Why America is Actually 15 Different Countries
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In this video, we explore the diverse cultures that make up America and why Americans are not just one nation but several unique nations. Dive into the complexities of American identity and history with this insightful exploration!
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The Chinook Wawa word for American is Boston so the New Englander origins checks out; at least for 19th Century Immigration in Washington State.
3/4 of my relatives immigrated to Washington from the Corn Belt and Quebec, roughly during WW1/Great Depression era.
Maternal Grandmother grew up in London area and uprooted to Washington in the 60’s after marrying an American Army Accountant. :)
Stop thinking regional differences are exclusive to America; or a uniquely American phenomenon. It's not special and we're not impressed with it. You all speak English with barely any variety other than accents; again, like everywhere else in the world.
Here's how I count the 15 countries of America:
1. New Englanders
2. East Coastfolk
3. Southerners, Cajuns, Floridafolk and Creoles
4. Black Belters
5. Greater Appalachians
6. Rust Belters
7. Great Lakesfolk (North Country & Lower Midwest)
8. Upper Midwesterners
9. Greater Rockians/Old West Trailerites
10. Saintslanders (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints)
11. Chicanos, Texans and other Hispanics
12. West Coastfolk
13. Mountain Westerners
14. Navajo, Ute & Hopi
15. Native Hawaiian diaspora
@@gabfortin1976 Z could be starting a series and talking about all the different countries?
Idk, let’s see how things go. :)
I only exist in Leavemealoneland
The North American Economic Zone, is a more fitting name.
The Economic zone that is trying to turn every Nation state into a mirror image of itself.
Globalist
Globalist
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Ok King Charles
I love how you have to explain the American Empire every single time you make one of these videos.
You should make an in-depth dive into the Empire vs a nation in one video and just link it before each video you do similar to this so you can just go “go watch this video for a full explanation”
I concur. It would make things easier. 👍
It would be interesting to hear Z's additional input on that. In the meantime I would recommend Pax Tube and his video on why the American Empire is in decline.
Genuinely, it might be necessary. It's like, I can give you some required reading, and you'll be kinda lost during the video, or I can summarize the details for you, and you can at least be caught up to speed with everyone else. It's like this with most history subjects, sometimes you can't just drop into something without mentioning something else.
@@MonsieurDean there's like a half dozen other words that could be substituted for empire, seems like shade for shades sake
@@beefweiner call it what it is though
I’m from the Chicago area and now live in rural Minnesota. The real culture transition from Illinois to Minnesota occurs at about the Wisconsin River which runs through Madison. North of Madison, the geography shifts to more forestry, and the ethnicity transitions to more German/Scandinavian. South of it you have a more distinctly Cumbrian English ancestry descended from the Appalachian frontiersmen. Still a lot of German ancestry, but more Missouri Synod versus Lutheran.
There’s a Heavy Black population South of it Too
Wisconsin South of Milwaukee has more in common with Northern Illinois than with the rest of the State. Milwaukee received a lot of immigration from up North, so it stands out from the areas directly South of the county.
Also live in rural MN and noticed that too. Grew up in the hills of Maryland, close to the mountains, but not in it. Very Catholic and family oriented over there with large German populations. The change there is very clear when you cross the Potomac and see the flat farms and cities on the other side of the state. Took me a while to acclimate to the MN nation .
Yeah, I’m from North Dakota/minnesota and generally agree. There’s a few distinct regions in MN depending on where you are in the state
@@Blaxton9this is bizarre to me. Is Western MD Catholic? Somehow this comment touches on both sides of my family…mom’s side is from rural Minnesota and wholly Scandinavian, Dad’s is Catholic from southern MD going back to the first settlers in the region. I had no idea western MD also had a Catholic background. Unfortunately I grew up thinking that area was stereotypically backwards…
After the election you should come back to this map and try to figure out how each country voted based on the vote counts. It would be hard to compile all the precise vote counts but it would be interesting to see a more in depth political view of these countries.
Sounds fun
Heck yeah! I already have a theory for how they will vote, but I definitely should revisit this afterward.
@@MonsieurDean pls fix pnw, eastern washington is more like idaho in culture, same with eastern oregon, we are separated by the cascades, on the west side of cascades its hippies, and on the east its cowboys and shit. PLEASE make eastern washington and eastern oregon separate to western.
@@MonsieurDean oooh theory video re the election please
@@MonsieurDean It'd be great to see a before and after, and the improvements to the model after coming into contact with practice.
From Northern VA originally, in Brooklyn now. America is really three countries: Magastan, Wokeistan, and Leavemealonestan
These three "nations" are located in, respectively, a large central triangle whose general borders are North Dakota, Texas, and Alabama, with a prong jutting into the Appalachians and a western appendage curving around into Mormon territory; the Pacific, much of the Southwest, and the East Coast from Maine to Virginia; and the three "swing" states of Iowa, Ohio, and Florida (one could arguably include Arizona, Wisconsin, Indiana, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Georgia in this final group as well).
Of course, the above is more or less an ideological snapshot of America in the year 2020, and is already a bit dated. Not to mention that there are stubborn enclaves within all of these regions. My family's Southern California household, otherwise deep within "Wokeistan," is rabidly devoted to "Magastan" (much to my chagrin).
Man I really hope the people from Leavemealonestan never have to face any real issues or things might get kinda awkward there
From NoVA too. Me and you both know NoVA is NOT Virginia.
@@jibtibh.9245 no but Virginia has certainly changed and is much more Mid-Atlantic nowadays than Southern. NoVA, Fredericksburg, RVA, and the 757 are integrated into the Northeast Regional Amtrak line these days. Even in my lifetime (I’m 31), Virginia has definitely transitioned away from The South and more into the Megalopolis. Hampton Roads will be the Southern terminus of the Megalopolis in no time
@@tiramiseratops I could say the same of Wokeistan. There are no real social justice issues anymore, just a bunch of grifters masquerading as activists
That IS how a nation works if its nationalism is civically-defined, not ethnically-defined.
Thank you! If your a Pole in America, your just as much an American as a descendent from the Mayflower. Germany and Russia ruled Poland for a hundred years and the Poles were always second class citizens. Not in America.
this gives that
"what kind of Americans are you?" scene from Civil War a bit of new context.
"What kind of American are you?"
(Starts playing this video) "Well, you see...."
*(BANG!)*
Where's the Cajun nation. They're predominantly Catholics traditionally but have gone more towards pentecostal. Ethnicly French, Indian, and Spanish.
Unfortunately, partly due to being put in half redneck borders, were less and less of a culture with each passing year. We need to reverse anglicizing or in 30 years the only French thing left here will be the surnames.
I agree, I’m creole and despite New Orleans being historically catholic, my family is from Acadiana and are Protestant.
I've noticed that, while a decent amount of people from traditionally Protestant backgrounds are becoming Catholic, a shockingly high amount of people from traditionally Catholic backgrounds are becoming Evangelical Protestants, with Pentecostalism Non-denominationalism being the two most favored denominations. For example, a few years ago Brazil flipped from being a majority Catholic nation to a majority Pentecostal nation.
I'm not sure why these deep rooted Catholics are so drawn to a charismatic deonomiation on the polar opposite of the Christian spectrum. It merits some looking into.
@@benjamingrist6539 It is interesting. I would've thought Catholics would go to Orthodox.
You don't get an equal attention cake every time. You're southern.
These aren’t countries but concentrated cultures mixing with surrounding cultures. It’s not unique to America, but it’s only happening now because America is a fairly new country (especially in its united state) and we’re so big. France, Germany, Spain, and many other nations used to be a collection of many smaller nations and identities before unifying into what they are today. But when they originally unified, they were still a collection of different cultures until over time, they all formed one distinct identity. America can do the same although it will be much harder and take a lot longer given our size.
I would argue that Florida should be counted separately from the Southern identity as they have very different historys from the rest of the south. Florida was only settled beginning in 1920s most of its population coming from the north especially those of more conservative backgrounds, this combined with Caribbean immigrantion, especially from Cuba has led to Florida having a unique culture that is only now beginning to collase. If i had describe Florida culture it would be laid back, urban, and agnostic, while being highly conservative fiscally and socially progressive. With Spanish somtimes being more important than English to the point it is influencing the way Floridians speak English.
This is only true of everything south of the panhandle, Pensacola to Jacksonville is very much is very much part of the south from the politics to the accent to architectural style and age of buildings.
Progressivism now seems to be declining in Florida overall. Florida is becoming the new Texas.
Have you been north of Gainesville? The picture you paint doesn't reflect that area.
@@craigbenz4835 I live in North Florida and I would agree the panhandle especially is still very southern, this has more to do with history and geography. In Jax for example the city is slowly turning into something more like Tampa as time goes on. In fact north Florida is like parts of Eastern Germany before the world wars, in that that the rural population was primarily polish but in the urban city's it was german. Most Southerns don't live in city's and the few city's in the south developed to export agricultural products. This, the southern parts of Florida will as time goes on and the state culture fully emerges the Southern population will continue to shrink. As for politics I think Florida position on social issues has more to with how far Dems have pushed the social Issues and the still strong but dying evangelical wing of the Republican party, most people vote Republican in the state to avoid taxes, which is the main reason people from up north retired or moved to Florida.
In regards to Spanish, the only place where Spanish might be used instead of English is Miami, in areas where the hispanic population outnumbers the English speaking population. The Spanish influenced accent you're describing is often called the Miami accent for this reason. Not common in the rest of Florida. Now, they say that the more north you go, the more southern it gets, but a more correct correlation would be urban vs rural, as historic southern influence still lingers in rural areas of central Florida, at the very least as far down as Okeechobee.
Always thought of myself as New Englander, but that Metropolitan description has shaken that a bit.
I always tell folks from abroad I'm from Massachusetts-Not-Boston. Far enough away to be different, close enough to be taxed.
Well remember that just like Europe, having a background in one of these nations doesn't mean you're restricted to these areas, or that you don't have a background made up of multiple nations. You can be an ancestrally French man born in Britain, or an Italian with some Austrian ancestry, sometimes the nations overlap and mix, but we can still recognize that they're there.
@@MonsieurDean Well said. My home is conservative, relative to the rest of the area, and for most of my neighbors, I'm in a different Overton Time Zone. I still get along with everyone here, laugh at most of the same jokes, and sneer at similar outsiders (Conneticut & NYC metro).
For me the five most culturally distinct U.S. cities are Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, NYC, and Boston. They are located within the German, Italian, and Irish ethnic belts. However, the first two cities transcend their "German-ness."
Boston is a clean European style American city meanwhile Massachusetts is just murica with slightly higher density
He did say New England extends to parts of Massachusetts and New York IN THE VIDEO, though! You can stay a New Englander in peace...
What I learned from this video is that America is filled with handsome, picturesque white men.
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed this! All of 'em looked to be by the same artist, so maybe Monsieur Z got a volume discount? ;)
USA, Brazil, Russia, China and Persia are what I call 'Imperial Nations'. They are big countries made of several nations of similar cultures, but distinct enough. They are distinct, but prefer being the same country.
I’d call them “Super-National States” Because “Empire” implies a patron/client or ruler/vassal relationship between the involved nations-which you can *argue* for all (cough cough Russia), but all at least claim to disavow. But yeah, the idea that State and Nation ought to align is a fairly modern one, and I’d argue a (well-designed and properly functioning) cosmopolitan federal state can protect the interests of many nations simultaneously and ideally minimize the worst aspects of nationalism, replacing them with a “nationalism” for the common goals of all.
@@IONATVS I like your term, but I think that Empire still fits, because even though the nations don't have a suzerain-vassal relationship inside the main culture group, there is still a force from the state trying to mush together or unify the mindset of their peoples, either by forcing some ideals from a place, or making they share their traits between one another.
Yes almost true except for the fact that China is an ethnostate. Sure, its minority populations number in the millions but Han Chinese are far over 90% of the population, compared to Brazil's 50/50 mix of white and mixed, or America's 55% whites, 13% blacks and the rest latino.
@@exenderlloyd7750 Northern and Southern Han have pretty significant cultural and linguistic differences, and the Tibetan & Uighur peoples are local majorities that very much DO NOT want to be ruled from Beijing. Manchuria and Inner Mongolia have been pretty thoroughly assimilated, but very much in the way Empires always have: by force.
Absolutely fair to call it an Empire, even though it likes to think of itself as a nation-state.
For China and Russia (and Turkey) "empire" fits very well because the main ethnic group uses violence to keep the country united
As a lifelong Californian, Calling any part of California “Texan” or “neo-Texan” is way off. California has 6-10 distinct cultures and regions. Central coast and Jefferson aren’t the same as San Diego, the desert & LA, central valley and the sierras is not the same as the Bay Area. California is its own thing but definitely not Texan or neo-texan lol
I can agree. Being a 4th generation Californian(before that founders of Boston) I can say that California has many sub groups. Almost certainly it's because there are so many biomes. Our family lives in basically all of them. I grew up ranching, others farming. Lived in cities and small towns, coast and interior. I grew up hunting and fishing in the huge Sierra mountains spanning the entire California east. Let me tell you, customs in the mountains are completely different from our cities. Simplistically, one you carry a gun, one you don't. Sitting around a campfire once an old cowboy told me, "As long as you don't sh*t on my front porch I don't care what you do." Ranch life is different from those, but closer to mountain. The desert people are their own thing too. Jefferson State and Lost Coast people are very different. Mountain range separations make a big difference.
You can really gauge it by how much people in one part of California dislike people from another part moving there. In the central Sierras people are generally fine with folks from the valley, up north, or a distance south in the range, but really hate it when folks from the bay area or LA move in.
Lumping Californians all together is already absurd becuase Californians don't even like each other. Like people from Slovang are going to see people from Los Angeles as different people.
You clearly did not see the map to see where he called Neo-Texas. And it is implied Neo-Texas only refers to the Latino area of Texas and Latino was the overcompassing term he chose for the entire zone...
Appalachians where you at?
Over here cringing at his inability to pronounce "Appalachia".
Down here in the Holler, of course. 😉
@@LMXPebble Apple Litch Uh
@@MonsieurDean appa-LATCH-uh
In Appalachia
Texas west of the piney woods is far more close with Appalachia than the Deep South. Texas was basically a colony of Tennessee in the 1820s, our founders are mostly from there and our character and values are much closer. Mississippi feels foreign to us here, Appalachia feels like home.
At the end of the day though, Texas is Texas. I know we say it all the time but it’s true. Hispanics are statistically the most prideful of Texan identity, separating us is inaccurate.
Texas as a state is a bit of a messy area, but I see what you mean.
There's a real cultural difference between American Hispanics (what dean calls "neo-texans") and Tejanos. Tejanos have been here in Texas (Tejas) since the days of the Viceroyalty of New Spain, earlier in fact on the native side of their lineage. Texians (aka Anglos of various cultural persuasions) & Tejanos are two distinct nations who formed the Texan state together in alliance against the tyranny of the Centralist Republic of Mexico under Santa Anna who, among other political figures, shredded the 1824 Constitution of the First Mexican Republic. Some Tejanos get MAD if you dare to call them hispanic. They are specifically and thoroughly Texan.
@@KnoxEmDown exactly. The Hispanic population Texas is just as pridefully Texan as anyone else if not more.
The nation of Hawaii has a well defined official crown prince
I’m Black. I’m from Philadelphia and I noticed that Black people who live in other major US cities function very similarly. I think this is a result of the treatment Black people had to deal with wherever they moved to.
While I agree, I also think I have more in common with a native Hawaiian or white Californian culturally than I do with black people from New England or the South.
Or it could be the fact that most of the population of black Americans are from the South during the Jim crow era, the majority of the black population in the South, moved North, taking their culture and dialects with them, leading to a mono culture.
If you read northern black letters to each other during this time. You would see the northern black americans had a very different culture then the southern based black culture of today.
@austindavis8977 Thomas Sowell talked about this subject many times and wrote many books on it as well
For the most part blacks have a common origin in the south and took their general mannerisms with them when they left for better opportunities outside that region.
Nowadays social media seems to be the great unifying thing between black communities. They all consume the same media and follow the same trends and influencers, so there isn't really much real isolation between them at all.
No. I’m from California. We have completely different cultures in different regions. Life is slower paced on Atlantic Ocean and we’re basically in Mexico/ Japan influenced place
Regions yes, but the internal integration of language, interaction, economic interdependence and shared laws make America and Canada stand alone countries, America is just federal while Canada is confederal. More power to regions sure, but America i still believe is united.
@@23uncbball How would you feel about more Localism and Decentralization and more diverse economic policies implemented by each state?
Example: Some states are more market oriented and others are more government intervention focused.
Aww thats cute. You think Californians are my countrymen?
@@PhyllisLane-xj5uf just saying lmfao, we coloradans effing hate californians
Not even touching on how much language and dialect has diverged in the US, a population speaking the same language, practicing the same laws, and participating in the same economy does not a nation make, once again this is an empire. In Rome you speak Latin, follow Roman law, and pay with government issued denarius, regardless of if you're a Gaul, a Syrian, or a Greek.
@@PhyllisLane-xj5uf SoCal is all business and bad driver stereotype, NorCal is chill as heck, central Cal is where Sacramento, the capital of California exists and is rare to mention when there is LA, San Francisco, Orange Country, San Diego, and to joke, the colony of the Philippines the west coast, the colony of china, Irvine or Anaheim, and the colony of mexico, California, U.S.
1. New Englanders
2. East Coastfolk
3. Southerners, Cajuns, Floridafolk and Creoles
4. Black Belters
5. Greater Appalachians
6. Rust Belters
7. Great Lakesfolk (North Country & Lower Midwest)
8. Upper Midwesterners
9. Greater Rockians/Old West Trailerites
10. Saintslanders (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints)
11. Chicanos, Texans and other Hispanics
12. West Coastfolk
13. Mountain Westerners
14. Navajo, Ute & Hopi
15. Native Hawaiian diaspora
Americans seem to overestimate their regional differences as if most countries did not have that same kind of diversity.
You also seem to assume a nation is necessarily homogeneous in culture and values, which is also not true
The way you present the US resemble to me how some Brazilians perceive their country (mine as well), and in both cases, while it's easy to look at people in other regions of your country and see them as completely different, foreigners would probably not be able to tell you apart
That's probably the reason Germans of different regions did not perceive themselves as a nation before French occupation in the 19th century
From Massachusetts, there is nearly no observable difference culturally between Vermont, New Hampshire and Massachusetts nowadays. They’re one region.
One region? Or one people?
@@MonsieurDean I think what you're missing is how New England works as a larger region. No one is trying to convince you that the White Mountains region is the same as Metro Boston. That's absurd. But politically and historically the White Mountains are tied to Boston and the New England economy in a way that is irrelevant to anything that goes on West of Champlain. There's so much regional history you clearly aren't aware of that is distorting your view of how the northeast works. It's kind of funny how in your assessment and divisions you have done the American thing and divided land based on terrain and aesthetic without taking into consideration local history and family ties.
And no, it's not one uniform region, it's probably more like thirty something regions that all differ in economy, culture, and geography.
I bet you think Bostonians go leaf peeping in the Berkshires. Does the word Kanc mean anything to you?
Ever heard of the Big E? Are you even at all aware of Old Home days or or the strong tradition of fairs in New England?
There's so much that distinguishes New England that you consistently ignore in your videos, and it comes across as you diminishing the people of the United States to aesthetics often caused by climate and economies often caused by federal policies or geography. Even worse is that you sometimes take the racist route and use haplogroups as reason to divide regions. I urge you to go out and talk to strangers. Travel and explore. Really learn the people of the world and what makes them tick. It's so much more amazing than you seem to acknowledge.
What he calls Midwestern I would call Great Lakes, and what he calls Ohioan I would call Midwestern. I tend to think of Ohio or Indiana more when I hear people talk about Midwestern culture than Northern New York or Michigan.
There was one thing he said about the South that puzzles me, though. How are the values of "small government" and "self-sufficiency" socially conservative? Given their anti-authoritarian basis, wouldn't most people call them socially liberal?
@@SeasideDetective2I think a good way to explain it would be they're politically liberal(or, libertarian) and socially conservative.
@@Reubentheimitator6572 I would not use those terms. I think when most people say "socially conservative," they're thinking of old-fashioned attitudes about sex, religion, and similar things. To me, those aren't social issues, but cultural issues. I think of social conservatism as "rich white men maintain their hold on power," which is something to which I'd think anyone who wasn't rich would object - at least in theory. I realize of course, that social issues, as I've defined them above, bleed into both economic issues and cultural issues. But I think it's a tragedy that so many conservative Americans wind up favoring social conservatism because they think it will lead to cultural conservatism, or even that they think the two are one and the same, when that often isn't the case.
Yep - the world of the Great Lakes, north of I-80, is significantly different from the Midwest areas to the south of it.
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The German Americans at the Great Lakes spill into the Northeast and the east coast.
Right. They also skew more Jewish the further east you go.
As a missourian now living in alaska, i am pleased to see that missouri is properly split between its four main parts. The distiction between st louis area, little dixie, and the ozarks is uncanny. Northern missouri i just call iowa.
I think French Louisiana is definitely a nation. We might act like general Southerners a lot, but when push comes to shove we are ethnically and culturally distinct. (Even if its unfortunately being eroded as we speak)
I think it’s precisely the light grey in the south of Louisiana
18:16 A "relatively recent nation"???? You do realize that the Spanish Empire was there LOOOONG before the area was captured by anglo Americans, right? The vast majority of Latinos in those areas are NOT immigrants, they're ancestors were there hundreds of years before the USA was even born. Even so, you can't define the are as being a Latino area, as it hovers closer to a 50/50 split between Latinos and anglos, and despite all the bullshit you see on the news, we all get along pretty well and are frequently intermarried. That's why the US southwest is generally opposed to a lot of racist policies coming out of conservative circles.
I’m from the Netherland, and you can become Dutch, just like you can become American. And people that choose to become Dutch are attracted to the culture. Americans will have different cultures in their country, like all other countries have. But they are all Americans, with some very specific American traits.
Say it with me Monsieur: App-a-LATCH-aa.
its app-a-lay-sha
I said it both ways just to mess with you specifically.
@@monkeybluntas an APP A LATCH AN I must say, you’re wrong.
@@monkeybluntif you say app-a-laycha, I'll throw an apple atcha
@@MonsieurDean Ummm, achtuallly you are supposed to yodel the middle part.
I'm Argentina but this year I've had the opportunity to visit and spend some time in Atlanta, North Carolina, Tennessee, New Jersey, and New York and honestly, the differences I saw between all those regions track quite well with what the video shows. Atlanta is basically the spiritual capital of African Americans, what with MLK's house and pretty much everyone being black and whatnot, North Carolina is very distinct from Tennessee and NY/NJ but you can still see both old Anglo elements but also the "Metropolitan" pockets of Italian and Hispanic surnames especially in places like Raleigh. The Appalachians are functionally their own country, I had the opportunity to visit very "backwoods" parts of the state and smaller towns, and while you can tell the rural areas are worse-for-wear I did also see a very distinct identity that doesn't show any signs of being replaced any time soon. New York and New Jersey are basically one big city-state with just about every race and ethnicity you can imagine, but especially in New Jersey you could tell the particular Ellis Island elements had a lot of presence, save in areas like, say, Harlem or Palisades Park's Koreatown.
Another kinda tangential note but I could also notice a specific white American "look", like especially those of Anglo-Germanic descent, but also some Italians have specific phenotypic characteristics that make them look different from whites from Europe or Argentina, can't quite put my finger on it but they're very square-faced.
Also, another tangent, I can see the African-American nation becoming some sort of Jewish/Gypsy-like minority, primarily urban and culturally influential but also very "closed" and inward-looking, probably because of the "one drop rule" cultural idea Americans have, I remember meeting this girl in Tennessee who, while you could tell she was mixed, would've been considered white in Argentina and probably parts of Europe to, but according to herself and all her friends she was black because her grandmother was black.
How people identify themselves is completely subjective, with america their is a common culture and language, and a marginal desire for succession; why would a people with all that in common, break apart over religious or ethnic that those people don't even divide themselves by?
Monsieur Z is not talking about secession, just that American is an Imperial/Federal identity and local identity (at least in the past was more prominent) Sadly Globalization and Cosmopolitanism has made things more homogeneous, but local cultures still exist, you just got to find it. I'm a Localist, but reject secession.
Northern Wyoming has a sizable population of people descended from Polish coal miners that arrived in the 1900’s. Even today, there’s a ton of people in Sheridan with last names like Jolovich (Americanized “Jałowicher” I think,) Legerski, Kawulok, etc. Some people there even still speak the language.
You should do a video on Mormon colonization. The Mormon corridor stretching from Mexico all the way into Canada has left a mark even where the Mormons abandoned
Need to do a video on the native nations in the USA
Some new ones about your analysis of the Heartlander Volk. The story of my people doesn't only come from the Volga region but also the Black Sea region and the German settlements there. What also you forgot to mention, despite a large Lutheran population amongst the Germans from Russia population it was roughly divided in half between Catholic and Lutheran, with a lean slightly towards the Catholic religious side like my family. Also us Germans from Russia tend to be on the swarthier side because most of our extraction originally came from the Alpine German population in the southern German states such as Bavaria with my family. So often Germans from the Great Lakes will have lighter phenotypes than the German population on the Great Plains. Also because our population received persecution within Russia, we were more hearty add withstanding persecution during the first and second world war in America, so many of our people refuse to Anglicize properly by maintaining our surnames in the original German and cap German as many of our household languages up until the boomer generation where that generation destroyed a lot of traditional culture they also destroyed our ethnic distinction and refused to carry on the German tradition. Even today with our dialect of English that we speak in the Great Plains if you know how to look you can see the German influence upon the English spoken within the area. An elite cadre of our population in Gen Z are even re-adding or identity as Germans again above being Americans. Even I being in the military will always call myself German and/or Bavarian and just use American as a nationality term. I have also met a lot of these German-Americans in the armed forces starting to re-identify with their German ethnic identity over a broader American identity.
The Midwest is Amerikaner land.
I dont want to read all of that, but I agree with you
I’m German American yet live in the south. Someday I want to go to the midwest to help revive the German American identity.
I have lived in America all my life but I consider myself Russian. I think that more people should identify with their ancestors and traditional culture rather than with their citizenship status of a government that has dubious representation of interests. I think that ethnic identity is more important than citizenship or government identity.
@@konstantinrebrov675 I agree whole heartily
America being an Empire is indeed true for different reasons including the whole 'anyone can be American purely from believing in an ideal or two' thing.
America is a *huge* continent.
Plus, anything/anyone American is from the
Continent of America!
@@CaptainAmerica001 There is no "American continent" just like there is no Euro-African or Afro-Asiatic continent. Being able to walk from Egypt to Jordan doesn't make it one continent.
@@AllTheUrbanLegends
America definitely is a continent & an American is from the Continent of America.
If not, what is America?
@@CaptainAmerica001 "America is one continent" was an imperial project that is only still believed by countries in Latin Europe and some of their former colonies in Latin America. The Americas are, geologically, 3 continents. If you want to tell me that Europe and Asia are one continent I'm with you but Canada and Uruguay are not on the same continent.
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America is a continent & an American is from the Continent of America.
Why is America not a single continent?
For the build up to this video being about utahism, I’m surprised it had the shortest airplay lol 😅 I’m glad you mentioned the danish settlers all the same that usually gets overlooked
I feel like Mormondom is already so well defined and legitimate that it needs no further introduction.
Most Americans live in what could be considered "megapolises," that is, closely located cities spread over multiple states that are tightly integrated due to continuous transportation, residential, and commercial services. These areas have more unified identities not just within themselves but also with other ultra-urbanized locations. This zone-culture subsumes the majority of the black nation acting as a protective sheath ending at Alabama border. The FUN thing about this is that these areas are growing along the lines of highways and are only halted by mountains and swamps.
Great video. They don't teach this in schools. I am an army veteran. When I went to basic training I have the chance to see these differences because the army mixes people from all over the US. Even so, we were able to work together. Thank you.
Can you do a video on the uk riots as a Brit I feel we are having very similar issues with America on identity and why all the cultures are clashing. Whether this will happen in the US as well would love to see a scenario about it.
I might just!
Ohh trust me once trump gets arrested which he will because of the lawfare in the country shits gonna go down jan6th on steroids idk im staying out of it but yea 2024 election gonna suck both ways
@@MonsieurDean thank you the only way we can save ourselves is having the canzuk union cooperation with the US especially Trump being very pro Anglo sphere
@@josephmaycock9the difference is and sad reality is... the us is largely split in 2, the difference is one section is contained to large cities and the other controls the rest of the us. Just look at us voting by counties. Most of the us is red id say 90% is. The blue sections are completely surrounded. The issue there is, the red sections control all the oil, all the farming, all the resources. In a "Civil war" type situation the war would be won by team red simply because they have the resources, not to mention red areas typically work together and have a greater sense of community, they also have the vast majority of the weapons. Team blue might have the numbers but they don't have the community aspect and they dont have resources. It's hard to win anything when you're not united and try to strike up different factions.
I don't think it'd take long for team red to win. All they have to do is refuse to send resources to the cities and it's gg well played... they'd have to rely heavily on imports from other countries IF they could strike up some form of diplomacy with them and even then they'd have to negotiate those terms almost instantly because if you have no food you can't survive for very long. With a collapsed economy and 0 resources there's nothing to trade for, so who would bail them out?
I hear this "American Civil war" thrown around by people who typically come from large cities and are not truly aware of the totality of the power of the red areas. There wouldn't be one, cut off the supply chain and it's over within a month. It's easy to hold major choke points that all major cities have and just starve people out. The in fighting within the city is their biggest weakness and they'll take themselves out while red areas would work together and continue on with life. Just look at the criminal records for large cities vs rural communities. Once there's no food on the shelves the gangs will be kicking in doors and stealing from their own team lol.
That's why it's impossible for one side to win. Culture and resources. That's just on a civilian level, I think if the military split it'd be even more lopsided, I just look at the kids today and see a large number of one team not being pro military and the other team being the ones who are enlisting.
As far as the uk goes idk, whoever controls the resources will win. Sadly I think yall are going the wrong direction and the team that'll win is the radical anti-uk population. Your gov wants it that way for some reason.
15 nations you say? Combine two of them into one and we can return to the Betsy Ross Flag. 😎👍
P.S. No dividing up Pennsylvania, in fact it should expand.
Localism>>>Nationalism>>>Globalism
Nah just send the African one to Liberia and adopt the Fallout flag
If any merger would be possible it would be between the southern nation and the Appalachian Nation
UTAHISM NOT GLOBALISM
@@MonsieurDean I think they mean "greater than," not "pointing."
Combining 2 would leave you with 14, you'd have to combine 3.
I am a huge nerd for anthropology, geopolitics, theology and cultural history and I just have to tell how amazing this video was. I was nerding out describing it to my roommate. The pictures you included to show the general ethnic and racial heritage of each region *chef's kiss*. It was well structured, well paced, well narrated, engaging. Just can't tell you how much I enjoyed your video. Time to go through your whole video list
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The Arizona portion of the Southern Nation should be split into the SoCal and Mormon/Utah regions. They are both much more fitting, especially historically
This is probably what the United States should look like.
I am a Russian immigrant, brought to the US by parents when I was 4 years, and I have lived here all my life. Now I am 26, and this is the first time I've ever heard of such nuances. I am surprised at how little I know about this country. Very informative video.
Welcome to our American melting pot. 🫠
Love the addition of the images; we all have an inner chad lol
It pains me that so many in the New World fail to see the futility of the "Propositional" Nation. A nation is not a checklist of values, it is a folk, a tribe, a clan, a tradition, not some stupid cringe dot point on a notepad. Case and point I wholly reject this stupid and cringe idea of ever being "Australian" no, no I'm not "Australian", and I was never asked if I wanted to be Australian, so be Australian I shall not. What I am, what no ruling class can ever rob from me, is New South Welsh. We are the true men and women of New South Wales. Reject the stupid and cringe Australianisms of our Canberran ruling class. Embrace your true selves as New South Welshmen, and Welshwomen.
This is why I refuse to vote for the cringe platitudes of One Nation. Because we are not "One Nation" and we never will be. What we need here is something like a New South Welsh Secession party to secede out of this crusty bunghole island. Or New South Welsh First Union Party.
Exactly. The most significant identity comes from blood. Ideas can be changed on a whim, but ideas do not change what a person is.
@@somehowstillhere8766 The idea of a single federated Australian Commonwealth only made sense due to the shear homogeneity of the population up until about the 1970's and to a a degree our ruling class must have known this because following the 1967 Referendum to incorporate remote Aboriginal communities under the Races Power of the Constitution, 1967 marks a significant demarcation point between the Australia that had been growing organically since Federation and a much more top-down prescriptive version to try and "Wokify" the idea of being Australian to a hippy boomer liberal audience. This fact has only become more and more noticeable with time and in my view can't continue to be brushed under the rug anymore. While we may once have been "Aussies" the reality is we really aren't anymore. We've grown into something else, something more transcendent and real. That being New South Welsh.
@@Peak_Aussieman same here in the US. non-European immigration after 1965 and increasingly pushing the "nation of immigrants" idea transformed the concept of American to be meaningless. More and more race is the most coherent way to define people because it is something real versus malleable ideas.
@@somehowstillhere8766 True, compound this by the abolition of the Immigration Restriction Act and due to Australia's small population which had become accustomed to on-demand contraception a few years prior, and the stage was set for a serving of one dead civilisation down under. What are we? What does "being Australian" mean today? It means being a drunken hoon waiting for his next Centrelink money so he can spend it all on grog and cheap Thai massages. Another reason to grow up and be New South Welsh instead. Be New South Welsh instead. It's better that way.
Why regionalism? What does a sydney-sider have to do with someone from lithgow or mudgee, let alone broken hill? Are the people from tweed heads and the gold coast all that different? What matters is shared British ancestry and tradition. Lines drawn on a map only mean so much, and state borders can change at the drop of a hat. Also why bother with secession when NSW's biggest city is becoming a Chinese/Indian shithole anyway?
11:16 Jake Paul?
Literally him
Jake Paul-Mountain Man
2:32 "Didn't even come from the same parts of England" then shows people from England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland.
This is probably the number one reason the national political parties need to be broken up. It's literally impossible for the national political parties to represent everyone, or even a majority, heck even a plurality.
I've recently moved to Utah from Ohio, and honestly the cultural differences are massive (and no, not just because of Mormonism lol). I could talk for hours about all the differences, but it's amazing because I always felt like a complete outcast in Ohio, whereas here I fit right in very naturally.
Although the naming convention can be debated, I think the “Montanans” are a good way of understanding the cultural context of the Rocky Mountain region.
From my personal experience (I live in Oregon) it helps to explain the differences in political ideology between western and eastern Oregon. The developed urban regions such as the Portland metro area and the I-5 corridor tend to be more liberal and secular, while the more rural eastern region (as well as pockets in southern Oregon or parts of the Willamette Valley) tend to be more conservative and religious.
Correction: these are not fifteen American nations, these are fifteen American tribes. We are one nation, and dividing us into tribal identities as if they cannot be one nation, at least not without the scary threat of imperialism, means you have reduced all humanity to an inescapably tribal fate, because America is about the closest thing to a healthy multi-tribal identity that mankind has seen. Like the analysis, but not the determinist framework.
Nah mate the Balkans & Northern Ireland & the UK are the most healthy multi-cultural places on earth. They keep their distinct cultures & jokingly hate each other (& also actually hate each other but that's less now than it was).
I am Joking the actual best multu-cultural state would likely be either Switzerland or Italy or France or Germany which have all despite vast cultural diversity keeped regional groups believing in a unified country. Switzerland is split between the Germans, French & Swiss (not sure what to call the group Romash or something is the name they are a distinct group with some being in well other countries like Italy), France is split between the North & south with many smaller sub-groups across. Germany is a collection of a few hundred small groups who joined together to become German but they are heavily split between the South & North. Actually most of Europe is like this. Most of the world isn't a single culture the only examples that'd be true would be places like um well I think maybe a city state or two. Andorra & Lichenstien likely because they are so small. Basically cultures develop quite quickly & this guy says the US has only 15 I'd guess its a few hundred by the size of it. The UK for instance has such diverse cultures between a few cities or even parts of a city. Belfast for instance is very distinct with East belfast being very religious & diverse however quite poor due to the working class who built ships along with a large middle class, West belfast I don't really know but I think its mainly poor & religious as its mainly suburbs. North Belfast to Newtonabbey is mainly protestant & highly religious & quite poor. South Belfast is very mixed & again religious with it not being really poor. But you go to a town just outside of Belfast & you'll see a vastly different culture. I live in a small village & the culture of the villages around is drastically different because of how diverse Europe is. Its just Europe is somehow gained the right nationalism to keep itself together for a while but every so often a successionist movement gains steam & a chance of a new country happens (I say new but more like old as well the whole of Europe used to be different countries),the 80s saw eastern europe become what it is with a bunch of splits. the 90s saw the rise of the Balkan states, the early 2000s saw a few more balkans states appear. the 2010s saw Catalonia, Scotland & a few other places try to break free. If a region exists in the whole of Europe it's likely a small succesionist movement exists that might one day grow as large as the Basque or Catalonian or Scottish or Welsh or Irish or so on.
As a Mormon (or rather a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints), I videos like this fill my heart with the pride of Deseret (despite the fact that I've lived almost none of my life in Utah).
The southeastern coast of Florida including Miami was settled by people from New England and New York beginning in the 1870s, and they have been migrating there ever since. While it's famous today for having a lot of Spanish speakers especially from Cuba, it's culturally more like NYC to the point that it gets called 6th borough and most of the rest of Florida considers it not part of the real South.
Having these differences, is what makes us a World Power, imo..
Silicon valley produces Tech.. Texas and The flatlands of MT can produce oil.. (and other places)
Economic zone in the Northeast..
Losts of farmland/Lumber in PNW..
Makes us very hard to de stable..
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Why does the Appalachian portrait look so much like Jake Paul 💀
Jake Paul - Mountain Man
Eh, I get what you’re saying but according to the definition of nation, the United States still qualifies as one nation. We’re not different countries and multiculturalism doesn’t necessarily equate to different nations. If the commonality between Americans is a belief in freedom and the constitution, then it is what it is. Saying, “That’s not how that works” isn’t really enough in my opinion to justify dividing people into unnecessary groups when everyone knows America is a land of multiple cultures.
According to this video, almost every country on earth is actually multiple nations under an empire. The Tibetan people of China, the Siberian people of Russia, the indigenous people of Canada and Australia, the United Kingdom. Almost every country on this planet has different groups of people and cultures under one rule. This is kinda redundant and pointless to talk about
Also worth noting the reason the German settlers are so different from one another is also because they came from different German speaking countries. It wasn't until the mid to late 19th century these different countries would merge together to become Germany.
So true!
Germany was governmentaly divided into different states, but was considered a nation since at least the 1100's. The Holy Roman Emporer was also usually King of the Romans (any Imperial citizen) or King of Germany.
Even as late as the 1940's in Frankenmuth, Michigan the locals would talk to grandpa, whose family was from Prussia, but not grandma whose family was from Bavaria.
Jew-Rican from Brooklyn. Metropolitan nation definetly makes a shit ton of sense
I am from Michigan, originally from New York. I notice the cultural differences once I leave Downstate New York.
I'd love a video dividing the US into multiple realistic and functional nations. This video is great for dividing up the American cultures, but most of these wouldn't work as real countries.
I’d say you can probably break the south between North Carolina/Virginia (it feels more suburbanized and has a distinctly more secular feeling as opposed to the rest of the Piedmont lowland areas, you can also note this in election maps where it is basically a border between the urbanized North East and South) and South Carolina along with the remainder of the south.
Virginia is still mostly Southern in identity but her close proximity to the large population of the DC suburbs (NoVA) swing her election map much closer to the center than it would otherwise be.
@@tau-5794 I’m saying the issue is the coasts, if you went down it to about the edge of North Carolina you’d think you were in Delaware.
I would change 2 minor things about this map:
- The Finnish subregion (Copper Country) around the superior should be considered its own distinct area,perhaps since it's more like Scandamerica than the Midwest but more freedealing.
- The border between Montanans & Westerners should be redrawn along the Cascades than the Columbia River, or at least make a subregion that is west of the Columbia but East of the Cascades
Ya, eh.
I was about to get all "them's fighting words" when you described New Englanders as being influenced by Anglo-Canadians across the border, then I realized you meant Quebec, not the Canadian rust belt.
Less Quebec and more Newfoundland, in my opinion...
@@manniking233 naw Newfoundland is settled from the West Country, not East Anglia
@@manniking233 I guess when Georgia was a military colony, Nova Scotia was part of New England.
When I go abroad
I say the state I am from
So you expect everyone to know what you're talking about?
@@FrancisTheBerd do you know where Ohio is
@@thegrumpydragon7601 Yes but not everyone knows about each state
I live in northern Maryland, and I gotta say, my families history is very connected to Baltimore city and while we have lots of black people in Baltimore, I felt most associated with the things you said about the metropolitans.
Baltimore is unique but I really think that it should be included as a subclade in the broader metropolitan region.
From Providence to Baltimore a new Rome on a new shore?
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Its probably way closer to 150 than 15. Even inside my home state of Colorado, it has massive difference from the plains on the east, to the front range(the urban strip on the edge of the mountains going Fort Collins in the north to Pueblo in the south) and then the mountains having massive differences between tourist towns and very rural towns as well.
its true I moved from the Montanan to the Heartland, only 3 hours away and the culture is totally different
7:13 that sketch looks suspiciously familiar lol
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Great work! I would love to see a massive demographic survey of cultural and political values broken down by county. I wonder what ethnic and national boundaries would emerge.
Maybe that'll be a mission for my next trip around the country.
Made this infinitely more complicated than it needs to be. Three nations….urban, suburban, rural. Small states and large states are divided this way.
I’m from Texas (live in Louisiana now though) and honestly Texas could be its own nation. Not just because it was its own for a while but it has its own sort of settlement patterns and culture that stems from the deep south, Appalachia, and later Germans. My ancestors have been in Texas since around the civil war. My dad’s ancestors were Appalachians, primarily Pennsylvania German and Scots-Irish with some Anglo, Dutch and maybe some native mixture, and my mom’s side is more deep southern from Georgia originally, primarily Anglo, Welsh, Highland Scottish and later Texan German. Dad’s ancestor fought for Tennessee’s union regiment and mom’s for Georgia’s confederate militia. Ultimately what I’m yapping about is Texas on its own is a sort of synthesis between Appalachia, the Deep South, and the German migrations. I love content like this, it’s a very interesting way to view America as different nations. It makes a lot of sense really. It’s like our own newer ethnogeneses, similar to our ancestors as well as cousins in Europe had centuries ago.
8:17 Relatively new? Lol you completely omitted the previous presence of Hispanic communities in the Southwest.
Do you think the name *New Mexico* is only because of its border?
Great video like always. Loved the art used here too, looked so cool. Keep it up!
What should someone like me do. I'm definitely of this "Midwestern" nation but I don't feel anything for the label. I feel American, thats how I genuinely feel.
Graham and Greenlee county in Arizona should be part of Deseret/Utah culture.
Southern Arizona also wasn’t accurate whatsoever
I love these American Nations videos. This provides much needed cultural context and nuance that is necessary to understand why we don't/can't always get along.
As long as two people are part of the same union, their history cannot be totally different, and the longer they are bound together- I used the word "bound" on purpose- the more similar their history will become, despite the differences of circumstances in their founding.
Pennsylvania has such a rich different culture even within the state itself.
You have the amish counties where its like going back in time, you have Philadelphia which is ENTIRELY different, and then you have up towards erie which is like the south but in the north. Its such a strange state.
Even Harrisburg and Lebanon feel entirely different from anywhere else in the state.
I by and large rejected the idea of full on nations but they have more in common with regions. Also you mispronounced Appalachian for the area you showed.
Another good video. I would have probably placed the western Hispanic culture as distinct from the Texan one. I'm not sure he Montanans extend all the way to Southern CA. The westerners seems pretty accurate and there is indeed similarities with the New Englanders as many people from that region settled that area.
You should do a battle royal video with this map
That'd be fun
Nah, leave it to the HOI4 TH-camrs.
On the topic of New England it’s really not a minor bleed over into Massachusetts I feel New England starts in Massachusetts it’s the center of the New England identity while as a mass hole myself I share way more experiences with people in Maine new Hampshire Vermont Rhode Island and Connecticut then anywhere else in the us
Hey. I world proposed one major change to your proposed division. I have lived on the North Shore of Massachusetts the majority of my life. If you were to separate New England from the rest, I would propose cutting MA in half. The Eastern half, which has more in common with your proposed New England, and the Western half has much in common with New York. You could further subdivide the Eastern Half just south of Boston. The Cape (Cape Cod) and Islands are an odd mix, but them and Rhode Island would work. Connecticut is already, unofficially, a suburb of New York. Just my two cents worth.
As a Cascadian, from the left coast, I would prefer you to use that term, rather than westerner. Westerners live in that empty quadrant to the immediate east. I think some of them would now prefer to have their territory named Greater Idaho. Personally, I notice a distinct change in attitudes, when I travel about 100 km (60 miles) from the Pacific Ocean.
I would say these are more accurately describes ethnicities rather than full on nations. If These were full on nations they would not be able stand on their own two feet.
I'm from the empire of Central pinewood
7 minutes into this, as a sociologist with multiple ethnic roots, I'm so far intrigued by the accuracy of this analysis. Well done!
I was born in the new England Nation and lived there for a couple years But moved to the metropolitan Nation lived there for a couple years then moved to the southern Nation lived there for only one year then moved back to the metropolitan Nation a couple months ago it's a long story but so far I would say I Identify with the new England Nation the most by the way I'm only 13 Awesome vid
For particulars on the borders in the state of Ohio, I’d suggest looking at the line from the old Connecticut Western reserve. North of that line, earliest immigration came from New Englanders, followed later by the Germanic peoples. We’ve got some high concentrations of Amish and Mennonite communities in northeast Ohio and Northwest Pa. South of it the major immigration came through Virginia and is mostly Appalachian, especially along the border with West Virginia. I live just north of the line and you can tell the cultural shift once you get a few miles south of it. Even in rural areas you can tell your south of the line (mostly because the density of confederate flags increases exponentially). That said though it feels really weird disconnecting Cleveland from other parts of northeast Ohio. I really don’t notice much cultural change between the lake shore and inland personally , beside the obvious differences that occurs between rural and urban areas.
And while I’m just saying something, I think it’d be better to use the term of nations to describe these identities rather than country since at least to me country implies some kind of governance ability, while nation is more associated with human identity
I have lived in different parts of the US all my life, which is why I view myself as an American. I was born in New York, and now live in Florida. I have also lived in Virginia, Illinois, and Michigan. This is why I'm a mix and don't consider myself a New Yorker or Floridian.
To get a complete picture you need to include Canada and Mexico. There is a lot of bleed over across the borders.
Whats strange is I’ve noticed prevalent midwestern culture in west tennessee, which is apparently in appalachia. German last names, midwestern accent, maybe we could do a more thorough look at the cultures of the U.S. and make a better map someday.
It's easier to maintain an imperial identity when that empire doesn't squash, but celebrates your local identity too.
Being from Orlando originally with a Nicaraguan Father who grew up in Miami, I feel Central Florida and Metro Miami have a lot in common with the Metropolitan Nation, after all, both regions wete primarily built by people from the Metropolitan region originally
The only difference is that Metro Miami feels more like a blend between the Metropolitan Nation and Latin America under a Cuban influence, whereas Southwest Florida feels like a blend between the Metropolitan Nation and the various Midwestern nations, and Central Florida a blend between the Metropolitan, Southern White, and African-American nations