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Charging Batteries for FPV
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
- Learn to FPV Episode 9
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Oh hell, you mean these can be recharged? Geez, if only I'd known I could have saved myself a fortune on buying new ones! Where was this video when I needed it? :-)
Oh Bruce, are you having one of those days????
That was a joke right? 😂¿?
@@jonashediger182 ofcourse hes kidding dude its xjet
Wow I just looked at your channel and found out your from nz
Hello from Invercargill
@@Izard-wn6cc Howdy mate. Drop in if you're ever passing by.
Jeff sounds like Bob Ross on this series. 🌲🎨
I was charging with a parallel board. When I was finished I unplugged the charger from the socket and let go of the cord. It flipped around and landed with one of the prongs of the wall plug shorting out the positive and negative of one of the empty xt30 plugs on the parallel board. Sparks flew and it sounded like a welder. It actually welded the plug to the xt30. I had to yank it off the parallel board. It melted the wall plug prong and there is a weld ball on that particular xt30 plug so it can't be used anymore. So first unplug your batteries from the parallel board, then unplug the charger from the wall. This is a fused parallel board and it did not blow a fuse, so don't trust them.
I started my drone obsession 3 years ago and I'm still using the first two lipo batteries I got at the start, and I have been charging them just as this video states from day one which confirms that if you charge you battery right it will keep on going. I'd also like to say these videos are great and very helpful to new pilots.
what brand ?? thanks
@@sammy5576 The batteries I'm still using are 3s 2200mah 25c Floureon lipo batteries. I have found them to be very sturdy and stable, and after a nasty crash the only damage I had on one was the balance plug got destroyed but it was simple to replace and it's still going strong.
Great video and thank you for keeping people safe, I'd like to add just two things that could really help people.
1. If you have a smart charger and a parallel board I would recommend storage charging all your batteries first, it doesn't take long and gets all the cells even, then get them on the parallel board.
2. Please double and triple check the connectors when plugging in your batteries to parallel boards, slightly touching the positive to negative can cause huge sparks and even fires.
Balance charging is absolutely safe, I'd recommend a balance board with at least 15amp fuses, just watch a few videos and get a collective opinion and NEVER leave batteries charging unattended.
People joke but houses have burned down.
Be responsible, take care and you will be having fun and flying more than ever :)
FPVLuke 1 is completely unnecessary. Simply connecting them together on the balance board will balance them out. Each battery could be completely different and within 5 minutes, they will all be the same.
@@VORT3XFPV I thought it would be worth mentioning as it will prevent people connecting batteries with vastly different cell voltages which would be an issue :)
Great video. I would recommend doing another video about storage charging because it was only very briefly touched on in this one. I did not know about storage charging LiPos for a long time and ended up shortening the life on tons of batteries because I always left them charged, not to mention that they are safer stored at a storage voltage rather than full. Learning about that earlier could have saved me a bit of money.
this hobby has been around for a while right? how have they not invented batteries that don't need to be babysat like this yet? the DJI fpv drone has this and its one of the reason I think beginners should be getting that drone versus these. If you happen to forget you left a battery on the charger, it could start a fire and burn your house down
Well I'm fucked cuz I left the gas stove burner on when I ran to the gas station the other day.. realized halfway there and just turned straight around to get home asap lol... guess I'll be charging outside...
Charging in cold weather bad?? I live in arkansas so it doesn't get much bellow freezing if even that cold. 35-40°F average coldest Temps here
Sweet Jesus. I already know how to take care of lipos, but I watched this right before bed and had a realistic lipo house fire nightmare! Do not watch this right before bed.
6:45 "boom you're in the game" 🤔hopefully not literally 😂😂😂
First actual informative video about batteries God bless your heart sir !!! Thank you !
Also never hurts to charge in your OVEN!!
This Playlist looks super useful to beginners. Thanks a lot! You just need to link them to this. 👍🏼
Great video. Getting in drones and fpv drones and looking for everything needed and I guess I found the right channel to know everything I need to know. Keep with the good work 😜
As a newcomer to fpv this battery business makes my brain hurt.
Another great, informative video. ⚡💯👍
3:55 I learned something (and I’ve been flying since 2015!)
Ah the C is already used for capacity 👍
Thank you. This was very helpful!
Great video thanks!
Is it possible that Ive found the most sleep inducing video on youtube?
Jeeezus… this took me 3 different sessions to complete. 😴
Love the Liftoff music in the intro.
Don't you have a volume control?
Does the charging process happen through the xt60 or the balance lead? If it happens through the balance lead then whats the reason for plugging in the xt60? Thanks.
I wish they could make these things as user friendly and easy as the DJI drone batteries. You just put them on a charger, done. No specifics, just plug it in when you want to fly, and it will discharge on it's own if left to sit for awhile.
it would probably add weight to the battery if there is a automated discharge technology integrated as in the DJI LiPo's. As I was flying DJI drones as well before I started this amazing fpv quad hobby, I was extremely afraid about the batteries with all these warning signs attached, etc. Now, I use decent chargers and know what I am doing. Therefore I am no longer as afraid as before. I exclusively use ISDT parts (3x D2 Chargers and 6x ISDT PC-4860 parallel boards for 4 LiPos each). :)
my batterie only says "dont charge above 5c", so i can charge at 5c or should i should go save with 1c?
hey for all the new flyers you should by a fire retardant battery bag and charge it in there but dont fully close it so the battery can ventilate and cool of and not get to hot because they will explode if they get to hot
I come from the world of high powered flashlights and vaping.
One of the things you learn there is how important it is to keep your batteries matched or "married" when you connect them in parallel. I am shocked to see that something like this balance board or balance lead even exists.
No I don't wonder anymore how lipo fire occurs. I think it is highly irresponsible to hook up a bunch of batteries all together and treat them as one.
There must only be one pack with high internal resistance and the charger won't notice and this thing goes up in flames.
That's exactly the same what happend to the unbalanced 5S Pack that was mentioned minutes before in this video....
Don't trust those parallel boards! I've had batteries blow when the fuse popped it just kept charging. Then poof! Up in smoke.
I saw JB making a video on over charging and it actually seems to take a lot of abuse so it does not seem that easy to make them explode, but perhaps that changes from brand to brand? Thanks great series.
i charged a lipo on the HV switch
Ehmmm you don't wanna charge it on hv daily and regularly. HV stands for high voltage and its for certain batteries that are capable of doing hv. If your normal battery is getting charged in hv Everytime then it will ware out and degrade in a month. You can still charge a normal lipo in hv but not every time.
Where’s the link for the parallel cords/cables you referred to in the video?🤷🏾♂️
i charged my new 4s tattu lipo this morning with cell1) 7,6ohm cell2) 7,6ohm cell3) 9,6ohm cell4) 4,5ohm ok so big difference between cell 3 and 4 i used it and charged it maximum 4 times since i bought it. Is the cell 4 broken and i need to throw it you think? the voltage in all cells looks very very good and even when i charge.
Awesome guys, this was the information i was looking for, for a while. haha.
Any reasons you don't charge in a fireproof bag?
Damn jeff I'm so glad I watch this video I've never seen the isdt Chargers used before and never really thought about watching a video on it now I want one!!
Where do we get the parallel cables from if rotor riot is out of stock???
Getfpv.com
you know about battery fire don't you ;)
Charging in 1C is not going to be 30-40 mins. It will be 70-80 minutes with proper rate. 1000mAh is straight 1Ah, that mean 1 Amp for an hour.
Is it really considered safe to charge 3C and more on LiPo? I might be too old, though :) New technologies?
What about safety bags? Those which used for preventing fire.
Parallel charge is on one hand a way to charge a lot of batteries faster together, and a way to escalate difference between cells inside batteries on the other hand. In short - got a lot and can get more: group charge. Care of only two you have - one-by-one charge at 1C ONLY.
Excuse me if i'm wrong! Just an opinion. Didn't have any accidents, but still using a safety bag for sure :)
Well... safety bag sounds a lot like a condom, isn't it... (facepalm on myself) Ok, it does similar job too...
Oh! And can you please add information about "how to extinguish LiPo fire and how definitely not to do it"? Water will make more fire, rather then stop it.
You seem to forget that you're not charging from 0C all the way up to 1000, therefore it is not going to take that long.
@@dwayneh3010 Well, most of the time, when i charge with liPoly balancer i see almost the same capacity as it should take. For example on my 2s pack i've got 2500mAh capacity and 2350 is still charging in after a flight. I'm not an aggressive pilot, so i consider it fair :)
The only thing that i know for an extreme certain: every parameter depends on pilot :)
Me on my way to decide to do something wrong to set my house on fire
So if you charge a 2000mah battery at 3c then you are charging at 6a?
(New to this and wanted to clarify!)
That is how I understand it
@@1989bg2008 Thanks!
you should really nit go above 2a for 2000mah anything above 2A is charging it faster and 90 minutes is considered "safe charging" anything above is increasing risk of fire and if you check how lipo battery fire looks like it will give you nightmares lol thats all i could gather so far
I brought a hota d6 charger, but has no AC input like a hota pro, how can I solve this? I need a AC input
I discharged my 4s 1500mah lipo to 11 volts can I still fly with it?
Finally something about charging, do you have some videos about radio signals, frequencies how to set all etc please? @Jeff Orta
In the end, you may still find yourself running out of the shop during a lipo fire with nothing but tape in your hands... :)
my battrie got 450mah, i can only setup my charger for 400mah or 500mah
jeff seems like such a nice person.
I have a traxxas battery and a traxxas charger and my traxxas battery doesn't have a balance lead I just plug the one cable into the charger but all my other lipo batteries all have balance leads why is that with the traxxas battery?
You can get a something that stops charging the battery when fully charged
Lipo is dead at 3.7 volts per Cell???? Storage is like 3.8 and under 3.0 is dead. 3.5 is landing time. I dont destroy a lipo for years now, is that wrong what i think??
Yeah, 3.7 is nominal, 4.2 is full and very close to depleted at 3.0
Question: 1 of 4 of the 4s batteries that came in Eachine Novice 4 rtf kit. it's stuck at 10.2 ..then slowly drop instead of going up to 15 .2 .
Is charging in 1c the same for ALL batteries or only above 1000mah?
StickyRice Same for all. So if it was a 350mah, you would charge at 0.3 amps for a 1c rate.
@@VORT3XFPV Thanks!!! ohh one last, the currect draw in the OSD is that a combined current draw for all 4 motors or for 1?
I have rdq lipos and torn balance lead off cell what should I do? It's aluminum so solder won't stick..
just straight avoid exposed connectors like those "banana" ones if u can...if your charger has only the exposed plugs you can put exetensions on em for any plug youll need and glue the things in so they dont come out, the contacts only need to touch for a tiny fraction of a second to fuse toegther and that battery WILL go off.
Is it bad that I've hot glued mine onto the charger?
@@Erkle64 hehe, I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but hey whatever works...
Can I charge iflight batteries with a traxxas balance charger?
so if im charging 3 x 4s batteries 850mah in parallel at 1c does that mean 3x850mah = approx 2.5amps? thats what i set my ISDT charger at ?
Thank you for the video, very informative..
can i charge a baterry at the half of its rate?
charge a 1000mah in a .5amp rate?
Yes it will just take longer time
The discharge function on the four button charger isn't for when you have a bad battery, it's for when you have a full battery that you aren't going to use for a while. Probably should've mentioned that it's not good for lipos to stay fully charged for long.
Pile of carbon No, that’s what storage mode is for. But yes, it would have been good to mention not to leave them charged. There will also be a video on choosing batteries, I will definitely talk about that there.
@@VORT3XFPV Just tried it and holy crap do I stand corrected. Just because it says "Storage _charge_" it never occurred to me that's how it works and I've been at this for two years. I guess something like "Storage program" would've made it more intuitive. I definitely learned something today. Thanks a bunch! =)
@@brandon9689 Nice necro post. Short answer: No. Go away,
ProgressiveRC chargers best chargers.
Yah never realized people charged without the balance plug... like that’s kinda stupid af
Thanks that helpd
Thank you very helpful
when u should always balance charge, how in the hell do you charge a 1s or 2s lipo ?????
A 2s usually has two leads (a discharge and a balance lead) so you can balance that. In the case that your using a 1s or a 2s with one lead then it's always balance charged with that one cable.
@@orechris21 i figured that out after 3 months xD kinda makes sense, since on a 1s there is only 1 cell to charge lol
So you're saying i need to watch my battery's charge???
Hello, I have "4S 450mAh" batteries please could you tell me, what amount "A" is necessary to charge these batteries?
.5 amp at most 1.5amp
The 4 button charger is dc also so dont get confused guys.
learning how to charge lipos from a guy whose had 2 fires! great idea
Learn what not to do from someone who's made a mistake. That way you know how it was caused and how to avoid it. No?
Way better than learning from someone who is overconfident from never having had anything go bad
Sorry I am even more confused now. I bought a IDST charger from GEPRC with my Cinelog 30. They sent me a charger with a European or Chinese plug. The manual is nothing but electrician jargon. Reading comments on this video that contradict stuff you're saying makes it even worse. How are new pilots supposed to learn this unless we have engineering degrees? Can anyone show me a more dumbed down video?
Could you do a video about Dead battery's, when they are too puffy and killing them? I ve seen many people going around with really puffy lipos, cuz they don't know when and how to kill them
Good idea, I read that you were supposed to put em in a saltwater bucket for a couple hours to get them to zero volts... Seemed fishy to me so I brought them to a batterydisposal and they took care of it for me (even they it seemed they had no idea what lipos were as they just chucked them in a bin with different batteries, not my problem though 😅)
Torin_ Plays We do have a video on how to dispose batteries.
What if my charger doesnt have a balance lead
Can you parallel charge different capacity batteries; example a mix of 4s 1500mAh & 1300mAh?
Did you found out about this?
@@walasfilms I'm not sure I did, never got into parallel charing. I charge two packs at a time at 3C so it goes by pretty quick .
I really wished he showed everything. Idk what was happening off camera...
Ok so I’m a little confused here. I’ve got some 1300 mah 4s batteries that I have for my 5” (let’s just say my frame hasn’t came yet😉) and when I storage charge them it only goes up to 1.0 A I’m not sure if it’s the charger or what (charger is venom pro duo, there chargers now I wish I bought instead of this but I’m not gonna fuss with it). If anyone can answer my question I’ll be really appreciative.
One of my old quad charger hitec only storage charge at 1 amp so I just normal charge at 1c to 3.83 soon as I am the small ball park I put in storage after load it released 3.8.1 give or take takes like 5 minutes and stops at storage voltage.
why the heck does the batterys have to be so confusing???
I never understood DC chargers, if you got a charge a battery with a battery what are you gaining? But what do I know, maybe you can charge four batteries with just one battery
R u trolling ?
@@AverageAtQuads lol no, I guess I realized that you would have to have a really big battery that you could charge a little batteries with. Or some sort of power supply at all so still makes no sense to me
Im completely new at drones as a whole. I'm wanting to build a cinewhoop as my first drone, so I am doing a lot of research and video watching to get an understanding. So I have been researching batteries at this moment, this was good info on the breakdown of the label. Hypothetically asking, a 4s 60c 1500mah battery can fly X mins of flight time, now doubling from 1500mah to 3000mah should technically almost to double flight time. Also lets say the motor and props are accounted for to handle the extra weight. Now other than additional weight added from the larger capacity battery, would there be any other problems that could be created from extended flight times? Seems like if everything is accounted for properly, I shouldn't experience any issues during flight..
learning with professor yaa Boooi is fun :p
I overcarged my battery to 4.6v, but it survived.😬
Helo i have a question my charger is max 5A en my battery is 7600mah so it's not on 1c is it bad ??
i don't think so, its just slower
For the battery it's actually even better, there are some people that swear that 0,5c charge rate is the best... But Vale is right, only noticeable thing is that it'll take longer than usual
Thank you guys i appreciated 👍
I heard 1min in the microwave is = to 1c
This guy is the perfect person to explain batteries.
Somehow these videos do not appear in the subscriptionbox at all, that would explain the low views I think
Dude, a DC charger is to charge in the field off your car. You didnt even mention that.
Mike Hogue That’s not the sole purpose of it and you can also do that with an AC charger. In fact they’re actually called AC/DC chargers because they can do both.
@@VORT3XFPV The primary operation of a "DC" charger is for in the field.
i uh had my charger smoking, oops
Miiliamp HOURS!!! Look on the friggin battery label, it says mAh, not mA. What do you think the h is for? its not silent! It means HOURS as is milliamp Hours. Milliamp is a unit of current, milliamp hour is the unit on energy that you are interested in. You can't just shorten it to milliamp; you are talking about something completely different and confusing all the new people watching this video!
Do as he says not as he does lol
it would've been nice of you to show when you ran like a headless chicken when that LiPo went on fire in your last job, Jeffrey!
Dario HxC I considered it, lol
@@VORT3XFPV still you are my fav pilot! keep on the hard work! cheers from Ecuador!
im here hi guys
Just show them
how to grab the duck tape an run!
15:44
Second
c means coulomb
Don't charge your batteries like vanover kids...
Please lose the background music in future educational videos. There should not be any background music for this type of video. It's particularly distracting to have soft music with a soft voice narrative. The repetitive cymbal tic is like hearing a leaky faucet drip.
Triggered. Sensory overload. Stfu and grow up. Appreciate the free things.
@@SuperSigma69 I'm sincerely sorry to see such a strong emotional overreaction to someone else being given constructive criticism. I hope you can attain a more mature emotional response, rather than having a reaction to such things in the future. I do appreciate the free things, including ones that come from a commercial company such as RR. Constructive criticism is a way to give back, to show opportunities for improvement.
Love your guys videos but you really should jntroduce yourself before speaking, there may be people that don't know who you are