Now *this* is a review. I've clicked through 5 'review' videos that were close to useless before finding this gem. You're the Doug Demuro of backpacks.
Just what the doctor ordered, right Dave?! Hehehe, but for real tho, these kids who buy the packs and have never worn them and then giving reviews are a waste of space. C'mon, get with it!
AMAZING REVIEW. If only the Porter had the hip belt/straps found on the Farpoint, itd be a no brainer to get the Porter. The Farpoint 40 was updated and fixed the Water bottle mesh pockets AND the laptop sleeve is accessed from the side and slits into the back side. I still find the Porter 46 laptop sleeve more ideal even compared to the updated Farpoint. The Farpoint 40 is easier to pack and unpack and I find them more comfortable for longer treks because of its improved hip belt and strapping.
What an amazing video! You've covered probably all aspects one can think of in a backpack. Some of the details you've mentioned can be easily overlooked when purchasing, only to be recognized once I start using. Thank you so much. I love your review/comparison style.
Both great bags, but I prefer the Farpoint for the comfort factor and overall aesthetic (yes, I'm a bit shallow that way). I do wish they would move the laptop sleeve to the back of the Farpoint, though. I hate having it in front. I also do like the extra room in the Porter, but 40L is more than enough space when done properly.
Great review. Instead of selling me on a new bag you reminded me of how much I love a bag I already own.. The Osprey Porter 46. When I first purchased it I was absolutely love with it. I called it the "straight jacket" and I never over packed it, cinching it tight, it was ballistic and my laptop had never been more well-protected! But I am a 5-foot 4-inch female and at over 3 lb this bag was just too much. There were so many design pluses is however I'm thinking on my next trip I may drag it out again.. Great review, cheers!
I love that straight jacket feature, but I think they could keep a lot of the same funtionality and slim the back weight down a bit. What bag do you use now as a replacement for the Porter? Was it the Timbuk2?
@@OneBagTravels yes, the Timbuk2 Wingman for simplicity .. handles on all sides, slides in overheads but also comfortable as a backpack if you don't pack gear... for multi season my Patagonia blackhole 55 ( but definitely oversized once again) ... I ordered two 18litre* daypacks yesterday and had to smile that over the past decade I definitely have realized that smaller is often better!! Cheers! * comparing the REI ruckpack 18 and signal 20 as EDC/quick flight
I have the fairview and the porter, i'm 5.7' female and the porter is way more comfortable on my back+ i love the packing style for it. For some reason when i pack the Fairview with less stuff even with the hip belt it feels more heavy
One of the best reviews I've seen for, well, basically anything. Answered all the right questions and made all the right comparisons and then answered all of the questions I didn't know I should be asking. Thanks!
Selling my Farpoint 55, I used this pack on several trips abroad and was only called out once for being oversized and had to check my bag. This is my only reason for selling and after watching your video I think I’m going to go with the little brother (40l) thanks so much for the review!!
@@Bones575 I went with the Farpoint 40l size M/L good overall size that’s in compliance with all airlines for carry-on use. Getting ready to take it to HI next week for a 2 week trip. Good luck!
@@OneBagTravels Great bag, perfect size and compartments, the straps are not the best but doing the comparison with the farpoint. For me that i'm going to use it for travels around Europe of 4 - 6 days its a 10/10! Again, thanks for the review!
i have the farpoint and it is my absolute favourite and the most comfortable travel pack ive ever worn,i actually look forward to going away just so i can wear it.
I've wanted a porter for 10 years. I finally pulled the trigger as the porter was on sale for 91 the red was on sale for 86. :D Can't wait to move to Germany!
Thanks, I own a Porter 46 and it's honestly not my favorite osprey pack I own. was considering switching but I think that I would like the Farpoint even less. if you combined the Farpoint straps with the porter body I think I would like this bag a lot more, it's a hassle to have to assemble the straps every time you want to use it in "backpack mode" whereas the Farpoint you can just unzip quickly. I pretty much use it as a duffel. I Love the porter interior though! wish It had a waterbottle pocket but what I do is use a carabiner and secure the bottle under the Porter's "shell".
Great comparison! Btw nowadays TH-cam automatically creates chapters for your video if you add "0:00 Start" (you can use other than "Start") to the beginning of your timestamps list in the description. I don't know if you have to remove the parentheses you currently have around the times for it to work.
I dont see a lot of difference in size. It may be more worth getting the porter. I like the thicker Denier. Larger Buckles. Update: Changed my mind. The Farpoint it is! I don't carry a Laptop so its not a deal breaker for me. The Farpoint is a good size and just better designed for carry.
The two travel bags are designed (generally speaking) for different purposes. The Portal is a suitcase designed to accommodate a backpack type of transport, while the Farpoint is a backpack designed to accommodate items you'd bring on a trip. Both work equally well in their own right. I have used both and prefer the comfort of the Farpoint--Good review of both bags.
@Lagunakid24 I use the Farpoint more because it is a better option when I wear it as a backpack. The straps are more robust and holds large loads more comfortably. I have another Osprey travel bag that I am also using quite a bit; the Osprey Snowkit. Unfortunately, I think this bag has been discontinued, but it is a 46 liter that I use for general travel and works really well when I need more room than the Farpoint.
After traveling the world with my Porter I would go with the more comfortable harness. I'm no baby. 6'2 230, but when carrying a full load for a good distance, it gets uncomfortable. So my conclusion is Porter for the gym and something else for extended hobo travel.
Thanks for the review. Would you able to do a review on the Kathmandu Litehaul 38L carry on. Would like to see the comparisons between the Porter 30L or 46L with the Litehaul 38L. Great video
Kathmandu quite recently released a new 2020 version of the Litehaul 38L backpack, but unfortunately it is still only available for purchase in Australia and New Zealand websites. Someone in reddit had asked Kathmandu when it will be released in other markets as well and apparently they said there are no plans for that at the moment. I am also very interested in the bag and the new version has some improvements over the older one, like better fabric, a quick access pocket with more structure and a nicer water bottle pocket.
I have the older version of the Porter which seems much more similar to the Farpoint in this video. After watching I think I will upgrade to the newer Porter model, much better with regards to the laptop compartment and hiding of the straps.
@@jujigatame4800 lol 😆 to add to the confusion the new update to the Farpoint looks more like the Porter now. It hasn't been released in the US yet, but I'll have a look when it does.
I like these bags, have the porter 46 and almost bought the farpoint but am concerned with weight. Both bags are above 3 pounds. Think I shall continue with the now discontinued ozone 36, I bought 2 of those as they are so great. Less than 2 lbs.
Hello, from Brazil. I'm getting ready to go around the world next year. If the pandemic ends. I was looking for a backpack with a notebook support. With her video it helped me a lot. The fairview will be more suitable for comfort and be smaller in size. The notebook I can buy a cover and put in the bottom of the backpack. Thank you for your review!
Those clips are great, they're the Nite-Ize Micro Lock (amzn.to/2AQoJA8). That green one is aluminum, they also come in steel which is a little thinner for smaller zippers, but are slightly heavier.
@@OneBagTravels Actually on further research, they've change the 2021 model. It's been so streamlined, and exterior fabrics have changed, that it now looks like a true suitcase that you carry on your back. I don't like the changes. I might look for an older (2017-2020) model
Probably not but it's close. Personal item sizes vary greatly by airline, but the average size of a carry on is around 18" x 14" x 8" (45 x 35 x 20 cm). The Farpoint is a little larger than that.
I think both bags would suite me well, but my main question to all is how many pairs of shoes do you carry when traveling? They are the biggest space suckers I can't get around. I don't want to carry alot, but if I'm going to hike I don't want to wear my big LaSportiva boots all the time and packing them is a PIA. Thanks. And I don't understand why Osprey just didn't take the best of both these packs and make one great pack. They are both for travel and not off road backpacking trips. Come on...
I wear one all-purpose shoe and pack sandals in my bag. I switched to trail runners for almost every kind of hiking and backpacking. They work good for me if I'm not carrying too much weight. That's kind of the only solutions for packing shoes, bring a smaller shoe, or wear your boots everywhere. And yes, they should combine the best of both these packs 😆😆
It would be a stretch to fit these under a seat, you need a pack about 18"x14"x8". The Porter 30 might work. Almost any school sized backpack, look for something 30 liters or less.
It would be a stretch to fit these under a seat, you need a pack about 18"x14"x8". The Porter 30 might work. Almost any school sized backpack, look for something 30 liters or less.
Having just took a trip to europe with the kids we had a farpoint 40, 2 fairview 40s and a porter 46. No contest here, the porter 46 is clearly inferior. It may be better if you just want a bag that also happens to have shoulder straps and a hip belt along with. On the porter, the clips that connect the straps to the hip belt will be the primary point of failure.
Ran into this video, hoping you can still respond. Want a backpack that can fully replace a carryon. Seems like the porter 46 is an excellent solution, but not sure if there is anything newer out there. A bit hard to find it in Italy anyway, so hoping you could suggest other options.
Osprey are good packs, but I'm not sure what brands are available to you in Italy. Cabin Zero is British, they make great inexpensive packs that you may be able to get down there. Maybe also Jack Wolfskin (German), Fjallraven (Sweden). Some other good ones are Aer, Able Carry, Cotopaxi, Evergoods, Minaal, Nomatic, Peak Design, Tortuga. Think they are all American companies and not sure which ones ship internationally.
Hi I have a question on the website they say that the porter has a little different dimension and it’s larger from the fairpoint but in your video you said is basically the same, can you explain ?
Porter is larger, but the style of these bags is very similar, and because they're soft-sided you can under or overpack them and fit more (or less) gear than the listed capacity.
Just bought a Porter 46 for my travel to europe for 3 weeks! I'm torn between 30L Porter and 46L Porter, seems like 46L might be a bit too big to have as a carry on? Thoughts?
It should be fine for carry-on for the international flight, just don't overpack and check your dimensions before you leave. Local budget airlines in Europe (ie Ryanair) usually have smaller dimensions so check those before you fly if you have any. I'm curious about the update on this bag, the version I have is 22” x 14” x 11 (56 x 36 x 28 cm). You can easily pack it too full and go over the depth dimension, but if you under pack it a little the bag squishes down great and it's fine. The newer update lists the dimensions on the website as 21.5H X 14W X 9D IN (55H X 36W X 23D CM) slightly smaller in length and depth than the version I have.
I use the osprey farpoint 40 and osprey nebula combo to travel. nebula takes all my accessories and laptop etc . farpoint clothes only. no problem so far.
I have a Goruck GR1 26L which pretty much only has a big cavernous space: would the Farpoint 40L offer much more usable space inside, given its more structure/harness?
Technically the listed capacity is supposed to be the actual usable space in the pack, but it's not always accurate. 40L seems pretty accurate, it's a rather large pack.
Are they really carry on size? They both seem so big. Comparing the dimensions on the Osprey website with an airline like Ryan Air, I am convinced some dimensions are a good 10cm over! Yet the website and all forums insist it is carry on size! How can this be?
I think the idea of a "personal item" and a "carry-on" is a little misleading, because the size of bag allowed will be dependent on the airline you are flying, and sometimes even the plane. For example AeroMexico just says a personal item must "fit under the seat" but in my experience, the space you are allowed under the seat will vary depending on the type of plane, and even which seat you are in (aisle vs window). So really when someone says it works as a "carry-on," that means it worked as a carry-on for their flight. But it won't necessarily work as a carry-on for every airline. RyanAir has several bag options that have different price points depending on where you're flying. Their basic included bag is considered a "personal item" and is limited to 40 x 20 x 25 cm. The Farpoint is 55 x 35 x 23 cm, so way too big for that. To take the Farpoint on a RyaiAir flight, you would need to pay extra for their 10kg wheelie-bag option which is 55 x 40 x 20 cm. This Farpoint is still slightly over the depth dimension for this one, but I think if you underpack the bag a little ( or take bulky gear like a jacket out and wear it on the flight) then you would be ok.
Does anyone think this would be a good backpack to carry an alienware x17 on an airline plus other items. I was thinking I could fit it with lots of other items to travel but then there's probably a weight limit on carry-on backpacks. So then I may as well get something slim. Any suggestions or thoughts? Or even recommendations toward other backpacks to travel with the alienware x17???? (I think it's larger than any other 17 in)
You would probably have to put it in the main compartment in a padded sleeve. There are several brands that take a 17" laptop but I don't know if they will hold one larger, like eBags Motherlode, Evergoods, Cabin Zero, GoRuck, Tortuga. It would be best if they listed the dimensions of the laptop compartment rather than just the size, then you could just measure it.
I haven't used the Dayite packs with the Porter. There are 4 fabric loops on the outside the Porter where you attach the Dayite to. It looks fairly easy to attach, but it blocks access to the front slash pocket and main compartment. I've tried other packs where you attach a daypack to the outside and I don't like it. It seems like a good idea in theory, but if you have stuff in the daypack your bag ends up being huge and uncomfortabe. I would only use the Daylite attachment if it was empty.
@@OneBagTravels Now .... if they both had the attachment clips for carrying a day pk in front like the Farpoint 55 (bag & day pk) .... THEN .... these would be Awesome bags.
Not the 40L Farpoint. Only bags that have those little fabric loops on the back will attach to the Daylite, like the Porter 30 and 40. However the Farpoint 55 has it's own detachable daypack bulit into the bag. It's a very similar setup to Farpoint+Daylite, which ends up being around 53 liters. But you don't need to buy the packs separately. The Osprey website doesn't have pictures of it, but they do at REI.
Medium large 😆 As I do this more and slim down what I carry, I find it difficult to pack larger bags like these. After traveling with a 24L backpack, I don't even know what to put in a 45L pack to fill it up!
@@OneBagTravels I often travel long haul with 2 children under 6. I need to carry my work laptop, and 2 iPads. can you recommend me the lightest weight carry-on backpack? 40L+/-
@@TheLifelongdream There aren't many options for a lightweight 40L pack that can hold that much tech. ULA Atlas is probably the lighthest, but doens't have a great laptop compartment. Pacsafe Vibe 40 is decent. Cabin Zero makes good packs, like the Classic Pro and ADV Pro 42 could work. Ebags Motherlode Weekend Jr. could work as well.
Both backpacks have their pros & cons but I am going to order the Porter 46L from a reputable online store selling it for $55.93 for the same color you have. BTW, do you have any recommendations on the bag to protect any backpack for checking in? Thanks for the review!
That's a great deal! Osprey recently updated that pack with new fabric and some new features, I'm assuming it's the older version that's on sale. You don't need an additional bag to protect this one, just tuck the straps in and you can check it.
@@OneBagTravels I suppose the one you reviewed was the older version, right? BTW, do you think there is any value to add the shoulder strap to use with the Porter 46? Will it be too bulky for the shoulder strap to handle? The strap can only connect the bottom side of the Porter 46, I am concerned about the off center weight handling.
@@fw6500 The one in the video is the older one. They just updated it within the past month or so. I'm not a big fan of shoulder straps for bags that big, they tend to be too heavy for a shoulder strap to be much use, and it's uncomfortable to carry that way.
That's exactly right! It's flat and there is more surface area on your back, less air ventillation makes your back hotter and sweatier, and no foam padding to soak up sweat.
@@OneBagTravels too bad. If it at least had a foam padding like on their transporter iterations, it would be much better, as I find their pockets more useful than on Farpoint's.
@@ValentSF The Porter has some unfortunate design flaws. I've always said a combination of Porter/Farpoint with the good features of both packs would make an awesome bag
Now *this* is a review. I've clicked through 5 'review' videos that were close to useless before finding this gem. You're the Doug Demuro of backpacks.
Great compliment, thanks! =)
Just what the doctor ordered, right Dave?! Hehehe, but for real tho, these kids who buy the packs and have never worn them and then giving reviews are a waste of space. C'mon, get with it!
Incredible. You are basically the only reviewer anyone needs to watch on one bag travel.
Thanks, I appreciate it =)
This must be the best comparison review on the Internet, of anything that has ever been reviewed, amazing, thank you.
Wow, this may be the best comment of all comments! Thanks!
Great job man. Was looking for this comparison.
Thanks, glad you like it 👍
I bought the Porter 46, but now i want the Farpoint 40 too! haha
AMAZING REVIEW. If only the Porter had the hip belt/straps found on the Farpoint, itd be a no brainer to get the Porter.
The Farpoint 40 was updated and fixed the Water bottle mesh pockets AND the laptop sleeve is accessed from the side and slits into the back side. I still find the Porter 46 laptop sleeve more ideal even compared to the updated Farpoint. The Farpoint 40 is easier to pack and unpack and I find them more comfortable for longer treks because of its improved hip belt and strapping.
Thanks! Indeed they made some much needed improvements in the 2022 update.
What an amazing video! You've covered probably all aspects one can think of in a backpack. Some of the details you've mentioned can be easily overlooked when purchasing, only to be recognized once I start using. Thank you so much. I love your review/comparison style.
Thanks! And FYI, Osprey is coming out with an updated version of the Farpoint. It's available in some stores in Europe but hasn't hit the US yet.
The porter basically needs the farpoint’s straps/hip belt.
Yes! Farpoint straps on the Porter would be a perfect pack 👍
Seriously !
Why don't they do that?!?
This is why i haven't bought either, they would as a company get rid of one line completely and combine the two for a total better pack
OMG, yes please!
Both great bags, but I prefer the Farpoint for the comfort factor and overall aesthetic (yes, I'm a bit shallow that way). I do wish they would move the laptop sleeve to the back of the Farpoint, though. I hate having it in front. I also do like the extra room in the Porter, but 40L is more than enough space when done properly.
The Farpoint is a much more comfortable carry for sure, and 40 liters is definitely enough room =)
Great review. Instead of selling me on a new bag you reminded me of how much I love a bag I already own.. The Osprey Porter 46. When I first purchased it I was absolutely love with it. I called it the "straight jacket" and I never over packed it, cinching it tight, it was ballistic and my laptop had never been more well-protected! But I am a 5-foot 4-inch female and at over 3 lb this bag was just too much. There were so many design pluses is however I'm thinking on my next trip I may drag it out again.. Great review, cheers!
I love that straight jacket feature, but I think they could keep a lot of the same funtionality and slim the back weight down a bit. What bag do you use now as a replacement for the Porter? Was it the Timbuk2?
@@OneBagTravels yes, the Timbuk2 Wingman for simplicity .. handles on all sides, slides in overheads but also comfortable as a backpack if you don't pack gear... for multi season my Patagonia blackhole 55 ( but definitely oversized once again) ... I ordered two 18litre* daypacks yesterday and had to smile that over the past decade I definitely have realized that smaller is often better!! Cheers!
* comparing the REI ruckpack 18 and signal 20 as EDC/quick flight
I have the farpoint 40 and 55. They’re amazing! I actually LOVE the bright green interior.
How's the 55 for carry comfort compared to the 40?
I have the fairview and the porter, i'm 5.7' female and the porter is way more comfortable on my back+ i love the packing style for it. For some reason when i pack the Fairview with less stuff even with the hip belt it feels more heavy
I love the packing style of the Porter also, but which one is more comfortable is definitely going to depend on the person, thanks for the info =)
One of the best reviews I've seen for, well, basically anything. Answered all the right questions and made all the right comparisons and then answered all of the questions I didn't know I should be asking. Thanks!
Woot, thanks for the kind words =)
Selling my Farpoint 55, I used this pack on several trips abroad and was only called out once for being oversized and had to check my bag. This is my only reason for selling and after watching your video I think I’m going to go with the little brother (40l) thanks so much for the review!!
Nice, way to downsize! =)
Which one do you have? You didn't specify.
@@Bones575 I went with the Farpoint 40l size M/L good overall size that’s in compliance with all airlines for carry-on use. Getting ready to take it to HI next week for a 2 week trip. Good luck!
It was really helpful, I ordered the porter for one week travel, I hope that I make the best choice. Thanks for the video
You can't go wrong, they're both great choices! =)
@@OneBagTravels Great bag, perfect size and compartments, the straps are not the best but doing the comparison with the farpoint. For me that i'm going to use it for travels around Europe of 4 - 6 days its a 10/10!
Again, thanks for the review!
Excellent way to describe the difference...thank you
Glad you liked it!
Great review. Very very thorough. Thank you.
Thanks, glad you liked it!
i have the farpoint and it is my absolute favourite and the most comfortable travel pack ive ever worn,i actually look forward to going away just so i can wear it.
Nice, it's a great pack
Thanks for your review. I am going to order a Farpoint from Osprey. The pack is on sale for $120.
Says they're out of stock on Osprey.com, hopefully you can find it somewhere else😣 I heard a rumor they're coming out with an updated version in July.
Just got a Porter 46. Thanks!
Awesome, hope you love it!
I've wanted a porter for 10 years. I finally pulled the trigger as the porter was on sale for 91 the red was on sale for 86. :D Can't wait to move to Germany!
You're moving to Germany with just a backpack? Awesome! I hope you have a great time =)
Thanks, I own a Porter 46 and it's honestly not my favorite osprey pack I own. was considering switching but I think that I would like the Farpoint even less. if you combined the Farpoint straps with the porter body I think I would like this bag a lot more, it's a hassle to have to assemble the straps every time you want to use it in "backpack mode" whereas the Farpoint you can just unzip quickly. I pretty much use it as a duffel. I Love the porter interior though! wish It had a waterbottle pocket but what I do is use a carabiner and secure the bottle under the Porter's "shell".
Agreed, I like the Farpoint straps and the Porter packing style. A combo pack would be amazing!
Sandals or flip flops are perfect for establishing a floor on the bottom for your pack
Good tip!
thorough review! really nice! I think I'll get the Porter 46 after this video
They have an updated model which I think is even better now. Here's my review of the 30L version th-cam.com/video/aPrWOUIbebY/w-d-xo.html
Thanks!! Great, thorough comparison!
Thank you, glad you like it =)
Great job, thanks for providing measurements
Thanks Ernesto 👍
Great comparison! Btw nowadays TH-cam automatically creates chapters for your video if you add "0:00 Start" (you can use other than "Start") to the beginning of your timestamps list in the description. I don't know if you have to remove the parentheses you currently have around the times for it to work.
Woah, I had no idea you could do that! Just updated my timestamps and it worked! Awesome tip, thank you 😀
I love your reviews! I am going to get a Porter 46 after watching this.
Awesome and thanks!
Commenting for the algorithm. Best of luck in your channel.
The algorithm thanks you 😉
Very well done!
Thanks Pilgrim!
Going to Munich for a couple of weeks the 40 is a perfect size and solid carry on
40 is a great size, enjoy your trip!
@@OneBagTravels ty very much
Excellent detailed review video, it's now clear to me which one I need. Thank you.
Great comparison, thanks 👍
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I dont see a lot of difference in size.
It may be more worth getting the porter.
I like the thicker Denier. Larger Buckles.
Update: Changed my mind. The Farpoint it is!
I don't carry a Laptop so its not a deal breaker for me.
The Farpoint is a good size and just better designed for carry.
DETAILED WELL RESEARCHED REVIEW......! THANKS A LOT.......!
THANKS FOR WATCHING =)
I would LOVE some pockets on the hipbelts on the Farpoint 40. That would be so nice!
Hip belt pockets are the best =)
Thanks for this detailed comparison!
Glad it was helpful!
The two travel bags are designed (generally speaking) for different purposes. The Portal is a suitcase designed to accommodate a backpack type of transport, while the Farpoint is a backpack designed to accommodate items you'd bring on a trip. Both work equally well in their own right. I have used both and prefer the comfort of the Farpoint--Good review of both bags.
Good summary, one is primarily a backpack, the other a duffel. Thanks!
@Lagunakid24 I use the Farpoint more because it is a better option when I wear it as a backpack. The straps are more robust and holds large loads more comfortably. I have another Osprey travel bag that I am also using quite a bit; the Osprey Snowkit. Unfortunately, I think this bag has been discontinued, but it is a 46 liter that I use for general travel and works really well when I need more room than the Farpoint.
After traveling the world with my Porter I would go with the more comfortable harness. I'm no baby. 6'2 230, but when carrying a full load for a good distance, it gets uncomfortable. So my conclusion is Porter for the gym and something else for extended hobo travel.
Thanks for the review. Would you able to do a review on the Kathmandu Litehaul 38L carry on. Would like to see the comparisons between the Porter 30L or 46L with the Litehaul 38L. Great video
Thanks for the suggestion, the Litehaul is on my list of bags to review, but it might take awhile to get around to it =)
Kathmandu quite recently released a new 2020 version of the Litehaul 38L backpack, but unfortunately it is still only available for purchase in Australia and New Zealand websites. Someone in reddit had asked Kathmandu when it will be released in other markets as well and apparently they said there are no plans for that at the moment.
I am also very interested in the bag and the new version has some improvements over the older one, like better fabric, a quick access pocket with more structure and a nicer water bottle pocket.
I have the older version of the Porter which seems much more similar to the Farpoint in this video. After watching I think I will upgrade to the newer Porter model, much better with regards to the laptop compartment and hiding of the straps.
Oh damn actually, after watching other videos I think I have the Fairpoint! My whole life has been a lie!!!
@@jujigatame4800 lol 😆 to add to the confusion the new update to the Farpoint looks more like the Porter now. It hasn't been released in the US yet, but I'll have a look when it does.
Great comparison 😊
Thanks! 🙂
Just what I needed! Thanks
Happy to help!
I like these bags, have the porter 46 and almost bought the farpoint but am concerned with weight. Both bags are above 3 pounds. Think I shall continue with the now discontinued ozone 36, I bought 2 of those as they are so great. Less than 2 lbs.
That looks like a nice little pack, basically a wheeled version of the Farpoint
@@OneBagTravels they added wheels to the Ozone later than discontinued it. Very sad. glad I bought 2 of them
@@cenaculum1 Dang, I haven't seen the unwheeled version. Good call buying 2!
This is an amazing breakdown! As someone who's looking into buying a nice travel backpack, this is trully amazing!
Woot, thanks! Glad you liked it =)
Hello, from Brazil.
I'm getting ready to go around the world next year. If the pandemic ends. I was looking for a backpack with a notebook support. With her video it helped me a lot. The fairview will be more suitable for comfort and be smaller in size. The notebook I can buy a cover and put in the bottom of the backpack. Thank you for your review!
You're welcome, good luck!
Great review!
Thanks!
I love those colors.
Me too! 😁
Awesome informative video - FAIRPOINT 40 for me...
Appreciate the honest review. Very detailed and informative. In your experience which one of these backpacks (if any) would fit a 17.3 inch laptop?
They both only hold up to a 15.6" laptop
@@OneBagTravels cheers for the reply! Loved both of the backpacks but I am looking for one capable of carrying my 17.3 behemoth laptop.
Wow ! now this is a review !!
would you suggest the Porter as workbag for a person with medical needs?
Thanks! I guess it depends on what needs, but I don't see why not. It's a big pack with an easy to access large main compartment.
Great review! BTW, where did you get those zipper clip thing 5:00? Do you have the links by any chance? Thanks! 😊
Those clips are great, they're the Nite-Ize Micro Lock (amzn.to/2AQoJA8). That green one is aluminum, they also come in steel which is a little thinner for smaller zippers, but are slightly heavier.
Would you recommend the 30L sojourn porter or the 40L farview for a carry on?
Porter 30 because it's smaller, if you can't pack that small or it you want a more comfortable pack then Fairview
Had me sold on the porter... until starting to mention the comfort of the straps and shoulder attachments. Now I'm confused :S :S lol
I know right! If Osprey combined the organization of the Porter with the backpack straps of the Farpoint, they would have a perfect pack!
@@OneBagTravels Actually on further research, they've change the 2021 model. It's
been so streamlined, and exterior fabrics have changed, that it now looks like a true suitcase that you carry on your back. I don't like the changes. I might look for an older (2017-2020) model
@@Lightworker444 Yeah, I have mixed feelings about the updated fabrics 🤷♂️
Hey how about an update video, now that the updated Farpoint Version is available?
Good suggestion, I did an update to the new Farpoint and compared the 40 to the 55L, but I haven't compared it to the new Porter yet.
Does the Farpoint 40 qualify /work as a personal item on an airplane to put under a seat?
Probably not but it's close. Personal item sizes vary greatly by airline, but the average size of a carry on is around 18" x 14" x 8" (45 x 35 x 20 cm). The Farpoint is a little larger than that.
Thank you for that. After a little more searching, looks like the Porter 30
would be the perfect fit.
Best.review.ever.
What is your torso length that you got the Farpoint S/M and not the M/L?
My torso length is17.5". I'm right in between S/M and M/L, but the S/M fits me better.
I think both bags would suite me well, but my main question to all is how many pairs of shoes do you carry when traveling? They are the biggest space suckers I can't get around. I don't want to carry alot, but if I'm going to hike I don't want to wear my big LaSportiva boots all the time and packing them is a PIA. Thanks.
And I don't understand why Osprey just didn't take the best of both these packs and make one great pack. They are both for travel and not off road backpacking trips. Come on...
I wear one all-purpose shoe and pack sandals in my bag. I switched to trail runners for almost every kind of hiking and backpacking. They work good for me if I'm not carrying too much weight. That's kind of the only solutions for packing shoes, bring a smaller shoe, or wear your boots everywhere.
And yes, they should combine the best of both these packs 😆😆
Do either of these bags fit under airplane seats? Assuming they weren't packed too much? Or any recommendations for one that does? Ty for your time
It would be a stretch to fit these under a seat, you need a pack about 18"x14"x8". The Porter 30 might work. Almost any school sized backpack, look for something 30 liters or less.
It would be a stretch to fit these under a seat, you need a pack about 18"x14"x8". The Porter 30 might work. Almost any school sized backpack, look for something 30 liters or less.
I took the Farpoint to Europe in 2019 and fit it under the seat each time. No problems on any of my flights.
@@keno1069 thank you Ken!
Porter 30 fits under the seat. I don't know about the bigger backpacks
Having just took a trip to europe with the kids we had a farpoint 40, 2 fairview 40s and a porter 46. No contest here, the porter 46 is clearly inferior. It may be better if you just want a bag that also happens to have shoulder straps and a hip belt along with. On the porter, the clips that connect the straps to the hip belt will be the primary point of failure.
If Osprey put the carry system of the Farpoint on the Porter it would be a much better bag
The Porter is a superior pack
We'll see after they release the new farpoint update in July 😉
Ran into this video, hoping you can still respond. Want a backpack that can fully replace a carryon. Seems like the porter 46 is an excellent solution, but not sure if there is anything newer out there. A bit hard to find it in Italy anyway, so hoping you could suggest other options.
Osprey are good packs, but I'm not sure what brands are available to you in Italy. Cabin Zero is British, they make great inexpensive packs that you may be able to get down there. Maybe also Jack Wolfskin (German), Fjallraven (Sweden). Some other good ones are Aer, Able Carry, Cotopaxi, Evergoods, Minaal, Nomatic, Peak Design, Tortuga. Think they are all American companies and not sure which ones ship internationally.
Hi I have a question on the website they say that the porter has a little different dimension and it’s larger from the fairpoint but in your video you said is basically the same, can you explain ?
Porter is larger, but the style of these bags is very similar, and because they're soft-sided you can under or overpack them and fit more (or less) gear than the listed capacity.
Just bought a Porter 46 for my travel to europe for 3 weeks!
I'm torn between 30L Porter and 46L Porter, seems like 46L might be a bit too big to have as a carry on?
Thoughts?
It should be fine for carry-on for the international flight, just don't overpack and check your dimensions before you leave. Local budget airlines in Europe (ie Ryanair) usually have smaller dimensions so check those before you fly if you have any. I'm curious about the update on this bag, the version I have is 22” x 14” x 11 (56 x 36 x 28 cm). You can easily pack it too full and go over the depth dimension, but if you under pack it a little the bag squishes down great and it's fine. The newer update lists the dimensions on the website as 21.5H X 14W X 9D IN (55H X 36W X 23D CM) slightly smaller in length and depth than the version I have.
30l porter is much better for budget airlines like easyjet.
Im a short guy and i will look like a ninja turtle with the Farpoint 40 or Porter 46 .
So its the Porter 30 for me
Ninja turtle 🤣
Is the Farpoint in Rivet red? Cheers!!
It's called Jasper Red =)
I use the osprey farpoint 40 and osprey nebula combo to travel. nebula takes all my accessories and laptop etc . farpoint clothes only. no problem so far.
Good combo
You sold me on the far point
It's a good one
I have a Goruck GR1 26L which pretty much only has a big cavernous space: would the Farpoint 40L offer much more usable space inside, given its more structure/harness?
Technically the listed capacity is supposed to be the actual usable space in the pack, but it's not always accurate. 40L seems pretty accurate, it's a rather large pack.
Are they really carry on size? They both seem so big. Comparing the dimensions on the Osprey website with an airline like Ryan Air, I am convinced some dimensions are a good 10cm over! Yet the website and all forums insist it is carry on size! How can this be?
I think the idea of a "personal item" and a "carry-on" is a little misleading, because the size of bag allowed will be dependent on the airline you are flying, and sometimes even the plane. For example AeroMexico just says a personal item must "fit under the seat" but in my experience, the space you are allowed under the seat will vary depending on the type of plane, and even which seat you are in (aisle vs window). So really when someone says it works as a "carry-on," that means it worked as a carry-on for their flight. But it won't necessarily work as a carry-on for every airline.
RyanAir has several bag options that have different price points depending on where you're flying. Their basic included bag is considered a "personal item" and is limited to 40 x 20 x 25 cm. The Farpoint is 55 x 35 x 23 cm, so way too big for that. To take the Farpoint on a RyaiAir flight, you would need to pay extra for their 10kg wheelie-bag option which is 55 x 40 x 20 cm. This Farpoint is still slightly over the depth dimension for this one, but I think if you underpack the bag a little ( or take bulky gear like a jacket out and wear it on the flight) then you would be ok.
@@OneBagTravels This was such a fantastic answer, thank you so much for taking the time to reply! Brilliant.
Please do a review on osprey 40l vs goruck gr2 34l
Sounds interesting! I'd be curious to see what you'd get for spending 3x the price of the Farpoint.
@@OneBagTravels thank you so much sir!
Does anyone think this would be a good backpack to carry an alienware x17 on an airline plus other items. I was thinking I could fit it with lots of other items to travel but then there's probably a weight limit on carry-on backpacks. So then I may as well get something slim. Any suggestions or thoughts? Or even recommendations toward other backpacks to travel with the alienware x17???? (I think it's larger than any other 17 in)
You would probably have to put it in the main compartment in a padded sleeve. There are several brands that take a 17" laptop but I don't know if they will hold one larger, like eBags Motherlode, Evergoods, Cabin Zero, GoRuck, Tortuga. It would be best if they listed the dimensions of the laptop compartment rather than just the size, then you could just measure it.
Do you have any experience attaching any of the "daylite" backs to either of these packs and know how/if they work?
I haven't used the Dayite packs with the Porter. There are 4 fabric loops on the outside the Porter where you attach the Dayite to. It looks fairly easy to attach, but it blocks access to the front slash pocket and main compartment.
I've tried other packs where you attach a daypack to the outside and I don't like it. It seems like a good idea in theory, but if you have stuff in the daypack your bag ends up being huge and uncomfortabe. I would only use the Daylite attachment if it was empty.
@@OneBagTravels Now .... if they both had the attachment clips for carrying a day pk in front like the Farpoint 55 (bag & day pk) .... THEN .... these would be Awesome bags.
How tall are you? For reference for myself to by the bag.
I'm 5'10"
Is the farpoint 40 compatible with the daylite packs attachment?
Not the 40L Farpoint. Only bags that have those little fabric loops on the back will attach to the Daylite, like the Porter 30 and 40. However the Farpoint 55 has it's own detachable daypack bulit into the bag. It's a very similar setup to Farpoint+Daylite, which ends up being around 53 liters. But you don't need to buy the packs separately. The Osprey website doesn't have pictures of it, but they do at REI.
The Porter doesn't have water bottle place.
how tall are you for comparison sake?
Just shy of 5' 11"
Gosh they both look MASSIVE 😅
Medium large 😆 As I do this more and slim down what I carry, I find it difficult to pack larger bags like these. After traveling with a 24L backpack, I don't even know what to put in a 45L pack to fill it up!
@@OneBagTravels I often travel long haul with 2 children under 6. I need to carry my work laptop, and 2 iPads. can you recommend me the lightest weight carry-on backpack? 40L+/-
@@TheLifelongdream There aren't many options for a lightweight 40L pack that can hold that much tech. ULA Atlas is probably the lighthest, but doens't have a great laptop compartment. Pacsafe Vibe 40 is decent. Cabin Zero makes good packs, like the Classic Pro and ADV Pro 42 could work. Ebags Motherlode Weekend Jr. could work as well.
Yet to see a bag that fits Ryanair bag policy
Ryan Air policy is very small, basically a school backpack. Cabin Zero Classis 28 is pretty close, it's only 4 cm over on the width.
Ryan Air policy is very small, basically a school backpack. Cabin Zero Classis 28 is pretty close, it's only 4 cm over on the width.
Both backpacks have their pros & cons but I am going to order the Porter 46L from a reputable online store selling it for $55.93 for the same color you have.
BTW, do you have any recommendations on the bag to protect any backpack for checking in?
Thanks for the review!
That's a great deal! Osprey recently updated that pack with new fabric and some new features, I'm assuming it's the older version that's on sale.
You don't need an additional bag to protect this one, just tuck the straps in and you can check it.
@@OneBagTravels I suppose the one you reviewed was the older version, right?
BTW, do you think there is any value to add the shoulder strap to use with the Porter 46? Will it be too bulky for the shoulder strap to handle? The strap can only connect the bottom side of the Porter 46, I am concerned about the off center weight handling.
@@fw6500 The one in the video is the older one. They just updated it within the past month or so.
I'm not a big fan of shoulder straps for bags that big, they tend to be too heavy for a shoulder strap to be much use, and it's uncomfortable to carry that way.
@@OneBagTravels Thanks for the advice! :)
Can I ask what site that is please? Really looking to make a decision before midnight tonight and would really appreciate the help. Thanks
Does this mean wearing Porter would make your back easier to be sweaty than Farpoint?
That's exactly right! It's flat and there is more surface area on your back, less air ventillation makes your back hotter and sweatier, and no foam padding to soak up sweat.
@@OneBagTravels too bad. If it at least had a foam padding like on their transporter iterations, it would be much better, as I find their pockets more useful than on Farpoint's.
@@ValentSF The Porter has some unfortunate design flaws. I've always said a combination of Porter/Farpoint with the good features of both packs would make an awesome bag
Hi!! What’s better for me. I’m woman 5’3”. Help me to decide please 🥲😅
Porter soujoor or fairview both 40?
Fairview! It has an adjustable harness that is more likely to give you a good fit.
😯Very helpful!! Thank you so much!! ☺️ 🙏🏼