At least she had a personality. She was probably raised in the lap of luxury was allowed to share her opinions. No matter how she ended, it seems as if she stood her ground till the end.
The marriage among the royals was based on the politics. I think the Emperor Shunzhi was a spoiled brat. He should behave better toward his official wives, not direct things for his own satisfaction.
It seems most of the empresses in Qing dynasty didn't have smoothly live in the forbidden city 😅 I feel like there's some curse around the six palaces.
The empress was chosen for other reasons (generally political) than love. And most women go insane when they don’t receive the affection not to mention the expectations of the role of the empress itself.
I really enjoyed this video Bing, I do understand the emperor compatibility is something you can’t force. And when you hate someone it’s all consuming.
Most marriages with the emperors were mainly arranged for political reasons. The rest ere just beautiful women to fill his fancy. It must be terrible to be born as women in those days, even to be in the harem. Even in early communism in the 1 child policy, most girl babies were killed so they could try next, for a son. Thank God for equality for women these days.
Shunzhi sounds kinda nuts I have a feeling he wasn't a decent husband towards her and she refuse to stand down and wouldn't tolerate any bs. But that's just by personal view who knows what happen behind the scenes.
interesting bit super sad history, I believe is one of the biggest Qing mysteries, Sunzhi didin't use the head properly, ok maybe they were not compatible but you can't treat a person like that just because... but we'll whe have seen that wing emperors were not the best husbands..... . I will love to know what happened to her thank you for this video I hope you can find some more information about it in the future , are there some theories or other none proven clues ?
🤔 This Story sound nearly the Story of Duchess Elisabeth Christine of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel-Bevern wife of Frederick the Great. She was his unloved too, but not so hate extremly. After his Father past away, Frederick living far away from her in Castle Sanssouci. He didn't like her because, like Shunzhi, he had to marry her. Frederick remained married but does not continue this marriage. ( You what i mean). By Shunzhi what it the same i thing, if he hate all what remember him on Dorgon. And a wife she gave him alway´s Contra ( so we say in Germany). But what is if Erdeni Bumda don´t want the same to be become his Wife/Empress 😶🌫and was happy to be free and got a happy life outside from the forbitten City.😏
@@ancientchinesehistorychannel Thanks Bing. In general, I understand 60-70% of what they’re saying. Without the English subs, this will force me to focus more rather than playing on my phone at the same time 😅
Hi Bing! You always put pictures from Chinese drama of the topic you are talking about. Please make a video on Chinese Ancient drama or series which we can watch, whose pictures you put in so many videos of yours. Thanks
Shunzhi was China's Henry the 8th lol. At least she came out of it with her head on tight. What movie/drama are these stills from? I would love to watch it.
If some sources claims were true about Erdeni Bumba did had a son with the Shunzhi Emperor when she was demoted to consort and later left the Forbidden City, it may be the best for her happy ending.
Bing, why do you think Emperor Shunzhi demoted Borjigit Empress with honorary name 静 ("quiet")? Do you think it was to mock her because she would always put up fights against him?
No there are not Koreans, none Chinese, Mongolians but still part of modern China.Called Inner Mongolia.Manchu are None Chinese who ruled China over 300 years.
I wonder what was behind Shunzhi's thinking when he gave the Empress the title of "Jing" when she got demoted to consort? I have a feeling the title didn't have any good meaning to it.
jing means quiet, she was too spoiled , loud, manipulative and insane. So the emperor just wanted her to be quiet and shut up like other “normal” girl.
At least she had a personality. She was probably raised in the lap of luxury was allowed to share her opinions. No matter how she ended, it seems as if she stood her ground till the end.
The marriage among the royals was based on the politics. I think the Emperor Shunzhi was a spoiled brat. He should behave better toward his official wives, not direct things for his own satisfaction.
It seems most of the empresses in Qing dynasty didn't have smoothly live in the forbidden city 😅 I feel like there's some curse around the six palaces.
Maybe that’s because forbidden city was built by last dynasty and Manchu took it by war.
The empress was chosen for other reasons (generally political) than love. And most women go insane when they don’t receive the affection not to mention the expectations of the role of the empress itself.
That was interesting but sad again. I think her body was sent back to her family. Perhaps they even provided for her. At least I hope so
I think the Empress Dowager was her aunt and the succeeding Empress was her niece. Maybe they provided for her if she was still in the capital.
I believe the demoted empress didn't starve to death like what happen to Empress Alute.
I really enjoyed this video Bing, I do understand the emperor compatibility is something you can’t force. And when you hate someone it’s all consuming.
Great video. I don't know if you have done this before but can you do a video on the power that the eunuchs held in the imperial palace.
Most marriages with the emperors were mainly arranged for political reasons. The rest ere just beautiful women to fill his fancy. It must be terrible to be born as women in those days, even to be in the harem. Even in early communism in the 1 child policy, most girl babies were killed so they could try next, for a son. Thank God for equality for women these days.
Shunzhi sounds kinda nuts I have a feeling he wasn't a decent husband towards her and she refuse to stand down and wouldn't tolerate any bs. But that's just by personal view who knows what happen behind the scenes.
If you have chance to read the article Shunzhi written for his true love, consort Dong’E, you may go to a new world about “love “. 😭😭😭
Love watching your vids and learning more about the culture and their world view of things thanks bing 😀 x
😀So glad!
interesting bit super sad history, I believe is one of the biggest Qing mysteries, Sunzhi didin't use the head properly, ok maybe they were not compatible but you can't treat a person like that just because... but we'll whe have seen that wing emperors were not the best husbands..... . I will love to know what happened to her thank you for this video I hope you can find some more information about it in the future , are there some theories or other none proven clues ?
Well, he may use another "head" to think and act lmaol!
"I will demote you!"
"I dare you"
The empress and consorts were wives to the emperor, the difference is that only the empress has higher power over the consorts.
Thank you teacher for our lesson today ☺️🍑
You're welcome 😊
Thanks for update this kind of videos and we will support you to grow day by day.🥰🤗😇
Thank you so much 😀
Is there enough information on Dorgon to do a video on him and his mysterious death at the relatively young age of 38?
Yes.
🤔 This Story sound nearly the Story of Duchess Elisabeth Christine of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel-Bevern wife of Frederick the Great. She was his unloved too, but not so hate extremly.
After his Father past away, Frederick living far away from her in Castle Sanssouci. He didn't like her because, like Shunzhi, he had to marry her. Frederick remained married but does not continue this marriage. ( You what i mean).
By Shunzhi what it the same i thing, if he hate all what remember him on Dorgon. And a wife she gave him alway´s Contra ( so we say in Germany).
But what is if Erdeni Bumda don´t want the same to be become his Wife/Empress 😶🌫and was happy to be free and got a happy life outside from the forbitten City.😏
😀🥰👍Thank you for sharing this story.
Mhh das gute contra😅
Could someone please recommend (in order) a couple of dramas I should watch about the ShunZhi emperor?
I recommend 少年天子, but this TV seems don’t have English subtitles.😭
@@ancientchinesehistorychannel Thanks Bing. In general, I understand 60-70% of what they’re saying. Without the English subs, this will force me to focus more rather than playing on my phone at the same time 😅
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Hi Bing!
You always put pictures from Chinese drama of the topic you are talking about. Please make a video on Chinese Ancient drama or series which we can watch, whose pictures you put in so many videos of yours. Thanks
😀Sure I will
Shunzhi was China's Henry the 8th lol. At least she came out of it with her head on tight. What movie/drama are these stills from? I would love to watch it.
Story is similar to ulanara empress
These men dont like their wives arguing for sure
If some sources claims were true about Erdeni Bumba did had a son with the Shunzhi Emperor when she was demoted to consort and later left the Forbidden City, it may be the best for her happy ending.
i wonder if they took lovers. i mean they should if emperor took that many concubines' he cant handle.
Hello i really love your the pictures of the actors than you're using for videos, where they're from ?
How to explain the birth of those two children? Because she tried to kill the other pretty women, she didn't succeed.
Bing, why do you think Emperor Shunzhi demoted Borjigit Empress with honorary name 静 ("quiet")? Do you think it was to mock her because she would always put up fights against him?
Good point. 👍
Name of the TV series
ivory is pronounced as "I-ver-ree" - 3 syllables.
I want the name of the drama pls
少年天子
is Borjigit people now Korean?
No. They are still Chinese. When Qing ended, a part of Mongolia was independent from Chin. I think Borjigit stayed in China.
No there are not Koreans, none Chinese, Mongolians but still part of modern China.Called Inner Mongolia.Manchu are None Chinese who ruled China over 300 years.
@@ancientchinesehistorychannel they are not Chinese both Manchu and Borjigit.
@@ancientchinesehistorychannel mostly Han people's are Chinese
Borjigit people are now inner mongolians
Shunzhi was a spoiled brat.
Have you made a video about Dong e?
I wonder what was behind Shunzhi's thinking when he gave the Empress the title of "Jing" when she got demoted to consort? I have a feeling the title didn't have any good meaning to it.
jing means quiet, she was too spoiled , loud, manipulative and insane. So the emperor just wanted her to be quiet and shut up like other “normal” girl.
@@user-gj1kp9bm6o Thank you for explaining!😀
All that humiliation… I need to watch the drama to find out what happens to her. Lol
@@never4ever386 which drama is it?😬
@@lauri8696 少年天子 But unfortunately without English subs.
Enjoyed all the historical facts but your narration is to much to bear...sorry.
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@@ancientchinesehistorychannel I actually like your narration. Even if you mispronounce a few words, I still understand what you mean. Thank you.
Stop being a mean jerk. Teacher Bing does a fantastic job. I try to always thank teacher for our lesson today.