Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord , and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. Isaiah 55:7 KJV
TheBlubunni Few people would consider themselves to be “wicked” or “unrighteous”. Those are terms used only by “Christians” so that they can view themselves as better than they actually are. They prefer to call their own wickedness “mistakes” and they love to say “no one is perfect”. Both are total bale outs for the most vile of wicked rationalizing.
"Nobody loses sleep over their treason against God but let their physical body be touched with cancer or their house be touched with rioting and then their emotions really rise up with moral indignation. Violence and suffering exist in this world as a divine witness to the meaning and seriousness and the outrage of sin against God."
I can relate to that man, after reading the chapters of Judges to Chronicles and the Prophets, those vivid imagery would you chill you to the bone and I questioned some of it but I knew there was a purpose for each part in the Scriptures that seem violent. It made me read the Bible even deeper and see how man is in need of God's guidance and mercy...
@@mr.c2485 I don't know why certain people keep commenting to me, but I don't get what you meant by "scared straight" program, do you mean God scares the straight out of you? God doesn't use the scared straight program (if it ever was a program, which is seriously a bad term for it) rather if God decides for men to fear, it is not the kind of fear that causes man to depart from God but rather towards Him. By remotely ethical, again please phrase this specifically if by ethical by means of the "program" you mentioned or what was mentioned in the Bible about violent verses then ethics itself is of a different matter. It may not be effective for you, but many people have truly seen what God meant by using such "program" that you stated. And I encourage you to listen to the Podcast once more.
Micah Grace There are exactly four reasons why anyone believes in a god. Three of the four involve playing on human fear.....or...the “scared straight” program.
Tim C. You sound like Mr. C. It’s fine if you agree with him. I don’t need you to agree with what I believe God is like or what the Bible say He’s like. God is not after man’s support or praise. He remains God even if we don’t praise or support Him (as if He ever needs our support or praise) And what you seem to be ethical or moral doesn’t really justify your statement because you are just making claims with no evidence or examples to back it up. Lastly, God did sent a supernatural being but more than a being, He sent Jesus Christ to tell the world about the Father, and Jesus said people like you won’t believe even if a person or supernatural being (paraphrasing) were to come, you’ll continue to question God because of your fallen nature of sin even when evidence presents itself to you He exists. It’s your problem, not the world’s.
Mr. C You clearly aren’t getting the point. I find this conversation futile so I am not obligated to reply to you. Whatever those “four reasons” are, human fear is not the only thing that makes people believe in God. I believe in God because I know Jesus died for my sins and He took away my fears and shame. Have a good day trying to cling to that “scared straight” program of yours.
One of the most common questions which gets raised and slightly surprised its taken until episode 1530 for it to come up. Good answer from Pastor John (as usual).
Thank you pastor John, like the questioner I have just finished reading the book of judges and was horified at what I read and wondered why it was in the Bible. I asked God about this and you have given me an explanation which I am so thankful for.
John Piper explained this perfectly. God’s really given him wisdom. I think a lot of people wouldn’t know how to explain this evil while still upholding God as right.
*He normalized murder of innocent children, mothers, brown, nlack, & yellow people. John is a osychopath. I am glad to hear it from a mentally sick serial killet*
@@S.Ladd67 Let God be true and every man a liar. There's archaeological evidence all over the world to prove the stories in the Bible did happen and God is real and Jesus did walk the earth all you have to do is look it up. John 3:20 for every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
@@S.Ladd67 NIV exodus 20:21 "Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt it never mentions this in the Bible.
Tim C. God cannot be proven with sightings or books...neither are demonstrable. We are limited to believing things that can be observed, tested, and duplicated. 1 kings would be of great help if someone could recreate it. Just soak a bunch of wood and call on whichever god you believe in to burn it up. Unfortunately, that’s not likely to happen. We’re stuck with asking what things are the most likely. Definitely, not a best case scenario, but it’s all we have. Whatever the case may be, there are three things I’ve discovered that apply to every person on the planet. Following these three premises has been invaluable to me over the years in giving me perspective on all things physical and possibly spiritual. Perhaps they may be of value to you as well.....interested?
Tim C. Premise #1. We all desire the same thing...soundness of mind. One that is not moved by the whims of men or the eventualities of life. Premise #2. Because of that fact, it stands to reason that anything that opposes that soundness must be addressed...wether positively or negatively. Premise #3. The use of malice..in any form..compromises the ability to accomplish or adequately satisfy premise #1 thus making premise #2 a negative thing rather than a positive one. These three can be observed and/or tested for accuracy and duplication. They can be attached to any person or life eventuality. Wether or not they become profitable can only be answered on a personal level. I invite you to test these for yourself for just 24hrs...your response is of interest to me. Thank you!
Wow, Great answer to this quesiton!! Thanks pastor John. God is Amazing and so wounderful for he restrains us from doing such harm to eachother. He showes us just how evil we all are. All goodness comes from God. There is no one righteous, no not one. We are wrong if we think there is anything good in us. God showes us how wicked the human heart really is.
Wowwwwww!!!! What a M E S S A G E!!!! A few days ago, I was talking with my sister about the prophet Elijah, which he has been reading in 1 Kings... and we made to each other the question about why a man or a prophet of GOD killed, such Elijah himself, King David?
Great video, Pastor are you of the belief that cancer exists because of sin, if so is that personal sin causing that person to get cancer (what about children) or the worlds sin?
I haven’t heard his personal answer to this question, but he believes in reformed theology, so I guess he would answer it along the same way I would; and like Paul did in Romans. “The fall” happened in Genesis, sin was introduced in humans and nature “fell” (a fall from perfection) with humans. Things are no longer perfect the way God created it all, and that’s why nature is subject to imperfection and disease, natural disasters etc. I definitely don’t think (from a biblical perspective) that God causes any of it, it seems more logical that these things are consequences of our own actions (cancer in children is typically caused by genetics, diseases in parents and certain bad foods that the mother eats while pregnant, like carcinogenic food which transfers to the child), and God allows it to happen. He does stop some bad things from happening, and He often heals people, but He also brings good things out of the bad :) I hope that answers your question, God bless you!
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: It doesn't say or mention breathed out, so where did you get that from?
yes sirrrreeee pastor piper. that tree is swaying and you are the moonlight over shining the moonshine where all is semi dark and no crow knows what is before its nose, sir
12:07 Horrors shows us the dumbness of man. The love of God is there all the time, in hardship and in success, and while everything falls apart in your life, you can comfort yourself knowing that God loves us all, I, everyone, you, and all the rest. The love of God is undeniable. It's the love of mankind that is imperfect. That's why Jesus taught us to love others like he loved everyone. That's stronger than the love of a parent for the offspring, it's God's sole son delivering the message that God do love us. God do forgive us. But do we forgive one another? Do we love one another? God can show us that some people have a heart, yes. But a world that truly reflects the love of God is a world of people that undeniably loves everyone else.
Sin is so awful that death to those it fell on is merciful. Either they believed and were taken away from sin forever, or the disbelieved and were stopped from sinning further to make them have less eternal punishment.
Strictly speaking: Every last world of scripture was written by a human being. Every last claim in and about scripture was/is made by a human being. Every interpretation of scripture was/is made by a human being. "God" has not "presented" a thing.
@@peterblock6964 Sadly, you will most surely die some day and then you will know with a clarity that you have never experienced before, that God is true and His word is true. I truly hope you trust in Christ before that occurs because if you dont you will truly regret it and all of your arguments and disagreements with God will be held against you. Please be reconciled to God!
So, @@RenewedMind1212, you still follow the entirely human belief and entirely human claim that "God" sourced the varied writings you call the "Bible." I don't have "disagreements with God." I have disagreements with foolish human claims about a "god" that essentially just demands blind loyalty and offers the "reward" of being able to worship "IT" for Eternity, or the threat of excruciating suffering for Eternity for not pledging loyalty to "IT." That "god" is nothing more than an infinitely powerful version of donald the trump. It is a very sick figment of human imagination (and creation). ¡Wake up out of your hypnotic stupor! May God bless you, @No Gimmicks, Just The Word , every member of your extended family and circles of friends, and every being any of you interact with in any way, with a thousand orders of magnitude acceleration of your spiritual evolution.
@@peterblock6964 It is most unfortunate and deeply distressing to me that you think that way about God; I pray one day God will open your eyes to behold His precious Son and cause you to love and adore Him...I truly hope that for you.😪
It is most unfortunate, @@RenewedMind1212, that you worship human ideas about God instead of God directly. … one day eventually … May God bless you, @No Gimmicks, Just The Word, every member of your extended family and circles of friends, and every being any of you interact with in any way, with a thousand orders of magnitude acceleration of your spiritual evolution.
Why is the Bible so violent? Because people are sinners, and what does sin cause? Violence. Why is God violent? Because he punishes the wicked. Whoomp there it went!
@@user-fq7ii3ub4m Why are you so concerned about God and babies when we have abortions being performed all around America (I'm assuming you're rom America, and if not id you're living in a developed country it's guaranteed that abortions are taking place. I think we need to look in our own back yards before judging God on what he does there's partner. He is the author of life and death, so he gets to choose who lives and dies here, and eventually we all die here. That's a very hypocritical statement you made there, my friend.
@@therant3837 I'm not American, but whatever. Your question about abortion goes both ways. Why does God care so much about abortions when he has no issue with new-born babies dying. Sorry, but the answer to the "why is God so violent?" question is obvious to any sane person. He's so violent because he was created by people living in a very violent age. So of course he reflects their views and principles.
@@user-fq7ii3ub4m Why is God violent? Why is man so violent? You ever ask yourself that question? Seriously why is mankind so friggin' wickedly evil? I used to ask questions like yours then I realized it wasn't God it's US. It's US that does horrible things. People don't like being punished, and that's what God does to violent, raping, thieving, lying, hypocritical people like ourselves. Although some may not rape or murder EVERYONE is a liar, and EVERYONE has stolen SOMETHING..... most commandments we have actually broken whether we have the guts to admit it or not. So to answer your question why is God so violent? Look at human kind and tell me we're not violent. God killed the Canaanites and their children and their babies because the curse upon them was upon their entire culture. You don't like that. You don't agree with that. That's who God is. Whether you like it or not God punishes most severely. This is why churches all over have tried to make God seem friendlier and "nicer". That's not who God is. I've been under demonic attack since I was 7.... SINCE I WAS 7 YEARS OLD. I don't know why, but at 43 years old this is where I stand. The Holy Spirit has spoken to me. THE DEVIL has driven me to the point of suicide and praying to God to kill me or make it so I was never born. That's what God did and has been doing to me since I was 7. I've been beaten up, flung down hallways, called a faggot and a pussy all throughout my childhood even by my own family members alongside of someone trying to KILL ME in Lake Erie by the time I was 13. Those are small tidbits of my childhood. If you like I haven't even touched the worst parts yet, nor mentioned my adult life. Nothing has ever work out for me.... ever. But this is what he wants whether I want it or not.... and most days I don't but I accept it.... wishing I would die already but I still accept it. My life has been nothing but a tragic irony. So.... not only have I seen God's unhappy side since I was 7, I've been privy to mankind's violent and malevolent nature as well then turning back and blaming God for their punishment. Hmmmm.... another tragic irony I have to say..... It isn't that God is so violent.... it's that sin must be punished just like everything else out there that is wrong either by a spanking or in the court room or in prison punishments exist for a reason.
Because it’s about real life the beginning and ending the good and the evil peace and war Etc... Etc...Etc... SHALL I GO ON ??? It’s about where we came from how we was created. How to live a holy life. How to change your heart and stop being evil. Etc... Etc...Etc... and the Entire Bible is The Life And Resurrection Of Jesus it’s about the Satan and his scemes it’s about the way human beings are ... the real ways of Man ... it’s about the spiritual world and the Physical World.
Ok this is violence done by humans, but in 2. Mose there’s violence done by GOD himself, to actually innocent Egyptians, when he kills all the first borns, expect from the Israelites. So why? Why those need to be killed? God himself made the Pharao not leave the Israelites, so the Egyptian people had nothing to do with it. Makes me quite sad actually, even disappointed…please someone help and explain 🙏🏼
Violence is how he shows his love? Are you kidding me? This is probably the justification for all the beatings that children have had to endure at the hands of authoritarian parents and teachers and preachers. I think what is referred to as apologetics is just simply the abuse of humankind.
There is no salvation without the shedding of blood WHY ??? That one I cannot answer why blood does anyone know why blood is God’s Choice to have ??? Why Blood What’s in it for God That he Needs Shed Blood in order to forgive man of sins .
Because in the blood is life and because in life is blood if you don't have the red gooey stuff that drips from your veins you're not going to live that's why he required it it's a currency
*God inspired Pail? Then he pushed Jesus aside & became the Messiah? Confused* ■Fyi: We heard that Paul was schizophrenic & had visions/ hallucinations etc. Is his violence related to that? Jesus was 100% non-violent brown man with black curls born in Filistine?■
If it were figurative, it would have used fictive names. If he really believes there is a lesson to learn from war manuscripts, then it shouldn't be names that are applied to people living today. Nicknamed with names like amalek, esav, edom, gog, magog. This is perpetual antagonism of xenophobic proportions against outsiders and have no place in a world that wants to honor God. Jesus taught us better.
Tho this was posted a year ago. As a Christian. Its because hes often talked about as a fatherly figure. Like the "father, son and the holy spirit". I think its not meant to be taken all literally as if hes a man. I believe its more logical to think hes a spirit. But its a reason we say "he". I hope thay explains it!
You have to remember the old testament is virtually ancient and yes these things did happen, along comes the birth of Christ ( The New Testament ) and the covenant was different, Jesus didn't work with violence
Which was horrible.. a teenager was impregnated… because God created the devil… then created humans with free will and then became mad that they exercised it…bullshit.
Probably going to get flak for this, but ‘The Lord/Yahweh’ is Satan. Jesus is the same forever and ever, and Jesus and the Father are one, correct? There’s a contradiction. Nothing Jesus ever commanded, promised or taught ever brought forth or glorified violence. Also, need I remind everyone he rebuked his own followers for wanting to call down fire on their enemies? How he preached about the sanctity and importance of children? It is also said… a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand. If Satan is referred to be the one that ‘holds the Power of Death’… does God borrow Satan’s power to kill? Of course not. Jesus says no one has ever heard his father’s voice before now… and yet then who was speaking audibly to Moses? Who spoke loudly to the Israelites? Jesus says oaths are FROM THE EVIL ONE. Who asks the Israelites to swear oaths? Yahweh/Lord, not Father. And need I also say Satan’s #1 Goal? To be worshipped as god. Check out the Good God channel or Good God Ministries website if you want to know more. God bless.
You watch any horror movie and it is more violent and graphic than what the Bible says in just words. How many people get shot and killed in a typical action movie, anyone say anything about that ?.
People go to horror movies and love them. They want to be scared but then freak out about the violence in the Bible. I love that God doesn’t hid anything it’s part of the reason I know it’s true.
Personally, I’ve always struggled and been unable to watch horror movies. I can’t imagine anything worse. So, I struggle with the violence in the Bible.
I’m just like god. I enjoy leaving loaded weapons lying around the house for my kids to find. If they truly love and trust me, they will leave my things alone. If not...well...they’ve been warned. Even if my toddler shoots and kills my wife...well...we’re all better for it. How else will he learn about his nature and his responsibility to god and others.
Ezekiel 20:24-26, Jeremiah 7:21-22, Matthew 12:7 Don't assume everything the religious leaders tell you is true. Strait is the gate. Narrow the way. _Few._ _ (Mark 10) And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart Moses wrote you this precept. But from the beginning of the creation it was not so...
This BOOK and YWH are made. up. hey ask about stoning children, woman not innocent when they get married, what YWH COMMANDS done to suckling infants,, to pregnant woman, YWH LAWS for SLAVES, to take innocent child slaves geee what' that about, YWH COMMANDS you to EAT FLESH and that of your children, JC COMMANDS you to be a EUNUCH, stone woman who get attacked and don't fight., a girl who dad serves YWH and not innocent is to be barbie qued. I can go for a week.
All scripture is inspired...but can we question as to what is truly scripture? I am not convinced that everything we call the Bible is truly God breathed. This guy is just talking...but common senses will prevail. I love the word of God...but some of the stuff in the bible...which has nothing to do with salvation...God will have to tell and explain to me in his time. Right now. . I refuse to believe that my Father God breathed some of those things. They simply have no value and has been used by wicked man to justify all kinds of offenses to humanity.
There is not one word of "scripture" in the world not written by a human being. There is not one claim in or about "scripture" not made by a human being. There is not one interpretation of "scripture" not made by a human being. This goes for all scriptures of all religions anywhere on Earth. True, there are plenty of spiritually valuable excerpts among the world's religious writings. ¿But "God breathed?" NO. Paul of the NT was a fallible human. Just because Paul believed what he wrote doesn't make it accurate. There is also the possibility that he didn't actually 100% believe what he wrote. ¿How many examples can you find of humans telling others what to believe-not because it was true, but because they felt it was "for the best" for those others to believe whatever it is they were supposed to believe? Parents to their children Shepards to their "flock"
Well, there is not a single unique "god" in the Old Testament. There are multiple "gods" being worshipped in the Old Testament. There are two possibilities: 1) The Hebrews made up a "god" to justify atrocities as they needed. 2) The Hebrews, at least in some of their books, essentially worship one or more demons. Even the possibility that they had encountered non-human beings from outer space is a million times more plausible to explain Deuteronomy than the "God" it describes. It is a very naive and immature claim that "scriptures" are the "Word of God." Every last word of every last scripture on Earth was written down by a fallible human being. Every last claim in or about these scriptures was/is made by a fallible human being. Every last interpretation of these scriptures was/is made by a fallible human being. This is indisputable FACT. This must be acknowledged by everyone for humanity as a whole to make any further spiritual progress at all. May God bless you Pastor John, every member of your extended family and circles of friends, every one of your TH-cam subscribers, and every being any of you interact with in any way, with a thousand orders of magnitude acceleration of your spiritual evolution.
Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord , and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
Isaiah 55:7 KJV
TheBlubunni
Few people would consider themselves to be “wicked” or “unrighteous”. Those are terms used only by “Christians” so that they can view themselves as better than they actually are. They prefer to call their own wickedness “mistakes” and they love to say “no one is perfect”. Both are total bale outs for the most vile of wicked rationalizing.
How's your fear based faith going?
"Nobody loses sleep over their treason against God but let their physical body be touched with cancer or their house be touched with rioting and then their emotions really rise up with moral indignation. Violence and suffering exist in this world as a divine witness to the meaning and seriousness and the outrage of sin against God."
Marissa Humphreys
That’s the “scared straight “ program. It’s not effective.
@@mr.c2485 I remember that from the 80's! What about the "Just Say No!"? Did not work
The best episode I have ever heard; has me in awe...
My thoughts exactly and I’m not even done as I write this!
Remy NN
You’re new at this aren’t you?
@@mr.c2485 new
Couldn’t agree more
Because when God's mercy is repeatedly rejected God's Judgement is enacted.
OOF AMEENN!
Amen
N M M
He could easily have created in a way which would have required neither.
Tim C.
You must be @pinecreek fan.
@@S.Ladd67 Hey :) would you be willing to read a book called 'More than a carpenter'? I really think it can help you with your questions
I can relate to that man, after reading the chapters of Judges to Chronicles and the Prophets, those vivid imagery would you chill you to the bone and I questioned some of it but I knew there was a purpose for each part in the Scriptures that seem violent. It made me read the Bible even deeper and see how man is in need of God's guidance and mercy...
Micah Grace
So god uses the “scared straight” program? That’s not even remotely ethical...nor is it effective.
@@mr.c2485 I don't know why certain people keep commenting to me, but I don't get what you meant by "scared straight" program, do you mean God scares the straight out of you? God doesn't use the scared straight program (if it ever was a program, which is seriously a bad term for it) rather if God decides for men to fear, it is not the kind of fear that causes man to depart from God but rather towards Him. By remotely ethical, again please phrase this specifically if by ethical by means of the "program" you mentioned or what was mentioned in the Bible about violent verses then ethics itself is of a different matter. It may not be effective for you, but many people have truly seen what God meant by using such "program" that you stated. And I encourage you to listen to the Podcast once more.
Micah Grace
There are exactly four reasons why anyone believes in a god. Three of the four involve playing on human fear.....or...the “scared straight” program.
Tim C. You sound like Mr. C. It’s fine if you agree with him. I don’t need you to agree with what I believe God is like or what the Bible say He’s like. God is not after man’s support or praise. He remains God even if we don’t praise or support Him (as if He ever needs our support or praise) And what you seem to be ethical or moral doesn’t really justify your statement because you are just making claims with no evidence or examples to back it up. Lastly, God did sent a supernatural being but more than a being, He sent Jesus Christ to tell the world about the Father, and Jesus said people like you won’t believe even if a person or supernatural being (paraphrasing) were to come, you’ll continue to question God because of your fallen nature of sin even when evidence presents itself to you He exists. It’s your problem, not the world’s.
Mr. C You clearly aren’t getting the point. I find this conversation futile so I am not obligated to reply to you. Whatever those “four reasons” are, human fear is not the only thing that makes people believe in God. I believe in God because I know Jesus died for my sins and He took away my fears and shame. Have a good day trying to cling to that “scared straight” program of yours.
One of the most common questions which gets raised and slightly surprised its taken until episode 1530 for it to come up. Good answer from Pastor John (as usual).
Thank you pastor John, like the questioner I have just finished reading the book of judges and was horified at what I read and wondered why it was in the Bible. I asked God about this and you have given me an explanation which I am so thankful for.
haha moses in your bible commend his soldiers to slave women and kill babies and donkeys and camels haha
Quran and turat and bible are great 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
John Piper explained this perfectly. God’s really given him wisdom. I think a lot of people wouldn’t know how to explain this evil while still upholding God as right.
Perfectly Radiant
Absolutely! Do as I say..not as I do..is gods forte.
Tim C.
Sad but true...
A lot of people wouldn't know how to explain this "god" because a lot of people have far more sense.
I'm glad someone asked this question and Pastor John delivered a great explanation because I was horrified after I read the Book of Joshua.
It was like the Iliad!
*He normalized murder of innocent children, mothers, brown, nlack, & yellow people. John is a osychopath. I am glad to hear it from a mentally sick serial killet*
Your initial reaction was the correct one, @Fallon Mail.
The Bible was written by humans who created a "god" in their own image.
@@peterblock6964
List the passage that says God endorsed and encouraged the violence depicted.
Stark, clear, and powerful. Thank you Pastor John.
Because people are violent. God is slow to anger and gracious with us
Ali's Big TOE
God made us that way...why are you surprised at our aggressive natures? No one can resist his will...right?
Tim C.
Not gonna happen. You’re way over his head.
@@S.Ladd67 Sending his only son to die on a cross to wash away our sins and iniquities with his own blood is all the proof we need.
@@S.Ladd67 Let God be true and every man a liar. There's archaeological evidence all over the world to prove the stories in the Bible did happen and God is real and Jesus did walk the earth all you have to do is look it up. John 3:20 for every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
@@S.Ladd67 NIV exodus 20:21 "Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt it never mentions this in the Bible.
Thank you Pastor John for walking out your gift. This truly blessed me and answered a question I've had for years. Praise the Lord!
Hating murder and violence and Evil Anna avoiding the reality of it doesn't makeyou coddled a wimpy or childish it makes you sane
Bless you Pastor John. Such a real answer
God's "violence" is righteous and justified.
Joshua Theo
I’ll take that as cynicism.
Tim C.
The way I see it...we’ve got two choices..Big Bang or creationism. Pick one and pursue it...see where it leads. That’s all we have.
Tim C.
God cannot be proven with sightings or books...neither are demonstrable. We are limited to believing things that can be observed, tested, and duplicated.
1 kings would be of great help if someone could recreate it. Just soak a bunch of wood and call on whichever god you believe in to burn it up.
Unfortunately, that’s not likely to happen. We’re stuck with asking what things are the most likely. Definitely, not a best case scenario, but it’s all we have.
Whatever the case may be, there are three things I’ve discovered that apply to every person on the planet. Following these three premises has been invaluable to me over the years in giving me perspective on all things physical and possibly spiritual. Perhaps they may be of value to you as well.....interested?
@Mr. C
Tim C.
Premise #1. We all desire the same thing...soundness of mind. One that is not moved by the whims of men or the eventualities of life.
Premise #2. Because of that fact, it stands to reason that anything that opposes that soundness must be addressed...wether positively or negatively.
Premise #3. The use of malice..in any form..compromises the ability to accomplish or adequately satisfy premise #1 thus making premise #2 a negative thing rather than a positive one.
These three can be observed and/or tested for accuracy and duplication. They can be attached to any person or life eventuality. Wether or not they become profitable can only be answered on a personal level. I invite you to test these for yourself for just 24hrs...your response is of interest to me. Thank you!
Wow, Great answer to this quesiton!! Thanks pastor John. God is Amazing and so wounderful for he restrains us from doing such harm to eachother. He showes us just how evil we all are. All goodness comes from God. There is no one righteous, no not one. We are wrong if we think there is anything good in us. God showes us how wicked the human heart really is.
Violent humans made up a violent "god."
Thank you for the great answer! 🙏🙏🙏
Wow, this is GOLDEN!!! PRAISE THE LORD JESUS!!!
Wow just wow!
Ask Pastor John to expand each point. That would be helpful as well.
This is so good.
Amen Pastor John.
Thank you so much!
Great message
God is more Good than an unjust hell is bad
Wowwwwww!!!! What a M E S S A G E!!!! A few days ago, I was talking with my sister about the prophet Elijah, which he has been reading in 1 Kings... and we made to each other the question about why a man or a prophet of GOD killed, such Elijah himself, King David?
Oholah and Oholibah Ezekiel 23... now there is something that would be hard to read publicly
Whoa this was sooooo goodddd and very affirming. He have so much hatred in our hearts how can we be surprised when this happens
Also during the era of king david was very violent.. I was enlightened by the Holy Spirit with this podcast. Thank you Lord!
Great!
Great video, Pastor are you of the belief that cancer exists because of sin, if so is that personal sin causing that person to get cancer (what about children) or the worlds sin?
I haven’t heard his personal answer to this question, but he believes in reformed theology, so I guess he would answer it along the same way I would; and like Paul did in Romans. “The fall” happened in Genesis, sin was introduced in humans and nature “fell” (a fall from perfection) with humans. Things are no longer perfect the way God created it all, and that’s why nature is subject to imperfection and disease, natural disasters etc. I definitely don’t think (from a biblical perspective) that God causes any of it, it seems more logical that these things are consequences of our own actions (cancer in children is typically caused by genetics, diseases in parents and certain bad foods that the mother eats while pregnant, like carcinogenic food which transfers to the child), and God allows it to happen. He does stop some bad things from happening, and He often heals people, but He also brings good things out of the bad :) I hope that answers your question, God bless you!
fallen world so yes that's why
It contains violent stories and passages because it was written by humans living in violent times.
were still living in violent times so doesn't count
@@marcellofunhouse1234just like many of our stories today are violent
A good reminder of how evil the Bible is, thank you.
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
It doesn't say or mention breathed out, so where did you get that from?
yes sirrrreeee pastor piper. that tree is swaying and you are the moonlight over shining the moonshine where all is semi dark and no crow knows what is before its nose, sir
12:07 Horrors shows us the dumbness of man. The love of God is there all the time, in hardship and in success, and while everything falls apart in your life, you can comfort yourself knowing that God loves us all, I, everyone, you, and all the rest. The love of God is undeniable. It's the love of mankind that is imperfect. That's why Jesus taught us to love others like he loved everyone. That's stronger than the love of a parent for the offspring, it's God's sole son delivering the message that God do love us. God do forgive us. But do we forgive one another? Do we love one another? God can show us that some people have a heart, yes. But a world that truly reflects the love of God is a world of people that undeniably loves everyone else.
Sin is so awful that death to those it fell on is merciful. Either they believed and were taken away from sin forever, or the disbelieved and were stopped from sinning further to make them have less eternal punishment.
So claimed the violent tribe authoring the Old Testament.
They created and worshipped a "god" in their own image.
You are far too credulous.
Lol
GloryGOD..." 🔥🇧🇷
Strictly, God's presentation through his word in the Gospel explains violence too well.
Strictly speaking:
Every last world of scripture was written by a human being.
Every last claim in and about scripture was/is made by a human being.
Every interpretation of scripture was/is made by a human being.
"God" has not "presented" a thing.
@@peterblock6964 Sadly, you will most surely die some day and then you will know with a clarity that you have never experienced before, that God is true and His word is true.
I truly hope you trust in Christ before that occurs because if you dont you will truly regret it and all of your arguments and disagreements with God will be held against you. Please be reconciled to God!
So, @@RenewedMind1212, you still follow the entirely human belief and entirely human claim that "God" sourced the varied writings you call the "Bible."
I don't have "disagreements with God."
I have disagreements with foolish human claims about a "god" that essentially just demands blind loyalty and offers the "reward" of being able to worship "IT" for Eternity, or the threat of excruciating suffering for Eternity for not pledging loyalty to "IT."
That "god" is nothing more than an infinitely powerful version of donald the trump.
It is a very sick figment of human imagination (and creation).
¡Wake up out of your hypnotic stupor!
May God bless you, @No Gimmicks, Just The Word , every member of your extended family and circles of friends, and every being any of you interact with in any way, with a thousand orders of magnitude acceleration of your spiritual evolution.
@@peterblock6964 It is most unfortunate and deeply distressing to me that you think that way about God; I pray one day God will open your eyes to behold His precious Son and cause you to love and adore Him...I truly hope that for you.😪
It is most unfortunate, @@RenewedMind1212, that you worship human ideas about God instead of God directly. … one day eventually …
May God bless you, @No Gimmicks, Just The Word, every member of your extended family and circles of friends, and every being any of you interact with in any way, with a thousand orders of magnitude acceleration of your spiritual evolution.
Riveting and refreshing all at the same time!
Why is the Bible so violent? Because people are sinners, and what does sin cause? Violence. Why is God violent? Because he punishes the wicked. Whoomp there it went!
The Bible is violent because humans were/are violent,
and humans wrote the Bible.
Violent humans made up and worshipped a violent "god."
What about all the babies that God wanted dead? Those babies were wicked and needed to be punished? 🤨
@@user-fq7ii3ub4m Why are you so concerned about God and babies when we have abortions being performed all around America (I'm assuming you're rom America, and if not id you're living in a developed country it's guaranteed that abortions are taking place.
I think we need to look in our own back yards before judging God on what he does there's partner. He is the author of life and death, so he gets to choose who lives and dies here, and eventually we all die here. That's a very hypocritical statement you made there, my friend.
@@therant3837 I'm not American, but whatever. Your question about abortion goes both ways. Why does God care so much about abortions when he has no issue with new-born babies dying.
Sorry, but the answer to the "why is God so violent?" question is obvious to any sane person. He's so violent because he was created by people living in a very violent age. So of course he reflects their views and principles.
@@user-fq7ii3ub4m Why is God violent? Why is man so violent? You ever ask yourself that question? Seriously why is mankind so friggin' wickedly evil?
I used to ask questions like yours then I realized it wasn't God it's US. It's US that does horrible things. People don't like being punished, and that's what God does to violent, raping, thieving, lying, hypocritical people like ourselves. Although some may not rape or murder EVERYONE is a liar, and EVERYONE has stolen SOMETHING..... most commandments we have actually broken whether we have the guts to admit it or not.
So to answer your question why is God so violent? Look at human kind and tell me we're not violent. God killed the Canaanites and their children and their babies because the curse upon them was upon their entire culture. You don't like that. You don't agree with that. That's who God is. Whether you like it or not God punishes most severely.
This is why churches all over have tried to make God seem friendlier and "nicer". That's not who God is. I've been under demonic attack since I was 7.... SINCE I WAS 7 YEARS OLD. I don't know why, but at 43 years old this is where I stand.
The Holy Spirit has spoken to me. THE DEVIL has driven me to the point of suicide and praying to God to kill me or make it so I was never born. That's what God did and has been doing to me since I was 7. I've been beaten up, flung down hallways, called a faggot and a pussy all throughout my childhood even by my own family members alongside of someone trying to KILL ME in Lake Erie by the time I was 13. Those are small tidbits of my childhood. If you like I haven't even touched the worst parts yet, nor mentioned my adult life. Nothing has ever work out for me.... ever. But this is what he wants whether I want it or not.... and most days I don't but I accept it.... wishing I would die already but I still accept it. My life has been nothing but a tragic irony.
So.... not only have I seen God's unhappy side since I was 7, I've been privy to mankind's violent and malevolent nature as well then turning back and blaming God for their punishment. Hmmmm.... another tragic irony I have to say.....
It isn't that God is so violent.... it's that sin must be punished just like everything else out there that is wrong either by a spanking or in the court room or in prison punishments exist for a reason.
Because it’s about real life the beginning and ending the good and the evil peace and war Etc... Etc...Etc... SHALL I GO ON ??? It’s about where we came from how we was created. How to live a holy life. How to change your heart and stop being evil. Etc... Etc...Etc... and the Entire Bible is The Life And Resurrection Of Jesus it’s about the Satan and his scemes it’s about the way human beings are ... the real ways of Man ... it’s about the spiritual world and the Physical World.
It's about violent real humans writing about themselves and creating a "god" to justify themselves.
Ok this is violence done by humans, but in 2. Mose there’s violence done by GOD himself, to actually innocent Egyptians, when he kills all the first borns, expect from the Israelites.
So why? Why those need to be killed? God himself made the Pharao not leave the Israelites, so the Egyptian people had nothing to do with it.
Makes me quite sad actually, even disappointed…please someone help and explain 🙏🏼
Because of The Wicked & Ruthless Deceiver Gods...
It's just a stupid, fictional book, nothing to take seriously..................(unless you're brainwashed)
Revelations
Chapter 1 verse 14/15
You skipped the main part.
❤Amen
How do I ask a question?
The Bible is violent... but that part? Not so much.
Violence is how he shows his love? Are you kidding me? This is probably the justification for all the beatings that children have had to endure at the hands of authoritarian parents and teachers and preachers. I think what is referred to as apologetics is just simply the abuse of humankind.
when people do violence their not with God so no thats not Gods love
These people just so DISGUST ME.
There is no salvation without the shedding of blood WHY ??? That one I cannot answer why blood does anyone know why blood is God’s Choice to have ??? Why Blood What’s in it for God That he Needs Shed Blood in order to forgive man of sins .
Because in the blood is life and because in life is blood if you don't have the red gooey stuff that drips from your veins you're not going to live that's why he required it it's a currency
*God inspired Pail? Then he pushed Jesus aside & became the Messiah? Confused*
■Fyi: We heard that Paul was schizophrenic & had visions/ hallucinations etc. Is his violence related to that? Jesus was 100% non-violent brown man with black curls born in Filistine?■
If it were figurative, it would have used fictive names. If he really believes there is a lesson to learn from war manuscripts, then it shouldn't be names that are applied to people living today. Nicknamed with names like amalek, esav, edom, gog, magog. This is perpetual antagonism of xenophobic proportions against outsiders and have no place in a world that wants to honor God.
Jesus taught us better.
I don't understand..
Madness
Totally agree
I meant she has been reading... not he
Question: Why do Christians always speak about God as it was a He? Does God have a gender!? Really..?
Tho this was posted a year ago. As a Christian. Its because hes often talked about as a fatherly figure. Like the "father, son and the holy spirit". I think its not meant to be taken all literally as if hes a man. I believe its more logical to think hes a spirit. But its a reason we say "he". I hope thay explains it!
The bible supports genocide, slavery, and child abuse
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The old testament is violent not the new testament
You have to remember the old testament is virtually ancient and yes these things did happen, along comes the birth of Christ ( The New Testament ) and the covenant was different, Jesus didn't work with violence
Which was horrible.. a teenager was impregnated… because God created the devil… then created humans with free will and then became mad that they exercised it…bullshit.
how to give jesus 100% I don t understand
Cancer? Really?
Amen 🙏
Probably going to get flak for this, but ‘The Lord/Yahweh’ is Satan. Jesus is the same forever and ever, and Jesus and the Father are one, correct? There’s a contradiction. Nothing Jesus ever commanded, promised or taught ever brought forth or glorified violence. Also, need I remind everyone he rebuked his own followers for wanting to call down fire on their enemies? How he preached about the sanctity and importance of children? It is also said… a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand. If Satan is referred to be the one that ‘holds the Power of Death’… does God borrow Satan’s power to kill? Of course not. Jesus says no one has ever heard his father’s voice before now… and yet then who was speaking audibly to Moses? Who spoke loudly to the Israelites? Jesus says oaths are FROM THE EVIL ONE. Who asks the Israelites to swear oaths? Yahweh/Lord, not Father. And need I also say Satan’s #1 Goal? To be worshipped as god.
Check out the Good God channel or Good God Ministries website if you want to know more. God bless.
You watch any horror movie and it is more violent and graphic than what the Bible says in just words. How many people get shot and killed in a typical action movie, anyone say anything about that ?.
People go to horror movies and love them. They want to be scared but then freak out about the violence in the Bible. I love that God doesn’t hid anything it’s part of the reason I know it’s true.
Personally, I’ve always struggled and been unable to watch horror movies. I can’t imagine anything worse. So, I struggle with the violence in the Bible.
some guy sacrificed his daughter to God can't get anymore messed up then that
Because its pure metal
I’m just like god. I enjoy leaving loaded weapons lying around the house for my kids to find. If they truly love and trust me, they will leave my things alone. If not...well...they’ve been warned. Even if my toddler shoots and kills my wife...well...we’re all better for it. How else will he learn about his nature and his responsibility to god and others.
You sound like you have no backbone and God hates cowards and will punish them. Repent we are all sinners
Sarcasm, @@zachbernabei8519, sarcasm.
@Mr. C was merely demonstration the complete atrocity of worshipping the "god" of the Old Testament.
Please, could you answer why the need for blood sacrifices?
Ezekiel 20:24-26, Jeremiah 7:21-22, Matthew 12:7
Don't assume everything the religious leaders tell you is true. Strait is the gate. Narrow the way. _Few._
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(Mark 10) And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart Moses wrote you this precept. But from the beginning of the creation it was not so...
This BOOK and YWH are made. up. hey ask about stoning children, woman not innocent when they get married, what YWH COMMANDS done to suckling infants,, to pregnant woman, YWH LAWS for SLAVES, to take innocent child slaves geee what' that about, YWH COMMANDS you to EAT FLESH and that of your children, JC COMMANDS you to be a EUNUCH, stone woman who get attacked and don't fight., a girl who dad serves YWH and not innocent is to be barbie qued. I can go for a week.
Written by violent people i guess😂😂😂😂😂
God did not write any of it! He was busy creating more worlds!
All scripture is inspired...but can we question as to what is truly scripture?
I am not convinced that everything we call the Bible is truly God breathed. This guy is just talking...but common senses will prevail.
I love the word of God...but some of the stuff in the bible...which has nothing to do with salvation...God will have to tell and explain to me in his time. Right now. . I refuse to believe that my Father God breathed some of those things. They simply have no value and has been used by wicked man to justify all kinds of offenses to humanity.
There is not one word of "scripture" in the world not written by a human being.
There is not one claim in or about "scripture" not made by a human being.
There is not one interpretation of "scripture" not made by a human being.
This goes for all scriptures of all religions anywhere on Earth.
True, there are plenty of spiritually valuable excerpts among the world's religious writings.
¿But "God breathed?" NO.
Paul of the NT was a fallible human.
Just because Paul believed what he wrote doesn't make it accurate.
There is also the possibility that he didn't actually 100% believe what he wrote.
¿How many examples can you find of humans telling others what to believe-not because it was true, but because they felt it was "for the best" for those others to believe whatever it is they were supposed to believe?
Parents to their children
Shepards to their "flock"
Thanks Glad someone knows THE TRUTH. Hey try christendumb2 he is awesome at showing this book for what it is.
Snowflakes are everywhere these days
Well, there is not a single unique "god" in the Old Testament.
There are multiple "gods" being worshipped in the Old Testament.
There are two possibilities:
1) The Hebrews made up a "god" to justify atrocities as they needed.
2) The Hebrews, at least in some of their books, essentially worship one or more demons.
Even the possibility that they had encountered non-human beings from outer space is a million times more plausible to explain Deuteronomy than the "God" it describes.
It is a very naive and immature claim that "scriptures" are the "Word of God."
Every last word of every last scripture on Earth was written down by a fallible human being.
Every last claim in or about these scriptures was/is made by a fallible human being.
Every last interpretation of these scriptures was/is made by a fallible human being.
This is indisputable FACT.
This must be acknowledged by everyone for humanity as a whole to make any further spiritual progress at all.
May God bless you Pastor John, every member of your extended family and circles of friends, every one of your TH-cam subscribers, and every being any of you interact with in any way, with a thousand orders of magnitude acceleration of your spiritual evolution.
YWH Council.
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Simply because God can be evil
SUMMARY: "God" loves REVENGE
Justice
The OT itself, @@zaynymcjr6175, describes its "God" as vengeful, wrathful, jealous, etc.