I clicked as fast as possible, come to realize the notification is late, again. Anyway, 9F just a few days ago and Terrier now? Sam, you’re spoiling us!
Great job in explaining the difference between the different manufactures. It helps greatly in determining what are the features between models that maybe important when determining which model may be best for your layout. Great review.
I purchased the Hornby Terrier Locomotive pack, one of the best purchases I have ever made because of the price! The Hornby Terriers are easily my personal favorite over the Dapol Terrier.
Enjoyed your review, I purchased the Leadenhall back in December. What an excellent running locomotive, so good that I purchased another one I choose BR Carisbrooke. I will use the BR for freight and the LB&SCR for the passenger cars once Hattons releases them. I did have two issues, the Leadenhall arrived with one of the buffer's broken I repaired with glue but still has fallen off on occasions, also the front coupler was not attached. On the BR the buffer tip was loose in the packaging but easily pushed on and the three felt protection pads was not in the packaging of the BR which had the locomotive moving about a little. The LB&SCR had the pads and the unit was sitting in is packaging very tightly. All in all, great locomotives for the money.
I love Terriers, I have two of the new Hornby's and I too had the same experience with the pickups on one, leading to some tweezer and long nose pliers work, but both run quiet and smooth. I have four of the older Hornby ones---- did I mention I love Terriers and one of the old Dapols. The Dapol one is the real only honker of the bunch. A great review Sam, the comparisons between the two was an excellent review tool.
I've also got the Leadenhall terrier too and I do think she's little powerhouse. She had no problem towing 6 teak coaches (normally pulled by an A4 Peregrine or P2 Cock O' The North) at low and high speed. I do have fond childhood memories of terrier "Stepney" at Blue Bell railway.
I have been waiting so long to see this review. I love the terriers, I’ve named my two birds after terrier 672 Fenchurch and 55 Stepney. I’m now trying to save for a hornby terrier.-Das Mann
Incidentally I also have this Leadenhall model; she is on display on my shelf as I write this comment (along with an LB&SCR E4, L&YR Class 5 and a Class 153). I bought my Terrier from Hattons, but mine was the equivalent of around £77; I didn't have to pay the full £81 because I didn't get the VAT charge.
It is the same class and the same livery but this one says leadernhall and is an A1 which means it has those condensing pipes from the boiler to the smokebox
I have the Hornby Brighton terrier in the same livery. Had not noticed the holes in the front of the cabin, they are so tiny. I have DCC in my loco and it manages a very nice crawl indeed. The thin stalks behind the steam (or sand?) dome bend very easily, so handle with care. A very nice and, if I may say so, CUTE model for the price. I am completely happy with mine. Thank you for the review! 😊 👍
Sam I have the Hornby Bembridge IOW A1X and the metalwork on it looks very brass, dont think its plastic. of course it uses all the holes for pipes on the cab. I really love it - does everything a terrier should except bark.
This is a very beautiful model Sam! We're lucky to have a healthy 10 preserved examples, especially Stepney! Let's hope the Bluebell Railway overhauls Stepney again someday and lets hope they finish Fenchurch's overhaul in time for her 150th birthday!
Hi Sam. The Improved Green livery is my favourite of all the ones on offer. I have the Dapol N gauge model "Brighton Works" in the same livery. I have yet to run it as my layout is still under construction. Unfortunately, the smaller gauge precludes it from coming with DCC/sound fitted; if I were to try and DIY it, it would invalidate the warranty. I realise you 'measure' the tractive effort of locos using your Newton meter, but I think it would also be interesting to correlate the power in terms of loco weight. Didn't look especially fast.
Sam, I bought a Dapol/Rails version and it had all the problems you highlighted in your review. Replaced with the Hornby version ('Chapeau' to Rails - no quibble return from their side). The little Hornby version is simpler but still works well and v. cute. From a couple of feet away the detail points are quite OK. No contest: the Rails version was a crime against humanity. This is a (very well priced) option.
The cab with the holes on the lighter colour Hornby Terriers is the main reason I didn't choose their Terrier in this colour first time round. On the darker colour ones the holes aren't as noticeable as I have Hornby one in the K&ESR blue livery. I may get another one but in Southern livery
We have equal taste in steam engines, shunters, DMUs and HSTs alike. By the way, I decided to go engine-spotting. I saw the ghostly grey P Class Tank Engine near Toy Town, the J70 Tram Engine on the turntable siding, a fourth Terrier Tank Engine, Whitechapel, hiding behind the pub and the odd one out, which is the 0-4-0 Pug. The theme was the 0-6-0 wheel arrangement, you did this before, so the oddity is the 0-4-0 Pug. Just goes to show how much you and I love steam engines.
One explanation of Stroudley's improved engine green was that it was his nineteenth century way of saying an improvement on engine green. Perhaps wearing properties of the paint pigment improved too over the previous green.
I have just recived the exact same one, now all i am awaiting for is the hattons genesis coaches. I actually changed the couplings on mine (like with all my rolling stock) so that it runs better with tri-ang stock.
Enjoyed the review, also watched the alternative Dapol one that kept derailing. I've just ordered the Hornby one because reliability and consistent performance is main criteria. I'm running on 1st radius so I need good runners to get round them, which this one will probably be fine. Keep doing reviews as I always look to you for advice as I'm a newbie to the game. Cheers, Rick the Bulldog
Agreed with you : I have one in Southern Green, it's a nice and efficient branchline engine. Less details ? I don't care because it means less GBP, that's a good deal for me. Especially when the finish is OK, and the mechanism on the born-to-run side. I also agree on the 3 poles motors, a 5 poles would have been better, and a flywheel would have been a good idea. If you want a Terrier, it is THE model to buy for me, period. Hornby have everything right here on the basics, you've got really what you paid for.
I got one of these, pre-Sam's Review, and got lucky. Runs very nice and pulls whatever I put up to it. Nice that gear ratio is on the high side giving a pleasing low speed performance. As to the level of detail, well I tend to compare it to what I grew up with, like Triang and the old classic Hornby O-4-O, so it is rather smashing compared to that. I have to pay a huge penalty on shipping, so for me it's definitely been worth it.
Hey Sam,I have a question,I have watched your Hornby vs Bachmann video and is still dont know wich brand I should start my own model railway with,I'm definitely getting some bachmann Thomas the Tank Engine locomotives,but I just don't know what to get after that,because I do want some real engines,so,what should I start with,Hornby or Bahcmann? Please let me know.
The Improved Engine Green livery was renamed Merrigold during its time, so maybe Stroudley wasn't colourblind? OR, everyone just told him it was yellow.
Thank you very much for your comment on the livery. When Sam got the engine out it was not ANY kind of green but a bright orange. I even asked the missus as I thought I was going doolally🙂. She took one look and said she had never seen a loco in bright orange before. Good review though.
I run a pair of Terriers, a Dapol and a Hornby, bought used and at the same time with the intention of running them back to back. This gives them better pulling power, especially over Setrack Insulfrogs - no stalling. Oh, and both have a representation of coal in the bunker.
Great to see your thourough reviews on these different terrier locomotives. Just wondering, I know these are newer tooling than my Thomas the Tank engine Stepney, do these newer ones have improved reliability in regards to the Motors? Mine has just done in its second motor and I am wondering if the older bodies are compatible with the newer chassis? cheers.
What size 'coaches' do you use when you measure their ability to haul # of coaches? Full size passenger ones for express trains or what I call 'branchline' coaches? (the ones with either 2 or 3 sets of wheels, not bogie mounted)
Sam, what is the % gradient on Gordans' Hill please. This will help me choose locos in the future. You're my first port of call when looking at any trains as your reviews are very fair and appropriate. Cheers
Yeah love the Hornby Terrier's they work & look great. I have 5 of them & the only quality issue I had was on Leadenhall it had a black smudge on the side of the tank that doesnt come off but other than that I'm very happy them. Seeing all the quality issues with the Dapol one was enough to put me off entirely, no point to it if its not going to function properly. Thanks for video keep up the good work :).
I love this model! I got No48for Christmas last year and it only cost 142nzd! (70 pounds!). I can't fault it, and it's a beautiful model. I am intending get a pair of hattons 4 wheelers so it can have it's own little train for my layout, it's that nice!
I had a Terrier, but I used the Chassis for a RWS styled Thomas. I used the body of a Bachmann Thomas (with sound). I would have just used the Thomas Chassis, but it was dead on arrival, literally. The speaker worked (albeit rather poorly). I took it apart and discovered that the motor was burnt out and I haven't even ran the thing yet.
That sounds awesome - what a cool idea - did you managed to get it all fitted together? Such a pity about the motor though - I've had those burn out before too :( Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I have a theorie on why hornby’s models are most plastic Its to keep down cost and make it easy to make the models because if they are made from metal the price will go up (look at the new a3’s compared to the a3’s from 10 years ago)
Have you had any problems with your new tool hornby terrier's? Mine (r3848 13 carisbrooke, in my profile pic) was ok, then it started to become a relatively rough rider before stopping dead altogether. I haven't got her going since. Any ideas?
@@SamsTrains I got it 4 months ago as an Xmas present but don't think I'll be able to return as I have had the body and baseplate off to look for problems
I've just tested my Rails Terrier against my four Hornby ones and there's virtually no difference in crawling speed on my end to end layout. This is using an ancient Hornby controller too. I also have one of the last of the old style Hornby Terriers and that isn't very far behind the others in fairness.
i have recently gotten into model trains and am trying to stick to gwr / ex-gwr era 2/3/4/5. i am hoping to get a powerful gwr / ex-gwr locomotive. what is your most powerful gwr / ex-gwr era 3/4/5 locomotive?
I had to buy one - an Isle of Wight SOUTHERN liveried. It is beautiful! So much detail - I can't even read the plate on the back! I can't wait to run this beauty. First time I've bought a train from Amazon Prime! I only paid £42 for mine (I'm pretending my £35 Amazon voucher wasn't real money).
Stroudley's biographer apparently disputes the engineer's colourblindness. I heard something along the lines of that the reason the livery is called "Improved engine green" is because Stroudley phrased it as an "Improvement on green" because the LBSCR painted their locos green before Stroudley came along. Interestingly, no notes in the board meetings on both the Highland Railway, which he was CME of, or the LBSCR can confirm this. Curious indeed!
You know, that reminds me of the time I did a hypothermia train display for Foundation Degree graphics about the evolution of steam trains and Stepney was one of them. Glad that a healthy 20% of these guys are still around.
Hey Sam brought one if these few days ago for my birthday it's Stepney from blue bell railway runs like a dream didn't know the lady friend had brought it got told it was another one great video 😀😀😀
Great video as usual. I follow all your reviews before I buy a locomotive all the time and never come p short . I personally think you were a little hard on this one but that’s your right . I still value you opinion on your reviews. Keep it up.
Your review is spot on Sam. A lovely smooth little tank engine... at a decent price tag and better than the first batch. Hope Hornby improves the new large Prairie at the next production run too. There seems to be a positive change.....Thanks for sharing & greetings, Filip
Sam, I've seen many historic photographs of British steam locomotives supplied to Commonwealth countries. Most of them were equipped with enormous light fixtures on front and/or back. Why Hornby's models are lampless?
Hey Sam got any good sites in the uk besides hattons that are good for second hand buying? I’ve been trying to get my hands on Hornbys newer Stepney for awhile since they retired it
Took your time doing this review, considering you mentioned you'd bought it late last year. £69.99? Nice. I have the BRITISH RAILWAYS malachite green A1X with IoW extended bunker, W13 Carisbrooke (formerly 77 Wonersh, then 677, B677, W3 Carisbrooke, W13, then 32677), bought it 2nd hand DCC fitted for £50 posted, absolute bargain, is a lovely loco but has a large glue mark on the front buffer beam. It happily ran with 3 super detailed maunsell coaches for ages, so much more powerful than my older hornby A1 class 650 Whitechapel in Improved Engine Green. I set the DCC address to 3013 because it is number 13 on the side and its a southern region loco. I'd get confused if i numbered it 0077, 0677, or 2677 because that'd not match what it shows on the side, but I couldn't have it as 0013 because my Wabtec sentinel is number H013 and was DCC fitted first so claimed the 0013 number first. It's sad that 10 terriers were preserved, yet for NER locos only 13 (1 j21, 1 j27, 1 j72, 1 q6, 1 q7, the x1 Aerolite, the long boiler 1001, the 2-4-0 901, 1 d17/1, 2 y7s, 1 e5) from the entire company were preserved. I'd love a model of the x1 tbh. Atm I have 9 j72s (although two are identical, and 2 are the LNER and BR versions of the same loco) plus a q6, and I'm looking forward to the oxford j26/j27s as well as the bachmann/tmc g5s. Have to say, this loco in the review is my favourite shade of green, ever. :p Slowly getting there with youtube catchup.
I have got R3813 IOW version "Cowes". It has pipework going into those holes! Comparing it to R2443 "Ventnor", R3813 is the more accurate model, but it doesn't run as well across points. I have improved this situation a bit by adjusting the pickups so they press harder against the wheels. You might be able to this with that Rails offering. Comparing the old Hornby Terrier to the new one, the old one is somewhat noisy, but runs quite well. If you compare the old and new Terriers side by side, the new one is dimensionally much more accurate, but the old one is still quite pleasing. You might to join the IOW pre-1966 steam Facebook group. Lots of good photos and information for Terrier aficionados! Thanks for uploading.
hi there. good review sam,. sadly I don't have one now as I had to send 2 back as the motor was very jerky and didn't run in sync. kept juddering. so i may of herd a dodgy batch. many another time. but your review gives me hope.. cheers Matt
Hey Sam, Hornby is making they’re first HO train/ train set on the newest Amtrak Acela, you can preorder it on trainworld (the American discounted Hattons) for £87.
I do like the Hornby Terriers, they may not be as detailed as the Dapol/Rails one but I do feel like you get a lot for your money here. Funnily enough when I did my review of Stepney last year I made a similar comment about the front of the cab looking like it had been shot at too 😂
I knew it when u were talking about how bad the dapol terriers mechanism was and of how hornbys was easier to disassemble I saw the name leader hall u have had this thing for months
props to you for resisting the urge to say “nice” every time you mentioned the price
haha I'm doing my best! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Pro trick: you can watch movies on flixzone. Been using them for watching lots of of movies these days.
@Lennox Zayn yup, I have been using flixzone for since december myself :)
That sinking feeling when you realize that you now have to wait another three days for a new Sam’s Trains video .....
haha bless you Ian - more on the way soon! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Picked this up a few months ago from TTCDiecast for £63 and it runs beautifully.
Amazing - what a price too!!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
12:29 not going to talk about the molding of that hand rail?
I clicked as fast as possible, come to realize the notification is late, again. Anyway, 9F just a few days ago and Terrier now? Sam, you’re spoiling us!
haha awesome - it's only been a few minutes though!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Great job in explaining the difference between the different manufactures. It helps greatly in determining what are the features between models that maybe important when determining which model may be best for your layout. Great review.
I purchased the Hornby Terrier Locomotive pack, one of the best purchases I have ever made because of the price! The Hornby Terriers are easily my personal favorite over the Dapol Terrier.
"God Loves a Terrier" - Catherine O'Hare and Eugene Levy. 😻
haha can't disagree! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains - Do you know the film?
I have that exact same Hornby terrier! Was in Sandford close by the Swanage railway!
That's awesome - glad you have one too! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I love the Hornby Terrier. A superb little loco, mine is a Southern with olive green livery. It looks fantastic
Yeah me too - they're okay aren't they?? :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I really enjoy the comparison you did in this video with the dapol/rails model
Would like to see more of this in the future
Thanks so much - yeah I enjoy doing things like that too! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Enjoyed your review, I purchased the Leadenhall back in December. What an excellent running locomotive, so good that I purchased another one I choose BR Carisbrooke. I will use the BR for freight and the LB&SCR for the passenger cars once Hattons releases them. I did have two issues, the Leadenhall arrived with one of the buffer's broken I repaired with glue but still has fallen off on occasions, also the front coupler was not attached. On the BR the buffer tip was loose in the packaging but easily pushed on and the three felt protection pads was not in the packaging of the BR which had the locomotive moving about a little. The LB&SCR had the pads and the unit was sitting in is packaging very tightly. All in all, great locomotives for the money.
I love the look of 0-6-0s and especially the terrier
Yeah me too Colum! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
The best feeling is studying for school and watching Sam. Great Terrier.
I’ve been waiting for this for so long. Thanks for finally doing it!!
Awesome! Hope you like it Jack, it's a pleasure!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
12:28 notice the glue marks on the handrail above 5he smokebox door
Oh yeah!! I didn't notice those actually - good spot!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I love Terriers, I have two of the new Hornby's and I too had the same experience with the pickups on one, leading to some tweezer and long nose pliers work, but both run quiet and smooth. I have four of the older Hornby ones---- did I mention I love Terriers and one of the old Dapols. The Dapol one is the real only honker of the bunch. A great review Sam, the comparisons between the two was an excellent review tool.
I've also got the Leadenhall terrier too and I do think she's little powerhouse. She had no problem towing 6 teak coaches (normally pulled by an A4 Peregrine or P2 Cock O' The North) at low and high speed. I do have fond childhood memories of terrier "Stepney" at Blue Bell railway.
I love these ,especially in the lbsc livery
Me too Harry - it's my favourite!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Fit a 5 pole motor and a fly-wheel in there and I think it’s almost perfect for the price! Great video Sam!
You're right - I would have preferred that!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I have been waiting so long to see this review. I love the terriers, I’ve named my two birds after terrier 672 Fenchurch and 55 Stepney. I’m now trying to save for a hornby terrier.-Das Mann
Thanks so much Das - that's a lovely idea too!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Incidentally I also have this Leadenhall model; she is on display on my shelf as I write this comment (along with an LB&SCR E4, L&YR Class 5 and a Class 153).
I bought my Terrier from Hattons, but mine was the equivalent of around £77; I didn't have to pay the full £81 because I didn't get the VAT charge.
That engine looks like Stepney the bluebell engine from Thomas and friends
It would be as they are the same class
Yeah it totally does actually!! :O
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Oh! Lovely Sam! :D
It is the same class and the same livery but this one says leadernhall and is an A1 which means it has those condensing pipes from the boiler to the smokebox
Hornby actually produced Stepney (just slapped a face onto the smoke box I think) but he’s one of the engines who got a limited edition run.
I have the Hornby Brighton terrier in the same livery. Had not noticed the holes in the front of the cabin, they are so tiny. I have DCC in my loco and it manages a very nice crawl indeed. The thin stalks behind the steam (or sand?) dome bend very easily, so handle with care. A very nice and, if I may say so, CUTE model for the price. I am completely happy with mine. Thank you for the review! 😊 👍
Sam I have the Hornby Bembridge IOW A1X and the metalwork on it looks very brass, dont think its plastic. of course it uses all the holes for pipes on the cab. I really love it - does everything a terrier should except bark.
Such a beautiful loco. I’m planning on buying either an A1 or an A1X so I can make Stepney. Which one do you reckon I should try to get?
10:48 mine has lots of pipes going into where those hole are on yours so I think its just part of the tooling
Ah nevermind you mentioned it
Yeah that's right! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
This is a very beautiful model Sam! We're lucky to have a healthy 10 preserved examples, especially Stepney! Let's hope the Bluebell Railway overhauls Stepney again someday and lets hope they finish Fenchurch's overhaul in time for her 150th birthday!
Hi Sam. The Improved Green livery is my favourite of all the ones on offer. I have the Dapol N gauge model "Brighton Works" in the same livery. I have yet to run it as my layout is still under construction. Unfortunately, the smaller gauge precludes it from coming with DCC/sound fitted; if I were to try and DIY it, it would invalidate the warranty. I realise you 'measure' the tractive effort of locos using your Newton meter, but I think it would also be interesting to correlate the power in terms of loco weight. Didn't look especially fast.
Hello I guess. I should really be sleeping now. :(
haha good night then!! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I stayed up past my bedtime for a Terrier.
Sam, I bought a Dapol/Rails version and it had all the problems you highlighted in your review. Replaced with the Hornby version ('Chapeau' to Rails - no quibble return from their side). The little Hornby version is simpler but still works well and v. cute. From a couple of feet away the detail points are quite OK. No contest: the Rails version was a crime against humanity. This is a (very well priced) option.
I’m not the one for perfect detail if it suits the quality to be standard model i happily buy it. Brilliant video mate🙂
I agree - this sure is a good example of that for me too!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
The cab with the holes on the lighter colour Hornby Terriers is the main reason I didn't choose their Terrier in this colour first time round. On the darker colour ones the holes aren't as noticeable as I have Hornby one in the K&ESR blue livery. I may get another one but in Southern livery
We have equal taste in steam engines, shunters, DMUs and HSTs alike. By the way, I decided to go engine-spotting. I saw the ghostly grey P Class Tank Engine near Toy Town, the J70 Tram Engine on the turntable siding, a fourth Terrier Tank Engine, Whitechapel, hiding behind the pub and the odd one out, which is the 0-4-0 Pug. The theme was the 0-6-0 wheel arrangement, you did this before, so the oddity is the 0-4-0 Pug. Just goes to show how much you and I love steam engines.
One explanation of Stroudley's improved engine green was that it was his nineteenth century way of saying an improvement on engine green. Perhaps wearing properties of the paint pigment improved too over the previous green.
Ahh very interesting idea John - yeah that sounds feasible!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I am an American modeler but i absolutely adore the Terriers!!!
haha yeah - I don't know anyone that doesn't like Terriers! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
A fine model from Hornby Sam...a joy to watch it running so well....Bob
I have this in the exact same livery. She is such a great runner. Hope the genesis coaches by Hattons will match her well. Great vid Sam. :)
Ooh fantastic - they are indeed great runners! I hope for that too! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I tell a lie! After looking back at my boxes I actually have the Top Link Centerary 'Merton' limited edition version. Either way a perfect runner.
hi sam . she seems to run much better than the other one. the detail not so important as performance . the hornby is the one i would buy. cheers tom.
I have just recived the exact same one, now all i am awaiting for is the hattons genesis coaches. I actually changed the couplings on mine (like with all my rolling stock) so that it runs better with tri-ang stock.
101 is such a nice number isn't it. You have the Class 101 DMU in the UK and the JNR 101 series EMU in Japan. Anyway congrats on 101K subscribers! :)
It sure is - I love those! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Enjoyed the review, also watched the alternative Dapol one that kept derailing. I've just ordered the Hornby one because reliability and consistent performance is main criteria. I'm running on 1st radius so I need good runners to get round them, which this one will probably be fine. Keep doing reviews as I always look to you for advice as I'm a newbie to the game. Cheers, Rick the Bulldog
Agreed with you : I have one in Southern Green, it's a nice and efficient branchline engine. Less details ? I don't care because it means less GBP, that's a good deal for me. Especially when the finish is OK, and the mechanism on the born-to-run side. I also agree on the 3 poles motors, a 5 poles would have been better, and a flywheel would have been a good idea.
If you want a Terrier, it is THE model to buy for me, period. Hornby have everything right here on the basics, you've got really what you paid for.
I got one of these, pre-Sam's Review, and got lucky. Runs very nice and pulls whatever I put up to it. Nice that gear ratio is on the high side giving a pleasing low speed performance. As to the level of detail, well I tend to compare it to what I grew up with, like Triang and the old classic Hornby O-4-O, so it is rather smashing compared to that. I have to pay a huge penalty on shipping, so for me it's definitely been worth it.
I got my Dapol N gauge terrier a few weeks ago in the LBSCR brown luckily it’s better than the 00 gauge Rails terrier-Ben
Hey Sam,I have a question,I have watched your Hornby vs Bachmann video and is still dont know wich brand I should start my own model railway with,I'm definitely getting some bachmann Thomas the Tank Engine locomotives,but I just don't know what to get after that,because I do want some real engines,so,what should I start with,Hornby or Bahcmann? Please let me know.
"Bluebells forever!"
- Stepney The Bluebell Engine.
Awhh love it! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
The Improved Engine Green livery was renamed Merrigold during its time, so maybe Stroudley wasn't colourblind? OR, everyone just told him it was yellow.
Ahh really?? I still don't know what that means though! xD
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Thank you very much for your comment on the livery. When Sam got the engine out it was not ANY kind of green but a bright orange. I even asked the missus as I thought I was going doolally🙂. She took one look and said she had never seen a loco in bright orange before.
Good review though.
I run a pair of Terriers, a Dapol and a Hornby, bought used and at the same time with the intention of running them back to back. This gives them better pulling power, especially over Setrack Insulfrogs - no stalling. Oh, and both have a representation of coal in the bunker.
Great to see your thourough reviews on these different terrier locomotives. Just wondering, I know these are newer tooling than my Thomas the Tank engine Stepney, do these newer ones have improved reliability in regards to the Motors? Mine has just done in its second motor and I am wondering if the older bodies are compatible with the newer chassis? cheers.
What size 'coaches' do you use when you measure their ability to haul # of coaches?
Full size passenger ones for express trains or what I call 'branchline' coaches? (the ones with either 2 or 3 sets of wheels, not bogie mounted)
Sam, what is the % gradient on Gordans' Hill please. This will help me choose locos in the future. You're my first port of call when looking at any trains as your reviews are very fair and appropriate. Cheers
Yeah love the Hornby Terrier's they work & look great. I have 5 of them & the only quality issue I had was on Leadenhall it had a black smudge on the side of the tank that doesnt come off but other than that I'm very happy them. Seeing all the quality issues with the Dapol one was enough to put me off entirely, no point to it if its not going to function properly. Thanks for video keep up the good work :).
I love this model! I got No48for Christmas last year and it only cost 142nzd! (70 pounds!). I can't fault it, and it's a beautiful model. I am intending get a pair of hattons 4 wheelers so it can have it's own little train for my layout, it's that nice!
I had a Terrier, but I used the Chassis for a RWS styled Thomas. I used the body of a Bachmann Thomas (with sound). I would have just used the Thomas Chassis, but it was dead on arrival, literally. The speaker worked (albeit rather poorly). I took it apart and discovered that the motor was burnt out and I haven't even ran the thing yet.
That sounds awesome - what a cool idea - did you managed to get it all fitted together? Such a pity about the motor though - I've had those burn out before too :(
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains with enough drilling into the underside of the body, I was able to fit it together and I made it so I can unscrew it if I need too.
I have a theorie on why hornby’s models are most plastic
Its to keep down cost and make it easy to make the models because if they are made from metal the price will go up (look at the new a3’s compared to the a3’s from 10 years ago)
An wonderful model I adore!! Look at that uploaded 3 hours ago with 0 dislikes, impressive
Great to hear that - haha thank you! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
A very nice little model that is will definitely be looking for one in this livery
Thanks so much David, I can recommend it! :D
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Hi Sam, one thing is if you have a black Hornby terrier the gap isn’t noticeable
Just bought one from Amazon, cant wait for it to arrive! looks like a great model, my first non-ttte tank engine.
Amazing! Hope you have fun with it - they're lovely things! :D
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Sam will it be better to buy an terror and tack packs and Trucks or by an train set like Flying Scottsmen or GWR one
Have you had any problems with your new tool hornby terrier's? Mine (r3848 13 carisbrooke, in my profile pic) was ok, then it started to become a relatively rough rider before stopping dead altogether. I haven't got her going since. Any ideas?
Hmmm no I haven't had that issue - how long have you had it? You may be able to return it for a replacement/repairs!
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@@SamsTrains I got it 4 months ago as an Xmas present but don't think I'll be able to return as I have had the body and baseplate off to look for problems
I've just tested my Rails Terrier against my four Hornby ones and there's virtually no difference in crawling speed on my end to end layout. This is using an ancient Hornby controller too. I also have one of the last of the old style Hornby Terriers and that isn't very far behind the others in fairness.
i have recently gotten into model trains and am trying to stick to gwr / ex-gwr era 2/3/4/5.
i am hoping to get a powerful gwr / ex-gwr locomotive.
what is your most powerful gwr / ex-gwr era 3/4/5 locomotive?
I had to buy one - an Isle of Wight SOUTHERN liveried. It is beautiful! So much detail - I can't even read the plate on the back! I can't wait to run this beauty.
First time I've bought a train from Amazon Prime! I only paid £42 for mine (I'm pretending my £35 Amazon voucher wasn't real money).
Stroudley's biographer apparently disputes the engineer's colourblindness. I heard something along the lines of that the reason the livery is called "Improved engine green" is because Stroudley phrased it as an "Improvement on green" because the LBSCR painted their locos green before Stroudley came along. Interestingly, no notes in the board meetings on both the Highland Railway, which he was CME of, or the LBSCR can confirm this. Curious indeed!
You know, that reminds me of the time I did a hypothermia train display for Foundation Degree graphics about the evolution of steam trains and Stepney was one of them. Glad that a healthy 20% of these guys are still around.
Oh wow - that sounds awesome!! :D
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Hey Sam brought one if these few days ago for my birthday it's Stepney from blue bell railway runs like a dream didn't know the lady friend had brought it got told it was another one great video 😀😀😀
Lovely locos, don’t even need to see the review to know what everyone else says about them! 😄
I agree, haha that's true!!
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when 69 gbp was the price of a railways terrier in improved engine green
kill me
Hey. Its me on the screen. YAY. It is such an improvement over the dapol. Both might I add.
Ooh yeah it is!! Absolutely - much better!
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Another minor milestone hitting 101 thousand subscribers.
haha I know right!! xD
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Just got a Terrier for myself
Same gorgeous livery only mine’s Brighton
Damn, you were so close to having a complete LBSCR improved engine green running session! Just missing Whitechapel!
Sam actually does have Whitechapel but that broke down and has been shown on “how to burn down a model railway”
haha that's true - it's not broken down now, it runs again with a new motor!
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I got the Centenary Terrier last year and it performs similar your Terrier. Overall, very cool engine, and nice review.
Amazing - does the Centenary one have a different finish too??
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Hi Sam, Nice review, thought I might have got one for my birthday, no such luck, Hornby can get some things right , All the Best Brian 🤗
Great video as usual. I follow all your reviews before I buy a locomotive all the time and never come p short . I personally think you were a little hard on this one but that’s your right . I still value you opinion on your reviews. Keep it up.
Your review is spot on Sam. A lovely smooth little tank engine... at a decent price tag and better than the first batch. Hope Hornby improves the new large Prairie at the next production run too. There seems to be a positive change.....Thanks for sharing & greetings, Filip
Nice Review. I like these little dogs-locos. ;)
An interesting analogue control system for four locomotives? Or for four separate circuits?
Hey Sam are you interested of reviewing the Bachmann Caledonian 812?
A very good review! Also congratulations on 101K!
Thanks so much Tee!! :D
mate you do the best train unboxing vids.
Awhh thanks so much!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Finally got myself a Terrier. Loving my Hornby one. Mine is preserved member "Brighton" in the same beautiful (and not green 😛🤫😉) livery.
Sam, I've seen many historic photographs of British steam locomotives supplied to Commonwealth countries. Most of them were equipped with enormous light fixtures on front and/or back. Why Hornby's models are lampless?
Hey Sam got any good sites in the uk besides hattons that are good for second hand buying? I’ve been trying to get my hands on Hornbys newer Stepney for awhile since they retired it
Took your time doing this review, considering you mentioned you'd bought it late last year. £69.99? Nice.
I have the BRITISH RAILWAYS malachite green A1X with IoW extended bunker, W13 Carisbrooke (formerly 77 Wonersh, then 677, B677, W3 Carisbrooke, W13, then 32677), bought it 2nd hand DCC fitted for £50 posted, absolute bargain, is a lovely loco but has a large glue mark on the front buffer beam. It happily ran with 3 super detailed maunsell coaches for ages, so much more powerful than my older hornby A1 class 650 Whitechapel in Improved Engine Green.
I set the DCC address to 3013 because it is number 13 on the side and its a southern region loco. I'd get confused if i numbered it 0077, 0677, or 2677 because that'd not match what it shows on the side, but I couldn't have it as 0013 because my Wabtec sentinel is number H013 and was DCC fitted first so claimed the 0013 number first.
It's sad that 10 terriers were preserved, yet for NER locos only 13 (1 j21, 1 j27, 1 j72, 1 q6, 1 q7, the x1 Aerolite, the long boiler 1001, the 2-4-0 901, 1 d17/1, 2 y7s, 1 e5) from the entire company were preserved. I'd love a model of the x1 tbh. Atm I have 9 j72s (although two are identical, and 2 are the LNER and BR versions of the same loco) plus a q6, and I'm looking forward to the oxford j26/j27s as well as the bachmann/tmc g5s.
Have to say, this loco in the review is my favourite shade of green, ever. :p
Slowly getting there with youtube catchup.
Great review. Spot on a usual. Also, great to see Bullman getting a decent run. Sometimes his appearance is a little fleeting.
Thanks so much Edward - haha it can be, he doesn't stick around for long these days!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
How do you resist opening you brand new locos for days weeks and or months?
I have got R3813 IOW version "Cowes". It has pipework going into those holes! Comparing it to R2443 "Ventnor", R3813 is the more accurate model, but it doesn't run as well across points. I have improved this situation a bit by adjusting the pickups so they press harder against the wheels. You might be able to this with that Rails offering. Comparing the old Hornby Terrier to the new one, the old one is somewhat noisy, but runs quite well. If you compare the old and new Terriers side by side, the new one is dimensionally much more accurate, but the old one is still quite pleasing. You might to join the IOW pre-1966 steam Facebook group. Lots of good photos and information for Terrier aficionados! Thanks for uploading.
Awesome new Terrier you picked up! It’s nice to see you have the one that Stepney is in real life! Looks great! 👍
Thanks so much - yeah absolutely, it's a good looker isn't it? :D
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I love the look of these the terriers are my favourite tank engines
I do too Lewis, they are amazing aren't they? :D
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hi there.
good review sam,. sadly I don't have one now as I had to send 2 back as the motor was very jerky and didn't run in sync. kept juddering. so i may of herd a dodgy batch. many another time. but your review gives me hope.. cheers Matt
Hey Sam, Hornby is making they’re first HO train/ train set on the newest Amtrak Acela, you can preorder it on trainworld (the American discounted Hattons) for £87.
Oh amazing - I'll have to look into that for sure! :O
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I do like the Hornby Terriers, they may not be as detailed as the Dapol/Rails one but I do feel like you get a lot for your money here. Funnily enough when I did my review of Stepney last year I made a similar comment about the front of the cab looking like it had been shot at too 😂
I have the LSWR terrier dcc fitted and it runs like a dream
The Centennial "Merton" was one of my first locos. I love the finish on it, definitely one of my favorites.
Ahh fantastic - yeah they look grand don't they? :D
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Will you unbox the bachmann Santa Fe train set
I knew it when u were talking about how bad the dapol terriers mechanism was and of how hornbys was easier to disassemble I saw the name leader hall u have had this thing for months
Yeah absolutely - this one's just such a nice design!
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Sam you finally did it! I was waiting for it
haha yeah, it's finally here! :D
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Do you know if I could pick one up in the states
I'm sure some retailers would ship one to you! :D
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Thank you