The Proud Family (Pretty Privilege) Episode 😘😘😘
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ต.ค. 2023
- My reaction to The Proud Family episode that discusses pretty privilege with LaCienega and Agatha in a singing competition. How do you think they handled this topic? How does pretty privilege affect you? Let's talk about it down below. Please don't forget to comment, like and subscribe. Thank You!!!
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“Pretty Privilege” does exist in life and professionally. This is a very real thing.
My black and tan weenie dog had a large litter of puppies earlier this year. Most of them came out either black or brown like the mom n dad, but one puppy came out a 'blue' dachshund, with grey and tan fur. We kept him and one of his black bros, and I like to joke that he often gets "pretty privilege" bc he acts much more like a punk/bad boy than his brother does but we still love and spoil his bad blue butt. XD;;
It very much exists, i wouldn't get away with being as weird as I am without it. If I had been average looking or lower and said "yeah I'm a furry" I'd have no friends 😂
Sniperwolf is a prime example
@@anthonylarajr8892yes :(
@@anthonylarajr8892literally
“Your show only goes on because you’re prettier than Agatha. I’m looking at you right now, and I’ve never seen anyone uglier.”
One few times Penny told LaCienega off, and it was great.
I love the fact that Penny was never afraid to tell La cienega off
You saw LaCienega's face after she said that, she really needed to hear that‼
This line has lived rent free in my head for 20 years.
It’s one of the many quotes and scenes that live rent free. Because it was true.
Heck yeah La Cienega needs to hear the truth.
Pretty privilege even exists for animals, the small cute ones are always adopted before the older beat up ones. Sometimes the poor things are never adopted, just because they aren’t seen as cute anymore.
True‼
wait then if that's the case then why are so many bunnies abandoned when they're just so adorable???
older animals are also not chosen because of them being less energetic, and they need more vet visits.
@@oooh19
mainly because of abuse/neglect, the animal costing too much, and parents buying animals they have no idea how to take care of and their kids have no idea how to take care of either.
So many elder cats and dogs die because no one wants to adopt them, but every adoption story I've heard makes out the old farts to be about the sweetest, kindest, loving things ever -- if only for a short time.
Agatha still wanting to sing with LaCienega at the end is honestly incredibly beautiful. Despite all the crap she unfairly dealt with, she was still a kind, forgiving person in the end.
Right but let's not forget nobody is owed forgiveness after being cruel and Agatha would have been completely in her right to not forgive her
@@nyastalgiakitten Absolutely. Some people, if you forgive them, still treat you terribly, cause to them, they've gotten away with their actions
Agatha was another great character the writers never showed again
@nyastalgiakitten People seem to forget that forgiveness isn't souly for the person that wrong them. It's mostly for you. Holding a grudge was something my parents' generation did more than mind and it destroys you from the inside out. Bitterness, anger, hatred, resentment; those things tear away at your mind and your health slowly overtime and, believe it or not, make old age much more difficult than it needs to be.
Forgiveness if divine because it takes a mature mind to understand that the other person's life isn't at all affected by your lack of willingness to forgive. It's for your own sake.
And then you forget. There is no rule that says you have to include that person in your life in any way. Forget they exist because it might benefit you. Protecting yourself isn't a crime.
@@ryanc5572You read my first comment too.
“When you have talent you don’t look like that” the worst thing Lacianega ever said
So painful
It is a completely nonsense thing
I Always felt bad for Agatha. She didn't deserve to be treated like crap, and the sad thing is people actually act like this in real life, and it's really heartbreaking to know that someone hates the way you look. I been there.
Some ppl are too superficial when honestly none of that really matters. Self love and appreciation trumps any one else's opinion of you
It always made me feel really weird as a kid that they only seemed to make the white girls ugly? Zoey, Agatha…idk its probably just a coincidence 😅
@@rach3092 I thought Agatha was Black. Lol🤭
@@PoohBear7747 I don’t think so? Ik in certain lighting she looks like LaCi but I think she’s very light skinned
Same here since i was little:(
Pretty privilege has this thing called the Halo Effect. Basically, pretty people are seen as better than they actually are. If a conventionally attractive person said a joke, he'd get more laughs than an "ugly" person, as an example
I’d love to see Agatha in the reboot! Either a retelling of the story of how she’s doing in the future.
Me too ‼
Pretty Privilege has always been evident in society especially now in the social media era. I always say to treat ppl how you want to be treated, not based on how attracted you are to them 👌🏾
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You got that right nice shirt wink
They should definitely bring back Agatha but this time she’s become a successful teen pop star
That would make a great episode ‼
With the ultimate glowup
@@marckid93 right and everyone is happy for her except Lacianega she feels jealous but learns to be happy for other’s success by the end of the episode
Honestly, I thought Agatha was adorable 😭 her outfit was so cute with a cute hairstyle too
Me too ‼ Green was a good color on her
Like a slice of bacon 🥹🥓🥓🥓🥓
I also thought she was pretty. She actually looked how a tween should look like. Natural😊
When I was in kindergarten there was a girl who had looked “ugly” (her front teeth were crooked and she had a breathing issue) and my class would say she had a something like cooties. But they called it the “(name) touch” and avoided her. Some of them would tease if someone accidentally made physical contact with her or dared people to. I wasn’t one of them. My own teeth were a bit crooked but not to the same degree so I never had a problem with her. No one would partner up with her except me. She later moved away after a few years from bullying.
Time skip to middle school and she came back to our school for a bit. She kinda looked the same but she had good grades. She later came to me and thanked me or being her friend for the time she was at my school. I felt really glad that I never gave into that prejudice.
I never had pretty privilege but my school often bent over backwards to not include me in their top students because I didn’t have a look. 😂 One of my teachers got so mad because she wanted me in her elective class but they put these two students that flunked out instead.
Smh. Thanks for sharing that ‼
Awe thats wholesome! I love that ❤
I was that girl in my elementary school. It wasn’t quite to the degree that the girl in your story experienced, thankfully, but I do distinctly remember how other kids didn’t want me around them and didn’t want me to touch them. I hated group projects because of how the other students would be upset to be paired with me. I remember thinking that this was normal and just accepting that something was wrong with me to cause my peers to treat me this way. I only even became aware that I had this warped mindset in middle school when I noticed that being treated like I was “normal” was a surprise. In my case it wasn’t my appearance that made other kids think I was “gross” but rather my behavior. I have severe ADHD so I was a wild kid who did not behave properly.
It’s sad that I’m not the only one who’s heard the “--- touch” at my school. Happened to a girl named Kayla in 5th grade. She had a limp because one leg was longer then the other by like an inch. Me and my friend Courtney were friends with Kayla, but unlike your story Kayla wasn’t a good person 😭 she still didn’t deserve the bullying she got though, especially for something that she can’t control at all
Same thing happened to me. Only I didn’t get to move away from the bullying and it kept going until middle school.
People would ask me out as a ‘joke’ or want to be my friend as a ‘joke’.
That shit really fucked up my self esteem.
No one ever apologized and no one ever stepped in.
So imagine everyone’s surprise when I came to high-school pissy, jaded and not taking anyone’s shit anymore, and they had the absolute GALL to deny the bullying.
I saw a comment about wanting Agatha to come back as a pop star and with a glowup. While I like the idea, her coming back with a glowup may just continue to reinforce the idea of pretty privilege. If the new show goes a step further and allows her to be a pop star with her natural looks that might be more impactful then her having a glow up. Not everyone glows up and should be able to be comfortable in their own skin while still being able to be talented.
Exactly! I think the real glow up is developing yourself mentally and having self reflection of yourself to make yourself better for yourself and also being comfortable with yourself
I´m really into true crime content and I can´t tell how many times the public make excuses for criminals just because they are "Atractive" both men and women, like the "real life Yandere" were some guys called the victim "Lucky"
Right. It's almost mind blowing how ppl will overlook someone's sinister behavior just because they "look good".
I always wonder how the people behind the show must have been when they were in school since they kept portraying the typical nerds with the glasses and braces.
“You don’t look the part.”
Christ, that hurts. The context is different for me, I’m an opera singer, but frankly, being black in this world gets you the same damn result. 😔
They were so wrong for giving Agatha that squishing sound effect whenever she walked 💀
I wish in the college episode of the Proud Family reboot, they shown Agatha. I theorize that she grew into her looks, became a supermodel and superstar entertainer and was touring all over the world, while graduating with a PHD in music becoming a world renowned vocal coach, she even coaches Beyoncé. And even after finally being recognized and becoming beautiful, she always remained humble and gracious.
Love this theory! I can definitely see her becoming one of those content creators that make a living doing covers of popular songs in the media, to eventually doing Collabs with other creators, and writing her own original songs. All while gaining a strong following on her Spotify.
@@asalways1504it’s what she deserves honestly ❤
I know they're just cartoons but Agatha does look like the kind of girl who would end up growing into her looks as an adult
If they ever bring Agatha back I'm praying they don't pull another shallow glow up where people start all of a sudden liking her now cause it will just reinforce the belief they were arguing against. Let her stay true to herself and find her own style.
As a kid I remember that once they were selecting people from every class to represent the school in a panel organized by the ministry of education, when they got to my class everybody thought it was gonna be me or another girl since we were president and vicepresident of the class and had the best grades , aside from the fact that we always talked during public events for our class, but no, they selected another girl that had terrible grades, never participated in anything and was pretty much one of my friends that went to school to chill with friends , we didn’t really care but the rest of the class got mad in our behalf and asked the teacher why not us , and he straight up say “you ladies are very smart but they will be recording the event and making interviews so we need someone that can represent us well on that, look at yourselves and look at her, is obvious who would look better on camara “ and then he went on to define all the ways we were “wrong” and she was “right” , I was too fat and my friend was too dark he say, I was only 14 but I never have felt so humiliated in my life , he even told me after everyone left “ hey don’t feel bad, just eat less and you can get pretty too, your friend has no fixing she is gonna be dark no matter what she does”, I still think about this to this day, and the older I get the more I see that his words were a reflection of reality
Smh ‼ Sorry you had to go through that...that teacher was TRASH for saying all of that
I hope that teacher has gotten fired since then. If I were you, I would've told my parents about what that teacher had said to me, and they would've handled it in a heartbeat! No one should be talked down too like that, and it's just a shame that some people only care about looks instead of personality. That teacher had no right to tell you and your friend off like that.
That's so messed up. Teachers can be such bullies.
I went through that as well I wanted to be captain of my team for a research project we where doing, it was me against this other girl so the teacher made everyone raise their hands to do a voting NOT a single person raised their hand for me while more than half the class raised their hand for her, even one guy raised his hand for me and immediately put it down saying “just kidding” it honestly broke my soul but it was gonna happen anyways she was popular, thin, white pretty girl from a rich family (both her parents where heavily involved in school) with all the most desired features, while I was a chubby brown Hispanic girl with broken English
7:30 this where the "video killed the radio star" song comes from. People were able to fall in love with a song long before they knew what the singer's prettiness level was.
This was one of my favorite episodes. Yes pretty privilege is real for women and believe it or not men too. When a guy is attractive you will go above and beyond to help them/keep their attention. When a guy is average/unattractive you have a whole attitude/do the minimum. Younger I was guilty of doing that when it came to attractive boys/men vs unattractive boys/ men.
Yup I've seen it happen in high school especially
Disney's animated Beauty and the Beast actually is a great example of pretty privelige applied to men! Gaston is a horrible person, he's a jerk and a bully, but everyone just sees him as the attractive, strong heartthrob. Because he's pretty, no one sees how awful he is except for Belle
Yea but some boys are just so gorgeous
Agatha was the og susan boyle. When her story came up, I immediately thought of this episode lol
That pretty privilege thing hits hard. I worked at a kindergarten a few years ago and every year during Childrens' Day they'd have each class put on a performance for parents while a few were chosen as hosts to introduce everyone/entertain the audience (etc.). We had one girl who was was charming, charismatic, and just the nicest kid you could ever meet but the principal at the time chose another girl to host because that girl was "Much prettier and not as black"..Both girls are Chinese, so her version of black meant slightly tanned..not that it even mattered.
Mind you the girls in question couldn't have been any older than 5 or 6.
Wow. Smh‼‼‼
The plot of this episode reminds me of Susan Boyle. Though in her case it worked in her favour. She is an amazing singer but a lot of her fame was also due to the perceived "disconnect" of how she looks and her voice
I remember that. They all laughed at Susan. They thought she was a joke, but she blew them all away
@@TonyTurner exactly! Also seems she is still active which is nice.
But this definitely shows how pretty privilege is a multi-faceted issue. Most never get a chance and if someone manages to show their talent it is used as an "inspiration" which is a whole other issue.
I love Susan! The voice of an angel...
I have three Susan Boyle CD’s and occasionally I still look at her audition clip with Simon’s reaction to her. It never fails to bring a smile to my face.
I was just thinking that Agatha was Susan Boyle b4 Susan Boyle! Never made the connection till I revisited the Proud Fam episode recently
Pretty Privilege is something i never had, I'm still getting looks and stares from people. Yes its high school but ive been dealing with this for years and its tiring that people make it seem like im lesser than then because im "ugly"
Your not ugly, The Haters are..
F*CK THEM ‼ Just keep doing you 👌🏾
being ugly doesn't keep you from finding the cure to cancer
Milli Vanilli are a perfect example of how you don’t really need talent to make it in the music industry. This video immediately reminded me of them
I just watched their documentary on Amazon Prime the other day‼ Sad part is they really had good voices but were basically forced not to sing because of the producer's scam. When they finally used their real voices, no one cared anymore
@@TonyTurnerexecutives crap on people
Except they actually could sing which makes the whole debacle more pointless
Great video bro! Pretty Privilege is absolutely real and what I find annoying about these shows is how they cover certain topics such as pretty Privilege or Colorism. Why couldn't her character just be a normal looking girl instead the characters always fall into the nerd aesthetic with these popeyed glasses, big teeth, long faces, long noses, and the characters just look monstrous and is not realistic. What's even stranger to me is that Nerds like Agatha are always depicted as these kind, nurturing, and forgiving people in the face of being mistreated and harassed by people. That messaging just comes across as being a doormat or being above your abuse, which is toxic as heck Agatha should have paid Lacienga dust especially after all the things she did and said about her. I need them to get some more writers and flush out these themes a lot more.
Thank You‼Honestly, I would've loved to see Agatha get her revenge some how. But in the end, she still got her just due.
Good points.
We need a follow-up episode with agatha in there. Agatha was the only other latina in their school and she is the opposite of lacienga.
I think people who think pretty privilege doesnt exist are people whove always been conventionally attractive and have never had to see the other side.
I was considered ugly af all growing up, i was skinny and short with a round face and chubby cheeks. hella pale with red hair. I got bullied horrifically (which only ended after my best friend in middle school took her life due to the bullying. The bullies who werr constantly telling her to end herself never got in trouble, but they stopped going after me, likely because they feared if it happened again, they might not get off scott free), teachers and school admin often singled me out as a problem kid and stupid because of how i looked. They put me in remedial english in my 10th grade year despite being top of my class in english all throughout elementary and middle school. I had to fight it with my parents, and they only let me take 10th grade regular english in grade 11. I had to juggle both 10th and 11th grade english and i still had my english teacher tell me at my graduation that i was one of the best writers she ever taught. She also taught advanced english, which the admin wouldnt let me take. Because they had put me in remedial english that first year.
A few years after i graduated, my figure had filled out, i lost the baby fat in my face (i still have a round face, but you can see my cheekbones now. Apparently in my metis side, the women usually have a very round face until adolescence, then thin out throughout adulthood, then get the round chubby cheeks again once we hit meopause). I get compliments all the time now. Im 25. Ive had older people tell me im the most beautiful girl theyve seen, i get compliments on my hair, my clothes, my makeup. Every job interview ive had since i turned 20 has ended with me being hired. When i was still ugly, i got a lot of rejections. Guys who relentlessly bullied me and called me ugly and hideous and laughed at me with their friends started sliding into my dms and trying to hit on me. Girls who used to bully me and spread rumours and trash me behind my back follow me on social media and comment how beautiful i am. No attempt at apologizing, either. Of course. I assume because now that i fit their standard of beauty, they think i totally understand and would do the same, and agree with them for traumatizing me (i got jumped. A lot. I had boys beating on me, girls beating on me, it wasnt just mental/emotional). It honestly makes me sick.
It really bothers me that im only taken seriously now that im considered conventionally attractive.
hope you're doing better now
2:26 Not Michael getting torn down by Nigel Thornberry 🤣
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I totally relate to Agatha. At school being socially awkward, innocently insensitive, barely making a single friend.
7:30 that reminds me of this one black Opera singer i saw years ago. She was a baritone, and they only brought her up to make fun of her. They didn't even listen. Her voice was absolutely gorgeous and all they did was make fun of her for not being a traditionally feminine eye candy entertainer.
I stopped watching talent shows after that. I was only a baby, but even i knew what absolute disgust felt like.
What talent show was this???
If you ever find her name, send it our way! I need more music and artists to support frfr 🥳
I remember it being America's got talent or something else that was similar, there was a very rude British man with stubble and it was either New York or San Francisco.
She lost in the first round, so even after all this time I can't find her when I look it up. Just a bunch of famous people or hundreds of articles about people who won.
I remember her wearing a dark jacket, she was very masculine in appearance and had a buzz cut and glasses. And when I say her voice was deep, I mean "Phantom of the Opera" deep. Other than that, I can't tell you much. I'm pretty sure it was around the same time Tyler Perry was still loved and Shrek was still freshly made.
I wish I could help more, but that's as far as I can remember or find about her. I pray she is doing well. Perhaps someone better at sleuthing can find her again.
“What’s crackin’? I hope not your voice!”
LISTEN- that made me giggle hard asf, especially as a music major, they couldn’t laugh at the singing joke? Laaaaaame! 😭
Agatha should definitely return. along with this episode's message. Shallowness along with the stress inducing scenario of being perceived as unattractive, especially online is at an all-time high.
Pretty sells ,ugly repels that's harsh
Hope your good Tony
Thank You ‼ Hope you are too
Agatha needs to come back more than ever rn
I am so glad they made this episode i was a agathea in school too. I was always teased about my body, most girls were my size making fun of me. I was depressed alot because i never understood why none of the guys wanted me but they liked the other bigger girls. As i got older and hit high school , i finally understood why i was different and treated like a outcast, i was never pretty enough or had others stuff like name brand shoes or the latest hairstyles. To myself i felt so ugly because i would ask myself if i had a bagin body and latest syles would people have liked me more. Today i love who i am.
Unfortunately pretty privilege does exist. This apprenticeship I did over the summer cast all traditionally beautiful and skinny women as the leads over the more experienced and less traditionally beautiful women who were more suited for those roles.
It’s just an unfortunate fact that this exists and it’s based on what’s on the face than real talent.
Could it be that pretty privilege in the show itself never showed Agatha again because of her looks 😢 furthering the cycle of favoring pretty people (especially for women characters). As in, if you aren’t attractive enough to give more screen time? To make a 3 dimensional character? Separate from just being “ugly and talented.” I could be wrong, but I was curious other people’s thoughts on the matter :)
I agree. Agatha's worth as a character was to only be the "ugly one" for this particular episode
If I remember right this episode came out at the time American idol was gaining popularity
Yeah! Idol came out '02 and this might have been a year or 2 later.
I remember Susan Boyle from American Idol - she was judged for not being youthful or pretty.
But that VOICE!!!!! Oh my goodness...
FRRRR
Susan Boyle wasn’t on American Idol though. She was on Britain’s Got Talent back in 2009 and she made it to the final two and lost to a performance group of some sort.
She went on to have a pretty good career with singing. I have her first three albums.
For me ive struggled with the opposite of this...
When I was young I was an outcast (and still am) but would come to a mini youth group for kids and I would try to make friends. The thing is with fellow girls, even when they are arguably just as pretty as I, they still see me as competition. So that lead to talking behind my back, and making up their mind that they didnt like me because they were jealous. Untill this one girl finally let me hang out with her and we became best friends. I wish I could say thats the end but their feelings towards me still linger, and no matter how many times I forgive her on her bitter wrongdoings to me, I dont deserve it because im already too pretty :/
TLDR:
Girls can be envious and make your life miserable no matter how funny, nice, or forgiving you are lol
I dealt with pretty privilege when I was hospitalized for a month for and eating disorder. No one would talk to me and when they did something wrong or shady, I would call them out and it would be my fault that they did something wrong. I had short hair, really bad acne, big glasses, and all the color was coming out of my hair, so it didn't look great and desperately needed a haircut by the end of my stay there.
I also don't understand social cues very well because I have a developmental disorder. They would all treat each other really well and let each other get away with saying and doing some really messed up stuff, but blame that stuff on me. They'd also fake having medical conditions that I had to guilt me into feeling bad for them.
This one girl, we'll call her Sunny, was talking about group 2 (and they were all 13 - 14 years old, and we were all 15 - 18) and saying that they were shady, terrible, and other things that they weren't. They were acting like kids with mental health issues. So, I called her out and told group 2 what she said so they coukd ask the TAs to handle it. Sunny came over and said that I stressed her out so much that I gave her a "grand ball seizure" which you can very obviously tell… she didn't. I told her it's a "mal" and not "ball" and that would mean she would have convulsed on the floor. She describe the seizures as the ones that I used to have, complex partial seizures.
Despite me clearly telling her everything that she did wrong and calling her out for lying, it was somehow my fault. The only difference was that she was blonde with long hair, clear skin, defined lashes, big lips, blue eyes, and a straight nose.
They all treated my poorly because I wasn't conventionally attractive and Sunny for special treatment, became group leader, bullied several group 2 kids to tears, and everyone loved her.
Ironic that they'd put the Simon Cowell character into the ugly-shaming role when I feel like he tends to be kinder to people who look unconventional and have impressive talent (like Susan Boyle) and likes to see that kind of thing even more than exceptionally beautiful looking people.
Rewatch that Susan Boyle 2009 Britain’s Got Talent audition. He was ready to press the X button on her and only stopped when she sang.
AGATHA WALKED SO ARIANA GRANDE COULD RUN.
Y’all always gotta be careful who y’all call ugly cause they ALWAYS win at the end. I was an Agatha in my teen years. Had only one friend in highschool, skin was horrible, didnt care about my appearance and was very smelly cause i didnt care about hygiene.
Now everyone that picked on me in highschool aged like fruit and couldnt get their lives together 🤷🏾♂️ Karma.
Yes the music industry and modelling industry they say and I quote you must look the part in order to get what you want. And I would rather be a director or producer or writer
Man I barely even watch Proud Family, but I'm addicted to these analysis videos lol
Can definitely confirm pretty privilege is a thing. In HS, I was the "ugly best friend". I grew up poor and an only child. I didn't know how to do my hair as I was the only one with my hair type. Didn't have access to beauty products or nicer clothes. It wasn't until I left for college that I started learning how to take care of my hair and appearance. It was a COMPLETE 180. I even remember a dude offering to drive me home when I was standing at the bus stop with an umbrella. I got so much more positive attention for others, even people who wouldn't really talk to me in HS. It's unfortunate, but looks do matter in how we're treated.
Back in the 60s and 70s, a musical artist didn't need to have "that look." Music started downhill when "the look" became a video requirement.
It depends because in the MoTown Era, I definitely saw documentaries where artists and industry vets talked about the artists having a certain image especially girl groups
@@TonyTurner Yes, that was true of Motown. Barry Gordy often had a certain type of image he intended to present. Even then, "pretty" wasn't always it. Aretha Franklin wasn't pretty, for instance. Neither was Gladys Knight. But they presented a style and a look that was very much cultivated by Motown, not always based on "prettiness." People also forget about other companies producing black artists, such as Stax and Atlantic, which were nowhere nearly as concerned about "look" as Motown.
And, of course, I'm not talking only about black groups. White acts were often only "average at best" in terms of prettiness.
Great discussion tony
Thanks ‼
The Michael Jackson impersonator was actually Randy Jackson, Michael Jackson's brother.
One of the mainstream examples that I wonder if anyone remembers is the handsome mugshot guy that ended up getting a modeling contract. I remember it being all over the internet news at the time.
Loving all this Proud Family content 👍🏿
Thank You ‼🔥
One thing I found unrealistic is that Lacienga didnt won based on votes. I do believe Lacienga would have won even if Wizard Kelly didnt rigged it. Many of these competition are not won based on talent but based on popularity. American Idol season 8 is an example. The final two were Kris Allen and Adam Lambert. Kris Allen won which shocked a lot of ppl including Kris Allen bc Adam was more of talented of the two. Many ppl believe Adam lost not based on his talent but bc he was gay and Kris was more attractive.
Funny thing is that now I remember Adam Lambert and completely forgot how Kris Allen even looked
Interestingly another American Idol, Clay Akin, was gay and not as attractive, and he still got a career.
I can’t remember if he won or was just a runner up.
Also last year this one dude from Hawaii won and he looks like Maui from Moana so there’s that. I was also happy he won even though I don’t remember his name. 😅
Fun fact I know a girl who auditioned as a contestant for the voice. She was told to come up with a sob story and when she refused to she was told to drop out. Which she did eventually. But it was always just so messed up to me that you needed a sob story to actually do what you trained and practiced for.
Talent can often time mean nothing in the gaze of physical attractions. But it never dies. It lingers and keeps on keeping on. Sometimes to be showcased to the world and other times to die alone.
Great work, Tony!! I love your videos!! Pretty privilege is real everywhere. This reminds me of those singers or actors who are mediocre or who can't sing or act are loved because they're so beautiful. Also, the "ugly" people are talented but don't get far or are underrated. However, "beautiful" people who have talent or not are on a journey to success. Today, it's like that in the music industry.
Always like seeing your videos and hearing your discussion!
Thank You ‼
I made my first friend over pretty privilege. My best friend in preschool had tics he couldn’t control, and people deemed him undesirable for it. My naive tail thought they were playing games with him whenever they ran from him, but all it took was one look back to see he wasn’t happy with how he was treated. What’s worse was… when I was gonna ask him what was wrong, they told me NOT TO!
Bro was crying and they said not to. That made it evident to me I had to. Even as one of the ‘dumber kids’ in the class, I knew it was messed up. So I asked him anyway-how he felt-and he said, “You guys hate me”. Now that’s what broke my heart… glasses and tics and suddenly he was a game to them. Well, I wasn’t playing anymore.
We stayed friends for years after that. Even though we don’t talk anymore, I pray he’s well where he is. Cuz he accepted me, as I did him. 🙏🏽 Hope this inspires y’all in a way.
We weren’t popular, but we were chill. I was happy he was my first best friend. 👏🏽👏🏽❤️🔥
2:52 You knew she was coasting off her Solo Career right here! 😂
It wasn't good enough for Fake Simon 😅
that's the thing looks can be deceiving. just because someone looks a sudden way that doesn't mean they are good or bad its about personally. penny was right to call out her dad & LaCienga because that was unfair to agatha she deserved to win
I’m glad you’re tackeling episodes like this with messages like that. Pretty privilege is real
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Im glad u talk about this episode. I believe this episode is very underrated and talks about a serious topic. Pretty privilege is real. I have experienced the opposite, I was considered ugly. I was the butt of the joke a lot. I was voted in homecoming court as a joke. The guy I was supposed to walk with didnt walk with me bc I wasnt cute enough. My bully would refer to me has unknown creature to science. I do rmr my manger never let me get away with anything, but if my co-worker did the same thing, he didn't say anything bc she is cute.
If she shows up in the reboot then she should show up as a celebrity. Like she rolls back in the neighborhood and she's changed and by coming back it reminds her of that moment and prior to her celeb life
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This is probably what happened to me throughout highschool and college theater (with male directors specifically). In the case of highschool, that one director who kept pushing me out of everything turned out to be a pedo who was grooming and sleeping with students, so I suppose not looking like Prince Charming actually saved me there.
I'm surprised they didn't make her fat. I'm finding (I grew up in the 90s and influenced by early 2000s standards as a 40 year old) that one thing people find the ugliest is being fat. I grew up in a time period where (especially for women). the thinner you were the prettier and better off you were. There was a time period in modern history where pro-ana and pro-mia was a thing because the beauty standards glorified thinness so much.
This is just a really good episode.
I remember this episode every time i think of Susan Boyle and how she was looked down on for her appearance but also celebrated for her singing voice
Honestly, I did laugh at the name “Ordinario”.
This is what I loved about this show. It wasn’t afraid to call out the lies and tell you the truth. Even when they show celebrities and adults are bias they can be blinded by the truth.
Kinda reminds me of the Korean film “200 pound beauty”, it’s a harsh title & you can tell it’s clearly from the early 2000’s lol, but it actually does have a good message in the end
If Agatha comes back, I'm curious if she'll look the same or have a glow up like the others.
That's honestly a toss up with the writers they got now. I'm thinking they may give her a semi glow up and have the crew be like "OMG Agatha...is that you!?!"
I don't love the whole pretty privilege dialogue because it implies that because I'm broke and single, society sees me as a swamp crone and I'd rather blame my lack of success in life on my lack of talent or people skills than think that about myself. I'm sure it's a real thing though.
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Not gonna front Tony…considering how they did Zoey dirty in Season 2…I am dreading what they could do to Agatha if she comes back.
In many ways this episode was so good back then, and it’s message still hits even hard and it still applies today. Heck I think this episode is probably in the Top 10 IMO.
Also, I know I’m a stickler for continuity….but I thought it would have been cool if was Agatha/Lacieniga/Penny as a Final 3 due to Penny’s history as Penne…or I’m just looking too deep into a Gag they threw in.
If you’re a 10/10 in looks but a -10/10 in personality and character. People will eventually not take you seriously and ultimately discard you once your prime fades away. It’ll leave you hollow with little to no value
The saddest thing in our society to this day.
Middle school/Junior high aged kids shouldn't be so high and mighty about their looks.
High School's just around the corner, and it makes a mess of most people's, anyway...~
Anyway, Agatha's living in the hellscape that is this cartoon. She never had a chance. XD
Honestly, I'm glad that she didn't show up again in the reboot. She's too good for all this.
Kiwi comes in at the end to steal the show with her pretty privlege!
Honestly one of the better episodes of this show in it's original run. It makes me understand why it was so popular.
Playing with the M&M cups😅
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This episode shows not only the modeling, acting, etc. but how the entire world outside show businesses is basically very shallow when it comes to looks.
Yep, people that ain't so attractive gets humbled
8:09 well, not in the white market, but the grey one will sure do.
Good discussion
Well, Wizard Kelly must not be that attractive since he's always hiding his face in the show. So, how does money repel again?
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The funny thing about watching these old cartoons is agatha aint that ugly by modern standards. Like, the ariana high pony with inches that people pay thousands for, big round k fashion glasses, preppy style with the high waist plaid skirt, the fits honestly cute. Like, just stand her up straight and let the braces do their job, shes downright pretty by zoomer standards. Meanwhile Lacianiga look corny as hell in those capris, and a blazer???. Always crazy seeing 90s and early 2000s beauty standards
Capris WERE extremely popular in the early 00s. fashion changes.
Her looks are the only thing that's "socially awkward."
This is just really sad, 😞 😢 especially how they treat people.
agatha wasn't even that ugly: were her teeth messed up? sure. that's what the braces are for. is she super awkward. yeah,but so what? are her face and body a bit long? maybe but she'll likely grown into it. yeah,she's not exactly a super model but she's not flat out ugly either.
I'm wondering if there would ever be an episode where Oscar chooses LaCienega over Penny for something similar just because she's pretty. Like say Penny had to get braces. And she looks "ugly" in her opinion, friends clown her and whatnot and LaCienega has perfect teeth. They have school picture day or something and Oscar pays the photographer to photoshop LaCienega's smile over Penny's to avoid looking like a nerd??
I don’t really know when i started doing this but sometimes I’ll look at these kids who fit these beauty standards. Ofc it’s like oh they’re kids but some just naturally look better than others. In no way am I being weird towards them but I see them and wish I could’ve looked like that or known that my life would’ve been more successful if I was much more attractive. I don’t fit a certain beauty standard. I have a rounder face and while some like that, I’ve learned to hate it and I still struggle with it to this day. I look at all these people, especially girls my age and always notice how pretty they are. I often have to cover my face whenever someone has their phone out because the chances of them taking photos of me are probably higher because of how I look and who I hang around (but that’s not a big part of this)
Id love to see agatha come back too, kind of feels like a waste to have her only show up in this episode as far as I can tell
To be honest even when I was little I thought Agatha was pretty, she doesn't look that bad- But then again I've never really fallen for the trope of overexaggerating a character for a larf-
Well yeah, pretty privelege exists but it is what it is. Same thing with drinks, people will legit spend more on a drink that looks nice over a drink with the same ingredients that looks plain.
If anyone needs an example, sniperwolf
Cats know what pretty privilege is