I think Leo missed the point, as 011 Dynamic is uniquely unsuited for the demonstration of the Seasonic Connect installation. In the conventional case, on the other hand, it would allow to preserve 2-bay 3.5” drive cage, stuff single Seasonic Connect cable in the basement, under the shroud, between PSU and a drive cage and still have very neat routing of the remaining cables. I absolutely hate stuffing all the cables (including unused, just in case) in that small space when the "conventional" modular power supply is used, don’t like to sacrifice the 3.5” drive cage or be limited to a short power supply. I do think that Seasonic Connect is a great solution for me! I couldn't care less for RGBs...
The issue is that while the back gets "cleaner"(but not really considering everything was hidden by a bracket before) the front turns ugly. Those graphics card and 24 pin cables are disgustingly bad for the effort put in.
Well, it would depend on the case you use. If you are using a very tall case, it can be a pain to get cables that are long enough to reach from the PSU to the top of the case for CPU power. On the other hand, if you have a small case, like mini-ATX, ITX, etc. this is probably dead overkill. Rather spend the extra cost on a GPU.
@@Grimmwoldds yes but now you don't need a bracket, and as far as the cables go, if you get cable mod ( because standard cables provided by ALL PSUs are gross) you can get custom lengths anyway AND pay less because the cables would all be shorter overall. this was a bad example used by this individual while understandably only using cables he himself already owned, then like i said, if you are getting this PSU you can then buy cheaper cables because of shorter lengths, which he did not get himself.
I love the idea! But whilst it's an elegant solution, it solves what amounts to only a minor inconvenience for me personally... There is definitely a market out there for it though.
everything in the PC world when separated into small parts is a minor "inconvenience" one less hassle to deal with is still one less hassle. did we NEED 2 swing doors on our pc? no, still only a minor inconvenience to take off the 1 or 2 screws to take off our panels, oh the horror. do we even need pc cases with tempered class when plexi does the same thing? no, and that is just aesthetic, not a convince feature. and do we even need cable channels to rout cabling? well since it is all inside of your pc case that has no windows then no it does not even matter.
I build hard-line water cooled high end computers and would love this. I would want a higher wattages. This with custom length cables would be amazing. Especially with all the RGB and fan cables that get in the way.
Cut some holes in the case across the length so you can fit the connect-bar externally prefferably at the bottom of the case so you can use the magnets to attach it to the metal sidepanel.
This would look even better with some custom cables. It's 2022 now and I still have not seen anything quite like the Seasonic Connect from other suppliers. I think it looks great, and the efficiency of DC to DC conversion results in cooler running too. There is a lot to like about this system.
The day we will get only the bar without the box putting out 700-800 watts, will be the true revolution. The only good thing for this is that it is not much expensive then the normal seasonic power supply.
This connect unit would work best in cases that have above or below MB mounted PSU where you can clearly see the cables coming from the PSU running to the back of the MB tray. This unit would reduce that spaghetti to a clean single cable. The 011 starts with everything already hidden so it was a bad choice to best display this type of feature.
Conceptually I think it is great idea. But I think case compatibility will be an issue and until case manufacturers take it into consideration, the average joe won’t consider. From an enthusiast point of view, the connection layout may not be ideal. Almost feel an ‘L’ shape might be better.
If Seasonic could partner with some Case Manufacturers to design cases with the connect as an integrated feature it would be a better arrangement. Fitment would not be so hit or miss, and even cable modders could use that to their advantage with shorter runs. As much as I really like this idea, it's impractical for me. I'll just keep my Seasonic 750 Focus + Gold.
As for cable mods, they have a place for some users of custom built PC (it's about choices, at the end of the day). I'm currently running a OCZ 750w ZT (after my corsair tx650w failed, many years ago). I've basically cable managed (around 1 hour for: 3950X+NH-D15, 5700XT, 5 sata drives + 7 case fans) but never really seen the point of, spending £40-£50+ for sleeved cables. That won't been seen in my define R6 (no window). That's money I would prefer to use (in part), for an upgrade later down the line (like a failed PSU).
Being someone who uses an O11 Dynamic I would have to say that the Seasonic Connect doesn't really fit properly and ends up making (as seen with your build) the build look messy from a cable point of view. It's 24 pin and GPU power cable placements are too high for the majority of motherboards which is more an issue of the PSU to Connect cable being too short and it's pretty much useless if you have to use anything like a commander pro or Thermaltake's controller for RGB and fan control. Really, it's something designed to be used in a more conventionally designed case, maybe even for people who don't really want to spend much time managing cables. It's a nice product though and something I would like to see more of.
@@robertdunlop5247 No, My 360 AIO is mounted in the roof of the case pulling air in with fans on the side pushing air out. I find this not only looks neater (tubes don't look so taught and large gap is hidden better) but is more efficient (barely)
I think this is a precursor of an ATX12VO PSU for meeting emission requirements and compatibility with current motherboard designs. (Not as shown, the main box isn't 12VO compliant, but a potential design direction.)
Interesting design. I think Seasonic is on the right track, the power distribution cables in a desktop these days are kind of a one size fits all, so when a power supply manufacturer supplies cables to reach long enough (particularly given top and bottom and apparently side mounts), there is a lot to tuck away and hide. And long cables (particularly unshielded) are electrically not that good, though DC ones, maybe not that bad. The best solution would probably be for case manufacturers to do their own power cable routing, with short jumpers to connect to the motherboard and graphics cards, maybe eventually evolve to plug-in motherboards. That would also clean up airflow, I don't know how many systems I've seen where the graphics card has some airflow blockage from cables. Absent that, a distribution bar, like the one by Seasonic, makes a lot of sense. I have to say though, I am not sure I really like the concept of using magnets to attach, particularly around mechanical hard disks.
I would be more interested to know how well it performs in relation to the standard version. Having that extra space for filtering could, in theory, provide an opportunity to enhance the filtering quite significantly. The real estate available is much larger. I could also see this being very useful and appealing in something like a Fractal Define S (and variants/revisions). It could mount in the empty space left for water cooling components and be fitted with custom, very short run cables.
After getting knee deep into making my own cables I learned a few things, one of which is that some stock cables come with capacitors in for filtering and they are supposed to be place as close to the component as possible but they aren't necessarily required. I think this design will get around that. Since this was released though Seasonic have released the SYNCRO line which have a variety of wattage and a case specifically designed for it
Q: Is there a physical reason why motherboards can't be redesigned so that all cable connectors are on the back side, so there is no need for visible cables to be seen from the front?
Exactly! The frontend cables needs to go.Just plug the cables from a regular PSU into sockets on the back of the motherboard, that would be an elegant solution! Or even better, standardize the motherboard back socket layout and use a construction like the Seasonic and just press that entire slab onto the back sockets. One cable, no fuss.
Unlikely to happen as: 1) It is best practice to install CPU heatsink and RAM outside of the case but this would cease to be safe/practical with protrusions on the rear of the motherboard PCB 2) Although most cases have a cut-out in the motherboard tray for easy swapping of CPU coolers, it's existence, location and size are not standardized. If you were to mount the EPS 12v connector (probably the one that would benefit the most) in this space there would be an increase in returns, loss of sales and tarnishing of brand from people discovering the board is incompatible with their case 3) Mounting connectors on the back would add effective height to the board which would have to be reflected in packaging increasing volume and increasing shipping costs (although weight is more important, extra height would practically restrict the number of boards per pallet). The much more practical alternative is increasing prevalence of 90° angled connectors and cases coming with cable management bars that protrude from the motherboard tray so cables from the 90° connectors can run straight into them therefore having the unsightly cable bends hidden. Backwards compatibility for E-ATX boards and boards without 90° connectors can be maintained by having the bar as a removable component over a standard flat & holed motherboard tray.
Did you try mounting the Connect to the modesty plate? On the inside, that is, so the Connect unit would be entirely hidden. What disappoints me about the Connect is that the cable between the PSU and the Connect unit isn't fully modular. BTW with making cables look good on the front, have you had a look at 90 degree and 180 degree power adapters?
The magnets do not hurt your data ?? I think I can see third-party cable upgrades to the connect, or maybe modifying the connect such as changing it from black or adding bling. I think it might work better in some other case such as mayb the XL version of that Lian Li case. Maybe the cable between the connect and the psu needs a short coupling adapter or a way to adjust the bend in the hose ??
Honestly if the main target market for this product is for people who love clean looking cables, they should have thrown in individual cable sleeves. Now it would be even more difficult to find short cable sleeve to complement this product.
Nice idea, but the implementation makes it kind of pointless, and only adds additional problems (thickness, cable placement, led colour...). It's just a box to hide cables, try could have just released a box to hide the cables where you can hide the slack. I guess its good that they're not charging loads for this, so its a step in the right direction (as long as you have a compatible case). ill stick to the velcro tape which cost next to nothing and it can be used everywhere, I recently used it to hang a desk fan in an open window when it was hot and there wasn't much wind. it worked great and I'm not going to run out anytime soon. Also, have adhesive velcro to hide the cables under my desk (have over a dozen devices plugged into the wall plus 8 or so USB devises coming out of the back of my PC yet no mess [that's visible anyway]). /coolStoryBro
PS: For transparency may want to add that Seasonic is a major sponsor of this channel. I feel this may have coloured the review a little, you could have been more critical. I'm not calling you a shrill, but it is worth mentioning (it's a little like telling a child that their painting sucks).
@@garethevans9789Maybe Leo sincerely likes it, of course they are a sponsor but as long as they work together they know him and he can be quite brutal in his criticism as about "This case shouldn't exist!" Even though I feel where you are coming from, this product may be pointless to you and me but its still a Seasonic powersupply which means it's gonna deliver (power) (edit) and quality that is undeniably superb.
I wonder if the short cable out of the PSU will suit cases with the PSU in the main compartment - I was surprised there was no extension cable provided. It'd take some careful thought to make sure it will fit before buying it. And then making sure the cables will be in the right place for your needs.
Just what I want in a PSU, a second point of failure. Oh, and magnets near the RAM? That is just asking for trouble. Guess we should all switch to ECC.
I think its a clever idea for less cable clutter - Perfect for putting between the mb backplate and the chassis but better look up the clearance before committing to the solution
The Silverstone Alta F1 (awesome case coming Sept - look out for it) is unfortunately coming configured with a glass back panel so this might be a useful for that. Seeing as it is going to a premium priced case (~$180) then it's not so outlandish to use a £160 power supply. As a bonus it is a 90 degree rotated case to the Seasonic logo would be the right way up!
I think the Connect would be really nice if cases were designed with it in mind. Or better yet, if the power distribution bar was custom designed for (or built into) the case with a standard cable for connecting it to the power supply. I think Seasonic will need to partner with a good case manufacturer for this to succeed in the market. The problem today is that most premium power supply buyers will buy premium cases, and those cases come cable management features that mitigate the mess of traditional cables while being likely to get in the way of the Connect. Also the benefit of Connect is reduced by RGB which tends to create it's own rats' nest of cables in the case.
It's a bit conspiracy-theory-y but seems possible that this is a way of testing the waters/paving the way for externalizing some PSU components. Redesigning PSUs is expensive so they could well have made a 'box' that is ATX12VO compliant and needs the bar to work with current motherboards.
I could see this being a great choice for those building caseless and wall-mounted PCs. But to be honest, I thought the cables looked horrible on display and wouldn't want this in an actual cased-in build.
Instead of using "Extensions" from cable mod. You use replacement cables, this is not needed, but makes the end rig look nicer. Overall, a PC builder will make sure the cables are managed to start with assuming the PC builder is smart.
The epitome of a marketing solution to a problem that doesn't exist. The odds on these still being around in a year - close to zero - relatively impartial
Don't like that one, too many points of failure, big and clunky, many cases will have problems with fitment, not even the main unit is smaller because of the cablebar. It is different, but why? There is no different approach to PSU's because they work perfectly fine for all the use cases. Different sizes and modularity are allready a thing and with M.2 a perfect build only has three to five cables to deal with. This is as innovation hidden regression, and with 12VO in the future this thing looks like DOA.
Leo, you missed one group out, the boring old farts who`ve discovered that a steel side panel covers a multitude of cabling sins but would still like to build a neat interior because their OCD makes them remember what it looks like! I think that this is a really useful product for that group. Wondered how it would do in the Fractal design compact 7?
Leo here: Two things; first that would cover the ventilation holes in the CONNECT and second it seems clear Seasonic has used a steel plate down the length of the CONNECT so the back is magnetic but the ventilated front is only plastic.
I think this is a great concept just pointed to the wrong market, why an ATX form factor, make it ITX and make the bar modular from the box, on ATX cases with a drive cage it saves space having just a cable to take care off
I think when an item is included to a system that compromises and adds nothing to the system,then it’s not really a go-er,whatsoever.A very limited but still interesting approach all the same. As Leo says,it’s interesting.The O11 dynamic Probably highlights the real changes that the PC scene REALLY needs=pc case innovations,love the o11’s and Corsair cube style cases-too many are still basic boxes.
It's just a gimmick imo. Your example looked tidier than it did before you changed the PSU. You're just using up more space with that monstrosity and you can't put the plate back on. If someone really wanted to use one of those PSU's, you're going to have to find a case to allow you to comfortably use it. Choosing a case to allow the fitting of this is counter-intuitive to building a PC.
Not really though. All you really need is shorter replacement cables and everything looks clean. Cablemod let's you customize your cable length, cable colors and type of cable (+ cable combs if you want it) which in combination with connect actually makes everything look really clean. Just look at GGF event's overview and build implementation of the connect and you'll see just how clean it can make cable management with proper custom length cables.
the main advantage of this pws is completely ignored: the ability to make changes to connection with ease. once a build is complete every minor change that require power is a nightmare exactly for that - power connection. with this concept we can change drives, fans and other powered stuff with ease. and a lot of builders often change the build in time, a better drive, a bigger one, a different fan, a new gizmo for rgb / fan management and so on.
you are better off bye not using extensions will cause your power supply to burn out. i ran in this problem a few years ago. so stopped using them and would get me custom cable that are the right length.
The question is: why a PC-building-based business produce content using thousands of $$ of Apple products? This is mesmerizing at least for me. Anyways, I do appreciate this channel.
99,9% of people don't have a Lian li quality case with that good cable management. Really should do the test with the worst case instead of one if the best of you want to prove a point.
Why, oh why, oh why doesn't Seasonic charge an additional £20 to make it premium and, instead of horrible liquorice cables, have a nicer set of paracorded cables. Corsair can do it for my RM850X White which sells for £150 (although I got it for £140 ) and includes cables which are sold separately for £80. So Seasonic could easily do it and target the premium market that this is obviously aimed at.
Connect should come with cables like cable mods. Infact all good PSUs should come with cable mod style cables. They could do it cheaper and faster than cablemod can. I personally don't believe so many people out there pay that much for cable mod. Its more than half the price of the entire PSU ffs. I dont understand how pc nerds are clueless to how bad they get ripped off. Well, I guess thanks to a lot of youtubers stuffing products down peoples throats literally programming them to buy said parts. It makes sense, unfortunately.
This has zero sense, what Leo accurately noticed: In front we're back to square one. At the back we lost functionality and gained nothing. On top of that you still wanna buy a decent cable replacement... Just plain dumb idea - it cannot work because to get it to it's potential it would have to be supported by chassis manufacturers. For all I can see: decent fully modular PSU with nice braided cables or cable replacement kit, will look better.
I never really dug into this thing, but it looks to me as if it's some kind of first attempt to create a ATX12VO-PSU which can be extended to a full blown ATX-PSU. The form factor itself is horrible, no discussion about that.
how are we back to square one? leo did a poor job of showing off how to manage the cables, and if you are going to get custom cables anyway, now with this PSU you can get shorter ones, therefore a little extra money for something else.
at 6 min it´s 100% no they are on sale now still not an option when we have atx 3,0 but even if we diden´t have the new standard all that extra work for what ? full mod psu to day it is not meny cables and if you have a rgb fan hub like i have it just makes it another 6-10 min so with some room for error you look at 20 min to conect a psu cant belive this is number 4 on prisjakt/pricerunner and is the psu in mounted o nthe side like that stops air flow. When you had all that cables it reminded me of 10-20 years ago 4 sata 3 gpu now days what do you have one to the fan hub 2 to gpu one to mb and m2 is on the mb already 2 to the cpu not meny cables now days with only one gpu and 2 m2 drives that cost nothing to day
I think Leo missed the point, as 011 Dynamic is uniquely unsuited for the demonstration of the Seasonic Connect installation. In the conventional case, on the other hand, it would allow to preserve 2-bay 3.5” drive cage, stuff single Seasonic Connect cable in the basement, under the shroud, between PSU and a drive cage and still have very neat routing of the remaining cables.
I absolutely hate stuffing all the cables (including unused, just in case) in that small space when the "conventional" modular power supply is used, don’t like to sacrifice the 3.5” drive cage or be limited to a short power supply.
I do think that Seasonic Connect is a great solution for me! I couldn't care less for RGBs...
8:38 "i love the novelty of it" yep. agreed.
I prob didn't develop enough OCD to use this product yet. So far it looks like an answer to a non asked question.
The issue is that while the back gets "cleaner"(but not really considering everything was hidden by a bracket before) the front turns ugly. Those graphics card and 24 pin cables are disgustingly bad for the effort put in.
Well, it would depend on the case you use. If you are using a very tall case, it can be a pain to get cables that are long enough to reach from the PSU to the top of the case for CPU power. On the other hand, if you have a small case, like mini-ATX, ITX, etc. this is probably dead overkill. Rather spend the extra cost on a GPU.
you are absolutely right :D
@@Grimmwoldds yes but now you don't need a bracket, and as far as the cables go, if you get cable mod ( because standard cables provided by ALL PSUs are gross) you can get custom lengths anyway AND pay less because the cables would all be shorter overall. this was a bad example used by this individual while understandably only using cables he himself already owned, then like i said, if you are getting this PSU you can then buy cheaper cables because of shorter lengths, which he did not get himself.
I love the idea! But whilst it's an elegant solution, it solves what amounts to only a minor inconvenience for me personally... There is definitely a market out there for it though.
everything in the PC world when separated into small parts is a minor "inconvenience" one less hassle to deal with is still one less hassle. did we NEED 2 swing doors on our pc? no, still only a minor inconvenience to take off the 1 or 2 screws to take off our panels, oh the horror. do we even need pc cases with tempered class when plexi does the same thing? no, and that is just aesthetic, not a convince feature. and do we even need cable channels to rout cabling? well since it is all inside of your pc case that has no windows then no it does not even matter.
I build hard-line water cooled high end computers and would love this. I would want a higher wattages. This with custom length cables would be amazing. Especially with all the RGB and fan cables that get in the way.
Cut some holes in the case across the length so you can fit the connect-bar externally prefferably at the bottom of the case so you can use the magnets to attach it to the metal sidepanel.
This would look even better with some custom cables.
It's 2022 now and I still have not seen anything quite like the Seasonic Connect from other suppliers. I think it looks great, and the efficiency of DC to DC conversion results in cooler running too.
There is a lot to like about this system.
It's great when it fits, I love it. Corsair will need to certify every case for fitment though if they want these to sell.
Thats why seasonic have a the 2020 eu excellence award. Cos they deserved it!!
I admire Seasonic's attempt to do something different. However, I think this might be a case of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
The day we will get only the bar without the box putting out 700-800 watts, will be the true revolution. The only good thing for this is that it is not much expensive then the normal seasonic power supply.
This connect unit would work best in cases that have above or below MB mounted PSU where you can clearly see the cables coming from the PSU running to the back of the MB tray. This unit would reduce that spaghetti to a clean single cable. The 011 starts with everything already hidden so it was a bad choice to best display this type of feature.
Very nice. Thank you, Leo.
Seasonic is Noctua but for PSUs, this is the best way I can explain it !
Leo's excellent review has convinced me that this Seasonic CONNECT is not for me. As others have said, it is kind of an answer to a non-problem.
Conceptually I think it is great idea. But I think case compatibility will be an issue and until case manufacturers take it into consideration, the average joe won’t consider. From an enthusiast point of view, the connection layout may not be ideal. Almost feel an ‘L’ shape might be better.
If Seasonic could partner with some Case Manufacturers to design cases with the connect as an integrated feature it would be a better arrangement. Fitment would not be so hit or miss, and even cable modders could use that to their advantage with shorter runs. As much as I really like this idea, it's impractical for me. I'll just keep my Seasonic 750 Focus + Gold.
As for cable mods, they have a place for some users of custom built PC (it's about choices, at the end of the day). I'm currently running a OCZ 750w ZT (after my corsair tx650w failed, many years ago). I've basically cable managed (around 1 hour for: 3950X+NH-D15, 5700XT, 5 sata drives + 7 case fans) but never really seen the point of, spending £40-£50+ for sleeved cables. That won't been seen in my define R6 (no window). That's money I would prefer to use (in part), for an upgrade later down the line (like a failed PSU).
Being someone who uses an O11 Dynamic I would have to say that the Seasonic Connect doesn't really fit properly and ends up making (as seen with your build) the build look messy from a cable point of view. It's 24 pin and GPU power cable placements are too high for the majority of motherboards which is more an issue of the PSU to Connect cable being too short and it's pretty much useless if you have to use anything like a commander pro or Thermaltake's controller for RGB and fan control. Really, it's something designed to be used in a more conventionally designed case, maybe even for people who don't really want to spend much time managing cables. It's a nice product though and something I would like to see more of.
Captain_Cole yup,it compromises rather than adds anything.
I gotta agree with you. I have this case and it's got plenty of space but this... Wtf is going on? lol Did you put your AIO in this configuration?
@@robertdunlop5247 No, My 360 AIO is mounted in the roof of the case pulling air in with fans on the side pushing air out. I find this not only looks neater (tubes don't look so taught and large gap is hidden better) but is more efficient (barely)
I think this is a precursor of an ATX12VO PSU for meeting emission requirements and compatibility with current motherboard designs. (Not as shown, the main box isn't 12VO compliant, but a potential design direction.)
Interesting design. I think Seasonic is on the right track, the power distribution cables in a desktop these days are kind of a one size fits all, so when a power supply manufacturer supplies cables to reach long enough (particularly given top and bottom and apparently side mounts), there is a lot to tuck away and hide. And long cables (particularly unshielded) are electrically not that good, though DC ones, maybe not that bad. The best solution would probably be for case manufacturers to do their own power cable routing, with short jumpers to connect to the motherboard and graphics cards, maybe eventually evolve to plug-in motherboards. That would also clean up airflow, I don't know how many systems I've seen where the graphics card has some airflow blockage from cables. Absent that, a distribution bar, like the one by Seasonic, makes a lot of sense. I have to say though, I am not sure I really like the concept of using magnets to attach, particularly around mechanical hard disks.
I would be more interested to know how well it performs in relation to the standard version. Having that extra space for filtering could, in theory, provide an opportunity to enhance the filtering quite significantly. The real estate available is much larger. I could also see this being very useful and appealing in something like a Fractal Define S (and variants/revisions). It could mount in the empty space left for water cooling components and be fitted with custom, very short run cables.
After getting knee deep into making my own cables I learned a few things, one of which is that some stock cables come with capacitors in for filtering and they are supposed to be place as close to the component as possible but they aren't necessarily required. I think this design will get around that. Since this was released though Seasonic have released the SYNCRO line which have a variety of wattage and a case specifically designed for it
Q: Is there a physical reason why motherboards can't be redesigned so that all cable connectors are on the back side, so there is no need for visible cables to be seen from the front?
Exactly! The frontend cables needs to go.Just plug the cables from a regular PSU into sockets on the back of the motherboard, that would be an elegant solution! Or even better, standardize the motherboard back socket layout and use a construction like the Seasonic and just press that entire slab onto the back sockets. One cable, no fuss.
@@TheMack Great minds do think alike. 👍
Unlikely to happen as:
1) It is best practice to install CPU heatsink and RAM outside of the case but this would cease to be safe/practical with protrusions on the rear of the motherboard PCB
2) Although most cases have a cut-out in the motherboard tray for easy swapping of CPU coolers, it's existence, location and size are not standardized. If you were to mount the EPS 12v connector (probably the one that would benefit the most) in this space there would be an increase in returns, loss of sales and tarnishing of brand from people discovering the board is incompatible with their case
3) Mounting connectors on the back would add effective height to the board which would have to be reflected in packaging increasing volume and increasing shipping costs (although weight is more important, extra height would practically restrict the number of boards per pallet).
The much more practical alternative is increasing prevalence of 90° angled connectors and cases coming with cable management bars that protrude from the motherboard tray so cables from the 90° connectors can run straight into them therefore having the unsightly cable bends hidden.
Backwards compatibility for E-ATX boards and boards without 90° connectors can be maintained by having the bar as a removable component over a standard flat & holed motherboard tray.
Did you try mounting the Connect to the modesty plate? On the inside, that is, so the Connect unit would be entirely hidden.
What disappoints me about the Connect is that the cable between the PSU and the Connect unit isn't fully modular.
BTW with making cables look good on the front, have you had a look at 90 degree and 180 degree power adapters?
The magnets do not hurt your data ?? I think I can see third-party cable upgrades to the connect, or maybe modifying the connect such as changing it from black or adding bling. I think it might work better in some other case such as mayb the XL version of that Lian Li case. Maybe the cable between the connect and the psu needs a short coupling adapter or a way to adjust the bend in the hose ??
What a good idea for a psu, Great Review btf
Nice to see you use The Lian Li case with the connect. My new system build using both those in it, and I was wondering how it looked.
Honestly if the main target market for this product is for people who love clean looking cables, they should have thrown in individual cable sleeves. Now it would be even more difficult to find short cable sleeve to complement this product.
Nice idea, but the implementation makes it kind of pointless, and only adds additional problems (thickness, cable placement, led colour...). It's just a box to hide cables, try could have just released a box to hide the cables where you can hide the slack.
I guess its good that they're not charging loads for this, so its a step in the right direction (as long as you have a compatible case). ill stick to the velcro tape which cost next to nothing and it can be used everywhere, I recently used it to hang a desk fan in an open window when it was hot and there wasn't much wind. it worked great and I'm not going to run out anytime soon. Also, have adhesive velcro to hide the cables under my desk (have over a dozen devices plugged into the wall plus 8 or so USB devises coming out of the back of my PC yet no mess [that's visible anyway]).
/coolStoryBro
PS: For transparency may want to add that Seasonic is a major sponsor of this channel. I feel this may have coloured the review a little, you could have been more critical. I'm not calling you a shrill, but it is worth mentioning (it's a little like telling a child that their painting sucks).
@@garethevans9789Maybe Leo sincerely likes it, of course they are a sponsor but as long as they work together they know him and he can be quite brutal in his criticism as about "This case shouldn't exist!"
Even though I feel where you are coming from, this product may be pointless to you and me but its still a Seasonic powersupply which means it's gonna deliver (power) (edit) and quality that is undeniably superb.
I wonder if the short cable out of the PSU will suit cases with the PSU in the main compartment - I was surprised there was no extension cable provided. It'd take some careful thought to make sure it will fit before buying it. And then making sure the cables will be in the right place for your needs.
Just what I want in a PSU, a second point of failure. Oh, and magnets near the RAM? That is just asking for trouble. Guess we should all switch to ECC.
Love seasonic, best PSU’s and an insane warranty... they also manufacture everything in house, unlike Corsair and others
I just want the brick to be honest. I hope they sell it individually
I think its a clever idea for less cable clutter - Perfect for putting between the mb backplate and the chassis but better look up the clearance before committing to the solution
The Silverstone Alta F1 (awesome case coming Sept - look out for it) is unfortunately coming configured with a glass back panel so this might be a useful for that. Seeing as it is going to a premium priced case (~$180) then it's not so outlandish to use a £160 power supply. As a bonus it is a 90 degree rotated case to the Seasonic logo would be the right way up!
I think the Connect would be really nice if cases were designed with it in mind. Or better yet, if the power distribution bar was custom designed for (or built into) the case with a standard cable for connecting it to the power supply. I think Seasonic will need to partner with a good case manufacturer for this to succeed in the market.
The problem today is that most premium power supply buyers will buy premium cases, and those cases come cable management features that mitigate the mess of traditional cables while being likely to get in the way of the Connect. Also the benefit of Connect is reduced by RGB which tends to create it's own rats' nest of cables in the case.
I presumed it was some halfway house towards Intel's new ATX12VO specification
It's a bit conspiracy-theory-y but seems possible that this is a way of testing the waters/paving the way for externalizing some PSU components. Redesigning PSUs is expensive so they could well have made a 'box' that is ATX12VO compliant and needs the bar to work with current motherboards.
You beat me to it!
The desktop PDU has arrived!
Missed opportunity, make the power supply external to the breakout and itx fans would go wild for this.....
I could see this being a great choice for those building caseless and wall-mounted PCs. But to be honest, I thought the cables looked horrible on display and wouldn't want this in an actual cased-in build.
That sounds like a very chunky bit of kit. I could definitely see this in another good case the Corsair 500D SE.
Instead of using "Extensions" from cable mod.
You use replacement cables, this is not needed, but makes the end rig look nicer.
Overall, a PC builder will make sure the cables are managed to start with assuming the PC builder is smart.
The idea behind a power distribution board is good i just don't think it works here.
The epitome of a marketing solution to a problem that doesn't exist. The odds on these still being around in a year - close to zero - relatively impartial
Don't like that one, too many points of failure, big and clunky, many cases will have problems with fitment, not even the main unit is smaller because of the cablebar.
It is different, but why? There is no different approach to PSU's because they work perfectly fine for all the use cases. Different sizes and modularity are allready a thing and with M.2 a perfect build only has three to five cables to deal with. This is as innovation hidden regression, and with 12VO in the future this thing looks like DOA.
Leo, you missed one group out, the boring old farts who`ve discovered that a steel side panel covers a multitude of cabling sins but would still like to build a neat interior because their OCD makes them remember what it looks like! I think that this is a really useful product for that group. Wondered how it would do in the Fractal design compact 7?
Perhaps there is a market for decals that go on the outside of the steel side panel that purport to show the on-point cable job.
Was I the only one thinking to use the magnets on the drive plate instead of on the rear of the motherboard mount? I know, but that would work.
Leo here: Two things; first that would cover the ventilation holes in the CONNECT and second it seems clear Seasonic has used a steel plate down the length of the CONNECT so the back is magnetic but the ventilated front is only plastic.
@@KitGuruTech I did mean it would face inwards, but I couldn't think of any other way for it to fit.
I think this is a great concept just pointed to the wrong market, why an ATX form factor, make it ITX and make the bar modular from the box, on ATX cases with a drive cage it saves space having just a cable to take care off
The idea is good,the magnet mounting is pants,need to screw the BOB in with screws!
Do you have any information when Dark Power Pro 12 might be coming?
It would be more interesting if the psu was smaller than the standard
I'm wondering about heat. I can see the connect bar is packed with components and is vented. is it just spreading PSU heat around the case?
I think when an item is included to a system that compromises and adds nothing to the system,then it’s not really a go-er,whatsoever.A very limited but still interesting approach all the same. As Leo says,it’s interesting.The O11 dynamic Probably highlights the real changes that the PC scene REALLY needs=pc case innovations,love the o11’s and Corsair cube style cases-too many are still basic boxes.
Review the fanless 700w please
My next psu ❤️
It cleans the backside but messes up the front one, which is more important.
It's a solution looking for a problem.
It's just a gimmick imo. Your example looked tidier than it did before you changed the PSU. You're just using up more space with that monstrosity and you can't put the plate back on. If someone really wanted to use one of those PSU's, you're going to have to find a case to allow you to comfortably use it. Choosing a case to allow the fitting of this is counter-intuitive to building a PC.
Not really though. All you really need is shorter replacement cables and everything looks clean. Cablemod let's you customize your cable length, cable colors and type of cable (+ cable combs if you want it) which in combination with connect actually makes everything look really clean. Just look at GGF event's overview and build implementation of the connect and you'll see just how clean it can make cable management with proper custom length cables.
My all aluminum case from Lian Li doesn't have any steel in it dude.
I guess a nice idea... but not for me.....
the main advantage of this pws is completely ignored: the ability to make changes to connection with ease.
once a build is complete every minor change that require power is a nightmare exactly for that - power connection.
with this concept we can change drives, fans and other powered stuff with ease.
and a lot of builders often change the build in time, a better drive, a bigger one, a different fan, a new gizmo for rgb / fan management and so on.
you are better off bye not using extensions will cause your power supply to burn out. i ran in this problem a few years ago. so stopped using them and would get me custom cable that are the right length.
The question is: why a PC-building-based business produce content using thousands of $$ of Apple products? This is mesmerizing at least for me.
Anyways, I do appreciate this channel.
When you say 'PC building based business' you presumably mean KitGuru. We are a reviews and news website www.kitguru.net that also does video.
99,9% of people don't have a Lian li quality case with that good cable management. Really should do the test with the worst case instead of one if the best of you want to prove a point.
Why, oh why, oh why doesn't Seasonic charge an additional £20 to make it premium and, instead of horrible liquorice cables, have a nicer set of paracorded cables. Corsair can do it for my RM850X White which sells for £150 (although I got it for £140 ) and includes cables which are sold separately for £80. So Seasonic could easily do it and target the premium market that this is obviously aimed at.
With some good Cable management this kit is very unnecessary!
why do you even need cable management when it is all hidden behind a door no one will see anyway?
It's a Seasonic, it has Seasonic written on it, the quality is Seasonic... need i say more...
If mounted in a 90° rotated case then Seasonic will be up the right way!
Connect should come with cables like cable mods. Infact all good PSUs should come with cable mod style cables. They could do it cheaper and faster than cablemod can.
I personally don't believe so many people out there pay that much for cable mod. Its more than half the price of the entire PSU ffs. I dont understand how pc nerds are clueless to how bad they get ripped off.
Well, I guess thanks to a lot of youtubers stuffing products down peoples throats literally programming them to buy said parts. It makes sense, unfortunately.
Good in concept - but not something I'm interested in.
Are you trying to sell us this product or warn us away from it?!
I'm confused
This has zero sense, what Leo accurately noticed:
In front we're back to square one.
At the back we lost functionality and gained nothing.
On top of that you still wanna buy a decent cable replacement...
Just plain dumb idea - it cannot work because to get it to it's potential it would have to be supported by chassis manufacturers.
For all I can see: decent fully modular PSU with nice braided cables or cable replacement kit, will look better.
I never really dug into this thing, but it looks to me as if it's some kind of first attempt to create a ATX12VO-PSU which can be extended to a full blown ATX-PSU. The form factor itself is horrible, no discussion about that.
how are we back to square one? leo did a poor job of showing off how to manage the cables, and if you are going to get custom cables anyway, now with this PSU you can get shorter ones, therefore a little extra money for something else.
at 6 min it´s 100% no they are on sale now still not an option when we have atx 3,0 but even if we diden´t have the new standard all that extra work for what ? full mod psu to day it is not meny cables and if you have a rgb fan hub like i have it just makes it another 6-10 min so with some room for error you look at 20 min to conect a psu cant belive this is number 4 on prisjakt/pricerunner and is the psu in mounted o nthe side like that stops air flow. When you had all that cables it reminded me of 10-20 years ago 4 sata 3 gpu now days what do you have one to the fan hub 2 to gpu one to mb and m2 is on the mb already 2 to the cpu not meny cables now days with only one gpu and 2 m2 drives that cost nothing to day
and some for the front p O-o
Man the cables are not even sleeved, good luck finding such short aftermarket cables.... really disappointed at that price....
Don't worry about content, here's Leo pulling a stupid face on the thumbnail.
A real dumb idea just isnt needed.
Its trying to fix a problem that dont exist.
Because the world revolves around you....
I would rather buy a PSU that works in unconventional layouts and not just in ATX towers.
It's a good idea, but we'll need better quality cables. These are pretty ugly.
Where the hell is the RGB!!!!!!!!!!! LOL If Seasonic was RGB I would like, no RGB don't like!!!!!!
Any design that is adding more potential fail points is bad.
How many 24 pin now.
Not one not two but three.
Sounds like you made up your mind before even beginning the review. We want an objective review not a subjective one
Looks ok, but too much crap. Takes up too much space, And would cost more.
FFS man you are not a toddler, enough with the ridiculous thumbnails. This is beneath you.
Hated it! Looks like a brick.
Emmmmm. No. What a mess
Seems pointless.
Stupid idea for me sorry
Absolutely pointless.