Along with prohibiting pharmaceutical companies from advertising we should also prohibit them from sponsoring our news media. Because they create these organic looking stories that are much more destructive than the commercials.
I have to ask, where are you living? That's all that's on commercials where I live. My son said to me, mom refresh my memory. Back in the day wasn't it unethical and illegal for attorneys and pharmaceutical companies to advertise? I said, yes and we need to go back to that. On some Firestick apps you can watch old commercials and oh how cute and feel good they were. Today? Medical Medical Medical! They don't want us feeling good. There was a guy from another country that visited here and couldn't believe the medical commercials. He said, it's banned in his country. They feel that's between you and your Dr. Bingo! Its just a result of the testing of Americians during covid. They found out how to get control of America in the guise of health.
@@kathystoneburner4947 That happened a long time ago. The US government has been operating as a business for a long time already. I don't know why anyone thinks that will hold anyone accountable when clearly, corporations are above the law.
"If it's Woke, then it is political, and if it's political, then it's not accidental...Pretty much meaning this has all been being done intentionally." -- Tripwire
OBAMA Biden administration is being investigated for human trafficking. Research -Myths and Facts about women and children sex trafficking . WOkE OBAMA
If it’s political it’s not accidental. Makes zero sense. Beware of insightful sounding quotes vs actual wisdom. There are an overaboundance of political ideals which are simply natural. Most of the “Anti Woke” political ideals, are simply common sense elevated to the point of necessity of action.
One thing that I think many people under say 30 don't know is.... Prescription drug ads on TV didn't happen before around 1997. Before then, they didn't exist. The reason they didn't put ads on TV was the drug makers were concerned about all the disclaimers they had to put in about the drugs, and didn't want to take up a long amount of time in the ads to put in the disclaimer. That all changed in 1997 when the FDA clarified what they would require in a TV spot. But I think Adam is quite correct that we need to end this practice. Not only does it create this weird space where people are asking to be put on a drug they saw in an ad, but it only increases costs for drug companies. Ads are like a munition, and if the other guy is using it, you have to as well to compete. If congress were to act, and ban them... it'd level the playing field, and drug makers could direct more money towards... developing new drugs.
I love if you have HIV/and HepC/and and and, hell just shoot me. We need to totally do away with medical on TV. Its all about Americans compliance during covid and how easy they get control in America in the name of health. I love the commercials that promote a drug then the next is an attorney to go after the drug that was promoted. Its all about keeping people in compliance and fear for their health.
@@KM-zn3lx As fucked up as it is, it is considered normal in some sub cultures. For example there are gay guys that have basically decided that they are going to have unprotected anal sex with many partners and that they will eventually inevitably get H.I.V. It's 100% a thing and not an all that uncommon one in the gay community. Which is also why straight porn stars can't have H.I.V. but for gay and bi porn stars it's again basically treated as an inevitability. Like if that's your profession, "gay/bi porn star," you probably have H.I.V. But that just expresses the real world reality of gay guys that have unprotected anal sex with many partners. Whether a camera is there or not. These are general statements of course. There is also a sub culture of gay people that consider unprotected anal sex or even anal sex at all as basically unthinkable. Because you're going to end up sleeping with someone who has H.I.V. Just look at the commercials themselves. It's obvious who they are being directed at. Plus, medically speaking, living a "full life" with H.I.V. has become a reality in the developed world.
Totally true observations about the “new” sex and the city. So glad to hear young women seeing the “over the top” show completely saturated with an agenda!! There is hope…
2020 lifted the veil, many of the real young now have parents laser focused on teaching them the true meaning of equality, morality and a merit base society
I’ve seen male managers at my company with 20+ years of experience. Meanwhile, the women in the same position at the same level have 2-5 years of experience. We’re moving junior engineers to management simply because they’re women. It happens even faster if they have brown skin. It makes a mockery of the whole performance review and promotion process. Oh, you’re a white, male senior engineer with 20 years of experience? No promotion for you!
My god , this is the first normal conversation I have ever heard or watched in the last few years …Im astonished, I thought common sense died out , never to return
You haven't been listening to women, then - or hearing the wrong ones - because the g e n d e r critical movement has been speaking sanity for about a half decade now, but no one's listening because they get the libfems (woke, female MRAs) mixsed up with us, the real fems. This is SO refreshing because it's the first two white males in a normal conversation, free of misogyny and other derailments - two SMART white dudes - that i've seen in about a decade. Notice they're both DADs of girls, which makes them immune to the sexism of childless men with small-dog syndrome.
What a trip! I just found your TH-cam channel, and, started watching --- then thought 🤔 "Adam Curry?!?" and sure enough - it's the same MTV Adam Curry ... So cool!!!
Thank you for sharing your his conversation, I’m currently working for a company that is forcing us to attend d e i programs and I feel so frustrated and alone. Too many of my colleagues are starting to buy into this bs. I feel very alone.
The APA was infiltrated and taken over during one of their conventions a couple of decades ago. They literally bullied the rest of the organization to change the definition and nature of homosexuality in the list of psychological disorders. This was done by revolution and in no way by scientific research or data.
@@boathousejoed1126Grown ass people unhinged in public. It’s pathetic lol. CIA in media. Why not? Unbelievable. Then again, this video is two men complaining about political correctness still. These dinosaurs will be laughed at by our descendants but for now they hold this country back. Maybe they will get bent out of shape about the next SpongeBob movie next lol
You say: James Lindsay "punches too hard for me". I hear: "I'm not strong enough for his message" ...is this the message that you really intend to send? Because that's exactly how it reads. Be stronger. Push back if you have to, but hear him.
James Lindsay is a godsend, he confirmed my suspicions about what's going on with the left and I'm reassured that I made the right decision in leaving the left in 2021. I only wish I had recognized it sooner.
Definition of Woke: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men and women are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
I saw the new Barbie movie. What I noticed is that the women were on permanent vacation after the patriarchy took over Barbie land. At the end of the movie, Barbie chose the patriarchy.
it is and Curry went on to literally invent the podcast format, give it Google, his current "No Agenda" podcast is a fantastic show and well worth the listen.
@@theletterm1787 you won’t be saying that if you get your way🤣 communism isn’t evil. Capitalism provides us with everything you need. You’ll either face a wall or starve.
It is indeed him and he later went on to literally invent the podcast format, his current "No Agenda" podcast is a fantastic show and well worth the listen.
Rational thought just isn't going to catch on. All of our biases and instinctive misinterpretations of information require the effort to self educate. The public isn't being encouraged to learn how to understand things. They're just being "influenced" by competing industries and political morons. Nobody is demanding that we completely restructure the public education system to include vital instruction on how to evaluate information. Even if that was to take place, it would be 2 or 3 generations before it would make a difference.
This video needs rational thought. These guys are bitching about a Barbie move. That movie wasn’t even woke haha! Barbie at the end decides to leave the matriarchy and live in the real world. And the new sex and the city was just a bad show overall. There are plenty of shows that are ultra woke that are good. Bojack horsemen, euphoria. This is just boomer ramblings haha
@@Supsboredrnyeah, these guys are honestly just morons. This was a bunch of dumb random jargon. Their explanations are judgmental and half assed. Not professional, or even informative for that matter. Just older men that talk like they’re chronically online.
Don’t you get it by now? Public schools and liberal colleges are indoctrination camps. They purposely don’t teach us to think, because a corrupt authoritarian government’s biggest enemy is an educated, free thinking populace. Public schools were started and initially funded by JD Rockefeller, to train qualified workers, because most people back then were too stupid to follow simple instructions and couldn’t even read. He said it himself, “I don’t want a nation of thinkers, I want a nation of workers.” And when our government saw how effective a tool it could be for indoctrination, they took over public schools, and ran with the idea. Why do you think rote memorization is prioritized over critical thinking? Because bosses want their workers to be able to remember how to do a job, or work a machine, but not smart enough to figure out how to start their own company and become their competition. Schools teach you to assimilate and submit to authority. Do your work, get a reward. Don’t do your work, get a punishment. Frederick T Gates of the General Education Board said “In our dream, we have endless resources, and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hand. We won’t search for great artists, painters, musicians, nor doctors, lawyers, or statesmen, of which we already have an ample supply. No, our dream is a simple and a beautiful one; to train these people as we find them, to a perfectly ideal life exactly where they already are.” They didn’t even bother to hide their intentions back then.. They basically straight up said poor people are stupid, we’re going to teach them to be happy being stupid and poor. And they certainly succeeded. Exhibit A ⬆️
Laziness…anyone can decide to think for themselves…they are choosing to let someone else dictate what they believe. They can’t admit they’ve been played.
The “studies” may not have been complete til 2019 but the “Do you want a dead daughter, or…” followed closely on the heels of “Do you want your child to go through life alone, without love?” 2007? When marriage was being redefined.
Wow, you made some really compelling arguments there. Curry went from VJ to inventing the podcast format (look it up) and his current pod (No Agenda) is top 50 in the world while you're still worshipping roided up dead wrestlers.
All can think is that you are so out of touch that this doesn’t sound like regurgitation of a mama bird with as many stomachs as a cow. They are apologetic about stuff which others have been saying for ever. Pointing out that coming of age for a woman is a period of physical and mental discomfort that makes them feel Disphoria isn’t controversial, it wasn’t controversial when Jordan Peterson said it four years ago and it’s only gotten to be common place now. This show is safer than the day care inside the nerf corperate office. It’s grog… water down spirit of something which others consume on the regular as a staple, for people who have no sense of this cultures pulse at all. To the point where points that the populist movement has been making for close to a decade are considered insightful. My suspicion is the core audience of this show is democrats who are just now realizing that the left left them a lonnggg time ago and are too milktoast to actually try listening to the opposition.
How is a show "too woke" for having a disabled character who's pregnant? Disabled women exist in real life, shocking I know. Also, the Declaration of Independence didn't give women any rights. Abigail Addams herself wrote to her husband John and told her to "remember the ladies" when the Declaration was being written, and he refused. We need to have specific rights for different groups of people codified into law because different minorities are impacted by inequality in different ways, and thus need different laws to level the playing field.
I'm hetero ... and, back in the day, my friends and I couldn't wait to develop breasts... because they are a lovely attribute of femininity, that coming of age ... Not one girl we ever came across 'didn't want breasts ...if you were under endowed, that was the attribute that upset teens.
I’m not an expert but for what it’s worth, my understanding of “woke” and “woke-ness” is when you “wake up” to see that the place where you live doesn’t care about you. It makes sense that you want to watch movies or read books that you can relate to. It also makes sense to me that many people have specific things that they relate to but never see in books, TV, movies, etc. It can also get more serious than that when we talk about government. If a citizen of a country like The U.S. feels that no one in power cares about their specific needs or concerns, it’s going to bring out a lot of emotions. I do think that “woke-ness” has kind of become a parody of itself at this point because every time it comes up nowadays, it feels very surface level. However, I personally do think that there’s value in that basic idea!
@mallen151 The woke movement is a brainwashing movement to convince everyone that their purpose is to rail against injustices for minorities. But it’s really about taking advantage of people who believe in the movement and using their outrage about injustice as well as perceived injustices, to further the government’s goal of controlling us more and more. How do people not see this? The fact that people don’t see it is terrifying. You think you have been “awakened” to now start fighting against all the evil in the world. You’re just a pawn if you’re buying anything the media or government is telling you. They are the evil who is selling the guise of the whole movement. Pay attention where US money goes, and where that money comes from in the first place. Politics isn’t about electing people who have charisma or protect our feelings. It’s about us electing officials who keep our country financially and militarily strong against threats like Russia and China who want us dead so bad that they are LOVING the smell of blood in the water with Biden as the LEADER OF THE (for now) FREE WORLD who can’t find his way off an 8 foot stage w one set of stairs in front of him, and all our citizens being dumbed down so quickly that they can’t even tell you how a bill gets passed. Or that China is coming for us. I mean, the entire planet was shut down for THREE YEARS bc of China, and people are just goin about their lives, spewing lies the media is feeding them, perfectly happy to be told what to think & do. Remember this when we become a communist country.
You're right. Absolutely, but people are taking it to a ridiculous degree on all sides. I just can't stand that sect of people who just use "woke" as a password for 'not allowed' or 'I don't like this...its woke'.
I first saw the phrase "get woke" from a black-American church sermon somewhere in Chicago, where the preacher kept going on about white supremacy destroying the land of khemet and how the U.S. is some great destroyer, back in 2008. "Get woke, mother f&^$er."
Your understanding is laughably fucking WAAAAAAAAAAY off. The definition of "woke" is forcing super rare stupid shit into EVERYTHING and trying to pretend it's normal. Glad I could help!
The Barbie movie is fuking hilarious. I’m a 40 y/o, straight, white, dude. I laughed more than I’ve laughed in years. The whole movie I was just thinking… “wtf”. Go into it with a buzz
I used to be woke. I was constantly getting triggered. I protested everything that offended me, and demanded it all be cancelled. Finally I grew out of it, and went to preschool.
Do you not realize that that's exactly what the left is doing right now? I left the left over it, there's a difference of being accepting/tolerant and flipping society upside-down in the name of identity politics.
If it’s not your cup of tea don’t drink it. No one is asking or forcing you to confirm or identify with anything involving the LGBTQ community, you have that freedom still.👍
I think the thing you’re missing in your “everybody’s rights” is that despite the declaration people have to be reminded constantly. The subsequent constitution had to be amended because of what we thought of other humans.
And it’s coming full circle. SO WHAT? It was changed, based on MAJORITY about 4-6-8 generations ago here in America. SO WHAT! I used to be an alcoholic and drug addict. Im not drinking and drugging now, am I still an alcoholic addict? What you seem to be missing is that anger of the past that has CHANGED is a breeding ground for negative, regressive and truly evil thinking. Don’t you know an eye for an eye leave the world blind?
@@christopherkucia1071it's moreso that past lives on today in various ways. Some people still aren't allowed to shop due to genetic code. Some people face jail sentences over code. Some people face penalties and hardships no one else does. That's not equality yet that's present reality.
@@GunmetalEar are you talking about in America? Because people aren’t being targeted by genetic code in America. Unless you mean caucasians and males in America.
@@christopherkucia1071 the only answer I can give is hate. The problem is we gotta recognize that it still is a problem today. 1 federal law means jack shit in the us historically and still means jack shit
The problem with so many people that complain about wokeness is that, while they can make some legit points, they cast such a wide net that it often just devolves another bitch session.
I liked Barbie, it was way more nuanced than some content creators gave it credit for. It went really woke and then realized 😢hey were treating the kens just as bad as they were complaining about the other way. I think it worked. The message was we can’t swing too far the other way but equality is important to fight for no matter the side. Also gender dysphoria has been a proven mental disorder for nearly a century so they do, empirically, exist and we should be able to accept them for who they are as adults. A lot of people are falsely being diagnosed with this and that’s the problem.
That's a stupid ass message. We already have equality, America is literally the most "equal" country there is. But some fucks want to be more equal than others so they push the woke agenda.
The reason there is a amplification of the rights of specific minority groups is that not all people are treated equally. I was alive when Jim Crowe laws were in place and segregation was real. As late as the 70’s banks would not approve credit cards for married women unless their husbands approved. So, unfortunately no, not all people are treated equally.
I think you're correct that the people driving this won't stop. They never have in the past. These people existed in the 90s as well. I knew some of them. They were annoying, and made the same dumb claims about racism. A GF of a friend of mine used to go off about how things like how racist Star Wars producer George Lucas was, and how racist Jar-Jar Binks was. She was in academia, where this sort of attitude was nursed and encouraged in some circles at the time. She managed to convince my friend, her boyfriend, but nobody else. We all sort of tolerated her, but she was in general that "annoying judgmental progressive type". All those attitudes you see now that are so, so annoying were all embodied in her, and people like her in the 90s. Sometime around 2015, there was some kind of tipping point, and suddenly everyone started listening to these types of people. It was like the 50s and communism all over again, but this time it was the left wing leading the charge. So I think the point is that these type of people and attitudes have existed for a long time. It's only recently they got magnified, and it became "cool" to listen to them, and you were a "bad guy" if you didn't. To me, THAT"S the pendulum. Who does the mainstream world listen to and follow? Because the world is filled with thousands of different ideas, opinions, and voices. But only a few get magnified.
@stevesether they've been chipping away at it for a long time. The internet and especially social media have allowed them to accelerate the plan exponentially.
About “peak woke” in the Sex and the City reboot, if representing people in fiction who didn’t used to be represented is woke, then so are representations of Jews, black lead roles, Italians, Greeks, Eastern Europeans, women as business owners and CEOs, Asians, happy single women, mixed race couples, Catholics, black and Asian characters who aren’t household servants, married couples with one bed in the master br. When each of those things showed up, even once, on TV our film, it was called out as wrong by many, and, for sure, even to those -including myself- who saw them for the first time, and weren’t offended by them, they could be a bit ham-fisted. Once most petite got over it, and new generations didn’t know it was ever a thing, the any dominant-culture voices got quiet.
Yes, BUT, our lives cross with each others’! If a man wants to live his life as a woman, I’m fine with that. But as a woman, I don’t want him in women’s dressing room, women’s bathrooms, women’s gym changing rooms! So how does that get sorted out while you’re living your life and I am living my life? There has to be rules. And, this type of stuff mostly seems to affect women, and not men.
Disembodiment didn't begin with the internet, it began much earlier than that. Descartes had the mind-body separation, and Kant brought our consciousness to focus and retreat inwards and to frame our world as being constructed by our own consciousness. It's not hard to then derive many of our modern dilemmas (e.g. the belief that gender is constructed inwards rather than something that manifests in the external "real" world and also the fetishization of personal identity). The internet just exacerbated a change in our psyches that have been evolving for centuries. ALL of our psyches not just the people we disagree with.
Pronouns again? Nothing like two white straight guys talking about how marginalized folks should be treated. I’m a helicopter? Tell me you’ve never talked to a trans person without telling me you never talked to a trans person. This type of dismissive conversation doesn’t come close to masking their bigotry.
Everyone has a good and bad conscience. The internet gave everyone a place to indulge in there bad decision making and we allowed our kids to grow up in this space. What did we expect.
You sir are absolutely right, it gave people an any anonymous space where the economy is based on the same attention grabbing that slows traffic during an accident. I am delighted to see such a concise conclusion. Now I think the horrific question is how do we put the internet back in the bottle without losing our access to the worlds information. It’s obvious that the internet is caustic and injurious to young peoples development and by extension the world but how do we keep it from young people without becoming villains or the engineers of a tyranny that will blind us all.
We allowed the internet to develop our kids' consciences, or lack thereof. We have made many mistakes: one of them is to stop being the adults who guide children. We gave children too much power too soon. The schools took over from parents, and they gave the kids power they were not ready to assume. Now those kids are manning the woke ship of state.
You guys just described not only education and the current "groupthink " we're living in, but also the way our government works. "Dice, slice, and dice". Divide and conquer. Nobody even gives a shit anymore, and we the people just go along with it as if it's normal. Thanks for this discussion. And by the way, thank you for your insightful podcast, Adam! You were always one of my favorite vj's back in the day, I was there from day 1, August 1st, 1981. Before I recognized all this BS we've been fed forever, especially in recent decades . Keep on keepin' on, man. ✌🏻❤️✨🎶
I was recently told by a African American female Uber driver that it’s ok that the kkk doesn’t like Mexicans because they are not legal and also violent people. Woke culture in this situation would identify the race as having equal rights to all other races because we are all deserving of the right to live (in most cases). The issue people are having with woke culture is that it does point out that the minority exist and should be respected and acknowledge when the majority is like no we are humans we respect eveyone, please don’t point out your problems. Both sides want to be acknowledged and respected. I don’t see the issue with calling someone by their preferred name because it does not conflict with my morality that we are all created equal.
Idk I’m not really tryna pick one side or the other here… I think identifying as a toaster or whatever might be extreme lol but ig I can kinda understand jus wanting to be “them” if someone doesn’t feel comfortable as he/she… my deal tho…when you say shit like this isn’t natural, it’s not healthy, it has to stop…kinda seems to me like you have the same mindset just on the opposite side… seems like everyone’s so convinced that they’re right and everybody else is wrong. (Goes for all sides imo) Adam says “it makes no sense” …sure it might not make sense to you but it seems to make sense to other people… why are their thoughts/feelings/opinions not valid?
I used to be like you. Until I started asking myself what makes people want to identify as “them” Upon asking many different accounts I realized, most of the time it’s because they think they’re limited to whats associated with being he/she. Or that there’s something unappealing they associate with it.
Why in the discussion, when the pronunciation of "therapist" was being considered, was the word "rapist" muted? Do they seriously think their audience cannot handle hearing it? We're grown men and women. We're not that delicate. Don't start with the censorship. We get enough of that already.
that's just TH-cam. creators have to be very careful with certain words, or they will be demonitized or have the vid taken down all together . it's silly yes. but I understand why they do it
Interesting conversation. I'm a Liberal guy, I do think the iPhone and internet was key to accelerating the woke movement, which I'm not totally against all of it, but they've gone too far in some areas.
A friend of mine’s daughter was a kindergarten teacher and was fired (after a second warning) after addressing her class as “boys & girls.” The world has literally gone to HELL and we no longer live in a democracy, haven’t for a long time now
@@gracenc Oh how far we have digressed as a nation since our forefathers built this once great nation we are now told what we can & cannot say as well as trying to be controlled how we should think and our freedom of speech & liberties have been slowly stripped away to nil.
@@TheRobotButler There's a bunch of examples. The patriarchy that Ken implements in Barbie world has the women subservient, but they are portrayed as happy. When Barbie world is returned to a Matriarchy, that prior happiness was equated to brainwashing. It suggests women can't determine for themselves what makes them happy, they can only accept a paradigm. When Ken learns of the patriarchy, he attempts to get a job by merit of being male alone. It doesn't work. It's a patriarchy trope denied. Playing with cartoonish patriarchy tropes can be considered antiwoke. The movie seems to mock feminism in practice when it's not overtly romanticizing it. Woke concepts are toys they play with, without delivering a coherent message. It's a movie for everyone then, maybe.
In generational terms, there’s group of parents who are chill, easy-going, and able to see the big picture-that new ideas are inevitable and allowing kids to have the freedom to explore new ideas is a healthy way for them to learn critical thinking skills. But of course, you have the flip side as well-the curmudgeon parents. “I don’t understand all this. I don’t see why things have to be different than the way we did them. Everything was just fine the way it was. I don’t like change. It makes me uncomfortable, and that shouldn’t be allowed. Everything should be the way I want it to be.” The irony is that when this second group were teenagers, they complained about their parents behaving exactly the same way. 😂😂😂
Denying reality isn't children exploring new ways to think. It's insanity. When us older people were kids the complaining from older generations was "your hair is to long and I don't like this Metallica band". The complaints now are "these made up genders are anti reality and no you're not a dog in human skin". The only real bright spot is when you talk to kids under 18 there still is the fake gender kids here and there, but for the most part they see through how ridiculous and pointless it all is. The nice thing about kids is typically they're brutally honest.
Kind of a different story when your kids are being indoctrinated, encouraged to cut off body parts and change genders. But I guess we’re just being “old” and “uncool” we should just “go with the flow, it’s a learning experience,” right? I have an idea, if you want to tell kids what they should and shouldn’t do, HAVE YOUR OWN F***ING KIDS and stay away from everyone else’s.
I was just talking about this was a friend. We were going back and forth saying there's only far this can go before there's not enough people to support the crazy- taxes. bureaucracy, etc.
Every single one of these people I've asked has said that they were looking at trans content on social media and felt like they "related" to how the trans person says they felt. Social media, being influenced by peers, and adults grooming them by introducing these theoretical ideologies onto them are the biggest factors in this social contagion. These are vulnerable young people who are being influenced into changing their identities, nobody will ever convince me otherwise because everything I've seen with my own eyes leads to the same conclusion. This is evil, thousands of lives will be destroyed over this.....
@@SpringyGirl69 You people always come up with the most childish responses.....I'm not crying over anything, if you wanna destroy your life that's on you.....
@@SpringyGirl69 child. xD if anyone’s crying it would for YOU and your well being. You don’t realize it now but lemme tell ya that life is unforgiving and you’re gonna learn the hard way. You Will be the one being laughed at in the end.
It starts in the public schools. The teachers are honoring the ignorance of the children and keeping secrets from the parents instead of teaching them the things they need to navigate life.
I married a Tomboy and she gave me 3 children and 9 grandchildren and we are one big happy family. If she was convinced to change her gender none of those wonderful lives would be with us today. Think about that for half a second.
My 12 year old daughter and her friends (seemingly much of her school) are leaning hard into bombastic expressions of racism, homophobia, transphobia, and sexism because they think its shockingly hilarious. Her friend group is simultaneously diverse (across race, gender, and sexual orientation) and, at the same time, firing "cancel-worthy" verbal intolerance at both themselves and others. They think it's funny. The cycle of "I'm not whatever came before, no matter what came before," seems (anecdotally) in full effect across GenA and "wokeness" is a major target of derision.
The Barbie movie in my eyes is positive. It’s a movie about not letting trivial things like a “patriarchy” or ego get in the way of what matters, which is the relationships we have with eachother, man or woman.
"WOKENESS"🤔 refers to a contemporary ideology rooted in Critical Theory, race, and identity politics, often infused with elements of Marxism, which emphasizes a hierarchical view of victim-hood and collective identity. This ideology tends to prioritize group identities over individual agency, leading to an overemphasis on identity categories such as race, gender, and sexual orientation. Critics argue that "wokeness" fosters a culture of victim-hood, promotes intolerance towards differing viewpoints (commonly known as "cancel culture"), and undermines the principles of individualism and meritocracy. Furthermore, it is often associated with policies and practices that prioritize diversity over qualifications, potentially leading to reverse discrimination and the devaluation of excellence and achievement.
My son is 13 and my ex is super woke. I didn’t say anything except for “when you hear these things, think about it for a few days. If it doesn’t make sense to you, then you don’t believe it.” It worked well.
I was born in 1966 it was a very different time!!! Everyone has a right to an opinion but in this day and age someone else’s opinion is always shoved in our faces. When it comes to pronouns and binary I just don’t understand it. When I was growing up we could all have a good debate and agree to disagree!!!
@@chrisbeerguy1489 They could be completely right, or completely wrong, and I wouldn't care either way. It's the idea of someone paying a large sum of money to force their way into your youtube feed I'm taking issue with.
@@johnbigelson7471 Paid programming is just another form of advertising. TH-cam, like every other form of media, bases its business model on advertising revenue. Just because it’s in your feed doesn’t mean you are obligated to watch it. It’s like surfing TV channels and skipping past the infomercials. I don’t see what the big deal is.
@@chrisbeerguy1489 Absolutely it's just another form of advertising, and they paid for that space. However, I distinguish advertisements for a _product_ from advertisements for _ideas_ . It's also no secret these pay-to-play videos are designed to closely resemble regular legitimate videos so that they can be easily mistaken, that's be design. It's not surprising why youtube does this, what is surprising is people not on their payroll defending the practice.
@@johnbigelson7471 I never defended the practice. I’m just being realistic. What do you think dark money political ads are? Even worse, paid news content designed to sway public opinion on a topic… William Randolph Hearst was a master of this practice. It’s not like selling ideas is some grave recent development in Western civilization. People have been selling ideas for millennia. This is nothing new. I think you should take into account a perspective of the history of yellow journalism and CIA propaganda, and realize that you are fed a lot more BS by mainstream outlets that work for powerful interests, and they do not disclose their sponsors. At least these guys identify themselves as paid programming. The CIA literally pays “journalists” to make up news, you know that right? Read up on Project Mockingbird and Operation Northwoods and get a red-pill sized dose of reality dude. Or more recently, how about Big Tech colluding with Big Government to suppress information?
It’s mendacity -if they can get you to say a girl is a boy, or a child should control the parent, then they can say anything. They can say children can identify as adults and lower the age of consent
The point he made about pronouns disrupting the relationship between child and parent is so true and important. I've always been against it for its nonsensical clash with biology, but I never thought of it from that perspective
“Talk to your provider” is the street equivalent of talking to your dealer.
Woke is a lie they are no different than the KKK but bitter ugly women
Along with prohibiting pharmaceutical companies from advertising we should also prohibit them from sponsoring our news media. Because they create these organic looking stories that are much more destructive than the commercials.
JEOPARDY! Is being sponsored by MODERNA? WTF?!
Yes, I was called NPR. But, the corporate goons in Washington managed to undermine that too!
Ho Ho Ho... Green giant.
I have to ask, where are you living? That's all that's on commercials where I live. My son said to me, mom refresh my memory. Back in the day wasn't it unethical and illegal for attorneys and pharmaceutical companies to advertise? I said, yes and we need to go back to that. On some Firestick apps you can watch old commercials and oh how cute and feel good they were. Today? Medical Medical Medical! They don't want us feeling good. There was a guy from another country that visited here and couldn't believe the medical commercials. He said, it's banned in his country. They feel that's between you and your Dr. Bingo! Its just a result of the testing of Americians during covid. They found out how to get control of America in the guise of health.
@@kathystoneburner4947 That happened a long time ago. The US government has been operating as a business for a long time already. I don't know why anyone thinks that will hold anyone accountable when clearly, corporations are above the law.
"If it's Woke, then it is political, and if it's political, then it's not accidental...Pretty much meaning this has all been being done intentionally."
-- Tripwire
OBAMA Biden administration is being investigated for human trafficking. Research -Myths and Facts about women and children sex trafficking . WOkE OBAMA
If it’s political it’s not accidental. Makes zero sense. Beware of insightful sounding quotes vs actual wisdom.
There are an overaboundance of political ideals which are simply natural. Most of the “Anti Woke” political ideals, are simply common sense elevated to the point of necessity of action.
Your tooo old to be this gay
DIVIDE AND CONQUER.
What’s being done intentionally
One thing that I think many people under say 30 don't know is.... Prescription drug ads on TV didn't happen before around 1997. Before then, they didn't exist.
The reason they didn't put ads on TV was the drug makers were concerned about all the disclaimers they had to put in about the drugs, and didn't want to take up a long amount of time in the ads to put in the disclaimer. That all changed in 1997 when the FDA clarified what they would require in a TV spot.
But I think Adam is quite correct that we need to end this practice. Not only does it create this weird space where people are asking to be put on a drug they saw in an ad, but it only increases costs for drug companies. Ads are like a munition, and if the other guy is using it, you have to as well to compete. If congress were to act, and ban them... it'd level the playing field, and drug makers could direct more money towards... developing new drugs.
Yeah it's so fun to watch ads saying Treat your HIV with this medication as if that's normal to have lifelong HIV!
Big Pharma Tv commercials or not is a corrupt and greedy entity. FDA is a freaking joke.
I love if you have HIV/and HepC/and and and, hell just shoot me. We need to totally do away with medical on TV. Its all about Americans compliance during covid and how easy they get control in America in the name of health. I love the commercials that promote a drug then the next is an attorney to go after the drug that was promoted. Its all about keeping people in compliance and fear for their health.
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As fucked up as it is, it is considered normal in some sub cultures. For example there are gay guys that have basically decided that they are going to have unprotected anal sex with many partners and that they will eventually inevitably get H.I.V. It's 100% a thing and not an all that uncommon one in the gay community. Which is also why straight porn stars can't have H.I.V. but for gay and bi porn stars it's again basically treated as an inevitability. Like if that's your profession, "gay/bi porn star," you probably have H.I.V. But that just expresses the real world reality of gay guys that have unprotected anal sex with many partners. Whether a camera is there or not.
These are general statements of course. There is also a sub culture of gay people that consider unprotected anal sex or even anal sex at all as basically unthinkable. Because you're going to end up sleeping with someone who has H.I.V.
Just look at the commercials themselves. It's obvious who they are being directed at. Plus, medically speaking, living a "full life" with H.I.V. has become a reality in the developed world.
We have - plenty of drugs!
Totally true observations about the “new” sex and the city. So glad to hear young women seeing the “over the top” show completely saturated with an agenda!! There is hope…
Make no mistake, this is a top down movement. It’s designed to tear us apart.
Yup
You’re talking about the people who made this video, right?
@@antiantiderivative I think we're talking about the WEF and fake shady douchebags like Bill Gates.
@@antiantiderivativeno you’re a clown
Literally they want you to get along. You are the one separating
25 year teacher. Its much worse than anybody thinks. Yes it started with the iphone. I can say at this point its too late. Start digging in.
2020 lifted the veil, many of the real young now have parents laser focused on teaching them the true meaning of equality, morality and a merit base society
I’ve seen male managers at my company with 20+ years of experience. Meanwhile, the women in the same position at the same level have 2-5 years of experience. We’re moving junior engineers to management simply because they’re women. It happens even faster if they have brown skin. It makes a mockery of the whole performance review and promotion process. Oh, you’re a white, male senior engineer with 20 years of experience? No promotion for you!
Adam was the best MTV VJ. Thank you for your sane response to wokeness, Adam.
I always loved Adam! 🩷
Not Kennedy?
Curry literally invented the podcast format, his current "No Agenda" podcast is a fantastic show and well worth the listen.
James Lindsay punches hard because he doesn't underestimate this problem as much as you do Daddyo.
If you think they can’t get more ridiculous and absurd just wait.
Women always drink the coolaid. Men of every race are rejecting this bullshit. We’re just afraid of speaking & getting fired.
Lefties will never stop. If you thought cutting off a Weiner was weird just wait.
Nope, its all down hill from here, thank God.
@@namastewellnessthank God for everything to go downhill even more? Why thank God for that exactly?
They? Who are they?
Apparently this guys never heard of The Soviet Union. It can always get more extreme.
My god , this is the first normal conversation I have ever heard or watched in the last few years …Im astonished, I thought common sense died out , never to return
And notice that it’s two white males
@@AUniqueHandleName444theyre not ready for that
He watches sex and the city with his wife though.
Two white guys telling us how it is.
You haven't been listening to women, then - or hearing the wrong ones - because the g e n d e r critical movement has been speaking sanity for about a half decade now, but no one's listening because they get the libfems (woke, female MRAs) mixsed up with us, the real fems. This is SO refreshing because it's the first two white males in a normal conversation, free of misogyny and other derailments - two SMART white dudes - that i've seen in about a decade. Notice they're both DADs of girls, which makes them immune to the sexism of childless men with small-dog syndrome.
Happy to find this kind of content! Subscribed!
Just poke the bear… wait it isn’t chained! America kicks ***
This was a great interview, thank you! I have always been a fan of the myth busters guy and the actor who plays the hulk
😂😂😂
I’m DEAD 🤣
The “guy who plays the Hulk” is a pathetic woke zombie. He can dry up and blow away.
Great inside joke. In the morning!
@@mrmudcatslim1004do you hear yourself? Google is free 😂😂😂
Moved to Florida because of this
What a trip! I just found your TH-cam channel, and, started watching --- then thought 🤔 "Adam Curry?!?" and sure enough - it's the same MTV Adam Curry ... So cool!!!
Idk who Adam Curry is so I just watched cuz of the topic. Never saw this channel before!
I love Adam Curry. But even he'll agree it's gotten bad when MTV VJs are the Voice of Reason...
@@MalcolmCir Too true 🫡 !!!
Adam Curry literally invented the podcast format, his current "No Agenda" podcast is a fantastic show and well worth the listen.
Thank you for sharing your his conversation, I’m currently working for a company that is forcing us to attend d e i programs and I feel so frustrated and alone. Too many of my colleagues are starting to buy into this bs. I feel very alone.
Bari Weiss Free Press did a great piece on the Psychological Association and how they are training them. Adam, you are spot on!
🤣😂🤣 “Bari Weiss” Lol
@@kennybachman35seriously. She is one of the worst.
ALL LIVES MATTER.
The APA was infiltrated and taken over during one of their conventions a couple of decades ago. They literally bullied the rest of the organization to change the definition and nature of homosexuality in the list of psychological disorders. This was done by revolution and in no way by scientific research or data.
She was 100% pro woke until she got fired for not being woke enough. Once it affects her, then she is against it? Lol
New subscriber!! Thanks!!
Welcome!!
While you are favoring removing pharmaceutical advertisements, can we get the CIA out of the media? I am very tired of the propaganda!
Out of? They ARE the media.
My ex seeing every new drug, calling her doctor, getting it.
All you need is a tinfoil hat! You'll be fine.
@@boathousejoed1126, Dude, Obama signed a bill to allow the CIA into the media. They are indeed in the media!
@@boathousejoed1126Grown ass people unhinged in public. It’s pathetic lol. CIA in media. Why not? Unbelievable. Then again, this video is two men complaining about political correctness still. These dinosaurs will be laughed at by our descendants but for now they hold this country back. Maybe they will get bent out of shape about the next SpongeBob movie next lol
“It’s not hypocrisy, it’s hierarchy.”
James Lindsey
Woke, “Glimmering generalities.”
You say: James Lindsay "punches too hard for me".
I hear: "I'm not strong enough for his message"
...is this the message that you really intend to send? Because that's exactly how it reads. Be stronger. Push back if you have to, but hear him.
James Lindsay is a godsend, he confirmed my suspicions about what's going on with the left and I'm reassured that I made the right decision in leaving the left in 2021. I only wish I had recognized it sooner.
Definition of Woke: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men and women are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
I saw the new Barbie movie. What I noticed is that the women were on permanent vacation after the patriarchy took over Barbie land. At the end of the movie, Barbie chose the patriarchy.
Dude, is that Adam Curry from Headbangers Ball?
it is and Curry went on to literally invent the podcast format, give it Google, his current "No Agenda" podcast is a fantastic show and well worth the listen.
Change is scary, especially for old people. If you didn't pay attention in history people have always been awful so any change is at least a good try.
The change that’s happening is communism.
@@CEOofWasraelcool and good
@@theletterm1787 you won’t be saying that if you get your way🤣 communism isn’t evil. Capitalism provides us with everything you need. You’ll either face a wall or starve.
@@CEOofWasrael ? People either face the wall or starve for capitalism.
Change isn’t always good, don’t get swept away 🌊
I wonder if this is the same Adam Curry that was on MTV back in the day?
It is indeed him and he later went on to literally invent the podcast format, his current "No Agenda" podcast is a fantastic show and well worth the listen.
Rational thought just isn't going to catch on. All of our biases and instinctive misinterpretations of information require the effort to self educate.
The public isn't being encouraged to learn how to understand things. They're just being "influenced" by competing industries and political morons.
Nobody is demanding that we completely restructure the public education system to include vital instruction on how to evaluate information.
Even if that was to take place, it would be 2 or 3 generations before it would make a difference.
That WAS the plan ...
This video needs rational thought. These guys are bitching about a Barbie move. That movie wasn’t even woke haha! Barbie at the end decides to leave the matriarchy and live in the real world. And the new sex and the city was just a bad show overall. There are plenty of shows that are ultra woke that are good. Bojack horsemen, euphoria. This is just boomer ramblings haha
@@Supsboredrnyeah, these guys are honestly just morons. This was a bunch of dumb random jargon. Their explanations are judgmental and half assed. Not professional, or even informative for that matter. Just older men that talk like they’re chronically online.
Don’t you get it by now? Public schools and liberal colleges are indoctrination camps. They purposely don’t teach us to think, because a corrupt authoritarian government’s biggest enemy is an educated, free thinking populace. Public schools were started and initially funded by JD Rockefeller, to train qualified workers, because most people back then were too stupid to follow simple instructions and couldn’t even read. He said it himself, “I don’t want a nation of thinkers, I want a nation of workers.” And when our government saw how effective a tool it could be for indoctrination, they took over public schools, and ran with the idea. Why do you think rote memorization is prioritized over critical thinking? Because bosses want their workers to be able to remember how to do a job, or work a machine, but not smart enough to figure out how to start their own company and become their competition. Schools teach you to assimilate and submit to authority. Do your work, get a reward. Don’t do your work, get a punishment. Frederick T Gates of the General Education Board said “In our dream, we have endless resources, and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hand. We won’t search for great artists, painters, musicians, nor doctors, lawyers, or statesmen, of which we already have an ample supply. No, our dream is a simple and a beautiful one; to train these people as we find them, to a perfectly ideal life exactly where they already are.” They didn’t even bother to hide their intentions back then.. They basically straight up said poor people are stupid, we’re going to teach them to be happy being stupid and poor. And they certainly succeeded. Exhibit A ⬆️
Laziness…anyone can decide to think for themselves…they are choosing to let someone else dictate what they believe. They can’t admit they’ve been played.
The “studies” may not have been complete til 2019 but the “Do you want a dead daughter, or…” followed closely on the heels of “Do you want your child to go through life alone, without love?” 2007? When marriage was being redefined.
I’m 55, Adam Curry has always been a tool.
Wow, you made some really compelling arguments there. Curry went from VJ to inventing the podcast format (look it up) and his current pod (No Agenda) is top 50 in the world while you're still worshipping roided up dead wrestlers.
You have a cure for depression? I’m all ears
The show needs to have a pregnant man giving birth by C-section. Only then can it be truly woke.
😂😂
I love Adam. He’s so intelligent. Everyone should watch his talk with Glenn Beck about magic, evil and his becoming Christian. He’s so brilliant.
Only listened to this clip, love it ! Going to download the whole show and subscribe
All can think is that you are so out of touch that this doesn’t sound like regurgitation of a mama bird with as many stomachs as a cow.
They are apologetic about stuff which others have been saying for ever.
Pointing out that coming of age for a woman is a period of physical and mental discomfort that makes them feel Disphoria isn’t controversial, it wasn’t controversial when Jordan Peterson said it four years ago and it’s only gotten to be common place now.
This show is safer than the day care inside the nerf corperate office.
It’s grog… water down spirit of something which others consume on the regular as a staple, for people who have no sense of this cultures pulse at all. To the point where points that the populist movement has been making for close to a decade are considered insightful.
My suspicion is the core audience of this show is democrats who are just now realizing that the left left them a lonnggg time ago and are too milktoast to actually try listening to the opposition.
How is a show "too woke" for having a disabled character who's pregnant? Disabled women exist in real life, shocking I know. Also, the Declaration of Independence didn't give women any rights. Abigail Addams herself wrote to her husband John and told her to "remember the ladies" when the Declaration was being written, and he refused. We need to have specific rights for different groups of people codified into law because different minorities are impacted by inequality in different ways, and thus need different laws to level the playing field.
I'm hetero ... and, back in the day, my friends and I couldn't wait to develop breasts... because they are a lovely attribute of femininity, that coming of age ... Not one girl we ever came across 'didn't want breasts ...if you were under endowed, that was the attribute that upset teens.
In general there seems to be a lot of hatred of femininity in our culture now, sadly
@@AUniqueHandleName444womens rights, feminists, racist civil rights protests and the gay movement....you can thank all those for what you mention.
@@anthonyharmon9265um what
Ok Ok I subscribed. Really great content. Thought provoking; almost as thought enhancing as reading.
I’m not an expert but for what it’s worth, my understanding of “woke” and “woke-ness” is when you “wake up” to see that the place where you live doesn’t care about you. It makes sense that you want to watch movies or read books that you can relate to. It also makes sense to me that many people have specific things that they relate to but never see in books, TV, movies, etc.
It can also get more serious than that when we talk about government. If a citizen of a country like The U.S. feels that no one in power cares about their specific needs or concerns, it’s going to bring out a lot of emotions.
I do think that “woke-ness” has kind of become a parody of itself at this point because every time it comes up nowadays, it feels very surface level.
However, I personally do think that there’s value in that basic idea!
@mallen151 The woke movement is a brainwashing movement to convince everyone that their purpose is to rail against injustices for minorities. But it’s really about taking advantage of people who believe in the movement and using their outrage about injustice as well as perceived injustices, to further the government’s goal of controlling us more and more. How do people not see this? The fact that people don’t see it is terrifying. You think you have been “awakened” to now start fighting against all the evil in the world. You’re just a pawn if you’re buying anything the media or government is telling you. They are the evil who is selling the guise of the whole movement. Pay attention where US money goes, and where that money comes from in the first place. Politics isn’t about electing people who have charisma or protect our feelings. It’s about us electing officials who keep our country financially and militarily strong against threats like Russia and China who want us dead so bad that they are LOVING the smell of blood in the water with Biden as the LEADER OF THE (for now) FREE WORLD who can’t find his way off an 8 foot stage w one set of stairs in front of him, and all our citizens being dumbed down so quickly that they can’t even tell you how a bill gets passed. Or that China is coming for us. I mean, the entire planet was shut down for THREE YEARS bc of China, and people are just goin about their lives, spewing lies the media is feeding them, perfectly happy to be told what to think & do. Remember this when we become a communist country.
You're right. Absolutely, but people are taking it to a ridiculous degree on all sides.
I just can't stand that sect of people who just use "woke" as a password for 'not allowed' or 'I don't like this...its woke'.
I first saw the phrase "get woke" from a black-American church sermon somewhere in Chicago, where the preacher kept going on about white supremacy destroying the land of khemet and how the U.S. is some great destroyer, back in 2008. "Get woke, mother f&^$er."
Your understanding is laughably fucking WAAAAAAAAAAY off. The definition of "woke" is forcing super rare stupid shit into EVERYTHING and trying to pretend it's normal. Glad I could help!
I agree….stop the big pharma ads….just like they stopped ads for cigarettes and alcohol!!!
The Barbie movie is fuking hilarious. I’m a 40 y/o, straight, white, dude. I laughed more than I’ve laughed in years. The whole movie I was just thinking… “wtf”. Go into it with a buzz
Yep. Barbie is a good movie
I heard its sexist, feminist garbage. Im surprised it had White men at all in it
Adam Curry.....I remember his HAIR....mostly (and This coming from a guy who had NO BUSINESS being the first host of MTV's Headbargers Ball.)
Go fishing , really I mean go fishing .
Neither one of these dudes would ever consider baiting their own hook. And then they’d need someone to take the fish off for them.
@@kennybachman35yes that’s the measure of a man, baiting a hook…
I used to be woke. I was constantly getting triggered. I protested everything that offended me, and demanded it all be cancelled. Finally I grew out of it, and went to preschool.
What’s on the opposite end of the pendulum from woke? Forces conformity? A Holocaust of the deviations too far from the norm?
Do you not realize that that's exactly what the left is doing right now? I left the left over it, there's a difference of being accepting/tolerant and flipping society upside-down in the name of identity politics.
Being that there is ONLY right or wrong, lies or truth,evil or good, etc., looks like opposite of ‘woke’ is normal.
If it’s not your cup of tea don’t drink it. No one is asking or forcing you to confirm or identify with anything involving the LGBTQ community, you have that freedom still.👍
I think the thing you’re missing in your “everybody’s rights” is that despite the declaration people have to be reminded constantly. The subsequent constitution had to be amended because of what we thought of other humans.
And it’s coming full circle. SO WHAT? It was changed, based on MAJORITY about 4-6-8 generations ago here in America. SO WHAT! I used to be an alcoholic and drug addict. Im not drinking and drugging now, am I still an alcoholic addict?
What you seem to be missing is that anger of the past that has CHANGED is a breeding ground for negative, regressive and truly evil thinking. Don’t you know an eye for an eye leave the world blind?
@@christopherkucia1071it's moreso that past lives on today in various ways. Some people still aren't allowed to shop due to genetic code. Some people face jail sentences over code. Some people face penalties and hardships no one else does. That's not equality yet that's present reality.
@@GunmetalEar are you talking about in America? Because people aren’t being targeted by genetic code in America. Unless you mean caucasians and males in America.
@@GunmetalEar why does the past live on in today? Is it not grudge? Unhealthy and regressive still.
@@christopherkucia1071 the only answer I can give is hate. The problem is we gotta recognize that it still is a problem today. 1 federal law means jack shit in the us historically and still means jack shit
The problem with so many people that complain about wokeness is that, while they can make some legit points, they cast such a wide net that it often just devolves another bitch session.
Love me some adam curry! Great interview
Why, what about this interview do you truly feel is worth admiration. Please elaborate.
When the teacher says “they” … students say “nay”. New educational motto to start the ball rolling …. Perhaps then the teachers will grow up! 10 6
I liked Barbie, it was way more nuanced than some content creators gave it credit for. It went really woke and then realized 😢hey were treating the kens just as bad as they were complaining about the other way. I think it worked. The message was we can’t swing too far the other way but equality is important to fight for no matter the side.
Also gender dysphoria has been a proven mental disorder for nearly a century so they do, empirically, exist and we should be able to accept them for who they are as adults. A lot of people are falsely being diagnosed with this and that’s the problem.
Men can’t become women. Women can’t become men.
That's a stupid ass message. We already have equality, America is literally the most "equal" country there is. But some fucks want to be more equal than others so they push the woke agenda.
The reason there is a amplification of the rights of specific minority groups is that not all people are treated equally. I was alive when Jim Crowe laws were in place and segregation was real. As late as the 70’s banks would not approve credit cards for married women unless their husbands approved. So, unfortunately no, not all people are treated equally.
There is no pendulum. There are those that drive the direction and it will not stop without major action.
I think you're correct that the people driving this won't stop. They never have in the past. These people existed in the 90s as well. I knew some of them. They were annoying, and made the same dumb claims about racism. A GF of a friend of mine used to go off about how things like how racist Star Wars producer George Lucas was, and how racist Jar-Jar Binks was. She was in academia, where this sort of attitude was nursed and encouraged in some circles at the time. She managed to convince my friend, her boyfriend, but nobody else. We all sort of tolerated her, but she was in general that "annoying judgmental progressive type". All those attitudes you see now that are so, so annoying were all embodied in her, and people like her in the 90s.
Sometime around 2015, there was some kind of tipping point, and suddenly everyone started listening to these types of people. It was like the 50s and communism all over again, but this time it was the left wing leading the charge.
So I think the point is that these type of people and attitudes have existed for a long time. It's only recently they got magnified, and it became "cool" to listen to them, and you were a "bad guy" if you didn't.
To me, THAT"S the pendulum. Who does the mainstream world listen to and follow? Because the world is filled with thousands of different ideas, opinions, and voices. But only a few get magnified.
@stevesether they've been chipping away at it for a long time. The internet and especially social media have allowed them to accelerate the plan exponentially.
... And what does "major action" mean? What do you mean?
About “peak woke” in the Sex and the City reboot, if representing people in fiction who didn’t used to be represented is woke, then so are representations of Jews, black lead roles, Italians, Greeks, Eastern Europeans, women as business owners and CEOs, Asians, happy single women, mixed race couples, Catholics, black and Asian characters who aren’t household servants, married couples with one bed in the master br. When each of those things showed up, even once, on TV our film, it was called out as wrong by many, and, for sure, even to those -including myself- who saw them for the first time, and weren’t offended by them, they could be a bit ham-fisted. Once most petite got over it, and new generations didn’t know it was ever a thing, the any dominant-culture voices got quiet.
How about you live your life, and I’ll live mine. Period.
That’s mostly what life was like when I was growing up in the 70s and yes life was better that way
Or comma, question mark, exclamation point, semicolon, colon! Apostrophe?
Except woke isn’t interested in live and let live. They want their filth and stupidity smeared in everyone’s face and to teach children the lie of it.
People that bitch about “wokeness” do NOT like when other people live their lives how they want.
Yes, BUT, our lives cross with each others’! If a man wants to live his life as a woman, I’m fine with that. But as a woman, I don’t want him in women’s dressing room, women’s bathrooms, women’s gym changing rooms! So how does that get sorted out while you’re living your life and I am living my life? There has to be rules. And, this type of stuff mostly seems to affect women, and not men.
Disembodiment didn't begin with the internet, it began much earlier than that. Descartes had the mind-body separation, and Kant brought our consciousness to focus and retreat inwards and to frame our world as being constructed by our own consciousness. It's not hard to then derive many of our modern dilemmas (e.g. the belief that gender is constructed inwards rather than something that manifests in the external "real" world and also the fetishization of personal identity). The internet just exacerbated a change in our psyches that have been evolving for centuries. ALL of our psyches not just the people we disagree with.
This is a great interview.
Pronouns again? Nothing like two white straight guys talking about how marginalized folks should be treated.
I’m a helicopter? Tell me you’ve never talked to a trans person without telling me you never talked to a trans person.
This type of dismissive conversation doesn’t come close to masking their bigotry.
Everyone has a good and bad conscience. The internet gave everyone a place to indulge in there bad decision making and we allowed our kids to grow up in this space. What did we expect.
You sir are absolutely right, it gave people an any anonymous space where the economy is based on the same attention grabbing that slows traffic during an accident. I am delighted to see such a concise conclusion.
Now I think the horrific question is how do we put the internet back in the bottle without losing our access to the worlds information. It’s obvious that the internet is caustic and injurious to young peoples development and by extension the world but how do we keep it from young people without becoming villains or the engineers of a tyranny that will blind us all.
We allowed the internet to develop our kids' consciences, or lack thereof. We have made many mistakes: one of them is to stop being the adults who guide children. We gave children too much power too soon. The schools took over from parents, and they gave the kids power they were not ready to assume. Now those kids are manning the woke ship of state.
The Gay Marriage decision kicked off the gender dysmorphia....prove me wrong. Follow the money.
You guys just described not only education and the current "groupthink " we're living in, but also the way our government works.
"Dice, slice, and dice".
Divide and conquer.
Nobody even gives a shit anymore, and we the people just go along with it as if it's normal.
Thanks for this discussion. And by the way, thank you for your insightful podcast, Adam! You were always one of my favorite vj's back in the day, I was there from day 1, August 1st, 1981.
Before I recognized all this BS we've been fed forever, especially in recent decades .
Keep on keepin' on, man.
✌🏻❤️✨🎶
We still use BC even though we know the Jesus story was basically a myth or a lie.
I don’t see people complaining about that particular arbitration.
I'm sorry you think that- I hope you know you are loved.
It's infinitly easier to say we all have rights when you have never been part of a group whose rights have been infringed upon.
I’ve been saying that about “therapist” since like 8th grade I’m glad someone finally said that that has a good audience. I need therapy tho frfr.
Thankyou for speaking the truth my brothers
I was recently told by a African American female Uber driver that it’s ok that the kkk doesn’t like Mexicans because they are not legal and also violent people. Woke culture in this situation would identify the race as having equal rights to all other races because we are all deserving of the right to live (in most cases). The issue people are having with woke culture is that it does point out that the minority exist and should be respected and acknowledge when the majority is like no we are humans we respect eveyone, please don’t point out your problems. Both sides want to be acknowledged and respected. I don’t see the issue with calling someone by their preferred name because it does not conflict with my morality that we are all created equal.
Idk I’m not really tryna pick one side or the other here… I think identifying as a toaster or whatever might be extreme lol but ig I can kinda understand jus wanting to be “them” if someone doesn’t feel comfortable as he/she… my deal tho…when you say shit like this isn’t natural, it’s not healthy, it has to stop…kinda seems to me like you have the same mindset just on the opposite side… seems like everyone’s so convinced that they’re right and everybody else is wrong. (Goes for all sides imo)
Adam says “it makes no sense” …sure it might not make sense to you but it seems to make sense to other people… why are their thoughts/feelings/opinions not valid?
You get it dude, alot of people don't seem to have empathy nowadays.
Why can’t more people be like you?
I used to be like you. Until I started asking myself what makes people want to identify as “them”
Upon asking many different accounts I realized, most of the time it’s because they think they’re limited to whats associated with being he/she. Or that there’s something unappealing they associate with it.
@@clizbotyou say, using singular they and not making any argument against it
Why in the discussion, when the pronunciation of "therapist" was being considered, was the word "rapist" muted?
Do they seriously think their audience cannot handle hearing it? We're grown men and women. We're not that delicate.
Don't start with the censorship. We get enough of that already.
that's just TH-cam. creators have to be very careful with certain words, or they will be demonitized or have the vid taken down all together . it's silly yes. but I understand why they do it
“And then Suddenly”😂😂😂😂 made my day.
Interesting conversation. I'm a Liberal guy, I do think the iPhone and internet was key to accelerating the woke movement, which I'm not totally against all of it, but they've gone too far in some areas.
In a sense your wokeness over “wokeness” is a contribution
I stopped watching the most recent series with SJP, and agree with you. Adam Curry is correct.
3:49 “the long March through the institutions”
I agree 100% no more drug commercials
A friend of mine’s daughter was a kindergarten teacher and was fired (after a second warning) after addressing her class as “boys & girls.” The world has literally gone to HELL and we no longer live in a democracy, haven’t for a long time now
Welp, this is a Republic, not ‘democratic’ rule by the mob, so welcome home…now speak up EVERYWHERE and fight for it 👍🏻
What state and school was this. I want to look it up
@@andreabonanno4205 I don’t know the name of the school but it was in a suburb of Chicago in Illinois
unfortunate the teacher got themself fired by refusing to make a simple change to their vocabulary
@@gracenc Oh how far we have digressed as a nation since our forefathers built this once great nation we are now told what we can & cannot say as well as trying to be controlled how we should think and our freedom of speech & liberties have been slowly stripped away to nil.
The dude who reached peak poser right around the time poser became a thing? That Adam Curry? I can’t stop laughing.
The Barbie movie felt like it was making fun of wokeness but in an under the table kind of way, had me DYING
How so? The wokeness came off absolutely sincere to me.
@@TheRobotButler you went to see the barbie movie? Bro you are gay lol the problem isnt wokeness hahahaha whatre you 12 yrs old
@@TheRobotButler It's almost like "wokeness" is a half-baked, incoherent concept that no two people define quite the same.
@@riseagain845 🙄
@@TheRobotButler There's a bunch of examples. The patriarchy that Ken implements in Barbie world has the women subservient, but they are portrayed as happy. When Barbie world is returned to a Matriarchy, that prior happiness was equated to brainwashing. It suggests women can't determine for themselves what makes them happy, they can only accept a paradigm.
When Ken learns of the patriarchy, he attempts to get a job by merit of being male alone. It doesn't work. It's a patriarchy trope denied. Playing with cartoonish patriarchy tropes can be considered antiwoke.
The movie seems to mock feminism in practice when it's not overtly romanticizing it. Woke concepts are toys they play with, without delivering a coherent message. It's a movie for everyone then, maybe.
I can't say how much I loved this video. The truth!!!!!!
In generational terms, there’s group of parents who are chill, easy-going, and able to see the big picture-that new ideas are inevitable and allowing kids to have the freedom to explore new ideas is a healthy way for them to learn critical thinking skills. But of course, you have the flip side as well-the curmudgeon parents. “I don’t understand all this. I don’t see why things have to be different than the way we did them. Everything was just fine the way it was. I don’t like change. It makes me uncomfortable, and that shouldn’t be allowed. Everything should be the way I want it to be.” The irony is that when this second group were teenagers, they complained about their parents behaving exactly the same way. 😂😂😂
If you’re “too old” to adjust to even the most minor changes in your life, even just to be kind to someone else, maybe it’s time for you to go.
How dare you be a kind and rational thinker.
Denying reality isn't children exploring new ways to think. It's insanity. When us older people were kids the complaining from older generations was "your hair is to long and I don't like this Metallica band". The complaints now are "these made up genders are anti reality and no you're not a dog in human skin".
The only real bright spot is when you talk to kids under 18 there still is the fake gender kids here and there, but for the most part they see through how ridiculous and pointless it all is. The nice thing about kids is typically they're brutally honest.
@@minimatemasterworksstay away from children you gr00mer freak
Kind of a different story when your kids are being indoctrinated, encouraged to cut off body parts and change genders. But I guess we’re just being “old” and “uncool” we should just “go with the flow, it’s a learning experience,” right? I have an idea, if you want to tell kids what they should and shouldn’t do, HAVE YOUR OWN F***ING KIDS and stay away from everyone else’s.
This is 100% CORRECT! The U.S. seems to be trying what the USSR & CCP did that would never work but we don’t seem to learn….
I love adam curry and no agenda podcast.
“No agenda” lmao fuckin hilarious
@@zachflag6506 hilarious how? Like a fucking clown?
I was just talking about this was a friend. We were going back and forth saying there's only far this can go before there's not enough people to support the crazy- taxes. bureaucracy, etc.
Every single one of these people I've asked has said that they were looking at trans content on social media and felt like they "related" to how the trans person says they felt.
Social media, being influenced by peers, and adults grooming them by introducing these theoretical ideologies onto them are the biggest factors in this social contagion.
These are vulnerable young people who are being influenced into changing their identities, nobody will ever convince me otherwise because everything I've seen with my own eyes leads to the same conclusion. This is evil, thousands of lives will be destroyed over this.....
Lmao, stay crying
@@SpringyGirl69 You people always come up with the most childish responses.....I'm not crying over anything, if you wanna destroy your life that's on you.....
@@BigHomieSteveTheMetalHead I’ve never felt better lmfaoooo!
@@SpringyGirl69 sure buddy, whatever you say to maintain your delusions...I get the impression that you're very young, how old are you?
@@SpringyGirl69 child. xD if anyone’s crying it would for YOU and your well being.
You don’t realize it now but lemme tell ya that life is unforgiving and you’re gonna learn the hard way. You Will be the one being laughed at in the end.
Yes, watch “Dope Sick”. Excellent eye opening show.
You’re right. Medical businesses should only be nonprofit l
Non profits are scams too.
@@karllieck9064 well non profits are profit based.. what the op means it it should be a publicly owned company with no profit motive
It starts in the public schools. The teachers are honoring the ignorance of the children and keeping secrets from the parents instead of teaching them the things they need to navigate life.
I married a Tomboy and she gave me 3 children and 9 grandchildren and we are one big happy family. If she was convinced to change her gender none of those wonderful lives would be with us today. Think about that for half a second.
My 12 year old daughter and her friends (seemingly much of her school) are leaning hard into bombastic expressions of racism, homophobia, transphobia, and sexism because they think its shockingly hilarious. Her friend group is simultaneously diverse (across race, gender, and sexual orientation) and, at the same time, firing "cancel-worthy" verbal intolerance at both themselves and others. They think it's funny. The cycle of "I'm not whatever came before, no matter what came before," seems (anecdotally) in full effect across GenA and "wokeness" is a major target of derision.
The Barbie movie in my eyes is positive. It’s a movie about not letting trivial things like a “patriarchy” or ego get in the way of what matters, which is the relationships we have with eachother, man or woman.
Lmao. Wow. Ok
Really, you think Patriarchal position in Family is trivial? Holy crap man, I hate to see how messed up your lifestyle and family is doing.
"WOKENESS"🤔 refers to a contemporary ideology rooted in Critical Theory, race, and identity politics, often infused with elements of Marxism, which emphasizes a hierarchical view of victim-hood and collective identity. This ideology tends to prioritize group identities over individual agency, leading to an overemphasis on identity categories such as race, gender, and sexual orientation. Critics argue that "wokeness" fosters a culture of victim-hood, promotes intolerance towards differing viewpoints (commonly known as "cancel culture"), and undermines the principles of individualism and meritocracy. Furthermore, it is often associated with policies and practices that prioritize diversity over qualifications, potentially leading to reverse discrimination and the devaluation of excellence and achievement.
My sons are so sick of it . One guy on the verge of getting kicked out of his 8th grade charter because he won’t be quiet
My son is 13 and my ex is super woke. I didn’t say anything except for “when you hear these things, think about it for a few days. If it doesn’t make sense to you, then you don’t believe it.” It worked well.
@@Stevie8654same argument could be applied to you people
@@gracenc’you people’?? Racist much?
I was born in 1966 it was a very different time!!!
Everyone has a right to an opinion but in this day and age someone else’s opinion is always shoved in our faces. When it comes to pronouns and binary I just don’t understand it.
When I was growing up we could all have a good debate and agree to disagree!!!
Agree with all you are saying. What you forgot is as parents you have to grow balls and guide your children. 🥚 🥚 s
And teach our kids the harsh but necessary realities of the world.
Eating disorders did not start in 2007. Many of the women in my college dorms in the 1970s were bulimic.
the worst part about these pay to play TH-cam videos is they lack the option to block the channel from your feed.
These guys are spot on. I guess you want to block common sense.
@@chrisbeerguy1489 They could be completely right, or completely wrong, and I wouldn't care either way. It's the idea of someone paying a large sum of money to force their way into your youtube feed I'm taking issue with.
@@johnbigelson7471 Paid programming is just another form of advertising. TH-cam, like every other form of media, bases its business model on advertising revenue. Just because it’s in your feed doesn’t mean you are obligated to watch it. It’s like surfing TV channels and skipping past the infomercials. I don’t see what the big deal is.
@@chrisbeerguy1489 Absolutely it's just another form of advertising, and they paid for that space. However, I distinguish advertisements for a _product_ from advertisements for _ideas_ .
It's also no secret these pay-to-play videos are designed to closely resemble regular legitimate videos so that they can be easily mistaken, that's be design. It's not surprising why youtube does this, what is surprising is people not on their payroll defending the practice.
@@johnbigelson7471 I never defended the practice. I’m just being realistic. What do you think dark money political ads are? Even worse, paid news content designed to sway public opinion on a topic… William Randolph Hearst was a master of this practice. It’s not like selling ideas is some grave recent development in Western civilization. People have been selling ideas for millennia. This is nothing new.
I think you should take into account a perspective of the history of yellow journalism and CIA propaganda, and realize that you are fed a lot more BS by mainstream outlets that work for powerful interests, and they do not disclose their sponsors. At least these guys identify themselves as paid programming. The CIA literally pays “journalists” to make up news, you know that right? Read up on Project Mockingbird and Operation Northwoods and get a red-pill sized dose of reality dude.
Or more recently, how about Big Tech colluding with Big Government to suppress information?
It’s mendacity -if they can get you to say a girl is a boy, or a child should control the parent, then they can say anything. They can say children can identify as adults and lower the age of consent
The point he made about pronouns disrupting the relationship between child and parent is so true and important. I've always been against it for its nonsensical clash with biology, but I never thought of it from that perspective
It’s unbelievable to me that teachers don’t know the declaration of independence