Top 10 WORST Game of Thrones Costumes - S1-7
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- In this episode, we list the Top 10 WORST Game of Thrones Costumes Seasons 1-7 and doesn't include any season 8 costumes (although I wouldn't have anything to add from the final season) Thank you to all of the Costume CO viewers who participated in the Twitter and TH-cam survey.
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Gggggilly. Not Jilly. Great video, though.
The Tarly women's dresses look like they were designed to be rented out for community theater productions of Romeo and Juliet.
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lol painful truth
Wasn't gilly's dress supposed to be a bit too small though? I thought that was the whole gag in that scene...
They looked exactly like Regency dresses. The sleeves, the high waist. In fact I was surprised none of the historical references were mentioned at all.
Anneke, We'll have to agree to disagree on that.
While I agree that Cersei's new queen look isn't anywhere near as pretty as her previous looks, I think the lack of color and beautiful hairstyles works within the story. Before season 6, Cersei had to use her beauty to manipulate powerful men. Now she is in charge. She doesn't need her looks anymore. Her style is also intentionally masculine and an homage to Tywin, because Westeros is a society that associates femininity with weakness. The biggest complaints that I have with the new look are that the more structured dresses make the fit issues a lot more obvious and that a lot of the details on the black dresses get lost because of the dark lighting (though this was a problem for all of the characters in season 7).
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I know this is the tv show but in the books in cersei's chapters she would think about how much she despised wearing mourning clothes and blacks and that she prefers to look as regal and as Lannister-like as possible in colours like red and gold
lovemyipod9, I agree with your assessment of book Cersei, but I also think that book and show Cersei are at very different points in their character arc and that book Cersei might change her fashion choices in the future.
good insight on cersei
Cersei was forced to look Traditional, regal and feminine. Her personality busted out when tommen died and she could finally drop the act. She's been the pawn of men for so long, she is going G I JANE on the red keep.
I feel like there should be a shout out to Rhaegar's wig.
I hated his wig! I can't blame Clapton for that however, because it falls under the hair/makeup department. :)
I think there should be a shout out to the casting of Rhaegar all together.
Romy'sRoots biggest disappointment ever. I think they casted less striking actors for r+l because they didn’t want anyone competing with j+d. Rhaegar should have been better looking than Jaime and Lyana was almost as beautiful as cersei
It’s a silver mop!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It wouldn’t surprise me if they reused the wig Harry Lloyd wore when he played Viserys Targaryen and put it on Wilf Scolding who played Rhaegar Targaryen.
The white wig was probably made based on Harry Lloyd’s head shape and did what they could to make it passably fit on Wilf Scolding.
Wigs are very expensive and if they used real human silver white hair then it must have been almost cost prohibitively expensive. It wouldn’t make sense to make a whole new wig for a character that appears only briefly in one episode.
I miss old Cersei with her long blond hair and red dresses
Me too!
She was beautiful😍
Same
She's gonna have a red dress in Season 8
@@boejurrow9 she's not a red head
Natalie Dormer could pull off a trash bag.
I honestly didn't think much about the dress at the time - Natalie rocked that ugly thing LOL
Natalie Dormer managed to look regal and classy in that burrito gown.
Well if anyone can pull it off, Natalie can!
you could stick dormer in dahm near anything and she'd make it look like its part of her master plan
Rome Blanchard i thought it looked more like a ice cream cone
Thing is, if they had just cut down the opening by a few inches so that it didn't rise above her shoulders/collarbone, and made it fit better around her body, it would have been a cool dress.
If i recall Cersei had a similar dress (obviously in a different color)
I was sure who was copying who.
I liked the choice to have Cersei constantly wearing black to show the mourning of her children, something women often did in history and would sometimes keep up for years, but I wish the actual dresses were more historical looking. The one she wears when the Great Sept blows up is good but the others look too modern.
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know this is the tv show but in the books in cersei's chapters (i think it was around after joffrey died) she would think about how much she despised wearing mourning clothes and blacks and that she prefers to look as regal and as Lannister-like as possible in colours like red and gold
@@malikparah915 But books Cersei is in a completely different point of her arc compared to show Cersei.
I don't think Cersei will be in black colours for Season 8.
@Not Alfie She is in a different stage. In books,Cersei just went trough her walk of atonement. Show Cersei is way past that.
Dorne deserved so much better.
Totally agree Romy!
The fanart of their costumes was amazing! It was like a weird cross between Egyptian, Moorish and ancient Persia.
My favourite storyline in the books 😭😭
I have to say I love the 'fancy' off the shoulder gowns like Myrcella wore and the Sandsnakes wore while sending Myrcella off.
Those were very pretty.
What about Euron Greyjoy's dreadful rock n' roll pirate outfit?
Yeah, it should have been on the list.
You mean Jared Let Himself Go ?!?
Am I mistaken or was Euron Greyjoy wearing an eyepatch in the books?
@@rainluna9765 Yes, he was.
How dare you.
I wouldn't say that Bernardette copied Cersei, but I think Cersei made them wear that exact attire (all the handmaidens) and also made them cut their hair out of jealousy. She had her hair cut so she probably minded the women she finds to be inferior to have nice full grown hair.
I feel just the same. It'd been a very interesting scene to watch, Cersei making her maids cut their hair " to prove their loyalty" (more like to preserve Cersei's pride like you said). We could've seen those who cried, and those who supported Cersei so much they felt honored to follow her...
@@Asaki44 after cersei blew up the sept of Baelor, i would dare to say that the maids were probably too scared of their queen to even discuss chopping off their hair or not XD
I disagree. Cersei has had this haircut for a very long time by her own choice. Don't you think it'd grow back, at least to her shoulders, during the last seasons? She just didn't want to look feminine and soft anymore. And the maids probably just followed her looks in order not to be fired for looking like a reminder of her past. Maids were always like mirrors to their queens.
Her handmaidens look like vulcans 😅
I hate how black all the costumes were in season 7. It makes sense thematically I guess, but I miss the colorful and interesting costumes.
Julianna Kopa well, Cersei is in mourning and needs to show power like Tywin. For the rest, Winter was coming. And now Winter is here.
I agree, they look so boring now :(
Me too. 😁
It was even worse in s8. I mean, it was a mess in general, but every single character wore black, and I had points where I couldn't stop laughing just because they all looked like they just fell out of the armies of the dark lord in a sci-fi movie. Even the fucking peasants were dressed in black, the wildlings were dark grey instead of white, and even simple linen shirts were all black. It's ridiculous.
@@magiv4205 I sooooortof buy the wildlings shifting tones in costumes, since they were coming south into lands that weren't glaciers. But there was nothing wrong with their black, grey and white faux-camo outfits they wore in, say, Season 5's Hardhome.
I always feel like the Tarly's are meant to represent unfashionable people. Yes, given the timeperiod, there should be all of these lovely gowns, but there are still going to be fashionably inept people. I feel like the Tarly's are supposed to represent that. Especially considering they are such a side family. Randall acts like they're such a big important family and for their area they are, but in terms of the big families, they're not even really talked about.
I can't help but think about how wonderful that funnel dress would have looked if it was taken in at the waist and would have gone down to a v neck.
I agree. I think having all of the characters be fashionable isn't realistic - that's not how societies work. Some people - even people with power and money - just don't know how to look good.
Plus, I think Randall wouldn't see any importance in pretty dresses.
I agree with you on Margaery's burrito dress, like I call it. It's biggest sin is making Margaery look fat.
D&D kinda forgot about paying attention to small details like clothing.
i would love to see hot climate deserty costumes that actually cover skin, because keeping your blood from boiling and being shadey is pretty important, you could have some cool contrast with outdoor fashion being mysterious and covering, but when stepping inside they take it off to reveal the sensual fashions
I was thinking that you could have the boiled leather ovr the outer part of your arms and legs, while the inner part is uncovered and thus can catch a breeze. As someone raised, and still living in Houston, I wouldn't like the idea of having to wear that though -- but motorcyclists wear protective clothing in our environment in the summer. They're probably very miserable.
On the other hand, if you cover just the outer parts of your arms and legs, your most vulnerable arteries will be unprotected from a quick slide of a blade.
I like the desert scavenger design in Star Wars the Force Awakens. I studied her full gear and it's fabulous
Entraya Crosshill if you look at very hot desert places such as Egypt, North African countries, and a good part of the Middle East, they aren’t wearing super skimpy outfits. Middle eastern men tend to wear full garments, but choose light material and white to help reflect the sun. Dornish outfits were just... yikes
Boobs in armour is one of the most ridiculous things in medieval age fiction ever. The weakest stroke on it would destroy this part of the armour, not to mention the breathing of the warrior.
Explain lorica musculata then, that shits chockful of weak points and yet ppl don't seem perturbed at the slightest by it.
Some Rando Filipino: That's more armor to parade around in than armor to fight in. Oni's right, it's purely physical, boob armor would just direct the shocks towards the sternum, which is very bad news.
Indeed. I've seen people say that Brienne's armour wasn't "flinky" enough... Like, she needs to look like a porn actress to be a decent warrior? Also, it's the best way of having your breastbone split, as Alice said.
Eh, it kinda depends on the time of armor and how it's done.
how did it actually work?
"As useless as nipples on a breastplate"
Gives one of the Sand Snakes nipples on her armor.
Sand Snakes being useless confirmed.
Good point! Thank you for commenting. :)
still such a shame, what a difference from the books :(
Oh God sand snakes - triggered -
Also, "you have to have the woman shape" sure, if you want a cave in your chest with one blow. Yes, this is more for metal armor, but no! We don't need the shape. It's not like as soon as a woman goes into armor we're like "oh God, where did her body go?!"
Season 7 went pretty lazy on everybody except Daenerys tbh.
Yes, agree, although I loved Lyannas Stark's wedding dress.
@@Costume_CO I loved the details on criss-cross belts of the dress, but the fabric looked to be of very poor quality, very thin.
Sritama Sen They're in Dorne, its hot af in there, cant blame a girl for having a thin dress
What The? Cersei's Costumes were great, Jon's was great, Euron's was great, Missandei's was great, Sansa's was great. What in the world are you talking about.
Euron was a rock star. U can never go wrong with a leather jacket like his, even in a land with dragons and ice zombes
i miss the red dresses on cersei
Me too!
Amjad Saleh I just hope she doesn’t have the same pixie wig in season 8, 3 years since her walk of shame is more than enough to grow out her locks.
Have you seen the promo with Cersei back in a maroon gown?
Yes! I'm very happy about this. We will be talking about all of the S8 costumes on Sunday's live show 4 pm EST.
Hopefully we will be able to see her recieve Dany and Co in a stunning deep red dress and golden armour !
I like Cersei's ugly wardrobe......it is a visible symbol of her inner ugliness.
Lady Clegane delete it fat
Lady Clegane I agree! Her inner ugliness, her true dark side and grief was all on display for the realm!
In some hot climates you do want fewer layers like a hot and muggy/humid climate but in a desert you’re going to want something light but something that protects you from the sun, sand and anything poisonous.
JediLadyMisty a lot of tropical or subtropical historical armies used quilted layers for armor rather than metal. The Aztecs soaked their quilted cotton tunics in salt water to stiffen them for slightly more protection
Exactly, just look at everyday Indian clothing. It covers the skin and body, but it’s very breathable and lightweight
I'm a little bit surprised that Lord Tyrell's outfits didn't make the list. He dressed like a Shakesperian buffoon. I mean, he was a foolish person and so his outfits reflected that, but he was so run by the rest of his family, especially the women, that it's a little hard to believe they'd let him be so garish. Plus, he's got a son who knows the difference between a pin and a brooch. So, I mean, come on! All of his immediate family dressed better than he did.
Hi Kim, thanks for the comment.
I loved Cersei's Dragon Pit jacket - it didn't belong in GoT at all, but it looked so sharp and so so so very black on TV and in photos that I swear it's made of vantablack. I'm just really impressed with it as a piece of clothing. But it was totally out of place.
Thanks Lyndi.
I found the problem with cersei's dress from the first moment I saw it. It looked way too futuristic, and the overcoat material looked really synthetic, thin, like nothing that could be produced back in the middle ages.
Just found out what vantablack is btw. Very cool comparison.
Lyndi Wittmann I was surprised to learn it was felted wool, it looks for all the world like neoprene.
Anomie Toponymie LOL! That's understandable, I see what you mean. I figured it was felted something - it looks so soft in a couple shots that show her shoulders really well. Maja said it looked thin, but I didn't get that. Definitely out of place, but such a lovely piece of work.
I really hate how a large majority of the more fashionable characters (Cersei, Sansa, Daenerys) started wearing dark and militaristic clothing after season 5. (The exception being Dany's white fur Winterfell outfit.) It just made it less enjoyable on the costume front because we already have so many warrior characters. It made it seem like the definition of character growth was becoming more warlike and gloomy.
I liked the funnel dress too, I thought it worked for building up the interest around this sexy but questionable new character. The most disappointing costume/general look of a character was definitely Euron Greyjoy. Such a mysterious and frightening character in the books, reduced to an obnoxious fuckboy with a penchant for violence seeking power... we have enough of that these days thanks.
Yeah, Euron should have been on the list.
Missandei’s leather harness looks like she got it from Hot Topic. The proportions are off. The leather looks cheap like bad faux leather. Daenerys’s leather harness is better executed which shows how important good presentation is.
I like Hot Topic! haha. :) Did you see your quote in there?
It's because it is actually Dany's cast off. of COURSE it's not going to fit properly! Missandei is a rather recently freed slave without an income beyond what is gifted to her by Dany.... who has ALSO been struggling financially because of the literal horde she has at her back. Nice clothing for anyone other than the Queen...? Not really a financial priority compared to feeding the horde of soldiers + buying ships + maintaining arms and armor.
Looking at it again, as HindsightPOV says, I think it is a different piece altogether. The leather is thinner than Dany's.
I was thinking about Margery’s dress the whole video 😂
I wasn't a fan of Euron's costume for season 7. He looked like he was going to a bring me the horizon concert. Too much raggedy clothes and not enough suave Bond villain in his attire.
I actually never really questioned Margaery's burrito dress when watching the show. I had heard other people make fun of it, calling her "Taquito Queen" and stuff like that, but it just seemed like one of those extravagant type of renaissance dresses to me. And I agree that Natalie Dormer pulled it off as well as you can, which is probably the biggest reason I never thought much of it.
But yeah, looking at it in the pictures in this video, it does look pretty stupid. Haha.
In terms of design, Cersei's dragonpit dress is bad but in terms of Cersei's character it's perfect. Cersei has always feel trapped by the limits her gender puts on her in Westeros and thus the chainmail look is very similar to dresses she has worn before with armour highlights, in order to allow herself to wear the armour in her own way.
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Missandei's pants are similar/the same as the ones Dany wore under previous tunics. She is wearing cast offs that are awkwardly fit because it fits her characterization. She is a recently freed slave wearing cast offs because Dany has other financial priorities than making sure one of her advisers is as well dressed as the Queen. She has a horde to feed, ships to pay for and maintain, arms and armor for an entire ARMY to maintain... new silks for anyone other than Danaerys isn't really a priority, and are only a priority for Dany because 1: she needs to look imposing, and 2: post-conquering of various Free Cities, she has the time to pick off and alter fashions that exist in the city already.
Regardless of whether the harness piece is the literal same as Dany wore, it's rather obviously MEANT to be the same piece, or Missandei taking on Dany's choices out of either respect or hero worship. You can see her throughout the seasons adjusting her own style as Dany changes hers; whether from a sense of "we need to look cohesive as members of her court" or that same sense of idealization and idolatry that a lot of the Essos characters see her with.
Cersei is in mourning for her children, and preparing for war. She's also trying to emulate Tywin now that she thinks she's proven her power by destroying the Sept. It could have been done better, definitely, but in a kingdom that equates femininity with weakness, it makes sense that she would masculinize herself as much as possible AND wear traditional mourning colors with understated jewelry. She doesn't need to content herself with flash and setting trends because her useless husband is a drunken lech. She's consolidated her power, and even if the people now despise her, well hey she has the Red Keep, AND the reanimated zombie-soldier on her side. She has nothing left to lose, so why would she dress as if she does?
The felt wool and chainmail dress was abysmal, I will give you that. They should have done more about continuity and the hemline. But I can't fault the creators for the rest of it. It suits the narrative.
Dorne was horrific, both in style and execution. This series has NO respect for Dorne, or the characters that come from that country, even going as far back as Oberyn's introduction. His coat was beautifully patterned, but there were still issues with his and his consort's clothing. The same fit and puckering issues, the same colors and fabric choices... the same afterthought kind of attention to their costumes was a major disappointment. This is just more of the same.
If Bernadette has been with Cersei from the beginning, then looking at master-servant relationships: "your shame is my shame." They shaved Cersei's head. If Bernadette shaved hers in solidarity, it would look pretty similar at the same point, yeah? Particularly if she is Cersei's body servant and the one closest to the queen, she isn't going to be showing off if the Queen isn't. That way lies insult and rather severe punishment for reaching beyond her station. If the Queen is in unrelieved black without embellishment, guess what? Servants got to be servantlike. It fits thematically.
Greyscale Dress: see what I said about Cersei above... also definitely agree about the disease-correlation.
Sandsnakes: See what I said about Dorne. The harnesses; as a leatherworker; offend me. They look like woven belts from the 60s-70s era, and the warping just reinforces the idea that they found them at a thrift store and cut them to size.
House Tarly is not and never really was a major player in Westerosi politics. They're a secondary or tertiary house at best, and have served other Great Houses historically. It would make sense that they don't quite have the funding to pull out real Southern fashions, and that their sense of taste wouldn't be quite as refined as that of King's Landing, Highgarden, or some of the more high-powered House capitols. YES the dress is hideous. It's supposed to be.
Tarly "Fashion": See above... and then also consider how long Westeros has been at war. Consider that House Tarly has hardly any political power and the power they DO have is mostly gleaned because who else is even left at this point? Yes they should have been made on different patterning because it's an unholy amalgam of 1980s and Regency dress that does NOT look well together, but there's reasons for the fabric choices that go beyond "hey we ran out of time uh uh, This and THAT hurry up we have to shoot in three hours."
Armor: see everything I've said about Dorne. The entire section of the show feels like a pasted-on afterthought and they changed so much of the plot surrounding Dorne that it's hardly recognizable even to fans of the books. More so than other parts of the story. (*Where the hell is Lady Stoneheart? Seriously?*)
Margaery's Dress: I didn't see the homage to McQueen. I saw an overly structured, poorly fashioned attempt at brocade armor that, while it might suit the character in the moment, detracted from its surroundings and didn't mesh at all even with other costumes from Highgarden.
Kai K Jesus this is basically a fucking essay
And the video is 20 minutes. What's your point...?
Kai K I’m not trying to prove a point. Just saying you wrote a long ass comment chill out my boi
House tarly is amongst the most powerfull houses in the reach...
Kai K I liked your comment. I read thru and had some of the same thoughts. Know this is old but pls don’t stop writing “essays” lol I love reading others thoughts just like I loved watching this woman’s thoughts on her personal worst fashions of GOT.
The Tarley dresses looked like cast offs from “Reign”. I actually like them less than the burrito dress and I agree with Tat that they are a “Lazy” choice. Great Job Costume Co. Brilliant Analysis!
Herman Bumms Mum Thanks for agreeing with me, Herman! Looking at the Tarly dresses again just doubled my stance that they should've been #1.
I hated them the most too, but the funnel dress won the poll! Haha. Oh, and you are so sweet, btw. :)
I liked how dowdy the Tarly dresses were as that might be expected in a place like the Tarly household where women are so degraded but they could have been dowdy in a more interesting way.
@@anomietoponymie2140 "Dowdy" -- good word choice! The Tarly family, which is beholden to the Tyrells, probably attempts to mimic the Tyrell style. But with far less success. And I can't imagine the Tarly father caring for the wife to spend money on such luxuries. And the women don't have much opportunity to see better dresses since I doubt they leave home much.
I rather liked that Gilly's dress was ugly and, in particular, ill-fitting. Made sense because it's a borrowed dress with no time to adjust it to her size.
except it isn't practical to wear light clothes in hot weather... look at how people would dress in Egypt or the middle east, they're covered from head to toe because being covered while living in a hot climate regulates your body heat and keeps you cool.
Cersei's hem in the dragon pit episode is offensive to me. I can kind of sew, my mom can completely sew, and my grandmother was a seamstress. That hem should be jailed and put to death.
Can I also just say that everyone complains about how fast pace season 7 is, but no one mentions that Cersei's hair does not grow.
I adore this comment! My thought is that Cersei is cutting her hair intentionally (as much as I hate it!). I thought that they would have showed a scene in S7 with her having it cut in her chamber.
@@Costume_CO exactly! I totally get why. They just never address it! I feel like by not having any scenes talking about her keeping her hair short or showing that she's getting haircuts to keep it short makes season 7 feel even more rushed.
For plot sense, only Aryas hair has intentionally grown.. They don't show such trivial details..
In the GOTs timeline, it is 2 years.
@@Costume_CO what I meant is, Arya was to be shown as a boy and hence had to cut down her hair ...this is plot...
Later she is OK with getting acknowledged as a girl..so they let her grow the hair.. as the plot demanded her to be back as a girl..
They don't show Jon Snow shaving his beard, Jamie Lannister's Hair also has not grown...
The wardrobe design went to shit after season 4.
Idk if many people noticed it, but i did and it really pissed me off how lazy it got.
GILLY is pronounced with a hard “G” ...as in “gangster.” 😃 Very thorough and unique critique though, haven’t seen many vids that study the costumes. 👍👏🏻
Oops, screwed up with Gilly's name. :) And also thank you for lovely comment.
@@Costume_CO it's also "nikolaY" and not "nikolaSH" for Nikolaj Coster-Waldau :)
@@Costume_CO George Martin states in various interviews that everyone is free to pronounce the names of his characters as they like. So you did not screw up at all. :-)
Thank you, I did screw up a few times, but that is very kind. 😁
Everything about season 7 looked rushed and made no sense.. Costumes included.
I´m just going to pretent that the Tarly women have a really poor taste for fashion, or that Lord Randyl didn´t want to pay to decent seamstress for his wife and daughter.
The servants costumes are well made. Does that mean that he's okay having his staff look better than his wife and daughter?
@@Costume_CO realy poor fashion taste, then.
perhaps they made their own dresses, as Sansa did in season 1 (although Sansa improved later)
I agree with all the costumes on this list, but I also want to express my distaste for Euron's costuming as well. He looks like a rock star, not helped by what seems to be eyeliner, as well as the over relaxed posture the actor gives. It's just another reason why the show's version of Euron is an utterly abysmal adaptation.
TBH I feel like the later seasons have really poor costumes. They all feel very boring, have the same shape and colors, I think they fail to establish real cultural senses of fashion, and often feel quite anachronistic.
Thanks for this! I forgot about Euron's costume and I very much agree with what you have said here. I appreciate your comments. 😁
I think that Euron looks like a cheap pirate although he kind of lived that way for a long time
I just have to point out that ancient Greek bronze breastplates weren't flat: they were made to look like a naked torso, including nipples. So, actually the idea of putting nipples on armor is neither new nor done just to be sexy. And yes, it's been done on men's armor. The idea was to make the warriors look like they were made of bronze, it was a type of psychological warfare. The Sand Snakes' armor would be justified with the same reasoning: it makes her look like she has snakelike skin. The fact that the armor molds closely to her body helps maintain that illusion. Still, you're definitely right about not having protection from poison. A coat-of-plates style thing (with metal on the inside protected from the sun's heat by cloth which also helps cushion against blunt force trauma) would probably have been a better choice for the Sand Snakes.
Great post! And I'm actually one of those who thinks anatomically detailed breastplates look awesome. Something as vulnerable as a nipple being cast in harsh, protective metal is an interesting paradox
Yes sculpted armor existed and looked good, but was flat with some details, full breasts is like advertising 'here's the slope to my heart please stab me' because the round shape of the breast would guide a sword to your center chest.
ok, I was talking about nipples you are talking about breasts. not the same thing, nipples are the little things on the ends of breasts. breasts with cleavage in the middle, yes, would be dumb. nipples on armor however is not as stupid as the presenter indicated it was. The armor could have a semi-sculpted breast on each side with no cleavage in the center as if it was a shirt stretched over the breasts, and still have nipples for psychological effect without sacrificing protection. If one was actually thinking about how a woman would design her armor.
I know the difference between nipples and breasts, however, the overall point is that, they literally took a mold of her chest and turned it into armor, nipples and all. The thing I'm saying is the whole 'molds close to the body' would really be more of a hindrance, if hit hard enough your own armor would injure you and just leads swords to the center. Even a stretched t-shirt effect would put a ridge against the rib cage that if hit could hurt the wearer. You want a good chest plate to not have any edges or ridges and appear to be one uniform piece of metal, if I had to wear something into combat I would want it to not curve around my chest at all to better protect my heart and vital organs.
Also the naked torso of Greek armor were less 'psychological warfar' and more 'heroic nudity of the Olympics' because of honor and all that jazz.
blondthief
Ok, first of all: I'm not talking about something that's closely molded nor am I talking about something that is worn by itself, since no piece of armor would ever be worn by itself. The best protection against blunt force trauma is your undergarment: in ancient times they used tightly stitched layered linen, in medieval times it was quilting, and in modern times we use kevlar. The principle behind these garments is the same: absorb and spread out kinetic energy so that no single area of the body is hit to hard. It's just a question of how well the material works. Any metal breastplate is a potential danger to the wearer if they take a hard hit: which is why these undergarments are mandatory when wearing metal armor.
secondly: the armor in question is leather, so that's a moot point. Rawhide is tough enough to serve as armor and retains a shape that it's molded into, especially if you're facing mostly enemies using bronze weapons, but it's still flexible enough to cushion an impact.
thirdly: what you just described *is* psychological warfare. Psychological warfare is anything that is intended to demoralize the enemy or to change the behavior of your own troops. The term "ancient Greece" covers a period of about 2,000 years. By classical times, you're correct: it was mainly a matter of tradition and honor. But in the more superstitious era when this design was actually invented: it was intended to make the men look and feel superhuman, and thus to take more risks as they fought.
At least that burrito dress 👗 was a bold choice thats was well made.
That's what Tatiana said!
It's pronounced "Nicolai" not "Nicolage"
who cares
@@AlatielleRS probably Nikolaj Coster-Waldau
Breast shapes in working armour are frankly dangerous for the user. No true seasoned warrior would risk amour that would guide the blade over and over to the same place weakening it???
Boob armour should only be used for decorative or ceremonial amour. Having outlandish and overly sexy general outfits is fine in fantasy (if overdone and tiring, also no woman 'high born' would flaunt her body), but it breaks your immersion when something meant to serve a function like safety actually puts the wearer in danger.
Boobs for boob's sake is a stupid choice in warriors meant to appear skilful, dangerous and a serious opponent in battle.
Very good point, lethally dangerous indeed. 👍
My first concern was arrows, no matter how fast and agile sandsnakes are, i dont think they can outrun arrows so,
imagine arrows coming your way and your armour not letting them slide sideways etc. but direct them right to your heart. One or two -might? posibly?- not cause a problem, that is if your -definitely nonexistent here- padding does somehow absorb the impact. After that you re down.
Battleaxe etc.. blunt force using weapons are the real concern but they -might?- outrun those in this universe i guess. 🤷♀️
Ism Ata: Your right, the whole outfit is stupid for more than one reason. To expand on your point regarding arrows, the enemy only has to aim for the exposed shoulder joint to incapacitate the fighter. If she can not use her arm she can not use her weapon, plus the fast bleed out around joints. No one would view these fighters as anything other than silly people playing dress up, not an opponent to be respected and cautious of.
As a working piece it's laughable but even as a ceremonial piece is wasted, if you can afford two pieces of armour, one of which is only for show, you would want to make sure it's impressive. Just look at real historical show armour its designed to be lighter, very showy and signal status, not protect.
Although female armour which includes round breast cups have been used historically for the comfort of the wearer (usually only the wealthier armies), usually lined with cloth or clothing worn underneath, a flat chest piece (while ideal for contact) isn't always practical for wearing (not all bodies made the same after all).Also I disagree that wearing a clear body shape is necessarily 'sexual' or distracting to the function of the armour, its no one characters fault that the fantasy genre has overused the 'sexy female warrior' trope.
I understand that they wanted to show how serious the show got getting to its end and stuff. But dressing everyone in black was just weird. As if YEARS had past in which the fashion had oddly shifted to stiff black clothes as a must have for everyone. I want to emerse when i watch tv, but the clothes just pulled me out of that and had me wondering how they all got their entire wardrobe changed so fast.
I Loved The Black
Winter is Here, it needs to be dark.
@@shockwave1126 Exactly, it's symbolizes for the upcoming Long Night
Historically people have worn black/bleak colours in great numbers during hard times (lack of money/transport when resources have been precious regarding war), but also kingdoms judge fashion based on their ruler, like how everyone used to wear wigs and then stopped, it was a kings decision what was in and out of fashion. Here even though Jon Snow isn't a fashionable king he does wear black (thematically and by virtue of his previous job) and Cersei after everything she's been through also makes sense that she would take to black. I'm not saying its intentional in GoT or canon but it would be interesting if the show had bothered to consider the 'changing climate' under each ruler.
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Um, black & strong, dark colours were actually a sign of wealth, due to the expense of long-lasting dyes (that's why all those American 'Pilgrim Father'-type displays/ movies/ docos with everyone in black is also inaccurate- Wiki 'Sadd colours' to get a better idea) - on the other hand, duller colours that came from plentiful local sources were more common- funnily enough, warmer colours were more frequently produced, & red was massively popular because there were cheap local dyes from plants alkanet & madder (which, according to the book I read, produces 'a rich tomato red' when you add a mordant [natural fixative] of alum)- natural dyes probably still fade over time, even with mordants, but wool & linen also have natural colours (because bleaching was expensive, too), so people might have also gone with undyed fabrics.
If they wanted Cersei to wear black, they should have done it because she entered a perpetual state of mourning for her dead children.
Yes, but then she can't put herself on the market for marriage to Euron.
Heidi your costume vocabulary is mind blowing. Thank you for the shout out. I’ll have to pay closer attention to the men. I’m sure they had a few
Ah, thank you. That's so sweet!
Nice one, AU!! :D
Also you should rant about the costumes of "Reign" ! They look terrible and are in no way even close to historical
Queen Arkham 100% agree!
Hi Queen, I have a video on Reign. I'll get you the link. 😁
Here's the link: th-cam.com/video/DyJDBQeHKSA/w-d-xo.html
Costume CO but reign was never trying to be “historically accurate in style or story”. It’s a teen love drama about a young female queen in a love triangle. The dresses in the show are beautiful and stand out as big fashion moments for me with many that I can remember off the top of my head. It’s not like the tudors or the Borgia where they were goin for really historically accurate
I loved the dress design for Reign. Though, I did feel it didn’t fit the time period at all.
I think cercei's costume is awesome in my opinion
I like it too. The intent is Cersei has a more of a Tywin look, armor type dress.
Galina I agree. It’s bad ass
The Dothraki costumes are the worst, they are B movie quality.
I wonder if anybody actually reads the comments before writing one to check if it is said already. I think after about 20 Gilly is pronounced like this and Nicolaj like that I am sure she is aware of that. Love to you Heidi.
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Tbf there are 1300 of them
Gilley's and the Tulleys were the worse. They looked like they were bought for Halloween costumes at Wal-Mart.
I was hoping Gilly would have a beautiful transformation for dinner. It just did NOT work out! Sad on that one.😣
I love every black dress Cersei has worn lately. Agree on the other costumes.
I appreciate everyone's opinions, but please keep it respectful in the chat.
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I'm here Sana. Just can't answer everyone, the chat has grown a life of its own. 😁
Oh, that's fine. But congratulations on the video :)
But yeah, the fashion in Game of Thrones really is such a vital element to the series. The reason that the later seasons may not be all that amazing in that aspect is that they probably spent most of their budget on the dragons lol
But good effort nonetheless. Although, I do hope they go all out for the final season.
I love it, I'm a huge fan and very excited to see season 8!
Costume CO I really hate almost all of the season 7 designs but nothing compares in awfulness to Cersei’s pixie cut!! I understand the reason for all the black (things are now getting serious) but that is no excuse for ugly.
My first thought on Margery's dress, seat cushion or couch material.
Yeah, definitely upholstery fabric for sure!
LOL...the sci-fi film world has a history of going to "non-clothing" fabrics for costuming. I saw a documentary about the original Star Trek series in the 60's...one of the actors said that the costumes they wore in a scene where they were meant to be wearing radiation suits were made out of....PLACEMATS...yes, someone was tasked w/the job of stitching together dozens of silver placemats to make those costumes for 2-3 actors for a scene that took only a few minutes of screen time. Nothing has changed much from then: Production budget x shooting time = get it done with whatever is cheapest & easiest LOL. The costume & design industry in general should be worried that CGI technology won't replace their skills entirely (at least for filming).
Great comment, thanks for sharing.
Gilly (sounds like fish "Gill"-EE) her first couple of dresses were ugly and ill-fitting because they were not meant for her, they were on loan from the family so she could have something clean and fresh to wear to dinner and create as good of a first impression on the old Tarly Codger (he really was a miserable cuss). I would like to see Gilly in something southern that fit her properly.
I think that even though some of the costumes do look worse than others, the costumes always blend into how the character is feeling or there story at the time. I can always appreciate that!
Before I start watching I'm going to take a guess, every Sand Snake costume.
I love how most of these are from season 7. And I'm glad I wasn't the only one who hated Cersei's latest dresses. Her short hair is bad enough already, why make it worse with those ugly black dresses? It just doesn't fit her. She used to look like a queen. And why everyone's wearing black this season? Everyone who's on Dany's side wears black, Starks wear black, Cersei wears black?
Yes, I totally agree. Season 7 was my least favourite costumes as well!
Also, I need to point out that in this universe, only the Night's Watch wears black and this separates them from everyone else. So it looks really stupid when half of the noble population also wears black.
@@piscis210 I haven't read the books except for the first one, so I only have the show to go on for this, but Michele Clapton has explained it as a shutting down of colour. It's not just the costumes but everything.
I don't personally agree with it myself. I have mentioned in my streams that during times of war, people continue to wear colour. They don't just throw away their clothes suddenly for an entirely new wardrobe. It also is add that Clapton has gone with black and silver for both House Stark and Targaryen.
I totally agree on the all-black thing. There used to be so many different styles and colors and fabrics. Now everyone is in dark colors, heavy fabrics and long sleeves. It feels like all the characters are shopping at the same store or something
well the night's watch AND people in mourning. And Cercei is forever in mourning now for the soul she never had lol. i wouldn't say i'd wear those silhouettes myself but i kind of dig them. simple yet evil disney queen lol. that hemn is no excuse though ;p
You all may be right about the Tarly costuming, but they also may be a reflection of the austerity of Lord Tarly. Lady Tarly and daughter may be more refined in their tastes than they were free to express. Just saying, it could be purposefully done and not a time/budget compromise.
I could buy into this, except that the servants costumes were better designed and made than the ladies of the house.
Arya's season 7 costume (the one that was an homage to Ned) didn't resonate with me. I felt that they played too much into her tomboy side and not enough into the side of her that supposedly shows itself in the books later on. Also, her hair is really tragic in it. Her hair's too thin for it. I wish that they wouldn't pull so much of her hair back. She doesn't have to be a carbon copy of Ned, ya know?
I can see what you're saying thematically. From a construction POV it was beautifully crafted.
Oh okay. That's actually a much more objective standpoint on what constitutes as the best or worst of the costumes. I can totally get how well-made it was, and it did look good on-screen. It really was a matter of person opinion on my part for her costume.
Absolutely! I based this list upon 2 polls and then fleshed the rest out myself, but I totally get what you're saying. S7 was my least favourite season of all.
On a costume standpoint or a story standpoint? On a costume standpoint, I can see how it's the worst season. Not everyone has to wear black to "wash out the palette." The only outfit I truly liked and was impressed by was Dany's beyond-the-wall dress.
From a costume standpoint I meant. 😁
I agree that Cersei’s outfit was off world HOWEVER. The detailing was INCREDIBLE, especially the spine!
Yes, absolutely.
That spine! I wish I had gotten to see it in the show!
Yeah, it's really a shame that detail was lost.
Cersei's greyscale dress looked like bubble wrap
I think Cersei’s Dragonpit dress looks like a car tyre! It drives me mad every time I see it!
So funny. 😁
Margaery's blue giraffe-print-looking burrito/funnel dress is literally the fugliest and most ridiculous thing I've ever seen on tv
Indeed! Thanks for commenting. 😁
I feel like the big issue with the Dorne armor is that they appear to be wearing t-shirts beneath it. Jamie is fine, but the others look like they through on the armor over their normal clothing.
Thank you for mentioning #9 Cersei in the dragon pit. Foe some reason when it aired all I did was stare at that two foot hem line. Every time she moved it accentuated it. I had to rewind to find out what happened and still when someone mentions the dragon pit, that's all I think of. Why they did stop filming and fix that horrible hem line is beyond me.
Thanks so much Random! I appreciate the comment. 😁
I couldn't agree more with these horrible looks and Missandei after looking so beautiful all the past seasons probably upset me the most. I was so glad you mentioned how the pants fit so wonky.
I agree the second . that 'jacket' of cersei didnt look from a medieval fantasy
Thanks for commenting Largos.
Great video, thanks. I had not noticed just how bad the Tarly dresses were.
Thanks Ann!
i want cersei in her flowy dresses again dang it
Yes, miss them so much!
Winter is coming. Who has time for fashion. The Night King is on the march. And we need dragonglass. And you're right...The Sand Snakes costumes were useless.
There's always time for fashion!
cerseis “chainmail” looks like e-girl stripes lol
I gotta disagree with you on Cersei’s outfits. Since she was queen of the seven kingdoms at the time, it was meant to represent power and the color black and grey represents the evil and villain power, it also gives viewers that evil queen vibe, so I think her outfit choices for Cersei are brilliant.
niples on armour are the worst
right BATMAN
oh man i Cercei's simple grey/black dress, i hadn't noticed the hemn issue though :D
i do think Gilly's dress was meant to be ill fitting and awkward, a hand me down that noone really wore (more than once anyway)
Hi Daisy!
@@Costume_CO hi again! :D enjoying the videos!
Oh good!
Everyone was wearing black all of the sudden. It was kind of weird.
it's a bit much, even for GOTs IMHO.
@@Costume_CO No it wasn't a "bit much". They wore black to show the approaching of war. The color is imposing and imitating and you WANT to look fierce especially if you are a leader. You're not going to meet an enemy in a flow-y flower-y light blue dress are you? No.
In my opinion, some of the ugliest costumes were the style of dresses worn by Lysa and the women of the Vale. But for as ugly as they were, at least thought was put into them, they weren't lazily thrown together like the Tarly dresses seem to have been. To me, the Tarly dresses were boring, uncreative, and cheap-looking, which is ultimately worse than being well-constructed and finely detailed but kind of an eyesore (to me, anyway, I just really hate those Vale dresses). At least with the Vale costumes, they took a risk and created a unique style that added to the flavor of the setting.
Honestly, I never actually noticed the "nipple armor," and somehow missed out on the controversy over it. I guess while watching those scenes I was just too distracted by how terrible everything else to do with the Sand Snakes was to pay much attention to how poor the costume choices were.
I think the costumes of season 7 (and a few from season 6) are pretty representative of the problems with GOT as a whole as of recently. Like this last season, a lot of them were rushed and not as well planned out, and tended to play it safe without taking risks. I did like a few of them--Dany's and Sansa's styles are some of my favorites--but even among the costumes I did like a lot of them looked too... same-y. Sansa seems to only have one dress and a lot of times it feels the same way with Dany. Not to mention, all the color seems to have been drained out of the costumes; everyone, EVERYONE dresses in black and gray now because apparently it needs to be hammered home that things are dark and serious now... even though they've always been. Yes, I get that with certain characters it feels more appropriate to dress them in dark colors, and with the changing seasons bright colors may seem too spring-like, but some variety would be appreciated.
This is awesome! Agree whole-heartedly. I think that the Vale are pretty ugly too, and I did a small analysis of them, as you said they are very well made and the fabrics are lovely if you look closely. Lysa's hair is just awful too. Michele does create a distinctive region for them, and I guess that is why me and the others in the poll didn't address it as much.
Totally on board with what you are saying about season 7. Have said this many times. If I had said half of what I was thinking, I would be raked over the coals even more than I am for this somewhat dumbed down video. Thanks again for commenting. :)
Trying to justify everything on 'it's a fantasy show' like, come on. Have some arguments.
Not surprised the funnel dress is #1. Such a bizarre dress.
I would ask that you create a Worst Wigs of Westeros video. Men's toupees included, but not practical FX (like the Hound's scarred pate). We live in a time of horrible wigs on everyone on tv and in movies. They deserve to be celebrated.
You could probably fit Dany in that list at least twice.
The absolute worst costume in the series was Clive Russell's ersatz leather scale mail. You could tell it was made out of soft leather and that it curled up; rather than small metal or stiff boiled leather scales used in protective armor. Soft leather armor wouldn't protect you from anything. Oh well, my favorite character...
Also, those long armored split skirts that Jon and Arya are wearing - they look like some kind of horse armor, not something that you'd be walking around a castle wearing.
We liked the video.
Hi Saul, what character was that that wore the leather scale mail? The Blackfish?
Yes. Clive Russell is long time favorite.
Also the wigs. There has to be a middle point between cosplay wigs and realistic wigs. I get people want majestic manes and such but there is no way Daenerys has a pair of curling irons in this fantasy medieval setting.
Well from historical point there was a old version of a curling iron except you had to heat it on coals. You'd be surprised what's been around for ages. Some of the most intricate Hair Designs came from Rome
Was about to say the same thing. I saw them in a museum in Italy. Forget that exact dating, but I believe it was BC dating on the ones I saw.
@@Kibatsume1 yes! I know stuff like that used to exist. People used to curl and style their hair in different ways way before we got our modern tools. But that texture, perfection and volume in her curls are just unrealistic. I know people love Daenerys' hair but I prefer the way they styled her back in season 1. It looked styled and wavy but in a natural way with the means they would have had in a medieval-ish setting. You know, without being so absurdly perfect and defined and with some frizziness going on. It looked pretty af in my opinion.
Great video. I loathed the Tarley women dresses. I worked at a JoAnn fabrics in the early 1980s and I must have sold dozens of patterns and fabrics for dresses like this for bridesmaids and proms. The dresses look like whoever was in charge of them was short on time and budget so they went back into a pattern archive and grabbed some Laura Ashley knock offs to get the project done.
I adore this comment so much, Permie. 😁
I think Cersei’s black dresses are really good looking but I’m no fashion expert.
I like the black silk one with the shouder spikes.
I honestly just like a few handful of the looks/dresses on this show. Some of the constructions, fabrics, patterns, etc look too anachronic and it pulls me out of the fantasy.
This is so cool, I've been looking for videos on GOT costumes! The costumes always seemed so intricate and symbolic, not to mention that over the seasons some of the main characters changed drastically in style. I was sure I was missing something and it all had a meaning I wasnt picking up on. I'm happy to have found you channel and will now binge on your videos!
yaaaaas just got all snuggly in bed and then you post this! I'm so excited...comments to come! :P
I'm in my jam jams too. Are you watching the Emmys?
Omg what I LOVE Cersei’s new outfits. I think they’re amazing. (In my opinion of course)
I appreciate your opinion. Thanks for commenting.
Costume CO no problem! Everyone has different opinions, great video nevertheless
Yeah, I'm not in love with Missandei's season 7 costume, but it's mostly just the pants. I don't mind the top so much. The pants though are way too distracting, I remember being unable to look aware from them when she was telling Dany about her and Grey Worm hooking up as they went to meet up with Jon on the beach. If they had lowered the hem line of the coat a bit it would have been a lot better.
As for Tyene's "armor", well anything Dornish that's not Ellaria or Oberyn is less than perfect. And one can make the armor sexy while also protective. I'm getting an idea for one right now.
Hey Tatiana!
If the burrito dress top collar ended just below the breasts, and gave way to a tightly fitted mermaid gown with the same blue fabric as the sleeves, it would've slayed us all. So, so close.
Honest question, do you watch the show or look at the costumes? Love your videos but mispronouncing Gilly's name made me wonder
I was not expecting how thorough this video was gonna get. This was informative and fun to watch
Thanks Melody!
Cersei's outfits in season seven seemed straight out of a Cenobite's closet.
Hey Martin, I had to look up Cenobite, but, yes, that is a great comparison. Have you seen the latest Hellraiser movie btw? It's apparently quite good.
“You don’t do it on men” Someone hasn’t seen Batman Forever.
Haha! Yeah, I was going to mention that!
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well.... i started watching 🙂 ....... didnt finish though 😑.
I like batman, just not that one.
Interesting how we project our own experiences onto the show. I assumed that the Tarley dresses were a deliberate move. This family is extremely patriarchal and traditional (even for GoT) and I assumed Papa Tarley would want his little women in the most girly, poufy dresses around. What's more whimsical than Laura Ashley? They're also not a particularly wealthy family, so I assume that a lot of their dresses would have been sewn at home as opposed to the two Queens who have endless funds for tailoring. Once again, I also don't think Papa Tarley would've wasted money on "women things". I thought they were great for the show (but only for the show. They're so ugly).
Projection? Are you suggesting that I need therapy.
This was awesome!
Thanks Joy.
My two problems with the season 7 costumes are that 1. everyone is wearing high collared black outfits, no diversity, little house colours, 2. Dorne and King's Landing are supposed to be really hot, so hot that people would still be sweating wearing simple cotton shifts and now they're all fine wearing black layers? Winter might have come but not that much, people are forgetting that Winterfell would have summer snows whereas the Stormlands and Crownlands would have oppressive heat and summer storms. Massive difference in temperature and climate.
Thanks for commenting Louise!
Best dressed in Westeros: Tormund.
I think the Tarly dresses might have also been a slight play on a joke the producers played on the actor who plays Sam. At one point they convinced the actor to wear a ridiculous costume, telling him that's how his family dressed. The costume included a monstrous cod piece, horrible hat and outrageous colors, think Henry VIII meets swap meet. The photo shows how miserable he looked wearing it.
Yes, I saw that. It was hilarious - but it never made it on screen!
As soon as I saw this video I was like oh God number one has got to be marjorie's dress 😂
I get it that they were going for a new age in S7 costumes, but it feels like they jumped 200 years in the future.
Totally agree! Thanks for commenting Valery. :)