Hi Steve another excellent video keep up the good works , there are too many youtube photo channels showing their latest gifts from suppliers. yours is and has always been a refreshing change
Totally agree about that colour pano at 11:30 - excellent shot! The X-Pan is an iconic piece of kit but it's a 'one trick pony' - an awful lot of resources tied up in (mainly) one mode of shooting, committing you to panos. You showed that with a bit of thought and skill these results can be replicated and the equipment you had with you was so much more flexible
Love these images - but the one at 5:10 is really beautiful. I wish digital camera makers offered a 3:1 crop in their viewfinder to make it easier to preview the image.
Some incredible panoramas, Steve. The hardest part is composing in such an extreme format. I have never mastered it, but I keep trying. Thanks for sharing your fantastic day.
Great video -- I really liked seeing your efforts with this aspect ratio, and I always appreciate you talking through what you like / don't like about one of your images.
I like your crop at 4:20 and one earlier of another image. I do not know why it came to me, but your outing reminds me of the NatGeo photographers and what they endure to bring home the fantastic photos for the magazine. The reader/viewer does not see what went into bringing that image to them. You made a comment about that some time back which really points out the work a person must be willing to put in if something other than adequate photos is the goal. Fine video, Steve. Always a pleasure to watch and learn.
Commendable that you stuck with the panoramic format throughout the day. You can see the evidence of how your eye was adapting and acclimating to that aspect ratio as the day wore on. And nice to see that you got out with Robin.
What a Lovely Video Steve It must be up there with the very best you've ever done those Panoramics were brilliant the light was just there for you and boy did you do it justice, Superb, Colin.
2:51 It works for me. My eyes are drawn right where you’d expect and the composition is spot on. Maybe it’s my disassociation from the experience of the capture, but I like it all the same.
Great video, I think the images answer your questions with a BIG YES! The panoramas are brilliant, both from the 35mm film camera and the MFT digital, I would be happy with any on my wall!😀
Some superb images there Steve! Ive besn working on trying to master panos for a few years now, but it still alludes me! Creating depth in what feels like a narrow frame (height wise) is difficult, but your final few frames show how well it works! Thanks for your insights!
So many beautiful images! I think even the early ones had a lot going for them, but of course, your eye is the only one that matters, ultimately! Very inspiring though for all of us! Cheers!
Super images! I've done that, with film. I've never used or even borrowed a friend's Hasselblad, fearing it stops working! $$$$$! Digital is easier. It's happy to do, other formats! Result with modern fine grain film, more than adequate! The atmospheric conditions lead to superb images, with your great framing! The Darn phone rolls out panoramas like sausages! But prints can become, very narrow and l o n g! One has to FRAME! Bravo Steve!
A few years ago I started cropping my images to the 65:24 ratio andgot slightly obsessed with it for a while but I have now honed in my "shoot everything pano" phase for a more balanced approach. The session from the top of the hill you got some corking images, the combination of hill & mist is photographers dream methinks, well for me anyway. The image at 8:40 was fab, light on the foreground and those mountains in dark mood at the rear was perfect, then you showed your fave image of the day...no dark mood here but yea, it was a belter. Nice to see you in the mountains and sticking it out with the rain, rewarded with some cracking images. Atb Al. PS I couldn't decide if you had the ME Atlantic Blue or Majolica Blue on, looked like the one at ground level and the other high on the hill..lol.
Thanks Alan. I’ve always liked looking at other people’s panoramics but never committed any real time to doing them myself. I don’t typically like to mix aspect ratios hence cropping everything here to the 65:24 format.
Nice work and a lot of walking. I noticed at one point you had a great vista to shoot in one direction and not in the opposite side of the mountain, it reminds me of how different the view on a road is when you come from the opposite direction, often like a new road. Interesting aspect ratios to consider, I think we get too locked in to default ratios too often. Good work, thanks for the efforts, God bless!
Great pics. I've always thought that aspect ratio meant a specialist camera and never thought about just taking the pic for the panoramic aspect in the first place and cropping.
You got some cracking shots Steve. They are very different to mine and seeing them, I wish I had spent more time thinking about framing some shots for panos. Great day out.
Your videos are always very interesting to me. I like your panoramas in this video. You could make panoramas with your Bronica too by cropping. Kind regards from Sweden!
What a good collection of images. You really get the best of the scene with your landscape eye. Thx for sharing this with us. You definitely went well in selling back your xpan. Good concept but definitely fragile camera and you can do panorama without it, you just proves it here. Perhaps it could be good to show us panoramas with a 6x6 camera and your way of composing it. Perhaps for next video :).
Noticeable how you got in the panoramic groove the more you shot in that format, Steve. Intelligent cropping, too, that hasn't sacrificed quality. You've proved you don't need the X-Pan.
Tricky to make this crop work, but you got better as the video went on. The eye is constantly panning from side to side when viewing these wide images, so not as restful as the square, but it does work for some scenes. You clearly expend a lot of time and energy making these videos, but you obviously enjoy it as much as we enjoy watching them: thanks!
Do like the panoramic format Steve. Especially now I have started to make my own frames and not stuck to a given size. I particularly like the photos from the 6x12 back on the 5x4. Like the Mono @7.04 and 13.08. The colour @ 8.42 and 11.42. Cheers Diz
Interesting video and lovely images Steve. I have just started on a similar project . I use an Andriod phone with the magic viewfinder app because the ios verion isnt available my phone
Steve !! I just love your videos and sensible talk. Keep doing good work. Please consider making a mini video series about compositions (35 mm film may be) 🙏🏾. Love from India. Commenting before watching this video 😊 - Rahul Deshpande
Very good pano shots Steve. My favourite being the colour one of complete scene with land and mountains. Your doing wonderful photography without the Xpan. Oh sorry to ask but how can you be contacted? Recently bought Olympus OM2N for daughter, im going for the OM1N soon. We both shoot digital also. Got some questions and your about the only photographer who has good knowledge of 35mm film. I shot film many years ago, I feel some nostalgia and the sheer simplicity of shooting an SLR again a very relaxing slowed down experience in this crazy digital hectic world...
Lovely images. They would not look out of place in a fine art gallery. The panoramic crop works well indeed. Doubt you'd miss the XPan. I guess the moral of the story - you could carry 2 light and portable kits like the FE and the Olympus, enjoy yourselves and make wonderful images at the same time. As we get "younger", the good company and the lighter weight makes better sense. Again, thanks for the images, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Cheers and take care
Thank you. Being able to get to the right locations is more important than the camera I carry. I’d rather compromise on the frame size/negative than be too tired from lugging too much equipment.
I am a big fan of panoramas. I do a lot of those. Sometimes I overdo it and the only thing you could do with the finished output is put it in a hallway because I went too long
Beautiful work as usual Steve. You do not need een xpan do make beautiful work. And why don't shoot with a 4x5 and a 120mm film back to have more resolution in panomaric form.
Yes I can follow that. But for "speciall" occasions. I do remember one of your videos of a vertical shot with the 6*12 back. Really beautiful woodland scene with a really old lens.
Definitely prefer my stitches, over crops. Adding detail, rather than removing it. Also making use of tighter lenses, for stitched wider images, rather than wider lenses for cropped tighter images. Giving me all the characteristics of those lenses, that I prefer.
The Rollei 80s has a very strong red sensitivity and will give quite bright highlights in strong sunshine. I’ve used it in the past for true infrared images with a 720nm filter but then your effective speed is only EI 1, so expect very long exposures!
Love panos, and yes you should have kept the xpan lol. But still you made great images with what you have and that's the important thing. Last two images just spot on.
really nice photos there steve i picked up a old reader's digest 35mm panoramic camera from a charity shop for £2 still unopened in panoramic mode 2 bits of plastic move over the top and bottom of the 35mm film so not a true pano still fun to use and only cost £2.
It’s reminded me that I have a 25ASA 120 film I bought to use with a vintage pseudo TLR camera that only has 1/30sec. Need plenty of light and my tripod. Some great shots there man. Intrigued by the blue tube over your shoulder🤔 Does it link to your oxygen tank?!🤣👍📸
It did work. But I found the digital (color) images more appealing. I think I'll try the "cropping" method for panoramics with the 80 MP pixel-shift mode of my Pen F - might give some good results without the hassle of stitching afterwards. I should add some pano-frames to my Artist's Viewfinder app …
@@SteveONions The Olympus prime lenses are up to it (they are limited to their highest non-diffracting aperture when the camera is in high-res mode; or maybe generally to f/8, as I have tested this only with the 30 mm macro so far, and this lens can handle the 80 MB resolution without "missing a beat" ;-)).
I hear all the time that cropping in to produce panoramas costs resolution, but i don't think it is true. One pretty much always crops on the short dimension for a panorama, which means you can print the long dimension to the same size as without crop. The way I think of it, the long dimension of the film or sensor determines how wide you can print, while the crop on the short dimension determines the aspect ratio.
Tuns Geoff, I should have been a bit clearer. I was referring to quality in comparison to the 65mm horizontal dimension from the XPan, not so much the vertical crop from 35mm. What I have also found to be true is that panoramic images are usually printed larger than an equivalent conventional aspect ratio, Eg. I have made a lot of 36” wide Pano’s but rarely go that big with 3:2 or 4:3.
@SteveONions Thanks Steve. That explanation makes sense. The simplistic explanation that "cropping to produce a panorama reduces resolution" or is "throwing away megapixels" and so one needs a high megapixel camera is also often heard on internet forums.
Can't see a rainbow in a photograph without a little voice muttering "Photoshop?" - but they certainly give a lift to the B-roll, underlining the way the day improved. I'd probably have spent the afternoon in a cafe - you pressed on and were rewarded with some excellent images. Were you printing the full width of the negative or were you REALLY cropping down?
In this situation I was printing the full width of the negative and therefore no loss of quality. The need for a slower film was more to compensate for the fact that I usually print panoramics larger than an uncropped shot.
Steve, which part of the Lake District is this ? Is the Coniston old man route ? I am planning to cover the Lake District next week and would like to take in some of the views of this video.
Hi Steve, have you tried shooting panoramas with your bronica? All you need is a cheap canister adapter from eBay and (optimally) a 220 back to get around 20 frames per roll of 135.
Steve, another quick question if I may. Now in my dotage, I'm looking to shave a few pounds from my current setup and would be interested in your thoughts re. your Rexi L tripod. I've tracked down a tidy, used example and intend pairing it with a Nikon F2 / FE and a couple of short prime lenses. Any nuggets of wisdom will be gratefully received. Many thanks.
For visual goodness I always crop to a hill going up diagonally out of the frame rather than stopping the frame on a hill going down.(4.01) anyway a nice image.
Of course do as You like :) :) I NEVER change the aspect ratio, from full sensor file...... I have seen many of My buddies change aspect ratio n when they get it on the computer they are unhappy because of the in camera CROP!!!!!!! You have more leeway for creative cropping n You simply throw away the rest of the pixels anyway... Of course do as You like......... :) :) :)
It almost sounds like you’re trying to force yourself to like the panoramic format 🤔. I always try and teach my young, mountain climbing photographer friends 😉, let the scene determine the format, not the camera. Take care mate.
It's a tricky format to master, but when it works it really works. Some of these were right on the money.
Thank you 👍
Hi Steve another excellent video keep up the good works , there are too many youtube photo channels showing their latest gifts from suppliers. yours is and has always been a refreshing change
Thanks David 👍
The final images especially remind me greatly of the Dutch landscape painters. Timeless, beautiful images that 'speak' the more they're viewed.
some of the best photographs i have ever seen, thank you as always Steve
Lovely photos. Interesting to watch and listen to your process as you go along. Enjoyable as always.
Glad you enjoyed it Paul.
Totally agree about that colour pano at 11:30 - excellent shot! The X-Pan is an iconic piece of kit but it's a 'one trick pony' - an awful lot of resources tied up in (mainly) one mode of shooting, committing you to panos. You showed that with a bit of thought and skill these results can be replicated and the equipment you had with you was so much more flexible
Thanks Terry, I doubt I’ll miss the XPan.
Fab images Steve, thanks for the video.
Glad you enjoyed it Chris.
You and Robin are complimentary You Tubers. Well done
Thank you so much 😀
Love these images - but the one at 5:10 is really beautiful. I wish digital camera makers offered a 3:1 crop in their viewfinder to make it easier to preview the image.
I’d also like more in camera aspect ratios, it can’t be that hard to do.
Some incredible panoramas, Steve. The hardest part is composing in such an extreme format. I have never mastered it, but I keep trying. Thanks for sharing your fantastic day.
Thanks David, I do find it a bit extreme for most situations.
Great panoramics Steve. Good to see the Nikon FE having an outing and with the trusty angle finder too.
Thanks Simon, I’m quite pleased how they turned out, might be worth getting one of the 90’s Nikons with the Panoramic switch.
Your most beautiful video.
Wow, thank you
Great video -- I really liked seeing your efforts with this aspect ratio, and I always appreciate you talking through what you like / don't like about one of your images.
Thanks Adam.
Your crops are outstanding, just like your pictures!!!!
Glad you like them Stanley.
beautiful
Interesting and inspiring.
Thank you.
I like your crop at 4:20 and one earlier of another image. I do not know why it came to me, but your outing reminds me of the NatGeo photographers and what they endure to bring home the fantastic photos for the magazine. The reader/viewer does not see what went into bringing that image to them. You made a comment about that some time back which really points out the work a person must be willing to put in if something other than adequate photos is the goal. Fine video, Steve. Always a pleasure to watch and learn.
Thanks James. It is often challenging to get into the right place at the right time to get these images, luck does play a part too.
Some amazing photos. I pause the video on several occasions.
Awesome, thank you!
Great video, Steve. Thanks. The original crop at 4:00 was perfect for me.
Glad you liked it 👍
Splendid you made it work 🎉
Thank you.
Commendable that you stuck with the panoramic format throughout the day. You can see the evidence of how your eye was adapting and acclimating to that aspect ratio as the day wore on. And nice to see that you got out with Robin.
I definitely improved but I’ll admit I was tempted to shoot a few that needed the native aspect ratio of the film/sensor.
You showed admirable discipline. I suspect that this was a day where your Artist's Viewfinder was particularly useful.
What a Lovely Video Steve It must be up there with the very best you've ever done those Panoramics were brilliant the light was just there for you and boy did you do it justice, Superb, Colin.
Glad you enjoyed it Colin.
What a great day out Stéve. Lovely image at 9.40 with the soft and limited palette. Also like the two monos, especially the first one.
Glad you enjoyed it 🙂
Sir fine work wonderful art.keep clicking.
Thank you so much 😀
That big color pano was stunning! Wow! ...and I thought that was Robin with you. 🙂
Thank you 🙂
Amazing stuff, especially the last couple of images!
Glad you enjoyed it
2:51 It works for me. My eyes are drawn right where you’d expect and the composition is spot on. Maybe it’s my disassociation from the experience of the capture, but I like it all the same.
Thank you 🙂
Great video, I think the images answer your questions with a BIG YES! The panoramas are brilliant, both from the 35mm film camera and the MFT digital, I would be happy with any on my wall!😀
Glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing images!
Many thanks!
You can almost see the clouds moving on that b/w image! Lovely
Thanks Ian.
Some superb images there Steve! Ive besn working on trying to master panos for a few years now, but it still alludes me! Creating depth in what feels like a narrow frame (height wise) is difficult, but your final few frames show how well it works! Thanks for your insights!
It is a challenge to get that front to back feeling but I was fortunate to have such a great location with really long, clear views.
Nice shots steve.👌
Thanks 👍
11:40 reminds me of the American West at its best. Fine pano.
So many beautiful images! I think even the early ones had a lot going for them, but of course, your eye is the only one that matters, ultimately! Very inspiring though for all of us! Cheers!
Thanks Robert 👍
Super images! I've done that, with film. I've never used or even borrowed a friend's Hasselblad, fearing it stops working! $$$$$! Digital is easier. It's happy to do, other formats! Result with modern fine grain film, more than adequate! The atmospheric conditions lead to superb images, with your great framing! The Darn phone rolls out panoramas like sausages! But prints can become, very narrow and l o n g! One has to FRAME! Bravo Steve!
Thanks Jason, I am also very impressed with Panoramics made from modern smartphones, so easy too!
A few years ago I started cropping my images to the 65:24 ratio andgot slightly obsessed with it for a while but I have now honed in my "shoot everything pano" phase for a more balanced approach. The session from the top of the hill you got some corking images, the combination of hill & mist is photographers dream methinks, well for me anyway. The image at 8:40 was fab, light on the foreground and those mountains in dark mood at the rear was perfect, then you showed your fave image of the day...no dark mood here but yea, it was a belter. Nice to see you in the mountains and sticking it out with the rain, rewarded with some cracking images. Atb Al. PS I couldn't decide if you had the ME Atlantic Blue or Majolica Blue on, looked like the one at ground level and the other high on the hill..lol.
Thanks Alan. I’ve always liked looking at other people’s panoramics but never committed any real time to doing them myself. I don’t typically like to mix aspect ratios hence cropping everything here to the 65:24 format.
Beautiful photographs!
Glad you like them!
lovely images!
Many thanks!
Nice work and a lot of walking. I noticed at one point you had a great vista to shoot in one direction and not in the opposite side of the mountain, it reminds me of how different the view on a road is when you come from the opposite direction, often like a new road. Interesting aspect ratios to consider, I think we get too locked in to default ratios too often.
Good work, thanks for the efforts, God bless!
Thanks John, there are full 360 degree views up there, never boring.
Great pics. I've always thought that aspect ratio meant a specialist camera and never thought about just taking the pic for the panoramic aspect in the first place and cropping.
It’s worth a go, just wish the manufacturers all offered a native 24:65 in-camera crop.
That is really nice at 8:40.
You got some cracking shots Steve. They are very different to mine and seeing them, I wish I had spent more time thinking about framing some shots for panos. Great day out.
Thanks Robin. It was hard to stick to that aspect ratio I’ll be honest.
😄Фотографии очень классные!!! 👍
Thank you 🙂
Have an old Nikon f60 with the panorama switch on the bottom just a different aspect ratio on the negative. Interesting little add on.
It is a handy little add on, I think a few mid 90’s models offered it.
Your videos are always very interesting to me. I like your panoramas in this video. You could make panoramas with your Bronica too by cropping. Kind regards from Sweden!
Very true, I have a small cardboard mask that I can drop into the Bronica’s viewfinder.
What a good collection of images. You really get the best of the scene with your landscape eye. Thx for sharing this with us. You definitely went well in selling back your xpan. Good concept but definitely fragile camera and you can do panorama without it, you just proves it here. Perhaps it could be good to show us panoramas with a 6x6 camera and your way of composing it. Perhaps for next video :).
I’ve done some cropping in the past from 6x6 and it works very well, not too far off the Xpan in terms of quality.
Stunning photography. Shame the XPan didn’t work out for you.
Oh well, I tried it and at least I no longer lust after one 😊
@@SteveONions TBH, it's never been my cup of tea either. I think the 35mm is already too wide, never mind an X-Pan
Noticeable how you got in the panoramic groove the more you shot in that format, Steve. Intelligent cropping, too, that hasn't sacrificed quality. You've proved you don't need the X-Pan.
Thanks Graham.
Tricky to make this crop work, but you got better as the video went on. The eye is constantly panning from side to side when viewing these wide images, so not as restful as the square, but it does work for some scenes. You clearly expend a lot of time and energy making these videos, but you obviously enjoy it as much as we enjoy watching them: thanks!
I’m glad you enjoy the videos David, and yes, they do take a fair bit of effort to put together 🙂
Years ago I took panoramic photographs with an Canon TS35 tilt-and-shift lens. With shifting to the left and right you could get quite good results.
Another good option 👍
I like your photographs.
Thanks Richard.
Do like the panoramic format Steve. Especially now I have started to make my own frames and not stuck to a given size. I particularly like the photos from the 6x12 back on the 5x4. Like the Mono @7.04 and 13.08. The colour @ 8.42 and 11.42.
Cheers
Diz
Thanks Diz. I also like the 6x12 format in 4x5, just wish it was more portable!
Interesting video and lovely images Steve. I have just started on a similar project . I use an Andriod phone with the magic viewfinder app because the ios verion isnt available my phone
Hope it goes well Paul, smartphones are so versatile.
OK. I'm sold. And speaking of "sold," when can I buy the color pano? It is special. Thank you as always.
😊
Steve !! I just love your videos and sensible talk. Keep doing good work. Please consider making a mini video series about compositions (35 mm film may be) 🙏🏾. Love from India.
Commenting before watching this video 😊
- Rahul Deshpande
I’m glad you enjoy the videos Rahul.
Very good pano shots Steve. My favourite being the colour one of complete scene with land and mountains. Your doing wonderful photography without the Xpan. Oh sorry to ask but how can you be contacted? Recently bought Olympus OM2N for daughter, im going for the OM1N soon. We both shoot digital also. Got some questions and your about the only photographer who has good knowledge of 35mm film. I shot film many years ago, I feel some nostalgia and the sheer simplicity of shooting an SLR again a very relaxing slowed down experience in this crazy digital hectic world...
Thank you. If you want to reach me directly the address is youtube@steveonions.co.uk
Lovely images. They would not look out of place in a fine art gallery. The panoramic crop works well indeed. Doubt you'd miss the XPan. I guess the moral of the story - you could carry 2 light and portable kits like the FE and the Olympus, enjoy yourselves and make wonderful images at the same time. As we get "younger", the good company and the lighter weight makes better sense. Again, thanks for the images, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Cheers and take care
Thank you. Being able to get to the right locations is more important than the camera I carry. I’d rather compromise on the frame size/negative than be too tired from lugging too much equipment.
I am a big fan of panoramas. I do a lot of those. Sometimes I overdo it and the only thing you could do with the finished output is put it in a hallway because I went too long
I've got a few panoramics in my house, probably because it's a cottage and the ceilings are very low.
I love the panoramas! Keep trying, I know you’ll strike inspiration soon.
They are freaking perfect! To hell with 6x17 Large format!
Perhaps one day (but I feel the call of 1:1 again) 😀
Beautiful work as usual Steve. You do not need een xpan do make beautiful work.
And why don't shoot with a 4x5 and a 120mm film back to have more resolution in panomaric form.
Thanks Ruud. I have a 6x12 back for the 4x5 but that camera is impractical for most of my shoots.
Yes I can follow that. But for "speciall" occasions. I do remember one of your videos of a vertical shot with the 6*12 back. Really beautiful woodland scene with a really old lens.
Definitely prefer my stitches, over crops. Adding detail, rather than removing it. Also making use of tighter lenses, for stitched wider images, rather than wider lenses for cropped tighter images. Giving me all the characteristics of those lenses, that I prefer.
At 11:30 and in another place earlier you say, black and white, but I see the characteristics of infrared. Am I wrong as to the film you used?
The Rollei 80s has a very strong red sensitivity and will give quite bright highlights in strong sunshine. I’ve used it in the past for true infrared images with a 720nm filter but then your effective speed is only EI 1, so expect very long exposures!
@@SteveONions Thank you, Steve.
id take the fence print any day.
Love panos, and yes you should have kept the xpan lol. But still you made great images with what you have and that's the important thing. Last two images just spot on.
Thanks Randy, I couldn't take the strain of thinking about the XPan's potentially short life.
Don’ t think you will miss Xpan 😂👍
No other photographers a bonus!
Thanks Stuart.
@@SteveONions HassiePan is NOT to be missed. It it malfunctions, it's a display brick..
really nice photos there steve i picked up a old reader's digest 35mm panoramic camera from a charity shop for £2 still unopened in panoramic mode 2 bits of plastic move over the top and bottom of the 35mm film so not a true pano still fun to use and only cost £2.
Nice one, I bet it will make some interesting shots 👍
I love 21:9 so this was a 'must watch' - top stuff!
Thanks Steven.
It’s reminded me that I have a 25ASA 120 film I bought to use with a vintage pseudo TLR camera that only has 1/30sec. Need plenty of light and my tripod. Some great shots there man. Intrigued by the blue tube over your shoulder🤔 Does it link to your oxygen tank?!🤣👍📸
😀
It did work. But I found the digital (color) images more appealing. I think I'll try the "cropping" method for panoramics with the 80 MP pixel-shift mode of my Pen F - might give some good results without the hassle of stitching afterwards. I should add some pano-frames to my Artist's Viewfinder app …
The additional resolution can definitely help providing the lens is up to it.
@@SteveONions The Olympus prime lenses are up to it (they are limited to their highest non-diffracting aperture when the camera is in high-res mode; or maybe generally to f/8, as I have tested this only with the 30 mm macro so far, and this lens can handle the 80 MB resolution without "missing a beat" ;-)).
I hear all the time that cropping in to produce panoramas costs resolution, but i don't think it is true. One pretty much always crops on the short dimension for a panorama, which means you can print the long dimension to the same size as without crop. The way I think of it, the long dimension of the film or sensor determines how wide you can print, while the crop on the short dimension determines the aspect ratio.
Tuns Geoff, I should have been a bit clearer. I was referring to quality in comparison to the 65mm horizontal dimension from the XPan, not so much the vertical crop from 35mm.
What I have also found to be true is that panoramic images are usually printed larger than an equivalent conventional aspect ratio, Eg. I have made a lot of 36” wide Pano’s but rarely go that big with 3:2 or 4:3.
@SteveONions Thanks Steve. That explanation makes sense. The simplistic explanation that "cropping to produce a panorama reduces resolution" or is "throwing away megapixels" and so one needs a high megapixel camera is also often heard on internet forums.
Can't see a rainbow in a photograph without a little voice muttering "Photoshop?" - but they certainly give a lift to the B-roll, underlining the way the day improved. I'd probably have spent the afternoon in a cafe - you pressed on and were rewarded with some excellent images.
Were you printing the full width of the negative or were you REALLY cropping down?
In this situation I was printing the full width of the negative and therefore no loss of quality. The need for a slower film was more to compensate for the fact that I usually print panoramics larger than an uncropped shot.
Steve, which part of the Lake District is this ? Is the Coniston old man route ? I am planning to cover the Lake District next week and would like to take in some of the views of this video.
The location is Holme Fell, easy to access from either Yew Tree Tarn or the quarry Road up from coniston.
Hi Steve, have you tried shooting panoramas with your bronica? All you need is a cheap canister adapter from eBay and (optimally) a 220 back to get around 20 frames per roll of 135.
I’ve masked off the viewfinder before and just used 120 film. I did have the standard 135 back many years ago but not the super expensive 135W.
Hi Steve. How do you meter? In camera?
I use the built in meters on 35mm and digital cameras. For manual cameras like the Bronica and old folders I use a Sekonic spot meter.
Did you wind up in eachother's frame often? :-)
Occasionally yes!
Steve, another quick question if I may. Now in my dotage, I'm looking to shave a few pounds from my current setup and would be interested in your thoughts re. your Rexi L tripod. I've tracked down a tidy, used example and intend pairing it with a Nikon F2 / FE and a couple of short prime lenses. Any nuggets of wisdom will be gratefully received. Many thanks.
I’d get a Rexi L (or the newer almost identical 655), very light and rigid, not to mention compact when collapsed.
@SteveONions Thanks again, Steve. Purchased. 👍🏻
Tell me, what is the name of the compact tripod you use in this video?
It is the Velbon Ultra Luxi model.
@@SteveONions Thanks
For visual goodness I always crop to a hill going up diagonally out of the frame rather than stopping the frame on a hill going down.(4.01) anyway a nice image.
Thanks Ian.
Of course do as You like :) :) I NEVER change the aspect ratio, from full sensor file...... I have seen many of My buddies change aspect ratio n when they get it on the computer they are unhappy because of the in camera CROP!!!!!!! You have more leeway for creative cropping n You simply throw away the rest of the pixels anyway... Of course do as You like......... :) :) :)
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It almost sounds like you’re trying to force yourself to like the panoramic format 🤔. I always try and teach my young, mountain climbing photographer friends 😉, let the scene determine the format, not the camera. Take care mate.
Thank you.
They maybe very pleasant images but panoramic they are not. They are just very narrow crops.
Panoramic in the vernacular 😀
Not a format for me, Steve - viewing such images make me feel like I'm watching a tennis match from the umpire's seat.
I now what you mean Ray.