Yes, it has a volume knob. This is proof that Honda is listening. Now, if only they would bring back the tuning knob. I'd like to hear thoughts about the speedometer. The needle is gone in favour of a number. From a human factors perspective, which is better? I can't see the Germans dropping the needle.
Hopefully the redesign will have a boxier more classic SUV styling versus just a shortened Pilot like we see here. I don't mind the new Passport and I kinda want one, a Sport AWD is all I need.
I really like this "tweener" or "Goldilocks" size crossover category. If the compact class averages around 182" in length and most "midsize" class vehicles average around 197", the 190" Passport is a great size. I'd add several contenders other than the ones mentioned. (e.g. Edge, Murano, and Grand Cherokee). The KIA Sorento at 189" is in the same class while offering an occasional use third row. And the Hyundai Santa Fe at 188" falls in the same group though it offers only a turbo 4 engine rather than the V6 that's standard or optional in most others. Finally, the Subaru Outback is an obvious contender in the same category. I do understand the desire to avoid "taking other kids to soccer practice" by opting out of a third row of seats but I gotta say that as the father of a 14 y/o daughter it sometimes it comes with the territory. In addition, when the need arises to transport six or seven passengers for non-soccer related activities it's very convenient to avoid taking two vehicles. Of the crossovers in this category only the Sorento offers that capability. (BTW, when we purchased our first three row crossover in 2012 my wife swore me to secrecy about the existence of the third row so she wouldn't be pegged as a "soccer mom." She has become less sensitive about the label in recent years.) Another small point. The underfloor storage in the cargo area is admittedly useful and several of the two row vehicles in this category offer versions of it. The space is available because there's no need to stow a third row of seats. But reviewers fail to point out that access to that space requires that the cargo floor above is empty. So for concealed storage of items like a laptop or other relatively flat items or stowing items that are seldom used, it's useful. But not as useful as cargo space that can be accessed on, rather than under, the cargo floor. And a cargo cover accomplishes the same concealment function. Neither the Passport nor the 2019 Santa Fe was available when we shopped for a "tweener" size crossover last year. We didn't take a serious look at the Murano or the Outback, primarily because of the CVT as the only transmission option. And our local Jeep dealers all left me with a feeling I had to clean the oil off my clothes after dealing with a salesperson. We did look seriously at the Ford Edge Sport (the predecessor of the Edge ST) but the family crossover is my wife's daily driver and she didn't like it as much as I did. I loved the Edge's 2.7L twin scroll turbo but I have a GTI for driving thrills. My wife was less impressed. That left the Sorento for us. Had the Passport been available when we were shopping I'm sure we would have considered it. Honda does a great job in designing vehicles with thoughtful and quality features. I'd probably be skeptical about the nine speed transmission but most reviewers agree that the kinks have been worked out. And I'm no fan of the replacement of a traditional shifter design with buttons on the center console but that's something one gets used to, I suppose. I do think that Honda missed an opportunity to give the Passport a more distinctive interior by largely duplicating the Pilot's. Perhaps they'll remedy that in the next model year. I'd probably still go with the 2019 Sorento based on the versatility provided by the occasional use third row of seats and what I strongly suspect is a real world price point several thousand dollars less than a comparable Passport. But the Passport would be a close second place for our family.
They're nearly the same size. The Passport is only two inches longer. But the Santa Fe is essentially a 2017 KIA Sorento two-row crossover with the same turbo4 engine, the same 8 speed transmission as the 2019 Sorento and some appealing bells and whistles. The Passport offers considerably more cargo space (at least as Honda measures it) and a V6 naturally aspirated engine. In terms of performance, at least 0-60, they're likely to be very close. At the top trim levels the Honda is substantially more expensive, especially in "real world" pricing that comes with a serious negotiation with a dealer. They're both appealing vehicles in the same size category but I suspect that relatively few consumers will be cross shopping them.
This is the first time I've heard someone actually refer to the capability of the passport as "Light Offroading" and I'm happy someone finally said it.
@@tonytanti8138 Just bought a set of Bridgestone Blizac WS80 winter tires for my wife's Civic at $130 per tire. Same exact tire for the Passport is $228. I'd say that $400 a set is a pretty big difference.
I hope it doesn't have the same infotainment system as my 2019 Pilot. The U.S. law firm of Hagens Berman Sobol Shapiro are preparing a Class action lawsuit against Honda(link below) for their 2018 Honda Odysseys and 2019 Honda Pilots like mine due a defective and dangerous infotainment system. Honda withheld this information. Had it made it public I never would have bought my Lemon Pilot that has given me so much stress since I purchased it. In my humble opinion, Honda dealerships should not ethically be selling defective vehicles that may endanger people's lives (instrument cluster goes dead) and cause so many people so many headaches. It goes against any reasoning. People buy a brand new vehicle to be worry free. It is deceitful to sell a vehicle Honda knows to have a serious problem. It is not normal to have to strip the interior of a brand new vehicle from dash to tailgate including seats and ceiling to rewire it and have the owner suffer the consequences of loose connectors and misinstalled panels. The law firm just reposted one of my videos on TH-cam. Here is the link: th-cam.com/video/Wx6uiQpxHCk/w-d-xo.html My other audio/screen/infotainment issues: [url]th-cam.com/video/CLbu0N-zfr0/w-d-xo.html[/url] [url]th-cam.com/video/SucLS0ZeZH4/w-d-xo.html[/url] [url]th-cam.com/video/aCc2sEefISo/w-d-xo.html[/url] Video1A: th-cam.com/video/xtB0YSUksnA/w-d-xo.html Video1B: th-cam.com/video/_f3ckCo32oM/w-d-xo.html Video 1C: th-cam.com/video/K-v4f1BipUE/w-d-xo.html Video2: th-cam.com/video/E_Wgs6T-3M0/w-d-xo.html Video3:th-cam.com/video/ddPEU_j57V8/w-d-xo.html www.carcomplaints.com/news/2019/honda-odyssey-pilot-infotainment-lawsuit.shtml If you have any of these issues please contact me or the law firm. www.classaction.org/news/class-action-filed-over-alleged-problems-with-honda-odyssey-pilot-infotainment-system
Not sure if i can continue with honda, we've had 3 crv ,, 2006, 2008, 2014, they all have had the same jerkinginess at 2 and 3rd speeds, which required a 3x transmission fluid drain and refill, even when following the mi.
Can you get apple carplay along with the navigation that comes with the Honda passport. So you would have backup navigation in case you were somewhere with no cell service ?
I completely agreed with your preference of the chrome. I am sure most people do not want the ugly black look. Also why did they enlarge the wheel: The 18" on my RDX was plenty. You did not mention the most important: AWD. Is it the same as SH-AWD? I also liked that you mentioned the different trim prices. Most reviewers only tested the most expensive trim which was not chosen by most buyers.
I like that Honda is adding the Passport....it’s needed even if a 5 passenger Pilot in concept. They need to work harder on exterior style as competition is fierce and style too generic.....and pricing seems out of whack even if it’s a high quality suv...price matters.
Zack although size wise the Passport competes with the Grad Cherokee price wise it is in competition with the Cherokee. Three questions: 1. how do you compare Jeep and Honda improvements made to the 9th speed (did Jeep do as well as Honda)? 2. which one do you find more fun to drive (Jeep Trailhawk V6 or Passport)? 3. which one is more comfortable on pothole ridden streets? Thanks!
I think both have improved the 9-speed. You cannot compare a compact SUV with a mid-size, they feel very different. The Cherokee Trailhawk was surprisingly comfy to drive, not rough at all. The Passport does feel the bumps.
Hey Zak....decide this for me, my husband and I keep squabbling over what we need now instead of what we may need later. Im due for a new car, Ive been driving my 2006 Acura TL for 14yrs and at 310k, I can tell the little repairs here and there means I need a new car to drive for another 15yrs because the bills keep adding up. We have a 3yr old son and we talk about having another child...when? I dont know. I want to get the Pilot, it will accommodate our small family now but also I drive my parents and my nephew around quite a bit. My husband wants to plan for now and go with the Passport. Its not like we get a new car every 2yrs, whatever car we decide to get, it will be for another 10+yrs. Help me?!!!
If you need to take more than 5 people on a regular basis than a pilot would be a better choice. If you are planning on being a family of four and don't need the third row then the Passport be great
Why would you want chrome? Chrome is the most horrible thing to exist on a vehicle only compared with piano black on the steering wheel (which this vehicle has).
Its a stupid feature to save (miniscule) fuel consumption, in expense for additional wear and tear on the starter. And with vehicles becoming more and more non-DIY'er friendly, that's an additional cost for a long term maintenance of the vehicle.
I have a 2018 odyssey, and I’m so glad my engine idle stop feature broke. When I go to local Honda do service, I specifically tell them DO NOT fix the engine idle stop function! It’s so damn annoying to have it on.
Almost got the Passport until I came across the Kia Telluride. I know the Telluride is a 3 seater, but I plan on keeping that 3rd seat down all the time. It's MUCH nicer, and more bang for your buck.
No mention of the V6 in your review? I think that’ll be a major reason why people will choose this over the many turbo 4’s out there. I’d also be interested in hearing how the “Snow” setting works. How does it change the driving dynamics? Is it a setting that is to be used all winter or just if you are driving in loose snow (during a storm). Thanks for providing a Canadian perspective on your reviews.
I want the chrome! I don't know why Honda tried to create an aura of this being an off-roader, 4-Runner competitor. It isn't. Get rid of the black plastic and put a nice chrome grill on.
Good review on the Passport. One quirk was when he said "Nissan" and same thing with "Mazda" before LOL. Not to be rude, but is that a Canada thing? :O #Sorrynotsorry
But this stupid trend where auto manufacturers think that over-use of BLACK is anything but U G L Y is totally stupid! Why the hell don’t they ask us what we actually want??
Three domestics(Grand Cherokee, Edge, Blazer) and a CVT bubble from Japanese Chrysler, this thing will sell like hot cakes. Never understood why Toyota discontinued the Venza when SUV’s sales were picking up across all lines.
The Venza and the Honda Crosstour occupied a product space all their own. And unfortunately for Toyota and Honda almost no one liked either one. They each lacked essential design features of a crossover, the higher "command" driver's seating position and the perceived image of greater "safety". Though often not recognized it was those features that made crossovers especially appealing to women and among the most important reasons that CUV sales have come to dominate the entire marketplace. In short, it's females that have driven the market to SUV's and away from minivans and station wagons. Toyota and Honda simply misread their market research.
I was surprised at the lack of mentioning of Blazer and New Santa Fe. The 2 row, 5 passenger segment is definitely growing, and it's one that I prefer. And I don't mind not having chrome. I prefer having body color but that doesn't seem to be a thing anymore.
I like Honda reliability. I currently own a Honda CR-Z, a lawn mower and a generator ! I drive in sand (South) and snow (north) and I like to drive. If the value for this vehicle stays as strong as my quirky Lil CR-Z I think I may have a garage for it.
Canadian models always get a few goodies that the U.S. doesn't have.... I love Honda but you suck sometimes.... Give us all the goodies like the Canadian and the Chinese Hondas...
Yeah, they need a TRUE off-road version, with 18" wheels. This should NOT have anything bigger than 19" if they want to be able to say it's off-road capable...with 20 or bigger, it most certainly is NOT capable of off-road, not beyond gravel roads and sandy, flat soil.
I do NOT like the sun roof either. It is an overrated accessory. However, with any Honda you will get "stuck" with a sunroof, unless you buy the base trim.
Really liked it ... then test drove it. The gear shifter buttons are annoying (I can picture my dog stepping on it as he hops from the back to the front seat - yes he does that to sit on my wife's lap) and the ride was not like other Honda's. I didn't like it. I own the Ridgeline and it has a great ride. This one however was a bit chopping feeling. Hard to explain but I was surprised (not in a good way). The seats were also not as comfortable as the Ridgeline. Not impressed. There is a lot of room but just too many shortcomings for me and it's relatively expensive for its class. I ended up buying a Grand Cherokee. Great incentives and loaded up for under $40k (with incentives the Limited was $36k - leather, heated seats and steering wheel, big nav screen, Apple and Android car play, off-road features for those snowy winter days, great stereo, etc.) and my wife likes driving it. You need to check out the Grand Cherokee if you are serious about buying the Passport.
+Trey Drier Weird I had the complete opposite experience. I was legit shocked at how well the Passport rides and how comfortable it is. And I test drove the Tiguan literally right after and it wasn't even close. I havent driven a GC since 2017 but back then for the price the interior was ancient and ride quality was ok but jeep isn't anywhere near honda in terms of reliability if you're buying.
True. My original point I wanted to say was 6 inches in length doesn't really differentiate the Passport and Pilot. The CR-V will probably get similar 'manly' exterior design when it's time for the Mid-Cycle Refresh to better compete with the RAV4's new rugged exterior.
I always like when they talk about departure angles and off road chops. like anyone is taking this off road. if you want to go off road, you'll drive a jeep or a 4runner. these are for people who want to portray the image of a rugged outdoorsman.
Much like the Ridgeline. Colorado, ranger both are a more of a truck yet Honda is selling the Ridgeline starting at 40 while the ranger is 32ish. I don't get it.
I think this hits the mark perfectly for most families but I agree with you, all of that black is too much. Especially those black wheels... yuck. I'd love to see a gun metal on that trim and wheels with a similar interior trim.
This guy doesn't know what he is talking about when it comes to the trim levels. Passport has 4 trim levels not 3. And not all the accessories he talks about go with the Touring.
This thing is a failure. Looks just like every other honda suv. The interior is boring too!! I would of traded my Element for it but i will have to wait. KIA may end up taking my money. The Telluride is awesome!
I may be alone in thinking this, but I think this vehicle is a mistake for Honda. Mostly because of price and brand image. Price conscious Honda buyers tend to be too conservative and safe. So the bigger Pilot is still going to grow. But Honda will not swing many new buyers, over from a Grand Cherokee or the Toyota’s. They may pick up a few Ex-Rogue buyers. If I were Honda ... I would re-invent their Accord wagon, but this time make it AWD. (Toyota, same as they did to their Camry years ago). That market is mostly open and unexploited. Thanks for the video.
You may not be alone but if you think Honda can capture many sales with an Accord wagon in North America, you can organize a convention of your fellow believers in a very large phone booth. If you do, invite me. I love wagons, too, but I don't kid myself that they can stop the crossover juggernaut.
Sadly... they got rid of all the phone booths (boxes), around the same time as they got rid of those Honda/Toyota wagons. So... I may be alone - after all.
It looks like a lifted up minivan and not a rugged vehicle. For the same price you can buy a Toyota 4Runner, which is everything opposite this so called SUV is.
Fred Johnson Honda has no heritage with off roading likeToyota. They can stick to their unreliable turbo engines and lawnmowers lol. The 4Runner is part of Toyota’s DNA in off-roading.
How the F#@K does low profile all-season tires on 20 inch wheels make that Passport anywhere remotely rugged....?? Oh wait, it has a volume knob, guaranteed ruggedness😏
Like always, Honda ripping people off. Making an off road rated vehicle without a built in towing system, and they want $2600 dollars for it as an extra. The Toyota Tacoma is cheaper, can tow more and is better off road, comes with all towing equipment installed. Whose gonna buy the Passport?
@@kennybrooks8374 As an avid GTI owner my wife and I looked seriously at both the Atlas and the (North Americanized) Tiguan last year. (It's called the Tiguan "AllSpace" in other markets.) After being burned repeatedly by trying to sell European versions of their vehicles to Americans, VW has clearly decided that bigger is better and humungous is better than big. :) Perhaps because I'm accustomed to the performance of my GTI I found the Tiguan to be rather gutless unless it was set to "sport" mode. That might have been an unfair judgment but that's how it felt. Of course, VW offers a third seat option for a measly $500 USD in the Tiguan but I think that's meant to be a joke on Americans. As for the Atlas, my wife is the daily driver of the family SUV and she (and I) thought it was simply too damn big for our needs or wants. Further, the 2018 model reserved several important features (e.g. navigation) for the top trim, very expensive version of the Atlas and that version was nowhere to be found when we were shopping. I believe they may have corrected that for 2019. All in all, I think the Atlas is an excellent choice for a large family with multiple adults and teenagers, especially if the kids play football or basketball. It has the most accommodating third row of any "midsize" crossover. Personally, though, I'd rather have the new version of the Touareg but VW has decided it (rightly) that Americans won't pay for it. It will be interesting to see if we're prepared to pay for the forthcoming Arteon.
@@Brian-jv8iy Can't speak specifically of Canadians but the CC was a long term sales disaster for VW in the US. They sold fewer than 25,000 CC's in the last five years. And in 2018 VW sold 455 CC's in the US.I really liked the CC but I was one of very few Americans who did. As for Canadians, their taste in European brands is relatively stronger than the US but with a population a tenth the size of the US, sales in Canada, alone, aren't sufficient to support any brand. The bottom line is that Americans, unlike Europeans, have never seen VW as a premium brand. As for the Arteon, I wish VW luck but in an atmosphere where sedans of all kinds are cratering, I'm not optimistic. carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-data/volkswagen/volkswagen-cc/
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Boxy is good design for SUV.
I hate Chrome..love the black
Honda products are notoriously reliable and durable.
Duh, really?
I have to say I really like the styling of this SUV, it looks sharp. I like this better than the CRV.
This vehicle is the best looking for sure , love the blacked out features. Besides Honda’s are bulletproof .
Would be great to see Passport, Highlander or Pathfinder in Japan.
Nice quick explanation of difference on the trim levels. Thanks.
Yes, it has a volume knob. This is proof that Honda is listening. Now, if only they would bring back the tuning knob.
I'd like to hear thoughts about the speedometer. The needle is gone in favour of a number. From a human factors perspective, which is better? I can't see the Germans dropping the needle.
Numbers are better IMHO. German vehicles with HUD show the number on the windshield.
I have both on my 2012 Cruze and I find myself using the digital more than the needle.
I'm looking at the Acura RDX. I'll take a look at this one too.
Probably a worthwhile comparison but Honda will insure that you pay considerably more for a comparably equipped RDX with less space.
My wife and I just drove an RDX. We were far from impressed with it.
I purchased the 2021 Passport over the RDX and I’m happy I did it. Save the cash with going with the Honda but you still get the reliability.
Wow 50K
They just can't make the rears of these vehicles butt ugly.
Hopefully the redesign will have a boxier more classic SUV styling versus just a shortened Pilot like we see here. I don't mind the new Passport and I kinda want one, a Sport AWD is all I need.
So what about the 9 speed transmission I heard a lot of issues related to it
Hmm, in Quebec with Ontario plate and no front plate, isn't that the dream lol
I really like this "tweener" or "Goldilocks" size crossover category. If the compact class averages around 182" in length and most "midsize" class vehicles average around 197", the 190" Passport is a great size. I'd add several contenders other than the ones mentioned. (e.g. Edge, Murano, and Grand Cherokee). The KIA Sorento at 189" is in the same class while offering an occasional use third row. And the Hyundai Santa Fe at 188" falls in the same group though it offers only a turbo 4 engine rather than the V6 that's standard or optional in most others. Finally, the Subaru Outback is an obvious contender in the same category.
I do understand the desire to avoid "taking other kids to soccer practice" by opting out of a third row of seats but I gotta say that as the father of a 14 y/o daughter it sometimes it comes with the territory. In addition, when the need arises to transport six or seven passengers for non-soccer related activities it's very convenient to avoid taking two vehicles. Of the crossovers in this category only the Sorento offers that capability. (BTW, when we purchased our first three row crossover in 2012 my wife swore me to secrecy about the existence of the third row so she wouldn't be pegged as a "soccer mom." She has become less sensitive about the label in recent years.)
Another small point. The underfloor storage in the cargo area is admittedly useful and several of the two row vehicles in this category offer versions of it. The space is available because there's no need to stow a third row of seats. But reviewers fail to point out that access to that space requires that the cargo floor above is empty. So for concealed storage of items like a laptop or other relatively flat items or stowing items that are seldom used, it's useful. But not as useful as cargo space that can be accessed on, rather than under, the cargo floor. And a cargo cover accomplishes the same concealment function.
Neither the Passport nor the 2019 Santa Fe was available when we shopped for a "tweener" size crossover last year. We didn't take a serious look at the Murano or the Outback, primarily because of the CVT as the only transmission option. And our local Jeep dealers all left me with a feeling I had to clean the oil off my clothes after dealing with a salesperson. We did look seriously at the Ford Edge Sport (the predecessor of the Edge ST) but the family crossover is my wife's daily driver and she didn't like it as much as I did. I loved the Edge's 2.7L twin scroll turbo but I have a GTI for driving thrills. My wife was less impressed. That left the Sorento for us.
Had the Passport been available when we were shopping I'm sure we would have considered it. Honda does a great job in designing vehicles with thoughtful and quality features. I'd probably be skeptical about the nine speed transmission but most reviewers agree that the kinks have been worked out. And I'm no fan of the replacement of a traditional shifter design with buttons on the center console but that's something one gets used to, I suppose. I do think that Honda missed an opportunity to give the Passport a more distinctive interior by largely duplicating the Pilot's. Perhaps they'll remedy that in the next model year.
I'd probably still go with the 2019 Sorento based on the versatility provided by the occasional use third row of seats and what I strongly suspect is a real world price point several thousand dollars less than a comparable Passport. But the Passport would be a close second place for our family.
Excellent. I was waiting to hear your take on this one.
Seems like this would be a direct competitor to Chevy’s new Blazer. Both Passport & Blazer are new for 2019!
Love your reviews! You do a great job!
Jason Freel Blazer will have a hitch I’m sure
Honda might be more reliable but for usability of some systems I hear Chevy still has the better infotainment system.
William Taylor hilarious 😂
That was a banging beat in the beginning, Zack. I loved it.
Kicking it old skool yep kicking it big time kicking it
I’d like to see a comparison between this and the new Hyundai Santa Fe.
And new Blazer.
Passport is significantly more powerful, (5.8s vs 7.8s in 0-60mph).
@@gs98999 the Passport can do 5.8 sec 0-60??
They're nearly the same size. The Passport is only two inches longer. But the Santa Fe is essentially a 2017 KIA Sorento two-row crossover with the same turbo4 engine, the same 8 speed transmission as the 2019 Sorento and some appealing bells and whistles. The Passport offers considerably more cargo space (at least as Honda measures it) and a V6 naturally aspirated engine. In terms of performance, at least 0-60, they're likely to be very close. At the top trim levels the Honda is substantially more expensive, especially in "real world" pricing that comes with a serious negotiation with a dealer.
They're both appealing vehicles in the same size category but I suspect that relatively few consumers will be cross shopping them.
This is the first time I've heard someone actually refer to the capability of the passport as "Light Offroading" and I'm happy someone finally said it.
20 inch std wheels is nuts, cant imagine the replacwment cost
20's are a common wheel size now...not expensive at all
@@tonytanti8138 Just bought a set of Bridgestone Blizac WS80 winter tires for my wife's Civic at $130 per tire. Same exact tire for the Passport is $228. I'd say that $400 a set is a pretty big difference.
What about Toyota forerunner
You keep saying the Touring is the top model...
The "Elite" is the top trim.
Touring in Canada, where this video was made.
I hope it doesn't have the same infotainment system as my 2019 Pilot. The U.S. law firm of Hagens Berman Sobol Shapiro are preparing a Class action lawsuit against Honda(link below) for their 2018 Honda Odysseys and 2019 Honda Pilots like mine due a defective and dangerous infotainment system. Honda withheld this information. Had it made it public I never would have bought my Lemon Pilot that has given me so much stress since I purchased it. In my humble opinion, Honda dealerships should not ethically be selling defective vehicles that may endanger people's lives (instrument cluster goes dead) and cause so many people so many headaches. It goes against any reasoning. People buy a brand new vehicle to be worry free. It is deceitful to sell a vehicle Honda knows to have a serious problem. It is not normal to have to strip the interior of a brand new vehicle from dash to tailgate including seats and ceiling to rewire it and have the owner suffer the consequences of loose connectors and misinstalled panels. The law firm just reposted one of my videos on TH-cam. Here is the link:
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in canada the "touring" is the elite in USA.
mpg? retractable mirror? 360 camera?
Better discount the hell out of these.
Kevin L. Msrp is down by 4k after 4 months. Poor sales?
@@indycric auto sales are bad across the board right now. It's a buyer's market.
maybe toyota will bring back the venza to compete with this
venza is competing with the outback.
Not sure if i can continue with honda, we've had 3 crv ,, 2006, 2008, 2014, they all have had the same jerkinginess at 2 and 3rd speeds, which required a 3x transmission fluid drain and refill, even when following the mi.
I'm glad they got rid of the chrome. I like the standard black. The wheels are too shinny though for me.
is great...people dont need all that space..thanks.
Can you get apple carplay along with the navigation that comes with the Honda passport. So you would have backup navigation in case you were somewhere with no cell service ?
yes
I completely agreed with your preference of the chrome. I am sure most people do not want the ugly black look. Also why did they enlarge the wheel: The 18" on my RDX was plenty. You did not mention the most important: AWD. Is it the same as SH-AWD? I also liked that you mentioned the different trim prices. Most reviewers only tested the most expensive trim which was not chosen by most buyers.
It is the same mechanical AWD system but tuned differently.
For that price I would buy a Lincoln navigator.
Correction Ridgeline wheelbase is not the same as Pilot and Passport. It’s over 14” longer at 125.2” vs 111” of the Pilot and Passport.
is it noisy?
I like the looks. The V6 is well tested and reliable. Not a CVT. No silly panoramic moonroof. Quite a nice package altogether.
I like that Honda is adding the Passport....it’s needed even if a 5 passenger Pilot in concept. They need to work harder on exterior style as competition is fierce and style too generic.....and pricing seems out of whack even if it’s a high quality suv...price matters.
Zack although size wise the Passport competes with the Grad Cherokee price wise it is in competition with the Cherokee. Three questions:
1. how do you compare Jeep and Honda improvements made to the 9th speed (did Jeep do as well as Honda)?
2. which one do you find more fun to drive (Jeep Trailhawk V6 or Passport)?
3. which one is more comfortable on pothole ridden streets?
Thanks!
I think both have improved the 9-speed. You cannot compare a compact SUV with a mid-size, they feel very different. The Cherokee Trailhawk was surprisingly comfy to drive, not rough at all. The Passport does feel the bumps.
Ok thank you for the answer!
what year?
dear now everything is floated..everywhere you go.
Hey Zak....decide this for me, my husband and I keep squabbling over what we need now instead of what we may need later. Im due for a new car, Ive been driving my 2006 Acura TL for 14yrs and at 310k, I can tell the little repairs here and there means I need a new car to drive for another 15yrs because the bills keep adding up. We have a 3yr old son and we talk about having another child...when? I dont know. I want to get the Pilot, it will accommodate our small family now but also I drive my parents and my nephew around quite a bit. My husband wants to plan for now and go with the Passport. Its not like we get a new car every 2yrs, whatever car we decide to get, it will be for another 10+yrs. Help me?!!!
If you need to take more than 5 people on a regular basis than a pilot would be a better choice. If you are planning on being a family of four and don't need the third row then the Passport be great
Why would you want chrome? Chrome is the most horrible thing to exist on a vehicle only compared with piano black on the steering wheel (which this vehicle has).
Wish they left that super annoying start/stop feature
Its a stupid feature to save (miniscule) fuel consumption, in expense for additional wear and tear on the starter.
And with vehicles becoming more and more non-DIY'er friendly, that's an additional cost for a long term maintenance of the vehicle.
I have a 2018 odyssey, and I’m so glad my engine idle stop feature broke. When I go to local Honda do service, I specifically tell them DO NOT fix the engine idle stop function! It’s so damn annoying to have it on.
@@tomkillsall Haha, not very reassuring that you own a 2018 and it's breaking already...
Is there a button to disable ?
@@tonychau1983 Yes, but you have to hit it every time you start the vehicle.
How is the handling?
I drove Grand Cherokee on the BC roads (around Whistler) a year ago, and i was so disappointed...it’s handling was awful.
I like how this car looks :D
This is more expensive than the Toyota Highlander, in Canada.
Guess I'm buying the brilliant Toyota Highlander...
@Fred Johnson
It's almost the same specs, width, height and length as the Highlander. So your point is what?
“Jeep vibe?” What’s that? Breaks all the time? 😂
Almost got the Passport until I came across the Kia Telluride.
I know the Telluride is a 3 seater, but I plan on keeping that 3rd seat down all the time. It's MUCH nicer, and more bang for your buck.
No mention of the V6 in your review? I think that’ll be a major reason why people will choose this over the many turbo 4’s out there. I’d also be interested in hearing how the “Snow” setting works. How does it change the driving dynamics? Is it a setting that is to be used all winter or just if you are driving in loose snow (during a storm). Thanks for providing a Canadian perspective on your reviews.
No chrome buddy or are you stuck in the 90's
I want the chrome! I don't know why Honda tried to create an aura of this being an off-roader, 4-Runner competitor. It isn't. Get rid of the black plastic and put a nice chrome grill on.
Good review on the Passport. One quirk was when he said "Nissan" and same thing with "Mazda" before LOL. Not to be rude, but is that a Canada thing? :O #Sorrynotsorry
But this stupid trend where auto manufacturers think that over-use of BLACK is anything but U G L Y is totally stupid! Why the hell don’t they ask us what we actually want??
Why honda just make an offroad pilot? Spend a lot of money to develop the passport
Three domestics(Grand Cherokee, Edge, Blazer) and a CVT bubble from Japanese Chrysler, this thing will sell like hot cakes. Never understood why Toyota discontinued the Venza when SUV’s sales were picking up across all lines.
True but it desperately needed a face lift. Very dated yet good vehicle.
Because the Venza was so damn ugly
@@tracerit And the RAV4 and Highlander are good-looking or something?!
The Venza and the Honda Crosstour occupied a product space all their own. And unfortunately for Toyota and Honda almost no one liked either one. They each lacked essential design features of a crossover, the higher "command" driver's seating position and the perceived image of greater "safety". Though often not recognized it was those features that made crossovers especially appealing to women and among the most important reasons that CUV sales have come to dominate the entire marketplace. In short, it's females that have driven the market to SUV's and away from minivans and station wagons. Toyota and Honda simply misread their market research.
I would say they new Santa fe would fall in this category. Feels like he forgot about it but I think Zack would agree.
I was surprised at the lack of mentioning of Blazer and New Santa Fe. The 2 row, 5 passenger segment is definitely growing, and it's one that I prefer.
And I don't mind not having chrome. I prefer having body color but that doesn't seem to be a thing anymore.
Incomplete review. There is NO mention about: (1) noise and/or vibration in the cabin (2) comfort offered by the Driver's seat (3) braking.
Not a bad vehicle but too bad it has 20" wheels (really, for any kind of "off-roading"?) and that 9 speed ZF transmission. I'll take a pass.
The massive black plastic cladding looks horrendous, especially with the murdered out black wheels. I'd buy a Grand Cherokee.
I agree about FCA products pure junk. Read Consumer reports.
I like Honda reliability. I currently own a Honda CR-Z, a lawn mower and a generator ! I drive in sand (South) and snow (north) and I like to drive. If the value for this vehicle stays as strong as my quirky Lil CR-Z I think I may have a garage for it.
Canadian models always get a few goodies that the U.S. doesn't have.... I love Honda but you suck sometimes.... Give us all the goodies like the Canadian and the Chinese Hondas...
Rugged car with button gear shift? No way I'm considering this! Rugged means at least automatic with a lever!
When u put 19 century halogen lights on 50K -2019 SUV.Its insult to consumer.
Captain Carter halogens can penetrate fog better, much cheaper to replace, there’s pros and cons
The 2019 Honda Ridgeline uses a Honda 6 speed automatic not the ZF 9 speed automatic.
20" wheels on an off-road friendly SUV? Why oh why, Honda?
Yeah, they need a TRUE off-road version, with 18" wheels. This should NOT have anything bigger than 19" if they want to be able to say it's off-road capable...with 20 or bigger, it most certainly is NOT capable of off-road, not beyond gravel roads and sandy, flat soil.
I would go higher up in trims if they made leather and sun roofs optional. I don't want either so I have to get the Sport trim.
I do NOT like the sun roof either. It is an overrated accessory. However, with any Honda you will get "stuck" with a sunroof, unless you buy the base trim.
sooooo expensive
Really liked it ... then test drove it. The gear shifter buttons are annoying (I can picture my dog stepping on it as he hops from the back to the front seat - yes he does that to sit on my wife's lap) and the ride was not like other Honda's. I didn't like it. I own the Ridgeline and it has a great ride. This one however was a bit chopping feeling. Hard to explain but I was surprised (not in a good way). The seats were also not as comfortable as the Ridgeline. Not impressed. There is a lot of room but just too many shortcomings for me and it's relatively expensive for its class.
I ended up buying a Grand Cherokee. Great incentives and loaded up for under $40k (with incentives the Limited was $36k - leather, heated seats and steering wheel, big nav screen, Apple and Android car play, off-road features for those snowy winter days, great stereo, etc.) and my wife likes driving it. You need to check out the Grand Cherokee if you are serious about buying the Passport.
+Trey Drier Weird I had the complete opposite experience. I was legit shocked at how well the Passport rides and how comfortable it is. And I test drove the Tiguan literally right after and it wasn't even close. I havent driven a GC since 2017 but back then for the price the interior was ancient and ride quality was ok but jeep isn't anywhere near honda in terms of reliability if you're buying.
I just checked Honda's website, the Passport actually starts $900 CAD more expensive than the Pilot, with less interior space.
Yes but the passport does not come at a base trim, it starts at a higher trim then pilot and comes with more equipment
I see. The 'practical' Canadian might just go for the CR-V if they didn't need a 3rd row and save themselves $10k+
@@davidjym people who are going to buy the Passport, probably want a more "manly" SUV, with V6 and a traditional auto.
True. My original point I wanted to say was 6 inches in length doesn't really differentiate the Passport and Pilot. The CR-V will probably get similar 'manly' exterior design when it's time for the Mid-Cycle Refresh to better compete with the RAV4's new rugged exterior.
DAVID Y CRV is cramped for those who are 6’2 and taller like me
Whwres the mom review of this passport. That what we husbands want to hear from.
This looks horrible to me. Ugliest honda in my opinion
I always like when they talk about departure angles and off road chops. like anyone is taking this off road. if you want to go off road, you'll drive a jeep or a 4runner. these are for people who want to portray the image of a rugged outdoorsman.
I personally like this Passport better than the Pilot.
The old Honda Passport was actually manufactured by Isuzu. Is this still the case?
No
$42k for a $30k suv. Gouge much?
i think those are canadian market prices
@@JogBird I'm in Canada my friend.
Shop for vehicles much?
Much like the Ridgeline. Colorado, ranger both are a more of a truck yet Honda is selling the Ridgeline starting at 40 while the ranger is 32ish. I don't get it.
@@PardyN2 It's simple. You're paying for more quality.
The Rear Tail light design is just lazy and awful
Or it’s tasteful and more subdued. The adventure-ready image Honda is trying to sell here doesn’t fit with overly styled elements.
It's like the original Ford Edge. Lame.
Honda is not nor ever has been a design company. They specialize in vanilla.
foggyblues13 they look better than Toyota’s...
Loads of piano black stuff all over the place... too bad.
Wow....50K...I'm glad I'm not into the SUV bandwagon...I prefer my 32K VW Sportwagon All wheel drive!
Can't say I blame you but there aren't many folks out there who agree with us.
I think this hits the mark perfectly for most families but I agree with you, all of that black is too much. Especially those black wheels... yuck. I'd love to see a gun metal on that trim and wheels with a similar interior trim.
stop with the cliche's "soccer mom and kids"
You know, this looks like a minivan. I don't like minivans.
This thing is ugly. 😔
3rd row seating is for other wives' kids
Looks like a van
STDW
This guy doesn't know what he is talking about when it comes to the trim levels. Passport has 4 trim levels not 3. And not all the accessories he talks about go with the Touring.
Canadian trims
ugly honda
This thing is a failure. Looks just like every other honda suv. The interior is boring too!! I would of traded my Element for it but i will have to wait. KIA may end up taking my money. The Telluride is awesome!
I would buy Telluride too. Kia is making some good looking cars/SUVs!
I drove telluride,hot garbage
That instrument cluster is almost cartoonish, especially when you look at the tachometer. Very ugly.
Not a fan of the tail lights. So bland and looks like explorer
@@nickr3441 Or the original Ford Edge.
I may be alone in thinking this, but I think this vehicle is a mistake for Honda. Mostly because of price and brand image. Price conscious Honda buyers tend to be too conservative and safe. So the bigger Pilot is still going to grow. But Honda will not swing many new buyers, over from a Grand Cherokee or the Toyota’s. They may pick up a few Ex-Rogue buyers. If I were Honda ... I would re-invent their Accord wagon, but this time make it AWD. (Toyota, same as they did to their Camry years ago). That market is mostly open and unexploited. Thanks for the video.
An Outbacked-Accord. I would go for that over one of these pieces of crap.
You may not be alone but if you think Honda can capture many sales with an Accord wagon in North America, you can organize a convention of your fellow believers in a very large phone booth. If you do, invite me. I love wagons, too, but I don't kid myself that they can stop the crossover juggernaut.
Sadly... they got rid of all the phone booths (boxes), around the same time as they got rid of those Honda/Toyota wagons. So... I may be alone - after all.
Stephen Hendricks, where's he going to find a phone booth??
@@hard2getitrightagain314 Hey! Leave my cliches alone...And Get Off My Lawn! :)
It looks like a lifted up minivan and not a rugged vehicle. For the same price you can buy a Toyota 4Runner, which is everything opposite this so called SUV is.
Fred Johnson Honda has no heritage with off roading likeToyota. They can stick to their unreliable turbo engines and lawnmowers lol. The 4Runner is part of Toyota’s DNA in off-roading.
How the F#@K does low profile all-season tires on 20 inch wheels make that Passport anywhere remotely rugged....?? Oh wait, it has a volume knob, guaranteed ruggedness😏
The blandest vehicle on Sale today
Like always, Honda ripping people off. Making an off road rated vehicle without a built in towing system, and they want $2600 dollars for it as an extra. The Toyota Tacoma is cheaper, can tow more and is better off road, comes with all towing equipment installed. Whose gonna buy the Passport?
We looked at crew cab Tacoma, chose Passport
Get a VW Atlas or Tiguan. Bottom line
The Atlas is in the much larger midsize category and the Tiguan is an outlier in the compact category. Not much cross shopping with either one.
@@stephenhendricks103 I appreciate what Volkswagen has done with the Tiguan and Atlas
@@kennybrooks8374 As an avid GTI owner my wife and I looked seriously at both the Atlas and the (North Americanized) Tiguan last year. (It's called the Tiguan "AllSpace" in other markets.) After being burned repeatedly by trying to sell European versions of their vehicles to Americans, VW has clearly decided that bigger is better and humungous is better than big. :)
Perhaps because I'm accustomed to the performance of my GTI I found the Tiguan to be rather gutless unless it was set to "sport" mode. That might have been an unfair judgment but that's how it felt. Of course, VW offers a third seat option for a measly $500 USD in the Tiguan but I think that's meant to be a joke on Americans.
As for the Atlas, my wife is the daily driver of the family SUV and she (and I) thought it was simply too damn big for our needs or wants. Further, the 2018 model reserved several important features (e.g. navigation) for the top trim, very expensive version of the Atlas and that version was nowhere to be found when we were shopping. I believe they may have corrected that for 2019.
All in all, I think the Atlas is an excellent choice for a large family with multiple adults and teenagers, especially if the kids play football or basketball. It has the most accommodating third row of any "midsize" crossover. Personally, though, I'd rather have the new version of the Touareg but VW has decided it (rightly) that Americans won't pay for it. It will be interesting to see if we're prepared to pay for the forthcoming Arteon.
@@Brian-jv8iy Can't speak specifically of Canadians but the CC was a long term sales disaster for VW in the US. They sold fewer than 25,000 CC's in the last five years. And in 2018 VW sold 455 CC's in the US.I really liked the CC but I was one of very few Americans who did. As for Canadians, their taste in European brands is relatively stronger than the US but with a population a tenth the size of the US, sales in Canada, alone, aren't sufficient to support any brand. The bottom line is that Americans, unlike Europeans, have never seen VW as a premium brand.
As for the Arteon, I wish VW luck but in an atmosphere where sedans of all kinds are cratering, I'm not optimistic.
carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-data/volkswagen/volkswagen-cc/
Why are Japanese cars always hideous?
Drove it, rode like crap
Own it, drove it, love it
why you keep talking in inches.. dont be lazy...just multiply by 2.54 .. 3.5 L.. is that car from 1995?
It's for us arithmetic and metric challenged Americans. :)