She was 42 when she had her son via surrogacy. Infertility increases with a woman's age. If she's not his mother, how do you explain the amount of pictures with MJ in the years 2001-2003? Bigi was born in 2002
It’s a fair point, but another fair point is: while he was married to LMP he was entertaining Debbie’s offer to give him children. So clearly he didn’t have to be in a relationship with someone to have kids with them, nor did he have issue with someone giving him kids while he was dating someone else. She could have been a gf but still not the mother
@@89shaylynn Why would she then be in the background, of an interview Bigi did for grandma, 3 years after MJ died? There is no doubt in my mind, that it is her voice at 1:44. I've watched a lot of Idol and seen many interviews with her
@ I’m just saying based on what we have seen before, that it wouldn’t be concrete proof either way. As I said, he was married to LMP but willing to have babies with Debbie Rowe at the same time. So to me, I don’t see concrete proof that hanging out with him, no matter how much, would mean you are 100% his baby mama or gf or not his baby mama or gf. I don’t know how else to phrase it. But I’m just saying his patterns are not fluid.
@ Still doesn’t prove she is his mother. Michael left his kids to his mother, and Diana Ross if Katherine went first. Maybe he asked her to remain in the kids lives, especially Bigi’s since he was a bit younger. I didn’t say she can’t possibly be, but I’m saying it’s not definitive and Michael wanted her identity to be kept secret for a reason so as fans, we should respect it.
I don’t think Kara is Bigi’s biological mother since Kara had fertility issues and couldn’t conceive a child on her own so when she had her child she opted for a surrogate herself.
All this makes sense.... remember after the marriage to LMP he was still seeing her and she still had access to being with and around him.... NOTICE after 2001 when he had blanket, she started bashing him in interviews and talking about him. See Lisa Marie wanted that relationship to work but Mike was done, and he had moved on to someone else. He knew that it wasn't going to work out with Lisa...that marriage was doomed months after they got married because he was trying to get an annulment within three months of the marriage, and she begged him not to. So, he stayed and was trying to work things out with her, but we all know where that went. I don't think it was a sham but i just think they should have never gotten married because she wasn't for him. Lisa was rough!!!
2:53 looks so much alike ❤❤❤ even the ears my aunt and her son also look so much alike when they are young...
She was 42 when she had her son via surrogacy. Infertility increases with a woman's age.
If she's not his mother, how do you explain the amount of pictures with MJ in the years 2001-2003? Bigi was born in 2002
It’s a fair point, but another fair point is: while he was married to LMP he was entertaining Debbie’s offer to give him children. So clearly he didn’t have to be in a relationship with someone to have kids with them, nor did he have issue with someone giving him kids while he was dating someone else. She could have been a gf but still not the mother
@@89shaylynn Why would she then be in the background, of an interview Bigi did for grandma, 3 years after MJ died? There is no doubt in my mind, that it is her voice at 1:44. I've watched a lot of Idol and seen many interviews with her
@ I’m just saying based on what we have seen before, that it wouldn’t be concrete proof either way. As I said, he was married to LMP but willing to have babies with Debbie Rowe at the same time. So to me, I don’t see concrete proof that hanging out with him, no matter how much, would mean you are 100% his baby mama or gf or not his baby mama or gf. I don’t know how else to phrase it. But I’m just saying his patterns are not fluid.
@@89shaylynn She is with Bigi in 2012. Behind the scene
@ Still doesn’t prove she is his mother. Michael left his kids to his mother, and Diana Ross if Katherine went first. Maybe he asked her to remain in the kids lives, especially Bigi’s since he was a bit younger. I didn’t say she can’t possibly be, but I’m saying it’s not definitive and Michael wanted her identity to be kept secret for a reason so as fans, we should respect it.
I don’t think Kara is Bigi’s biological mother since Kara had fertility issues and couldn’t conceive a child on her own so when she had her child she opted for a surrogate herself.
but that was 10 years later
Who is Kara? and who the hell is that singing like a strangled cat?
He had a rin* on his finger in some of these shots and it was after LMP and DR
Kara is wearing a ring 1:02 and 1:17
All this makes sense.... remember after the marriage to LMP he was still seeing her and she still had access to being with and around him.... NOTICE after 2001 when he had blanket, she started bashing him in interviews and talking about him. See Lisa Marie wanted that relationship to work but Mike was done, and he had moved on to someone else. He knew that it wasn't going to work out with Lisa...that marriage was doomed months after they got married because he was trying to get an annulment within three months of the marriage, and she begged him not to. So, he stayed and was trying to work things out with her, but we all know where that went. I don't think it was a sham but i just think they should have never gotten married because she wasn't for him. Lisa was rough!!!