Elden Ring History [And How It Broke Me]

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  • @pawnshop_ghost
    @pawnshop_ghost 2 ปีที่แล้ว +482

    Something that I noticed specifically about Iji as a war counselor, as much as I love him, is that he's always wrong about stuff and then he says "I should have seen it coming" which I think it really funny because he's wearing the big mirror hat/mask, so he probably can't see much of anything

    • @acksOldPeople
      @acksOldPeople 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      Blaidd: Looks like it's gonna rain
      Iji: Oh goodness, I should have seen this coming. Why am I such a uselss fu--
      Blaidd: Iji please, it's just rain

    • @puupipo
      @puupipo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      ​@@acksOldPeople I feel like someone could make a series of comic strips based on this dynamic and it would be so wholesome and fun to read.

    • @drteeth362
      @drteeth362 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      From software does have a habit of covering the faces/eyes of giants. The blacksmith in dark souls 1 and the giants of Sens Fortress all have metal plates covering their faces. Not to mention Hawkeye Gough is blind and also has a face covering helmet. And now Iji has a helmet covered in mirrors

    • @SIGNOR-G
      @SIGNOR-G 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@drteeth362 maybe so they dont have to animate the faces. After all stiff heads are more noticeable if they are giant.

    • @drteeth362
      @drteeth362 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@SIGNOR-G I mean, before Elden Ring, FromSoft never animated faces and if they did it was rare.

  • @Taste01RL
    @Taste01RL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    Tower of Babylon as a “cautionary tale about God but also a tale about city planning” had me screaming.
    Fantastic and super interesting video as always!

  • @Ziostorm
    @Ziostorm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    One thing I haven’t been able to research enough that ties in with mesoamerican/Paiute history are the Fire Giants being inspired by the Si Te Cah, a race of supposed red hair giants, but I haven’t looked into it enough

    • @quelaag
      @quelaag  2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      It’s sooo many overlapping cultures it wouldn’t surprise me

    • @ShadeStormXD
      @ShadeStormXD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i mean, that could just be drawn back from norse, thor is red hair and hammered like radagon and the norse are supposedly descended from giants so who knows, but theres a lot of cultural variety and overlap represented in elden ring so could be

    • @NA-yb9sj
      @NA-yb9sj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      red hair giant? irish? scottish?

    • @pandora3224
      @pandora3224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wondered if they were inspired by Pacific Island tales about Fire and Lava Giants with smoldering flames ever ablaze atop their heads. Those are allegedly part of what inspired the two giant figures in the Moana movie.

    • @porkt3887
      @porkt3887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      there's also Balor, the irish giant with a large eye that wreaks destruction when opened and is said to embody the scorching sun. He's said to be a fomorian, a supernatural race. he's killed by his grandson Lugh of the Tuatha Dé Danann in the battle of Mag Tuired, reminds me a lot of radagon and the war on the giants. also notable is lugh is associated with mercury

  • @teslobo
    @teslobo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    The point about the Greeks believing the Mycenaean architecture being built by giants/Cyclopes is interesting, because much of Uhl's architecture looks like it has been built by giants. The doorways are always unnecessarily large and the bricks often way too large to be shifted by normal beings.

  • @puzzleheaded6195
    @puzzleheaded6195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    I think you’re doing the right thing taking a break.
    This game has some deep ass layers and it can really wrack your brain around if you dig deep which you do better than most Imo. We’ll be here when you get back Quelly. All love ❤️

  • @nottwo
    @nottwo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Glad you’re giving credit to the Hebrew influence with the fingers. I happened to be watching a lot of lecture videos about Kabbalah right before Elden Ring came out and it seems to me like the game borrows a lot from the teachings of Kaballah. Fingers, trees, cups/jars/vessels for God’s will, and even the shattering are all concepts in Kaballistic interpretations of the Hebrew Bible.

    • @nottwo
      @nottwo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Whoops like you covered some of that too.

    • @jackharrow7147
      @jackharrow7147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Shabriri

    • @SIGNOR-G
      @SIGNOR-G 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ((()))

    • @briggy4359
      @briggy4359 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Elden Ring is all alchemical, which is a gnostic ritual. Gnosticism is a religion that wears the skin of other religions and changes its name, and kaballah is the Jewish version of Gnosticism.
      It is impressive how From appears to have plumbed the depths of gnostic history so thoroughly.

    • @nottwo
      @nottwo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@briggy4359 they even have the three Gnostic baptisms: water (right after church of anticipation), Fire (giant’s forge), and Holy Spirit (unsealing destined death). I think the Godskins are meant to be the actual gnostics in this game. Some say frenzy is, but I think that’s closer to the madness induced by solipsism.

  • @stampede274
    @stampede274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    It seems like everyone eventually reaches the point with Elden Ring where they realize the lore is just too big.

  • @Ramozruler2011
    @Ramozruler2011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This game has made me realize how dumb I am. I have so much to read and learn about. From the history to the mythology, religion, alchemy, natural cycle of plants and nature different eras of not just man but the planet and lord only knows what else at this point. This game is truly in a league of it's own!
    If you haven't already, go check out "The tarnished Archeologist", he's new and only has a handful of videos but every one of them blew my mind.
    Great job btw you are really out here doing some profound work for this game!

  • @soquality9405
    @soquality9405 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Another thing about the lions is that they used to be fairly common throughout Europe. So kind of adds to the themes that Godfrey's age is over since all the lions are gone

    • @quelaag
      @quelaag  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That imagery came from their relationship with Mesopotamia and Africa! especially since lions are not native to parts of Europe :)

    • @visperad541
      @visperad541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@quelaag are they not native? I could have sword I heard somewhere that they were also native to Europe but Europeans hunted them to extinction. I very well coul be wrong though

    • @DennisOfDragons
      @DennisOfDragons 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      There were definitely lions in Europe; in historical times even! But of course, their populations went extinct as civilization advanced

    • @MadAtreides1
      @MadAtreides1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@quelaagthere were lions in the Balkan. There are laws dated to the late Roman Empire to protect them from being excessively hunted. According to Wikipedia there were lions in Germany until circa 60k years ago.

    • @tonib.2371
      @tonib.2371 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​@@MadAtreides1
      Hey German here ✋
      I'm pretty sure that we had animals called "mountain lions" they didn't look exactly like your typical lion but we're very common in medival Times.
      And back during the Ice Age we had "cave lions"

  • @OrdonWolf
    @OrdonWolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I don't know if this is at all relevant to Elden Ring because I'm a big dummy when it comes to lore and like having it explained to me, but yesterday I was working on my conlang, got interested in Sumerian and ended up reading a bunch about Mesopotamian myths.
    One thing that stood out to me was the genealogy of Enki (his name means Lord of Earth but he is god of water). His dad was An (sky daddy) who used to be one with Ki (earth mommy) until Enlil (Lord of Breath) was born of them, splitting Earth and Sky in two with Wind in the middle.
    An and Ki's parents were the siblings Anshar and Kishar (sky and earth, but bigger), who begot them when they met at the horison, and THEY had another pair of sibling-parents called Lahmu and Lahamu, but what's important here is who Lahmu and Lahamu's parents were: Tiamat and Abzu.
    According to the creation myth, before the creation of heaven and earth there was just water. Two oceans: one above ground and the other underground.
    Tiamat is the chaotic dagon-like godess of the salted overground ocean, while Abzu is the god of freshwater aquifers and a purifying force.
    In the Enuma Elish, Abzu is killed by his descendants, so Tiamat swore revenge but is defeated herself, but not before creating the dragons and all other monsters.
    Idk these Sumerian inspired underground cultures kind of reminded me of that and maybe the Lake of Rot tells the story of a once pure underground aquifer that turned putrid and stagnant in the absence of its water god?

  • @Supercohboy
    @Supercohboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Separate comment just to say wow, the level of detail and scrutiny that the FromSoft team must've gone through to accomplish this crazy lore combobulation is incredible! They managed to represent so much, and to tie their worldbuilding in to the architecture in a manner that lets us compare it to our own IRL, and develop a timeline through these allegories! I love it.
    The interaction and theorizing has been awesome, thank you for being such an awesome contributor/lore theory person ^_^ Enjoy your break from all of the deep analysis, I had to walk away from Elden Ring for like 2 months before I was ready to dive in to the lore again.

  • @NoSuchMachine
    @NoSuchMachine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    On the topic of Miquella being mercury, and the tree of life, I've actually been drawing similarities between the Shard Bearers and the Sefirot on the Tree of Life. So far, the only ones that really fit are Miquella and Malenia, but it's still really fun to speculate.
    Here are my notes so far:
    Miquella as Hod
    - Means Majesty, Splendor, or Glory
    - Associated Angel: St Michael (Feminine: Michaela)
    - Alchemical Symbol: Mercury and purification
    - Represents Submissive Diplomacy
    - Guardian of Dreams/Formation/Unconscious
    - Qliphoth is represented by St Michael's Abduction by Demons
    - Occult association with Hermes/Hermaphrodite and Wisdom (Monad, Mind of All)
    Malenia as Netzach
    - Means Eternal, Perpetuity, Victory
    - Associated Angel: Anael (Masculine: Oniel)
    - Alchemical Symbol: Sulfur and fermentation
    - Represents Endurance and Willpower
    - Guardian of the weak and righteous (St Michael in particular)
    - Qliphoth represented by demonic ravens spewed out of a volcano
    - Occult association with Venus and Fertility (Babylon, Mother of All)
    Maliketh as Malkuth
    - Means Kingdom/Foundation
    - Associated Angel: Sandalphon
    - Alchemical Symbol: Earth/ Prima Materia
    - Represents Earth, the beginning and the end, as well as the bridge between life and death
    - Guardian of Dwellings, Life, and Death
    - Qliphoth is represented by the bridge to the Cosmic Tree of Death
    - Occult association with Earth, Death, and the Cosmic Tree of Death
    Keep in mind these are similarities and they do not make up a definitive list of all the relevant traits of the Sefirot
    For those who aren't familiar, the Qliphoth represent the inverted or hollow forms of the Sefirot, and are sometimes called the Husks. They usually represent the same aspect as their matching sefirot, except they are lacking in balance and are taken to their most corrupt extreme.

    • @quelaag
      @quelaag  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ohhh I love this1!!!

  • @khangenghis
    @khangenghis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    FromSoft: so here's lore references of the world starting from prehistoric to modern times. welcome to hard mode.

  • @olecthulhu5339
    @olecthulhu5339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Much respect. The amount of research that went into this is awesome. I’m fairly obsessed with geological timeline so I was excited af to see you all the way back in the Ordovician. Some areas and enemies like the great dragonflies always make me think of the Carboniferous. Anyway, sweet video. I loved it.

  • @NathanFlanArt
    @NathanFlanArt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Interesting note on the Nox and their Gothic style.
    I believe Gothic architecture is named after the Goths, not necessarily built by them. The term was used in the 17th century to insult this new style of architecture, comparing it to the "barbaric Goths who sacked Rome".
    This might mean that the Nox were buried a lot more recently than we may think and may give us an idea of how people felt about them before they were buried too!

    • @quelaag
      @quelaag  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So the Goths were given the Western Roman territory and it was during their time that those structures were built. Its not to say while they were a normadic tribe they were building crazy cathedrals in the underground, but rather a visual hint that hey - these people - may be involved in taking over Leyendell (Which they are! Given that "Queen Marika" is known as Queen Marika the Eternal, aka, from the Eternal Cities!)

    • @InnsannaStories
      @InnsannaStories 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@quelaag Gothic Architecture postdates the Goth culture/civilization by about 500 years; gothic architecture is 12th century at its earliest (and extends into the 17th) and the last of the Goth kingdoms fell to the Umayyad Caliphate in the 8th century. By that point there was already France proper and the remains of Gothic culture existed almost entirely in Crimea. Gothic culture survived in the west longest in Iberia, but gave way to romance languages and postlatin culture by that point, a process that had started as early as the 6th century with the renunciation of Arian Christianity by the Gothic kingdoms in favor of Catholicism.
      Gothic architecture, in other words, has absolutely nothing to do with the Goths; the name comes from Renaissance architects of the proto-neoclassical movement who sought to emulate Roman architecture, and this referred to this post-Roman architecture as "Gothic". Hope this helps.

  • @BiZkWiK87
    @BiZkWiK87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was today years old when I learned you existed. You are an absolute dreamboat, you crazy history lady. Subscribed.

  • @magnopere
    @magnopere 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i just want to say I really love your insight and style in these lore videos. If you can find a way to do it without breaking your brain, please keep doing them! Elden Ring is a literary and artistic goldmine.

  • @swamashijudbedolofritt4448
    @swamashijudbedolofritt4448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another high lvl content brought to you by lore champion. Keep em coming Quelaag!

  • @BrokenStylo
    @BrokenStylo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Loving these videos coming from one of my favorite OG Souls content creators! I wish ENB and Spy would return to TH-cam. Keep up the great work!

  • @sandalpus
    @sandalpus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The branch sword for sure appears in Japan, but it actually originated in Korea. This still doesn’t explain why they used a Scandinavian motif on the talisman in ER. However, it does shed some light on Sekiro’s ending where Kuro wishes to return the dragon’s heritage to the West. The divine dragon arrived from the west and wields a branched sword, so it’s likely that he wants to return it to Korea. I may be remembering wrong, but I believe the type of dragon used for its model is also stylistically a Korean dragon.

  • @WithinandThroughout
    @WithinandThroughout 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    35:24 the flower of life also directly applies geometrically to the pentatonic scale.

  • @underhilljulian2782
    @underhilljulian2782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Esoteric philosophical debates with Xing is the absolute best thing to listen to while relaxing before bed. ASMR.

  • @tarnishedarchaeologist
    @tarnishedarchaeologist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Buttresses! Yes, thank you! Ever since Anor Londo and its Notre Dame buttresses, can't stop pointing them out, like a dog with squirrels.
    And yes, Bronze Age Collapse and the scriptless Greek Dark Ages... couple thousand years later, Greek Fire (have a deep dive on that in the works) -Sigh- Yea, it is a lot, it's the whole human corpus, but all of it sooo good. Stay calm (or not) and carry on! Please, it's great!
    P.S. We called Elden John Mr. Whiskers :)

  • @sfbastion
    @sfbastion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the first video of yours I've seen and holy wow, I'm hooked. You obviously did crazy amounts of research for this. I loved the origin of the two fingers and three fingers! Well done! Enjoy your break!

  • @someguy4405
    @someguy4405 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “broke me” is definitely how i’d describe those notes

  • @pandora3224
    @pandora3224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Im just here to say I was here on September 19th, 2022 to say that this video is proof that our universes Elden Ring is on the list of best video games of all time.

  • @mystory2914
    @mystory2914 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the delve into the deep end, getting some air is a good idea.

  • @dynactin8908
    @dynactin8908 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just a tidbit - a pattern similar to that found on the Fingerprint Shield is on the blade of the Omen Cleaver along with text describing it as a "deteriorative malediction".

  • @minespatch
    @minespatch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    21:05 It looks like they're stabbing a bird. 😆

  • @TUC12341
    @TUC12341 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have not watched this just yet, but I just want to thank you for your sacrifice. I can’t even begin to think about how many things are in this video. I just got into elden ring lore and vaati suggested you and I can’t wait to devolve into madness
    (Edit: also its Or-doh-vish-ean)

  • @adivolah
    @adivolah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm addicted to Elden Ring and to your content.
    Keep up your amazing work!
    ✌🏻😊

  • @mikehattias5837
    @mikehattias5837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is amazing. Thank you for working so hard on this

  • @JaxKangaroo
    @JaxKangaroo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    your videos are insanely good i cant stop watching

  • @adradox
    @adradox 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having Greater Will dancing in the corner was a nice touch to this video.

  • @Crembaw
    @Crembaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You've probably already gone on a break and more power to you, but I did want to mention something that there is a connection to Mayan and Mesoamerican mythology, though perhaps not a robust one. The Hero Twins' origins could be seen as having influences in the stories of Morgott and Mohg and their Omen curse.

  • @Proctor_Conley
    @Proctor_Conley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is incredible! Thank you for all your hard work & I wish you much success in all your future endeavors!

  • @spiralistichope9216
    @spiralistichope9216 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's so cool seeing the Tower of Babel brought up here when it ended up being rather prescient in relation to Belurat and Enir-Ilim from Shadow of the Erdtree! We know where the Hornsent civilization falls on the timeline now, for sure!

  • @wraithwrecker_
    @wraithwrecker_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    HOLY SHIT, IT'S MOAR LOAR!!!! Absolutely loving your videos recently, hope you're doing well! Edit: also, I love how we keep adding more aliens. It represents the madness in all of us.
    Edit edit: I know your tone is totally in jest, but there is a lot of reason to doubt that humans lacked language during the height of the stone age. I've mentioned The Dawn of Everything before, which covers the recent research on the topic. But Elden Ring is probably operating with more typical assumptions, which is why it goes for the beast thing, like you said. But it is interesting to note that this trope doesn't seem to be supported archaeologically. (this also goes for things like politics, rights, and broader social practices; it seems humans have been pretty much doing that stuff since we first evolved)
    Edit Edit Edit: Great analysis. Your take away at the end is fucking perfect. S tier. Fuck yes. Also, wonderful that you're considering a break to avoid burnout. Put you first!

  • @Supercohboy
    @Supercohboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    21:24 Two things, originally I saw this symbol and realized that it resembles a fork when turned upside down. This may have inspired Mohg's trident weapon design.
    Additionally, I have a wild speculation. The staff thing that looks like it has a primordial fire coming out of the top, held by two bears (?)...it looks familiar. It's not even close to a 1-to-1 representation, but doesn't it look kinda like Mohg's Sacred Spear? The staff even has a slightly smaller handle-area towards the bottom of the shaft, and there's at least one thickened band that is placed in a similar location to one of the bands on the spear. And...there's fire coming out of the top of it, and these weird laurels all around the staff in an AoE...
    Maybe that "bird" at the bottom of the staff isn't an object, but is signifying an /action/ , like slamming the spear down onto the ground? What if Mohg's Nihil ritual (which uses blood*flame* power) is a mix of old and new, with the ritual being based on an even-older Uld ritual of some sort, albeit adapted to the Formless Mother's power? Is there, dare I say, any connection between the Formless Mother and the Uld, and therefore possibly a reason that Mohgwyn was led by Her to go squat on ancient burial grounds? Probably not, but I could at least see Mohg going through ancient Uld tablets and learning about their incantations, resulting in his spin on it/the Bloodflame incantations.

  • @TeoReviews
    @TeoReviews 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So.. as a Brazilian and a huge souls fan with a real strong desire to see more of that part of the world in sci-fi and fantasy... what folklore is being referenced and what is the reference itself?! Stoked about it.

    • @quelaag
      @quelaag  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The guaraná!!! My whole family is from Mexico, but then my dads family is polish / Swedish. I want to see more mesoamerican myths and stories >:0

    • @TeoReviews
      @TeoReviews 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@quelaag Thank you so much! Hopefully that change to Namor in the Black Panther sequel makes it trendy AND affordable to have more Mesoamerican stuff!

    • @TeoReviews
      @TeoReviews 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@quelaag Also Guarana is an amazing soda if you ever stumble upon it ahah

  • @NeuroPulse
    @NeuroPulse 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Extremely good research, as always. Thank you Quelaag.

  • @andrewspew
    @andrewspew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You deserve rest. Don't burn out on us. We love you. Please take a break. 🥲

  • @0The_Farlander0
    @0The_Farlander0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could listen to you talk about eldin ring lore all day, and probably will

  • @fooguwu
    @fooguwu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yoooo, new alien just dropped

  • @Xanderj89
    @Xanderj89 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    25:08 “They never met, kinda confusing” more to my theory that it’s duality, taking a similar idea from west and east and saying they are interpretations of the same underlying concept

  • @HanzGibbler
    @HanzGibbler 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How is this the first time I've see your work. Good shit and keep it up.

  • @reccaman
    @reccaman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This has been a gem. Thank you

  • @BossBoomBox
    @BossBoomBox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Curious to know your thoughts on the resemblance of the giant statues of old bearded men holding tablets to their chests found at the Uhl + Uld Ruins, and the trolls with a tablet inside their chest.

  • @SomeRandomGuy1098
    @SomeRandomGuy1098 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a good video
    Hope you have a nice break

  • @chrisheartman9263
    @chrisheartman9263 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you for showing me the world of miro theory-crafting and throwing-shit-at-the-wall-and-hope-that-it-sticks art.

  • @chrisheartman9263
    @chrisheartman9263 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm back here and I- I love the increasing amount of aliens.

  • @Agi5864
    @Agi5864 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There's two aliens now

  • @literaldevil996
    @literaldevil996 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That miro board would make a lovely irl wallpaper.

  • @AGermanSpy
    @AGermanSpy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just looking at the virtual corkboard broke me.

  • @cabellism
    @cabellism 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watching your amazing video, and I had to stop @ 2:59 and just stare and think about what im seeing. The civilization that we know, and only know, it is a baby compared to the ones that came before it. It is just truly mind-boggling. My question is, Are we as a human species in this/our current civilization, are we going to make it? or are we just going to end ourselves? (honest question considering the things that are brewing today between Russia/Ukraine/NATO, etc)How can we stand up to the giants that came before us? And has technology been our downfall?

    • @ioncewasmikey
      @ioncewasmikey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lot of evidence to suggest the planet is heading toward a catastrophic solar event... that's likely going to take care of civilization & technology all at once. Sucks but that's the way it's looking.
      Edit- that same evidence points to similar past events playing roles in the downfall of past civilizations as well.

    • @cabellism
      @cabellism 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ioncewasmikey I guess we will be getting the Frezied Flame ending i see.

    • @lovesiriusblack
      @lovesiriusblack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nothing to do but wonder about it until it happens, so does it truly mater or deserve your immediate attention? That's the only answer my brain can come up with

    • @quelaag
      @quelaag  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Life, and systems of power, engage in change and are temporary. Our sun and planet are temporary. We are temporary. But don’t give into despair about it (frenzied flameee)
      Mortality and things ending and beginning anew is divine as it’s a part of nature! It’s just hard to feel it or see it because a lot of societies idealize the idea of immorality
      There is a great Buddhist monk named Thic Nhat Han who actually had a TH-cam channel called plum village. He had a great talk about what is the hardest thing to do for a monk. He said it’s despair. He survived the Vietnam war trying to rebuild villages that kept getting destroyed. He said to not despair was important in achieving that

  • @Firestorm6651
    @Firestorm6651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh my god. I can see your eyes growing on the inside.

  • @TheDrHahn
    @TheDrHahn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ooh, starting now, and this already looks good

  • @jackharrow7147
    @jackharrow7147 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you know how people talk about having those "oh wow" moments when they come upon a new area that seems too big to have been completely hidden as well as it was?
    I just had that experience with the lore, so thanks

  • @mesastreatexit
    @mesastreatexit 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    dancing aliens, Dragon Quest music, a completely unhinged archaeology timeline mindmap, and a fun low key narration packed with cool insights??? 🎉

  • @CarbonDoggie
    @CarbonDoggie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if the ancients had little Elden John shrines in their homes

  • @weiss9748
    @weiss9748 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see we have one more dancing alien this time

  • @traviass
    @traviass 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The dragon quest music a bop

  • @nomaloney
    @nomaloney 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do in fact love it, and I do in fact love to see it

  • @LeftoversGone
    @LeftoversGone 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video my friend

  • @fakename4683
    @fakename4683 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This blew my mind. Thanks.

  • @augustuslxiii
    @augustuslxiii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm all "I've played through Elden Ring twice and I have a history degree, so I'm pretty good at Elden Ring lore."

  • @aldosalas2722
    @aldosalas2722 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that if you look at the banner at the East capital Rampart, that is the earliest tree adoration and the banner with the skinny tree was the original and now if you see the symbol in the Elden Throne you see that the Erdtree and the rings were put in in the skinny tree (East Capital Rampart tree) Is like they say that the confusion is whether there is a great tree and erdtree and where is it, well they are intertwined and that is the symbol in the Elden throne. because you can see the skinny tree that is in the banner in the symbol. IMO.

  • @KillerKittyYT
    @KillerKittyYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You got mentioned in the new smoughtown video!!!

  • @DogMechanic
    @DogMechanic ปีที่แล้ว

    The animal carvings also remind me of Gobekli Tepe.

  • @LOLFLUSHDRAW
    @LOLFLUSHDRAW 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    youre my favorite person

  • @McSwift0421
    @McSwift0421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So the Moses lookin' guy and his tablets... do the tablets have anything to do with the tablets in the chests of the giants? They look familiar but I've never been able to get a closer look. I did notice that often the tablet Moses-man is holding looks like it has roots/vines growing out of it, which of course the giants have as well.

  • @gilgamesh1148
    @gilgamesh1148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would like to add a possible connection with babylonians
    The giant walls of leyndell might be inspired from From the walls of uruk which was built by Gilgamesh a mythical demigod to protect the city.
    Also godfrey might be inspired by Gilgamesh both are demigods both are warrior Kings both have lion's as symbols and shown with a lion's in arts and statues finally both are on a quest to get their powers back
    Gilgamesh to gain immortality and be q full god and godfrey to become an elden lord which mean godhood.

    • @colorpg152
      @colorpg152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      wasnt there a primordial beast men who was he enkidu or something?

    • @gilgamesh1148
      @gilgamesh1148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@colorpg152 yep

    • @colorpg152
      @colorpg152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gilgamesh1148 i think he was lured to civilization and lost his bestial part and couldnt talk with animals or something, also something to do with inana or was it ishtar?

    • @gilgamesh1148
      @gilgamesh1148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@colorpg152 yes the God's created him to stop gilgamesh tyrant rule over his poeple they fought almost destroy half of the city after the fight they became best friends

  • @yao_oay_yao
    @yao_oay_yao 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    here's the queen marika without the lack

  • @DerpyBerb
    @DerpyBerb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    34:21 no picture of the twin-bird kite shield on the right?

  • @lunah33
    @lunah33 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your channel is amazing but please take a break if you have to

  • @danmaertens7872
    @danmaertens7872 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We are predisposed to seek out patterns to make sense of our reality. It can become a trap that fascinates us, to be fascinated by a symbol, and trapped by it. Not a bad thing, I can go in circles seeing symbols and inspiration in aspects of Elden Ring, Jungian patterns very easily, the heroes myth, etc.

  • @diandrea4
    @diandrea4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got one word for you: Moon Presence

  • @dannyd.9932
    @dannyd.9932 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh good I’m not the only one who makes these graphs

  • @Photoloss
    @Photoloss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Worth noting the ancient Minoan civilisation had both advanced bureaucracy _and_ cannibalistic tendencies not at all matching the Ancestral Followers. The myth of the Minotaur is meant to demonise them but that depiction doesn't match Elden Ring either as the Minotaur very obviously is _not_ spiritual at all but rather an unintelligent carnivorous monster.
    I wonder how much of this is actually meant to evoke a chronological order rather than simple disparity. We know of certain civilisations existing at the same time in Elden Ring but that includes Godfrey's Leyndell, the Bronze Age-inspired Fire Giants and the "Ancient" Dragons under Gransax. The Fire Giants are said to be the first to have invented smithing, fought (and won) against the _modern_ ice wyverns, lived alongside the Astrologers who would move to Raya Lucaria and yet we are supposed to believe that after their initial invention they never progressed beyond Bronze Age technology right until Marika and Godfrey wiped them out? And the dragons had an Elden Lord entombed below Farum Azula despite Godfrey supposedly being the first, plus a root-covered Elden Ring design, and Farum Azula itself mixes really ancient RL burial practices with quite elaborate architecture with columns, balustrades and domes as well as candelabras on par with a menorah.
    We also know some architectural elements have to be deliberately "retro" if you compare Elphael to Leyndell and Farum Azula so I doubt we can draw a proper timeline from similarities to RL historical architecture. And why isn't there any ancient Egypt in Limgrave or Caelid?

    • @quelaag
      @quelaag  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But they are cannibalistic! Check out the Winged Greathorn Staff. They use the life force of others or those who "don't grow horns" to feed to the soul of the ancestral spirit!
      "In the ancestral spirit-worshipping faith, these are considered envoys' wings, made to reap the lives of beings which experience no sprouting."
      Check out the move on the ancestral follower as well! It has the ability to absorb the small animal spirits in the arena to regen health! :D

    • @quelaag
      @quelaag  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not really supposed to sit literally on the isle of crete, but rather the timeline follows an amalgamation of cultures and their histories as it develops into the early sciences. Its a folktale, similar to how game of thrones is about Great Britains "War of Roses".

  • @rabsrabble5415
    @rabsrabble5415 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to make a PDF of this and send it to my game design professors.

  • @angeloromero9871
    @angeloromero9871 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the name for the style of diagram featured in the video for mapping out the lore?

  • @Asterati
    @Asterati 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was fucking right when I thought I recognized hebrew on that tablet in game I'm so happy you confirmed it

  • @agxryt
    @agxryt 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is late, but you should know - many real world myths are convergent, and many have evolved identically yet separate from each other. A lot of concepts (like a plant with eyes) arent necessarily one culture or another, but simply a common human imagination. Shamanistic or animist or similar cultures would all be very likely to come up with similar ideas. Similarly, a lot of fairy tales have been found to have similar themes - despite developing in isolation, because those themes are important to humanity. There's actually works that have attempted to index global folktales, grouped by their themes.
    On top of that, people working on the game art likely get assignments, and would use google to search for images for reference. This would lead to obscure cultural things influencing the culture in game.

  • @axelstoner
    @axelstoner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now imagine what civiliation fell during the mass impact 12000 years ago

  • @Satorotas89
    @Satorotas89 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruh this is fascinating af

  • @AB-uz8sq
    @AB-uz8sq 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the new crucible knight is devonia. following siluria and ordovis.

  • @claytronifon
    @claytronifon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Silver Alien has the moves

  • @_mossmoth_
    @_mossmoth_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    its kinda interesting cause george r.r. martin did an interview with stephen colbert and he said "what [fromsoftware] wanted me to write was what happened 5000 years before that that totally screwed up the world" and all of the historical places talked about in this video go back about 5000 years from modern day. so maybe modern day elden ring, if were saying miyazaki is pretty much copying human history almost to a t, is 10000 years in the future from those tablets and obelisks and what not. i dunno im high

  • @Ultracity6060
    @Ultracity6060 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It occurred to me a while back that in the Lands Between, immortal souls seem bound in an eternal cycle of being born into the world, living, dying, and returning to a pool of souls to start over (currently that's returning to the Erdtree, but the cycle seems older than that). Meanwhile, the Outer Gods seem to be in constant dispute over who gets to design the mortal shells those souls inhabit during their time walking the realm. The Greater Will seems to like meat people (even its envoys are big meat fingers), as does whatever God made the Twinbird and the Deathbirds. But then you have whatever send down a meteor that created the Onyx lords (and their kin), and whatever made the Crystalians, which seems to be going for mineral people. Then there's whatever made the dragons, and the giants, and the trolls, and so on and so forth.
    If you ask me, that really doesn't sound _that_ dissimilar to the Aztec creation myth. It's possible there's some connection there.

    • @nbmoleminer5051
      @nbmoleminer5051 ปีที่แล้ว

      O wouldn't say that the Greaterwill created the Ancient Dragons and they are literally Rock and Gold with very little organic based flesh.

  • @stevenwetherbee7573
    @stevenwetherbee7573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Numen, who built the Nox cities, are not from the Lands Between so their architecture should be an anomaly. The only real timeline requirement is that they must have been in the Lands Between before the establishment of the Erd Tree since Marika is one of them.

    • @quelaag
      @quelaag  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, just like the Goths, who are not from Mesopotamia or Meterteranian societies. Theyre nomadic people from germany! So theyre effectively "alien" which is reflected in gothic architecture.

    • @quelaag
      @quelaag  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      holy shit Mediterranean**********

  • @AidenWolf97
    @AidenWolf97 ปีที่แล้ว

    the obolisk thats almost identical to the image i think it pre bought

  • @eviehorton985
    @eviehorton985 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is so cool!

    • @eviehorton985
      @eviehorton985 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about the relationship between arranging circles on the flower of life to create the tree of life and the series of circular runes that make up the elden ring?

  • @zakaryrichmond396
    @zakaryrichmond396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Once you showed the obelisk in the previous vid it shattered my thoughts on what the lands between were and now I'm so much more lost. I need to know what is with the accents its the only part I dont get

    • @botmushin8878
      @botmushin8878 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're able to freely summon spirits that manifest into the corporeal realm.. the lands between are simply the lands "between".
      A place where all time converges.

    • @zakaryrichmond396
      @zakaryrichmond396 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@botmushin8878 not according to this theory this makes the would look like more of a mirror of ours than it ever has

    • @botmushin8878
      @botmushin8878 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zakaryrichmond396 Yes this is what I meant.
      What if I told you that it's always been the case in all of their games and the "lands between" is just another name?

    • @zakaryrichmond396
      @zakaryrichmond396 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@botmushin8878 but what if it isn't on the Obelisk we can see depicted the people here before marika and all of them arriving on ships and creating the uld Dynasty which collapsed for unknown reasons we see the apothecaries trying to create life after being shunned "Underground" to their Gothic cities by a Christianity fill in. In her videos she has tried to claim that this is "the lands between" the two rivers in northeastern Africa and what I want to know is why the fuck is everyone speaking in uk based accents I'm trying to partake in this Theory without just giving up and saying that all time is converged into one place so we should give up on any Sensibility

    • @zakaryrichmond396
      @zakaryrichmond396 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@botmushin8878 sure all time being converged in one place is a fun concept but she is making me think that there's something more here and I can't ignore that to say that they just layered all of society on top of each other

  • @AidenWolf97
    @AidenWolf97 ปีที่แล้ว

    a lot of the small art that scattered around the world are bought assets that just happen to fit the game i wish it was a s deep as other souls games it would just take entirely too long

  • @eldraque4556
    @eldraque4556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ambitious😶‍🌫

  • @-fedgoy-3547
    @-fedgoy-3547 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    21:12 it's bad luck to kill a sea bird

  • @Wulfyric
    @Wulfyric 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gothic architecture isn't actually the architecture of the Goths per se, it's actually French originally, probably influenced by Arab/Persian architecture with it's more delicate and open styles admitting more light. It just got lumped with the moniker "Gothic" during the Renaissance as a byword for "barbaric" by advocates of the Neo-Classical style

    • @Wulfyric
      @Wulfyric 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Goths didn't leave much architecture behind, but the tomb of Theoderic in Ravenna's a really good example of it.

  • @MoxieWatts
    @MoxieWatts ปีที่แล้ว

    watching you stress out about the scroll mouse stressed me out lol

  • @moopster1558
    @moopster1558 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Know if you like this kinda stuff I think you'd be into this game called Elden Ring. Idk I just feel like you'd like it

  • @NamiMatsui8822
    @NamiMatsui8822 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos! What is the program you use to map out your thoughts? I remember you talking about it in a video but I can't find it!

    • @peteirrook8556
      @peteirrook8556 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I saw your comment cause i was also looking for the program and it took few hours lol but if u still havent found it it should be “Miro” or “miro whiteboard”