The Secret of Weekday Sequence | Nilesh Oak |
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มิ.ย. 2024
- The sequence of weekdays - Saturday through Friday - appears to be either peculiar or completely random. It is then interesting that the same sequence is in vogue around the world. This is one of the rare factors unifying our world cultures and societies. When and where did this tradition begin? Academia or mainstream knowledge sources about in speculation but provide no evidence. Join us to know the origin, antiquity and scientific basis of this peculiar weekday sequence.
About the Author
Nilesh Nilkanth Oak, is the author of When did the Mahabharata War Happen? The Mystery of Arundhati, where he freshly evaluated astronomy observations of Mahabharata text. His work led to validation of 5561 BCE as the year of Mahabharata War while falsifying more than 120 alternate claims. The book was nominated for the Lakatos award; the award is given annually by London School of Economics for a contribution to the philosophy of science. In this second book- The Historic Rama, he decisively falsifies timelines proposed by Dr. P V Vartak (7300 BCE), Shri Pushkar Bhatnagar (5200 BCE), SRS ( 10000 BCE) and M R Yardi ( 1500 BCE) Nilesh researches in astronomy, archeology, anthropology, quantum mechanics, economics, ancient narratives and philosophy.
Topics Covered:
0:00 acknowledgements
3:20 Vedic weekday names
6:35 Western backstory - English weekdays
11:30 conditions required for origin of weekday sequence
17:33 Narratives without evidence
18:44 Necessary conditions fulfilled in Vedic system: Sophisticated astronomy, astronomical dates in Indian texts, stable sunrise, tradition of assigning deities, coherent logic, 24 part day,
26:12 Bharatiya vs Greek planetary models
39:57 division of day in 24 parts
45:35 guru pushya yog
50:43 Books authored by speakers
55:56 scriptural reference
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Swag of nilesh ji in this session is fantastic. Tight slap on the face of western liberal hypocrites!
Agast (Agastya) = August - I used to wonder about this 25 years ago - why do English names have so much commonality with Indian calendar and weekdays. A visit to Konark Temple and the conversations with guides there 15 years ago started giving me conviction that India was the basis for the 7 days of the week and also had a connection with the months.
what kind of connection you could find between month and weekdays?
Sir , as an Bhartiya i am Greatful to you to being all this to light...i think this is kaliyug that is why all excellwnce of sanatan is suppreesed by hollow west
No words just amazed with the genius of our ancestors, our rishi's and our muni's. Very practical and just outstanding.
Mayasura is the peron who got the suryasiddanta from surya and the location is Lanka. Mayasura is from Lanka. The narration, the choice of the character is very important in ancien Indian texts. Great explaination. Great job
Please do a research on Gotra and genetic reference of our Vedic tradition and preparation of kundali or kosthi
We are lucky to have you, The modern pioneer of Vedic knowledge and our history.
Nileshji 🙏 . You are surely a great son of India . Simply Marvellous Discourse . Ancient Vedic wisdom is unfathomable .Your contribution difficult to appreciate in words .
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Thank you so much Nilesh ji for such an incredible rich focussed and clear talk..
Awesome each time I listen to your talk a new door in the mind opens up
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Great presentation.
There is one interesting fact about sequence of days. Although solar Calender's, months and years have been modified frequently by many kings in India and West, but the days sequence as originated in India has not changed.
Nilesh ji has given examples of Guru-Pushya days.
I am learning krishnamurthy system of astrology. (KP). KP follows nakshtra and sub-nakshtras in astrology analysis.
In KP we also study the ruling planets of any chart. In the ruling planets first planet is considered to be day-lord.
I have seen that for big government leaders or high officials important day is Sunday and important nakshtra is Krittika. For very big leaders sublord of 10th house is Sun or any linked planets. Many leaders with large influence are borne on Sunday or with sublord at 10th being Sun.
Like Narendra Modi borne on 17th September 50 was Sunday. Imran Khan on 5th October 1952 on Sunday. Putin 7th October 52, although borne on Tuesday but his birth star is Krittika and Mars is in the sub of Sun.
A high government officer borne on 3rd September 1950 was on Sunday on Krittika nakshtra.
For KP chart first thing we see when person borne. Based on the day of birth we can make some judgement about the person. Study of chart gives full picture.
Therefore, always there is good link of days and nakshtra of the day. This clearly shows the sequence of days as originated in India , remains the same as on now.
Great discourse Nilesh ji. You are attracting and inspiring the young generation to this सनातन ज्ञान नित्य नूतन ज्ञान!
धन्यवाद नीलेश जी /\
Nilesh ji - your talks are immensely helpful and thanks for breaking it in simple Hindi and/or "plain English" for us beginners. I am slowly reading through your book and also simultaneously reading Mahabharata on the side. Best wishes and thanks for sharing pictures of some great scholars and your family.
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@@NileshOak Hi Sir,
1.Came across this work (Indus script dictionary) by Ms. Suzanne Redalia that seems to perfectly corroborate the Continuing Hindu civilization Theory and moreover, looks very rational. All major root-words are Sanskrit and in a stroke dismisses the " IVC people were Dravidians driven out by IE Aryans" story.
Please could you look into it (if not done as yet by any remote chance) ? Somehow, there does not seem to be much enthusiasm on this work even as the Indian express etc. continues to publish Tony Josph-level Aryan-Dravidian BS as conclusive!
2. Have seen many of your videos on dating Ramayana and MB but very little material on the Vedas seem available. Pls. could you present one on the same? It will be a gem in itself and an international hit!
@@SJ-zo3lz Thank you.
poor audio quality, but here you go.
th-cam.com/video/A8iYCld5CcY/w-d-xo.html
@@NileshOak Many thanks sir; It's honestly a bit strenuous to follow. Captions too are not available. Please could you consider making a presentation along the lines of the Itihasa ones ?
Pranaam Nileshji, this is one of the best presentation with respect to the slides. The sharp sentences in between and the references to the Macaulay Putras of India and west was apt.. Naman..
Ahha, Sumerians are migration of Mahabharat era Indians to the WEST 👌🌷-
Are the YAMNAYA tribes also same people ?because it's approximately around same time mentioned about their appearance in the West, where it's said these YAMNAYA came without their women folks & created new generation with local ladies( this point is not part of this lecture topic- it's just for reference) of West!!
Very good details thanks neleshji
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Doing great job for saving our culture
Oh I was waiting for this information for so so long!!
I always wondered why the order
Somvar, Mangal.... Ravivar
If we sort with the avg distance from the earth there is an exception for Venus Shukr.
Moon Som(closest), Mars mangal, next should hv been Venus Shukr, Mercury Budh , Jupiter Brihspati, Saturn Shani, and Sun Ravi.
There is a video on similar subject
'Its ok to be smart' youtube channel.
based on the major celetial bodies visible from earth, and then some mumbo jumbo if how this got jumbled, but is bit convincing. Also in the video its indicated that 7 day week and the sequence travelled from perhaps Mesopotamia to Europe , to India etc.
After the Sugriva's Atlas I became a fan of Shri Oak. I wonder what is written in our scriptures. Waiting eagerly for Shri Nilesh Oak to unravel the mystery.
Very conveniently he avoided the naming of Tithis after Saptami to forcefully bring it to seven days. After Saptami thi thi Lunar days, he just mentioned that the Lord of the other tithis are repeated. But did not mentioned what are their names.
He is fixing the date of Greek astronomers to a particular relay such as 230 BCE, 56 CE etc etc. But when it comes the Indian, he is giving an qualitative statement such as much much older that Greek etc etc.
There is no mention of seven days week system in any of our epic or ancient writings. All the recorded incidents of Ancient India mentioned about Teethis only.
If Neelesh makes this type of sessions, people will loose trust on earlier sessions.
The seven days system only mentioned in Sumerian writings, not in ancient Greek or ancient Chinese or ancient Indian writings.
Give reference some part of ancient text fro Greek or Indian or Chinese where any incident was written referring to name of day in Weekly system?
You should get Nobel Prize!!!!!
I think so, too. 🙏🙏 The selection team may struggle with the discipline in which to award me the prize. Physics might be the closest.
Than you Sangam from Chicago USA
54:01 Soma-din is Monday, Soumya-din is Wednesday. Below are the alternate names; I dont have a reference but you can find these in many S.Indian "panchanga" books
Aditya-Bhanu, Soma-Indu, Mangala-Bahumya, Budha-Soumya, Brihaspaty-Guru, Shukra-Bhargava, Shani-Manda
Thankyou for your hardwork sir 🙏
Very conveniently he avoided the naming of Tithis after Saptami to forcefully bring it to seven days. After Saptami thi thi Lunar days, he just mentioned that the Lord of the other tithis are repeated. But did not mentioned what are their names.
He is fixing the date of Greek astronomers to a particular relay such as 230 BCE, 56 CE etc etc. But when it comes the Indian, he is giving an qualitative statement such as much much older that Greek etc etc.
There is no mention of seven days week system in any of our epic or ancient writings. All the recorded incidents of Ancient India mentioned about Teethis only.
If Neelesh makes this type of sessions, people will loose trust on earlier sessions.
The seven days system only mentioned in Sumerian writings, not in ancient Greek or ancient Chinese or ancient Indian writings.
Give reference some part of ancient text fro Greek or Indian or Chinese where any incident was written referring to name of day in Weekly system?
Thank you for opening our eyes.
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Thanks for the talk. This does make more sense about the Sequence of week. 🙏🙏
Very conveniently he avoided the naming of Tithis after Saptami to forcefully bring it to seven days. After Saptami thi thi Lunar days, he just mentioned that the Lord of the other tithis are repeated. But did not mentioned what are their names.
He is fixing the date of Greek astronomers to a particular relay such as 230 BCE, 56 CE etc etc. But when it comes the Indian, he is giving an qualitative statement such as much much older that Greek etc etc.
There is no mention of seven days week system in any of our epic or ancient writings. All the recorded incidents of Ancient India mentioned about Teethis only.
If Neelesh makes this type of sessions, people will loose trust on earlier sessions.
The seven days system only mentioned in Sumerian writings, not in ancient Greek or ancient Chinese or ancient Indian writings.
Give reference some part of ancient text fro Greek or Indian or Chinese where any incident was written referring to name of day in Weekly system?
@@pavitraranjanswain4010 please PROVIDE WHAT BOOKS - AUTHORS - LITERATURE you are DERIVING this point from ??
Because my grand parents used to say these things but they did not know GREEK languages where they were DEEPLY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT VEDIC ASTROLOGY SYSTEM & AYURVEDIC MEDS AS WELL , They will chant the appropriate sholka for that particular tithi while even TAKING AYURVEDIC meds !!
@@pavitraranjanswain4010 for your last question : Nileshji said GO LOOK FOR URSELF IN EACH POSSIBLE LANGUAGE OR CULTURE
Very enlightening! 🙏🙏
Fantastic
Awesome
Class. Too good 👌
Fascinating as always 🙏🏻
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Mangal is also Angarak - if you use Angarak, many eastern weekday of Tuesday matches up very well.
Ramram
Dhanyavaad Rishi Nilesh Ork
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Amazing knowledge thanks sir
wow
Regarding the question on why sowmyavaasara refers to Wednesday in our tradition (during sankalpa in routine puja,Homa etc), 'sowmya' means son of soma and hence it's perfectly okay to say sowyavaara for Wednesday. Budha is regarded as son of chandra in Tara (who was wife of brihaspati).
I am not aware of the context in which Kalidasa mentioned sowmyavaara for Wednesday.
Thank you Nilesh Ji🙏
So grateful to you for explaining, the r research and summaries. 🙏
35:00 This method works fine because 7 doesn't divides 24. Otherwise each time you would get the same God everytime which would be a problem.
Very informative talk Mr. Nilesh. Every talk of yours is very fascinating and revelatory. Thank you for sharing. I have one question. How far back do you see reference to Vasara in our Vedic rituals ? Today we use it in sankalpa mantra, but when did this practice start ? DO you know ?
I have been intrigued by why and how the names of Indian and western weekdays are the same and synchronous.
I asked this question about 13-14 years back to an expert on NPR but my question didn't come up due to lack of time.
I'm totally sold ….. but now i need to know who is Nilesh Oak reincarnated from ????
Very conveniently he avoided the naming of Tithis after Saptami to forcefully bring it to seven days. After Saptami thi thi Lunar days, he just mentioned that the Lord of the other tithis are repeated. But did not mentioned what are their names.
He is fixing the date of Greek astronomers to a particular relay such as 230 BCE, 56 CE etc etc. But when it comes the Indian, he is giving an qualitative statement such as much much older that Greek etc etc.
There is no mention of seven days week system in any of our epic or ancient writings. All the recorded incidents of Ancient India mentioned about Teethis only.
If Neelesh makes this type of sessions, people will loose trust on earlier sessions.
The seven days system only mentioned in Sumerian writings, not in ancient Greek or ancient Chinese or ancient Indian writings.
Give reference some part of ancient text fro Greek or Indian or Chinese where any incident was written referring to name of day in Weekly system?
Don't sell yourself short. Please! Science padho beta, these are pseudo-scientists, INKO science ka kuch naheen pata, Yeh saala (I am sorry to use that lang.) upna kitaab bectha hai unpadh aadmi ko aur upna bank balance badhaata hai. Humko bahut duckh hai humre bacche inke changul mein phanse hai.
Nilesh Oak is basically an Chemical Engineer. Chemical Engineers teach Chemistry to Engineers and Engineering to Chemists and Politics to both.
In this video he just used some Sanskrit Jargon to justify the seven day weekly system of our present calendar.
The seven day system is mentioned in only ancient Sumerian texts. There no mention of weekly systen in any of the ancient text of Greeks, Indian or Chinese.
In Mahabharata or Ramayana there are references of Tithis of lunar cycle, but not any seven day weekly system.
@@ahmedhusseinny i happen to attend the same school system Nilesh attended in Canada ....and i know he is schooled in a well rounded education system .... logic 101 is one of the courses required ....so i think your comment is perhaps biased
@@rdrr5973 SO, logically speaking you are as dumb as he is? What are you talking about? Watch his video and then maybe we have a conversation.
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Though the person has very wide knowledge but he could not clearly says why the sequence of weekdays that is, Monday follows Sunday and Wednesday follows Tuesday and so on , and choghadia also do not follow in night as per apparent speed of planets rule.
Vandematram
Our wise ancestors hoped their successors will be intelligent.
You probably explained it and I probably missed it but, why are there 24 hours, or what determines the length of the hour to give us 24 hours in a day?
Could you please elaborate on how the sequence of celestial bodies (slow to fast) is/was determined? (As we see in 34:30, left column). E.g. how is the Sun faster than Mars and slower than Venus?
I hit 200 (double century)😎🙏😎🚩🚩🚩🕉️
Can you please also explain why 7 grahas (which includes Chandra) are considered and not 9..
Nilesh sir how old is aaryabhatiya, what is the actual dating and update dating of aaryabhatiya?
Very conveniently he avoided the naming of Tithis after Saptami to forcefully bring it to seven days. After Saptami thi thi Lunar days, he just mentioned that the Lord of the other tithis are repeated. But did not mentioned what are their names.
He is fixing the date of Greek astronomers to a particular relay such as 230 BCE, 56 CE etc etc. But when it comes the Indian, he is giving an qualitative statement such as much much older that Greek etc etc.
There is no mention of seven days week system in any of our epic or ancient writings. All the recorded incidents of Ancient India mentioned about Teethis only.
If Neelesh makes this type of sessions, people will loose trust on earlier sessions.
The seven days system only mentioned in Sumerian writings, not in ancient Greek or ancient Chinese or ancient Indian writings.
Give reference some part of ancient text fro Greek or Indian or Chinese where any incident was written referring to name of day in Weekly system?
Beta Harsh Patil, Newton/Einstein/Plank ko padho. Dirac ko padho. BETA PADHO.
35:30 Damn Man!!!!!!
How did they know the speed of each planet to arrange them in the given sequence? Without which we couldn't have had the weekdays!
Nilesh ji, please clarify on what the term increasing velocity of planets connotes.
Can you explain the month logic
I know number 9 month september is described as 7 in greek.
Also - at 9:40 the spatial directed migration diagram is superb and blows the aryan invasion theory to smithereens. There is also, now-a-days, a trend in linguists to trace linguistic roots to PIE (instead of IE, Indo-European, and subsequently to I, Indic). Not sure how correct is that.
संजय सर, तुफैल जी, पुष्पेंद्र जी, अत्रि सर, भरत गुप्त जी, राजीव मल्होत्रा जी, यति महाराज जी, शंकर शरण जी, मधु किश्वर जी, शेफाली वैद्य जी, इत्यादि सारे हिन्दू वादी लोगों को इकठ्ठा करके आप लोग राजनीतिक दल बनाये और सारे हिन्दू वादी बड़े नामो को एकसाथ जोड़े हमें नेशनल लेवल पे बड़े नाम चाहिए जो कट्टर हिन्दू हो और बस हिन्दू
और हिन्दुओं को एक करे नफरत हो गई इस सेकुलर शब्द से
हमें एक विकल्प चाहिए नए नए सेकुलर गांदी बने पार्टी का
बीजेपी को सत्ता सुख सुहाना लग रहा है इसलिए सबका विश्वास जीतने चले है जबकि इन्हे घंटा वोट नहीं देने वाले लेकिन मोदी को तो शांति नोबेल प्रस्कार चाहिए और UNO में एक बड़ा सा statue
हमें वो पार्टी चाहिए जो सिर्फ हिन्दू और हिन्दू हित की बात करें
बहुत हो गया इन्तजार अब समय नहीं बचा इंतज़ार करने का
इसीलिए जो हिन्दू हित की बात करेगा वही हिन्दुस्थान पे राज करेगा
A similar talk by Dr. Donna Carrol back in 2016 can be found here.
th-cam.com/video/OaYMK2n9Aow/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for sharing the link.
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Ur correct
I have few questions to ask Nilesh ji and get myself enlightened. It would be nice if I can reach him in a one to one informal discussion 🙏 I don't know how to reach him and hopefully time will tell🧘
Nilesh-ji - I have a question: at 4:30 you are saying (i.e. pronouncing) it correctly "budhwar" (बुधवार or बुधवासर), but I guess, the slide has a typo (in roman script) - "buddha" (बुद्धवार). Though the words (बुध and बुद्ध) are from the same root, they are different. Is that correct?
Another question - at 13:24 diagram the planet below Venus (clockwise) should be Mercury. Correct?
Seriously I think we are travelling from body to body,
We ourselves made some theories ,
Long ago,
That's what swami Vivekananda also uttered everything is within us we need to take it out!!!
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#Justice4SSR
Paper name surya sidhanta
Can you make a presentation in EU universities
I already have. And I would love to do them. Because of Covid, for now, they have to be via Zoom, etc.
Hindi chahiye
Sir, I cannot take you seriously. Regarding the number 3438, you say it was used in ancient Bharat because, using 2piR, it gives the circumference of the earth as 21600 nautical miles. But nautical miles only came into use in the 16th century, and in England, so why would ancient Bharat use 3438 to calculate a unit which came into existence thousands of years later? I also found your explanation of 24hours and 30 hours unconvincing.
Thank you for watching it.
Many fail to comprehend and thus you are not alone. You can not and should not take my work seriously unless you comprehend it. Fortunately, there are researchers for every taste. Find one that fits your comprehension and taste and be happy..
Best wishes. 🙏🙏
I wish Sunday comes in the middle of the week so we get a break in the middle of the week
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Vedic deities did not migrate. It's the Proto-Indo-European stage which migrated out of India.
Very conveniently he avoided the naming of Tithis after Saptami to forcefully bring it to seven days. After Saptami thi thi Lunar days, he just mentioned that the Lord of the other tithis are repeated. But did not mentioned what are their names.
He is fixing the date of Greek astronomers to a particular relay such as 230 BCE, 56 CE etc etc. But when it comes the Indian, he is giving an qualitative statement such as much much older that Greek etc etc.
There is no mention of seven days week system in any of our epic or ancient writings. All the recorded incidents of Ancient India mentioned about Teethis only.
If Neelesh makes this type of sessions, people will loose trust on earlier sessions.
The seven days system only mentioned in Sumerian writings, not in ancient Greek or ancient Chinese or ancient Indian writings.
Give reference some part of ancient text fro Greek or Indian or Chinese where any incident was written referring to name of day in Weekly system?
@@Lovehumanity33 : It is not easy to criticise any finding based on ancient manuscripts. I have studied the weekdays naming in details.
There is nothing available in Indian, Greek or Chinese manuscripts about weekdays naming. Not a single incident of Mahabharat or Ramayana bears to name of weekdays. It has only lunar month Tithis. Only in Sumerian civilisation, the seven days week system was mentioned, which was probably copied by Jews. Even Romans had 8 days system before copying it from jews. Indians only had Lunar Tithis.
I have studied it for 4-5 years. Even in Surya Sidhant, there is no mention about weekdays naming.
The Sumerian names are the same names which we use now a days.
@@Lovehumanity33 : You are right. Fasting Ritual to be studies