SPOON FN2 vs.FD2 新旧シビックRバトル【Best MOTORing】2010
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- SPOON FN2 vs.FD2 新旧シビックRバトル【Best MOTORing】2010
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HONDA CIVIC TYPE R FN2 SPOON
HONDA CIVIC TYPE R FD2
DRIVER 土屋圭市 / Keiichi Tsuchiya 織戸学 / MAX Orido
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I love my FN2, it's just such a fun car to drive and is now getting the recognition it deserves and quickly becoming a modern classic
Me too :) love mine from England
チューニングしてあるとはいえ、225のRE11でFD2と勝負できるまで仕上げたのはすごいと思う。
織戸のクロスラインうますぎ…イニDとかアニメの世界だよこれwww
内装がFN2の方がコックピット感出てて好きなんだよな〜
まぁ今はどのTypeRも好きだからこれが苦手とかってのはないけど
FN2はかわいいんだよ！
FN2こそTHEシビックって感じですよね
fn2カッコいいな
That Spoon Civic TR euro FN2 has a great handling.
fd2 is better bc rear suspension in fn2 is no independant and a ancient desing like old peugeots
MElekiaZ and yet it can keep up in the corners 🤷♂️
MElekiaZ megane rs has torsion bar and it’s one the best handling hot hatches ever
@@aijfenf4ljrwhugw285it's modified vs what looks to be a stock fd2
@@MElekiaZ That´s why the fn2 ´s rear is sliding all over the place, even with spoon´s strengthening bracket.
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FD2でしょ
カッコ良すぎ
3:46 whats that technique called?
Clutch kick. You can use this if you need to raise the revs up when you are in a higher gear. For example if you went into a corner in 3rd, instead of second and your revs have dropped, you can kick the clutch while on throttle to raise the revs and help acceleration without changing down a gear.
@@raoulb69 Why i had ACT Heavy duty clutch in EG6 could do it all day long :D
FN2が好きやな〜
fd2 is the better car. IF spoon took care of the fd2, then it would be no competition
spoon fd2 is undriveable, look the videos. porpoisings in corners every time
見た目ならFN2だなぁ
シビックといえばハッチバックだし
4ドアセダンでごちゃごちゃしてるのはランエボやインプレッサイズムがして嫌い
まぁFD2は低めでスマートだからまだ許せるけど
なんでこーゆー企画でタイヤ合わせないんだよ
5:02 めっちゃタイヤチェックしてる
why do they blip the clutch while pressing the gas pedal ?
FN2は可愛いのよ！彼女乗せても乗り心地良いって言われる！友達後部座席に乗せても狭くない！！コンビニの段差でガリガリしない！！
それからエアコンがよく効く！！！
やっぱFD2かっこいいなー
なにがいいって、対向式ワイパー笑
僕もシビックタイプR FD2が大好きです。
途中で止めたら、クワガタ
h y それもそれでありかも笑
fn2もっしょw
FD2 = boy racer's wet dream
FN2 = torsion beam _eggé_
If dori dori was in FD2 the result would have different.
2:31👍👍👍👍👍
Ha fatto l'ombrello
Modded FN2 vs Bone stock FD2 👍
All that work to just and I mean just beat the stock fd😂😂😂
@@Juicyshadowz These days the FD2R is around 3x the price of an FN2 (with good examples of the FD2R asking as much as a one or two-year-old FK8R!), so I'm not sure it is worth the premium, then again it is a future classic, and the FN2 is not, so I dunno. But the FN2 is much more comfy, so it does the role of a Prelude VTEC type everyday car better. If you just want to go as fast as possible with a circuit Civic, you could do a K20A swap into an EK or EG. :)
sure, what about putting fd's k20a engine (as stock as possible) inside an fn? I can guarantee fd wouldn't even be able to put a gap between both. Maybe it might lead through out the whole race, but i'd say it's gonna be a neck and neck race. No cap.
@@mewffhin so both cars same engine would be the same but....
The FN2 is heavier and diffrent gear ratios so I'd say it would get left behind if done as a hot lap both done by the same driver
プロやサーキット走行会へ行く方なんてほんの一握り、それ以外の人はどんなに激っぱやでも法定速度+20km出すか出さないか。
「俺が乗ってるのは乗り手と場所が場所ならめっちゃ速いクルマなんだぜ！」という満足感がとても大切ですよね。
だからこそ、カタログスペック上でネガな要素は致命的だと思うんですよね。
スポーツモデルなのにLSDが入ってないとか、サス形式がストラットとか・・・。
まずよく読んで理解してから反応返してもらえるとありがたい。
実際に速い遅いの話しじゃないです。
満足度が大切っていう話しです。
aegis higuma 装備が整ってるってのは凄く重要だったりするよ
めっちゃ重要だとも！
でも俺は｢速い車にする為にわざと｣ストラットにしたり、4ドアだったり、それでいて鈴鹿のラップタイムが殆どの国産280勢より上だったりとロマンマシマシなFD2のが好き！
FD2👍👍👍👍👍
FDが一旦引かなかったら、大差がついてFDの勝利。
くやちいいいいい！
勝って当たり前。
これで負けたらスプーンはクソ
FN2好きだけどなぁ。卵というか饅頭というか(？)愛嬌あって好み😜
速さとかかっこよさならFD2だろうけど、マイカーにするなら愛嬌とかで選んでも良いじゃん？(笑)
5年前にFD2とFN2どちらを買うか迷って、自分が3ドアハッチバック好きなのとインパネがあまりにもカッコよかったのでFN2を買った。FD2のほうが速いのは百も承知だが後悔はしていない。
Did you do any tuning for the FN2?
自分は１０年位前にＦＮ２とＦＤ２を悩んで、ＦＮ２が社外２ＤＩＮナビが付けられない事と値段が若干高い事で、ＦＤ２の方を選びました。スタイリングはＦＮ２の方が好きだったんですが。その翌年くらいにＦＮ２も社外２ＤＩＮナビが付けられるようになりましたね。そんな事で選ぶのはナンセンスなんでしょうけど、、、
EP3からFD2に乗り換えたいけど全然値落ちしねぇんだよな…
EP3もあの中古価格であのスペックって考えたらめちゃくちゃ買いなクルマなんだけど
FN2ってTopGearで散々叩かれてたけど、
スプーンがチューニングするとここまで速くなるんだね。
Dam I wish I knew Japanese 😩
FN2カッコいいな(^^)
FN2 👍👍👍👍
最近FN2 に乗り換えたけど凄い車重の重さを感じる。
頑張れFN2‼️
僕は君を応援してるよ👍
どちらもいい音ですね
なんだかんだFD2を2台乗ったのですが、4ドアでお出かけが楽って理由だけで選びました、、、
オシャレなのは圧倒的にFN2だなーって今でも思います！
ビデオ内でもユーロRって言ってるけど正式名称はタイプRユーロだからユーロRのグレードは別の車でしょ
あくまでFN2はタイプRなんだからさ
相談役のSEでふいたwww
To think these two cars were built by blokes in Swindon!
スプーンのビッグスロットルとスポーツCPUでパワー・レスポンスアップ、リジカラとシャシーの補強材？ですっごく気持ちよく走れるようになりました。
The fd2 is probably the most beautiful sedan ever made. Honda can never reach such design marvel again.
I liked the accord type r too
@@ltaper yeap accord r is better imo
ユーロRかっこよすぎ
Spoon FD2 vs Spoon FN2 😁
FN2
English subtitles please
Shows the potential of the fn2
ユーロRって言っちゃってるのが笑えるね
FN2 type R is only 198BHP in the UK.
Not 250, as per description.
Japanese always keep their best for domestic market only.
Because of emission that is why.
I'd like to point that it is spoon version so I wouldn't be surprised if they had messed around the ECU and engine. You can see the cover is different color meaning there was some work done to it (obviously beside painting the cover)
This is a Spoon FN2. Its got a K20a swap. K20as make 250 hp with simple mods. The FN2 originally came with with a K20z4 engine with 198 hp like you said.
Yepp and because this is spoon, they should already mess around with the suspension too
@@saradomin88 I think they rebuilt and blueprinted the original engine instead. The RSP cylinder head casting is the same between the FD2 version of the K20A and the K20Z4 in the FN2, they are both the revised improved casting compared to the RBC version in the earlier gen or the FA5/FG2. From what I recall, Spoon kept the original RSP long-runner intake manifold too, instead of going for an RRC from the K20A.
The only difference between the physical K20A & K20Z4 engines are the compression of the pistons, the oil pump assembly and the cam profile (crankshaft, valves, conrods etc are all the same). So if Spoon just rebuilt the original engine with higher compression pistons, the K20A oil pump (& matching baffled sump) and put in their Spoon cams, then it would be identical (or superior) to a K20A long block anyway. :)
（仕向けと生産がUKなだけで開発はどっちも栃木研究所でしょ）
fd2 is the good civic. we prefer fd2 over fn2 in europe but sad honda dont make fd2 for us :(
MElekiaZ - I would want the 226 hp from fd2 in the fn2. I really prefer the looks of the fn2, but I agree with you anyway. Why keeping a 226 hp model only for them selves?
@@steelbear4887 because JDM K20A failed to meet european emission requirement that is why..
ここまでやってノーマルのFD2で1秒落ちって凄いな
ここまでやってやっと勝てるってFD2の速さが分かる
タイヤがまず違うよ
FN2かっこえぇな、FD2は静かで滑るように速い！
ユーロRってボディが好き
タイプrユーロね
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Hector is gonna be running three Honda Civics with Spoon engines, and on top of that he just came into Harry's and he ordered three T66 Turbo's with NOS.....And a MoTec system exhaust.
Still prefer the IMA and FD2
3:24
自分用
好みの問題だと思うけど、俺はFD2の方が好きだな。
だって単純にカッコいいもん。巨大なリアスポイラーも男らしいし。
Kamen Rider Joker左 翔太郎
σ(ﾟ∀ﾟ)ｵﾚﾓｵﾚﾓ
4ドアだったり軽かったりでほんと好き
ENG SUB PLEASE
All those modifications done to the FN2 and it just barely beats a bone stock FD2, yet some people still argue that the FN2 isn't the worst Type R model that Honda has ever produced, and before you say anything the EP3 Civic Type R that we've got are the Japanese-spec models, not the less powerful, softer suspension, longer gearing and open diff European-spec models.
ATだけどFD2かっこいいんだよなぁ
ハイブリッドモデルとかも見た目はなんだかんだかっこいいですよね
Haven’t got a clue what they’re saying, but anyway - shouldn’t a 226 hp fd2 beat a 201 hp fn2? That fn2 can absolutely not be stock.
It's a spoon version, so far from stock.
Yeah...250hp
FN2 is 250PS (Spoon edition) with lots of bars to stiff the chassis installed. 1320kg + weight of new bars so maybe 1330-1340kg
FD2 is 225PS (Stock) and the entire car looks stock to be honest. 1270kg
The FD2 has a longer wheelbase and is lighter making it a much more stable car in high speed bends. The chassis on the FD2 is far more technically advanced too, with use of lighter, but stronger materials and more welds. However the the extra bit of power and shorter wheelbase make the FN2 much more agile in the tight bends.
The FD2 is on 18inch wheels vs the FN2's 17 inch. For this track it gave the FN2 the advantage as it was able to accelerate quicker out of the corners, due to less unsprung weight as well as less inertia.
If I had to choose I would pick the fn2. not because it won, but it's just a far better looking car. The FD2 is a better built civic though. But if i COULD really choose, it would have to be the FN2 Mugen. 260PS, more torque, lighter, better looking again over the standard type r fn2.
@@rotatingglasssafe the same here 👍🏻
FD2って好きな人多いイメージと乗ってる人多いイメージだけど
走ってるところ見たことないわ
EK9 EP3 FN2 FK2 FK8はあるけど
やっぱ断然FD2の方がいいw
かっこいいし｡ユーロRはあまり好きじゃないな〜
僕もFD2の方が好きです。
僕はシビックタイプR FD2が一番好きです。
わかってますねぇ。 わかり会える相手がいて良かったです。
EuroR…エモい…
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