Honda Talon 1000x-4 Live Valve Review - Dave's Impressions
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ต.ค. 2024
- After 2 weeks and multiple rides in the Talon, it's time for Dave to give his thoughts on the Talon X-4 Live Valve. He spent time in the Rock, in the sand and on some hard pack trails. So after all that, what did he think? Watch the vid to find out.
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Finally a channel giving an HONEST REVIEW! This is amazing content!!!!!
Thanks man! Me and Dave definitely don’t see eye to eye on this one.., 😜 -Joe
Come on Joe. We're still friends right?😬
-Dave
LOL
Hahaha! Yeah buddy! If I was buying a machine hoping it was someone else’s favorite rig, I’d be in an X3 or RZR and probably be wearing white framed sunglasses while shedding the dunes brah! The truth is, I recognize it’s flaws, have some plans to improve on them and most importantly, I absolutely love it! -Joe
Deranged Off-Road Lol, 😂
Hey guys I just wanted to say your channel is very helpful I’m totally new to the side by side thing I just purchased my very first one I got a 2020 tyrex LE love it so far!!! Keep up the content very helpful
Great purchase! You won’t go wrong with that machine it holds up great. -Garrett
Has anything on that talon broke yet?
Nothing yet. $1700 miles in. I did pop some plastic off the bottom of the rear fender dragging it on rocks. Rock sliders are on the list but I may go with full skids that wrap up around the bottom of the rig. -Joe
@@DerangedOffRoad thank I’m gonna sell my pioneer and buy a talon.Any advise.
First of all your running it with the wrong size tires on it so the transmission is not going to work properly and shift at the correct timing. Thus could have an affect on all of your complaints.
Was there a sport mode on this talon?
Yes
I own the same unit with 30" tires. Wish you would have made this video a few months ago. I concur with all your findings. Looking to sell my Talon and put a deposit on the new Speed UTV. Sold myself on the Talon because of the DCT, in hindsight proper clutching on a CVT you shouldn't have belt issues.
Hey DVE, thanks for your unbiased opinion. I was really considering the X-4 live valve but after Ray Horvath Productions experience with the induction issue and how Honda handed it I started to wonder if this was truly the machine for me. The DCT was a big reason for my consideration but I feel that anyone with some mechanical skill given the need and with a little pre-ride inspection could eliminate a blown belt and with practice and the proper tool kit and preparation could minimize the frustration of changing a belt on the trail. I think I may change my focus to a cvt machine. Thanks to everyone at DOR for the time, energy and effort that you put into these videos I know it aint easy! I think now I may go back to my original choice with Polaris XP 4 1000, really like the Dynamix and the ride command but not sure if I'm willing to pay the price. Again, thanks for sharing.
thats a good review thanks. trying to get a 4 seater and this review helps...
Glad it was helpful!
I was debating on getting an r livevalve, but I'm thinking it might be better getting a r nonlive and adding a rear mount tire rack to help with the bucking
Awesome review, thanks for being honest.
I'm excited for the Talon R live valve.
Yes we’re as well!
Thanks again for an honest opinion and Fun video. What I hear and not only from you guys is all of the machines factory setups on the shock/spring are not good. Sounds like I'll be sending the the shocks from our new XRC to Shock Therapy before long!
It's true. Almost every machine rides too rough.
I bought a live valve Honda last week. It’s super frustrating that you cannot take them for a test drive, I would drive across state lines to drive a couple different models around on the trails.
What are your early impressions? Suspension can definitely be improved but in spite of that, I love my X4. -Joe
Deranged Off-Road this is my first side x side. I’ve actually never even driven one before I bought it ... ( I couldn’t wait for the quarantine to lift so I could go rent one...) 😬. I love the machine. It seems plenty fast, I enjoy talking it sideways on the corners. The overall interior and exterior to me seem better than the Polaris or the Maverick. I’m running up on 70 miles on the machine, so far from the time I’ve driven it I really enjoy it.
Awesome! I’ve really enjoyed mine as well. I also enjoy getting loose in the corners and the talon makes that happen when you want it to better than most. It’s a great machine for the majority of people. -Joe
Awesome video. Good information.
Good honest opinion. Maybe add some little jumps next time to really test suspension to see how it reacts.
Hey Joe can I take care of that one?
-Garrett
Deranged Off-Road as long as you can afford the deductible! 😜
Done!
im watching this video as i sit on the side of a some dune trails in a rzr xp turbo 1000 with a blown belt and no extra.😭😭😭😭
That’s not good!
Another good, honest review. You guys are doing a great job on this comparison series. You know that any Honda guys that watch this are going to tear you a new one... LOL Joe might actually agree with you about the suspension after doing some riding in the KRX.
Ha ha! That's the first thing Joe said when he watched this. So far no negative Nancy's! Waiting patiently for a KRX-4.
Great review Dave! Very honest and informative.
what windshield was in the talon i like the little bottom vents on full windshield. great video!
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👍 -Garrett
It would’ve been kinda funny to see Joe’s reaction to your comments during the video.
Thanks for doing these videos, I can’t imagine dropping my machine off at a friends house knowing they were going to drive it without me around 🤣
Yeah for sure, but we have all been friends for over 20 years. So we have no problem telling each other how it is. 😃
But the big question is...
Is there any SxS that ISN'T overpriced?!
No
How did the counseling for Dave go? He needs presentation work. People don't want a sales pitch, but they don't want "Eh... it's OK." either. How was the transmission on the climb? "Eh... a little jumpy on the slow stuff." What does that mean exactly?Feedback on Live Valve was more meaningful - and good recommendation on saving the coin for an aftermarket (better) setup. Perhaps incorporate some rating scale numbers and criteria into your review. Give us a frame of reference.
Good news....I found a therapist who also teaches public speaking classes down at the University🙄
@@DerangedOffRoad Apologies for the honest feedback, if that was not well received. Please substitute with the following: "Great job Dave! Perfect delivery of an informative and mesmerizing review. Please keep them coming."
I owne this same 1000x4 still have the Oem wheels and tires. What is your opinion on making it wider with spacers and offset wheels?
I’m think of going with 31x10R15
What size trailer is that please
14x7 👍 -Garrett
@@DerangedOffRoad buying a talon this week..trailer is 12.5 ..thinking going to get custom to bring her home?
Loving your videos. Sand hallow on my list!
it'll fit on 12.5. I used a 12' for a few months before I put 32's on. -Joe
@@DerangedOffRoad thank you sir..great video. Can't wait to get the talon and would love to do crown king with you guys when the weather breaks
Think I would probably buy a Maverick Sport Max if I where going to get a 4 seater. I may consider a Talon but I don’t care for Honda as much. Honda guys look at it as they don’t have a belt and think that makes the transmission better. You can look at it coming from the other way though, and say I want the weakest place to be the belt. That way a belt keeps the pressure off the internal transmission parts and when something does fail, I would much rather replace a 200 dollar belt than be tearing apart a transmission to replace gears or synchros. Just my 2 cents had both Honda and Kawasaki ATVs.
Good points!
If a belt fails on a day of riding you can be back at it in 45 minutes. I'm not sure I'd want it any other way. It gives me confidence when off road to know that virtually anything can break and at worst I can limp home.
That’s a big if. The trans in the Talon has been VERY reliable. There has been issues with the sub trans due to operator error or improperly adjusted shift cable though and in those cases, you still have high gear. I’ll start believing this argument when I start hearing about Talons needing to be towed home on the trail. At this point, I’ve heard of ZERO examples... - Joe
@@DerangedOffRoad good point also. I think for me it's probably in my mind but adds to my confidence.
Deranged Off-Road I can agree there Joe my comment was just that in the event that something did go wrong the cost involved would be significantly higher than replacing a belt. The reason I say this is I had a 420 rancher that would slip slightly in between 3rd and 4th gear. It would rev then bog then take off a lot like a clutch going bad in a manual transmission car. It was after warranty I had less than 1k miles on it and I just had to live with it because I didn’t want to tear my new machine apart and couldn’t afford to fix it at the time. I ended up selling it and I guess that’s where I get my stance on this at. I do like Honda’s now days I just pick the CVT over the DCT. This was also many years ago when the electronic shift was new. I’m sure they have it perfected.
yep, I think the Kawasaki is definitely priced right. I saw one advertisement for like 16K, but I dunno right now you could sell me anything for 1/4 of that price.
I have seen the KRX advertised for $14,895 from one of the AZ Ride Now stores! That’s an amazing value I think. 👍😎
I love Dave! I especially think he is just the right amount of tall. 😂😂 Another great video guys. Marv 👍😎
Again with the short jokes....what are we going to do with you Marv!
-Dave
Nothing Dave nothing that was funny 😂😂😂 -Garrett
Did you have the suspension on sport or comfort?
Shock Therapy!
May I ask how big of a trailer you have there?
Desert Speed Shock Tuning is the BEST!! JMO
You have too many facts incorrect,
Oh yeah, how is that? Please share which ones are incorrect.