen
Review a ratio freediver, they are from Singapore, sold on amazon, 1000 meters water resistant, sapphire crystal and use the seiko NH35 movement, fantastic value, really nice lume, and they cost 171 bucks, its a real diver watch , tool watch, for actual diving. check it out.
Would you happen to know if there is a "ghost" date position for the new SuperOcean when the crown is unscrewed? I'm a big fan of the outgoing SuperOcean model, but this one does seem more versatile. Cheers.
There is no ghost position, it’s been confirmed on a few forums
Love pretty much everything about it minus that HUGE chapter ring. Unfortunately, that kinda ruins it for me. 😞
These are I guess ok. But if I personally had one, I can see myself selling it bc I would tire of its look. I just wish they kept the classic superocean styling with a few small, modernized adjustments.
Am I the only one think the last version looks way more better?
I'm not a breitling fan and going by other comments it looks like I'm going to be in the minority but........
I really really like the look of this version, price not so much but the looks, oh yes.
Edit: just been looking at the different colours, I really like the black but the green could be good if it's a dark-ish green, abit like British racing green.
A little punchy price wise for the specs, should closer to TAG Heuer rather than Omega.
I prefer the looks of the older Superocean, I miss the wings!
I recently couldn't decide between the older Superocean and the SMP 300. I Decided the SMP300 was worth the extra money, metas, anti magnetic, ceramic bezel.
I really want Breitling to succeed but this is another miss for me
Love the older version but not impressed with the new version at all. They've even dropped in the less desirable logo. Everything that made the previous model unique and desirable seems to have been extracted.
Visually, I like the dial of the previous model. While the hands are different, it's not highly attractive to me. I'd prefer the hours numbers, it just seems more functional. I like the clasp on the newer model, but I would chose the previous generation.
Who wants to buy a watch after its been thru the hands of several reviewers. Stickers or not...
That chapter ring is bigger than my future.
I disagree Rob. The previous one has the cool winged logo and the treatment on the hands is way, WAY cooler. Just minor details that make me like it. This one has the over the top bling, but that ceramic bezel is absolutely horrendous. I hate this flashy look and I hate ceramic bezels, also major fail for removing the bolts from the bezel.
I wish they stop doing that. The only thing I like is the play of the dial with the anti reflecting coat of the sapphire.
That being said, I would pick one (especially if they release yellow), but not at that price.
Rob does the winding feel like a standard SW-200?
Not at all. You can tell Breitling did some work
georges kern is doing his thing
So they finally took the numbers off the dial, but made the dial smaller with that big Navitimer-esk white chapter ring? 🙄 And that minute hand, I won’t even go there, They could have just put an Avenger type dial and lost the white ring and it would have looked great. I don’t mind the power reserve cuz I don’t want it running for 3 days when I put away (in my rotation). Just adds wear and tear to the watch. My SO II has 38 hours and I like it that way. Overall, I think Breitling blew it here with this version. Would not buy it.
I like the Aqua Blue in 44mm; just ordered, as there aren’t any locally. 👍🏻 One of the better looking units out there IMO … balance of function & style without being over the top flashy.
Looks like a Steinhart Ocean Two.
$5,000 for a ETA 2824 with 42 hours power reserve? NO THANK YOU. Not when I can get a Tudor BB58 for $4,000 or a Pelagos for $5,000!
Old Breitling have character, a new one, if you'll remove branding, indistinguishable from any other microbrand out there.
If they only would have made the dial a little bigger compared to the chapter ring.
sublime watch this Breitling
Nice
Do you think it would wear too big on a 5.9 inches wrist?
They wear like 40..41mm but on 5.9" it would probably be the upper limit, if not a tad out of proportion.
@@baze3SC thanks. The biggest watch I have is citizen promaster ny0040 and it still ok, but I can't wear anything bigger than that
@@leonardocozza3140 Yeah, the thing is, even though it _looks_ smaller it still takes up space. Although ProMaster is 42 mm too if I'm not mistaken so maybe you could just pull it off. I wouldn't rush the decision though. The two common criticisms of this model are power reserve and the lack of 40 mm size. Breitling is going to refresh this model line sooner or later and they may take the opportunity to introduce 40 mm. I wouldn't buy a watch in this price range without actually trying it on.
@@baze3SC a 40mm with decent height and lug to lug would be perfect
I will wait
Thanks!
@@leonardocozza3140 The rumour is that Breitling can't even estimate delivery dates for new orders at this point because of increased demand. I'm not an insider and this is just what I've heard from the local dealer. However if it's true, even if you rushed to buy right now you would have to wait :) So, at least it might give you some peace of mind.
This is a nice watch
1. Nice looking watch, except for dial and hands
2. If I wanted an Omega style clasp, I'd rather buy an Omega. Still prefer the clasp style of the pilot bracelet, e.g. for a Chronomat Evolution.
Prefer the old one , new one looks cheap to me. High polished centre links on a diver ? Not for me .
AR coating on both sides of the sapphire crystal is a deal breaker for me. It changes the watch from lifetime watch to a five year disposable watch.
Looks sick 🔥
10:50 "And here's the Superocean next to a cheaper and far superior watch"
no date ?