I love your videos and appreciate the time and effort that it takes to make them. Thank you very much! I have an important favor to ask... Would you please produce some video temae lessons using Tantansai;s ryu-rei table? My knees are giving out with age and I need to learn ryu-rei koicha, shozumi, and gozumi, and usucha temaes. My goal is to host a chaji using the ryu-rei set up for all of it. Once again thank you and may all good things be yours.
I don't own a ryurei so that will be difficult. I can feel you pain and loss of seiza, since I got an infection in my knee (bakers cyst) I have struggled big time to sit seiza, even cross legged is a challenge.
Beautifully done ! :) And...it reminds me of my grandmother on my mother's side who used to be teaching Urasenke Tea Ceremony when she was younger back in those days. :') Greetings from Kobe, Japan
Very interesting way of grabbing the tetsubin... I have been taught to do it diferently: Hand approaching from the top, four fingers grabbing the handle and thumb resting on top, pointing to the spout to stabilize.
In my experience each teacher have small things that they do different from the "standard." It is always hard to tell what is their adaptation from what is the standard. It is common practice to try to do what your teacher like when in their class. I only have access to the old green books at the moment. These are three photos from ryakubon and chabako: dogu.store/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/IMG_5022-copy.jpg dogu.store/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/IMG_5023-copy.jpg dogu.store/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/IMG_5024-copy.jpg
Thank you very much for uploading your beautiful otemae in such a beautiful chashitsu. However, I've noticed one thing about your otemae, so let me confirm. Isn't that needed to move back the kensui just after holding the chashaku for wiping? the timining is between holding the chashaku and wiping the chashaku for oshimai. I came here to confirm how to do the bonryaku demae, so just wanted to confirm.
For almost all temae you will pick up the chashaku and move kensui back. However, this is not the case for Ryakubon. The kensui is not moved back at all. I can imagine a few arguments for this way, but I'm not sure that any of them is the actual reason. Some teachers will have their students move the kensui back in Ryakubon too. I imagine that this is to get the students in the habit of moving the kensui back in preparation for later temae.
@@Warigeikosan, thank you very much for your detailed explanation! I really appreciate that. It was a new thing to hear that Ryakubon is exception. I've learned from you! Thank you very much again.
@@cocorawjp I thought about this, and my hypothesis (unconfirmed) about why you do not move back the kensui is because there is no need to have it line up with the chawan at the close of the temae, as the chawan stays on the obon. I was told while I was practicing a different otemae that the kensui is pulled back to leave space for the cup of the hishaku to not interfere with the chawan when it is placed by the edge of the fusuma.
平田さん、there are two versions of bonryakudemae, one facing the binkake as Marius demonstrates beautifully, and one facing diagonally towards the guest. The new temae books are quite explicit on the differences, most of which relate to the kensui. When facing the binkake, kensui is placed directly right behind the knee line, and is not moved after the chashaku is picked up. However, when leaving with the kensui, the host turns one knee's breadth towards the kensui before picking it up and standing. In the case where the temae is conducted facing diagonally towards the guest, you sit down facing binkake with kensui naturally by your side, pick up tray and move your body to face diagonally, then move kensui up so that it is bisected by the line of the furosaki (exactly same as 炉 procedure), and the closing is exactly as 炉 procedure: after picking up chashaku, kensui is moved completely behind furosaki line, then when standing up, you stand up from binkake shoumen (no need for adjustment since you are already out of imae). I am not sure about the logic, but it balances the need to reach the kensui for convenient use, as well as the need to keep the kensui "low" and hidden by the knee line.
thank-you for this upload! It is exactly what I need for a beginner! What resources are there to help me study, eg. what words to say and when? Do you have any tricks to help gain more foam? Thank-you very much!
I have designed some vocabulary cards that are intended for beginning students wanting to memorise the words most commonly used in tea. These cards are available as print on demand: dogu.store/product/vocabulary-cards/ The vocabulary cards has english on one side and Japanes on the other. So you can use the either direction when memorising. I also have made similar cards for the temae order of Ryakubon: dogu.store/product/ryakubon-cards/ When whisking I find that speed and strength is what gives me the best foam, but most of all it just about practice. I still to this day find it much harder to whisk a nice when not sitting seiza.
I started learning Bondame temae a month back from my Urasenke teacher who is a female. She told me certain things men do differently but she isn’t sure how she should get me to position my hands when entering the tearoom. I see that you have them on the your sides so could you please explain how and where my hands should be and if there is a proper way to do it? Also is Bondame temae and Ryakubon temae the same?
Last question first. Ryakubon is known under a few different names Bondemae/bontemae or bonryaku. In essence it is just different ways of saying the same.
First question. I assume you are asking about where to have your hands when walking and not using both hands for carrying something. Women should have their hands flat on the thigh all fingers together and parallel and sort of pointing inward. It is hard to explain so I searched internet for a photo. In this photo the women to the right in the image is the teacher, try imitating her: urasenke.warszawa.pl/en/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/IMG_3767.jpg Men on the other hand have their hands on the side of their hip, forming a small circle with thumb and index finger, also the elbows should be slightly out from the body for men. I hope that makes some sort of sense.
In Urasenke the door is opened in three moves. First the hand closest to the goove / "door knob" moves the fusuma a few cm out from the wall. (In my case this is a hole in the door as I haven't made a insert yet.) Then the same hand pushes the door to the middle position, then the other hand pushes it all the way. Same way as it is shown in the video.
I'm so glad to see that Japanese culture is preserved by spreading it to countries outside of Japan itself
Hounsai Daisosho-sama have spent a significant amount of time and resources to make it possible.
姿勢がすばらしい!
お茶筅のふりが
とても凄い!
I’m studying tea in Japan and my teacher recommended your videos. Thank you so much for providing this valuable resource for students.
I love your walk and sitting. So elegant!
Thank you!
Thank you for your video, Marius. It’s very important for people who cannot attend to regular classes
I love your videos and appreciate the time and effort that it takes to make them. Thank you very much! I have an important favor to ask... Would you please produce some video temae lessons using Tantansai;s ryu-rei table? My knees are giving out with age and I need to learn ryu-rei koicha, shozumi, and gozumi, and usucha temaes. My goal is to host a chaji using the ryu-rei set up for all of it. Once again thank you and may all good things be yours.
I don't own a ryurei so that will be difficult. I can feel you pain and loss of seiza, since I got an infection in my knee (bakers cyst) I have struggled big time to sit seiza, even cross legged is a challenge.
Beautifully done ! :)
And...it reminds me of my grandmother on my mother's side who used to be teaching Urasenke Tea Ceremony when she was younger back in those days. :')
Greetings from Kobe, Japan
Oh wow!
This video has helped me learn so much thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you a lot for this video. It helps me a lot with training temae at home ☺️🍵💕
Thank you for your kind comment, it helps me stay motivated :)
Very interesting way of grabbing the tetsubin... I have been taught to do it diferently: Hand approaching from the top, four fingers grabbing the handle and thumb resting on top, pointing to the spout to stabilize.
In my experience each teacher have small things that they do different from the "standard." It is always hard to tell what is their adaptation from what is the standard. It is common practice to try to do what your teacher like when in their class.
I only have access to the old green books at the moment. These are three photos from ryakubon and chabako:
dogu.store/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/IMG_5022-copy.jpg
dogu.store/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/IMG_5023-copy.jpg
dogu.store/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/IMG_5024-copy.jpg
Thank you very much for uploading your beautiful otemae in such a beautiful chashitsu. However, I've noticed one thing about your otemae, so let me confirm. Isn't that needed to move back the kensui just after holding the chashaku for wiping? the timining is between holding the chashaku and wiping the chashaku for oshimai. I came here to confirm how to do the bonryaku demae, so just wanted to confirm.
For almost all temae you will pick up the chashaku and move kensui back. However, this is not the case for Ryakubon. The kensui is not moved back at all. I can imagine a few arguments for this way, but I'm not sure that any of them is the actual reason. Some teachers will have their students move the kensui back in Ryakubon too. I imagine that this is to get the students in the habit of moving the kensui back in preparation for later temae.
@@Warigeikosan, thank you very much for your detailed explanation! I really appreciate that. It was a new thing to hear that Ryakubon is exception. I've learned from you! Thank you very much again.
@@cocorawjp I thought about this, and my hypothesis (unconfirmed) about why you do not move back the kensui is because there is no need to have it line up with the chawan at the close of the temae, as the chawan stays on the obon. I was told while I was practicing a different otemae that the kensui is pulled back to leave space for the cup of the hishaku to not interfere with the chawan when it is placed by the edge of the fusuma.
平田さん、there are two versions of bonryakudemae, one facing the binkake as Marius demonstrates beautifully, and one facing diagonally towards the guest. The new temae books are quite explicit on the differences, most of which relate to the kensui. When facing the binkake, kensui is placed directly right behind the knee line, and is not moved after the chashaku is picked up. However, when leaving with the kensui, the host turns one knee's breadth towards the kensui before picking it up and standing. In the case where the temae is conducted facing diagonally towards the guest, you sit down facing binkake with kensui naturally by your side, pick up tray and move your body to face diagonally, then move kensui up so that it is bisected by the line of the furosaki (exactly same as 炉 procedure), and the closing is exactly as 炉 procedure: after picking up chashaku, kensui is moved completely behind furosaki line, then when standing up, you stand up from binkake shoumen (no need for adjustment since you are already out of imae). I am not sure about the logic, but it balances the need to reach the kensui for convenient use, as well as the need to keep the kensui "low" and hidden by the knee line.
thank-you for this upload! It is exactly what I need for a beginner! What resources are there to help me study, eg. what words to say and when? Do you have any tricks to help gain more foam? Thank-you very much!
I have designed some vocabulary cards that are intended for beginning students wanting to memorise the words most commonly used in tea. These cards are available as print on demand: dogu.store/product/vocabulary-cards/ The vocabulary cards has english on one side and Japanes on the other. So you can use the either direction when memorising.
I also have made similar cards for the temae order of Ryakubon: dogu.store/product/ryakubon-cards/
When whisking I find that speed and strength is what gives me the best foam, but most of all it just about practice. I still to this day find it much harder to whisk a nice when not sitting seiza.
My teacher instructed me to be like you
I started learning Bondame temae a month back from my Urasenke teacher who is a female. She told me certain things men do differently but she isn’t sure how she should get me to position my hands when entering the tearoom. I see that you have them on the your sides so could you please explain how and where my hands should be and if there is a proper way to do it? Also is Bondame temae and Ryakubon temae the same?
Last question first. Ryakubon is known under a few different names Bondemae/bontemae or bonryaku. In essence it is just different ways of saying the same.
First question. I assume you are asking about where to have your hands when walking and not using both hands for carrying something. Women should have their hands flat on the thigh all fingers together and parallel and sort of pointing inward. It is hard to explain so I searched internet for a photo. In this photo the women to the right in the image is the teacher, try imitating her: urasenke.warszawa.pl/en/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/IMG_3767.jpg
Men on the other hand have their hands on the side of their hip, forming a small circle with thumb and index finger, also the elbows should be slightly out from the body for men. I hope that makes some sort of sense.
Warigeiko thank you so much. This was really helpful
美しい。
Thank you!
This was fascinating. Out of curiosity: is it prescribed that the door be opened and closed in two discrete stages, rather than in one clean motion?
In Urasenke the door is opened in three moves. First the hand closest to the goove / "door knob" moves the fusuma a few cm out from the wall. (In my case this is a hole in the door as I haven't made a insert yet.) Then the same hand pushes the door to the middle position, then the other hand pushes it all the way. Same way as it is shown in the video.