Lagging a Pay-To-Win Minecraft Server with 5000 Minecarts - Part 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- Hey ya'll! Today, we lag a Pay-to-win Minecraft server using 5000 Minecarts! This server sells crate keys, 200 dollar ranks, and has over 2000 players, making Pay-to-win on it especially damaging, as it ruins gameplay and makes the game totally unfair to play on!
This was recorded more than a year ago at this point, but due to data loss, I lost all the video and the motivation to upload anything. It's why I slowed down so much. But apparently, an old external drive that I gave to relatives was never even used by them and just sat in a closet, so I got it back, used data recovery software, and voila, we're back.
I chose to upload it now because it's basically just as P2W as when I first joined it, it only has removed unbans litterally nothing else that stands out. Their staff tell people that the video is from 2020 (December btw) and say that it's outdated, even though it's only the footage that is that old. The webstore is from when this video was edited, and the server is still 90% as P2W as when I originally filmed it.
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To use Minecraft music, I gotta credit C418, so credit to him lol
Animations by 2x2, very epic person: / wertsworld
The lag machine was by Blocks_n_more, but he didn't want any credit for socials so uh, credit to him I guess?
What, am I supposed to do the new "cool" thing that all the creators do here, which is keyword spam irrelevant trash at the bottom of the description? Heck no that's lame and stupid lol.
Part 2 is out!
Hey was just in a server someone created in survival... Had a well hidden chest an the admin and friends are using commands and admin privileges to destroy peoples stuff and take everyones hard work. My base was active for days and no one would have found it without admin privileges. Pretty much hid behind "well its survival" I am writing to see if you would like the opportunity to lag there server.
@@AllThingsRusty That's not p2w, that's literally abuse of admin perms. I think The Horizon has better things to do than to take down a non-p2w server...
Third…? Als no rush
I thought you were dead or something
yaaaassss
I love how they went “Someone’s finally lagging this s**thole?” like they’re residents of a dystopian city that you’re saving them from
"Welcome! Welcome to city 17... You have chosen or been chosen to realocate to one of the finnest remaining urban centers in the world"
DooqiePC said that. absolute chad
my mind immediately went to the overwatch mercy descending gif while reading this
Detroid
that reminds me of sonic cd, which you need to save the future, here horizon saves the people from BUYING SOME F*KING UNMATERIAL STUFF (appreciate this) !!!!!!!!!!!!
I think when you can pay to be unbanned, it’s a pretty good indication of how much the host really cares…
**Joke about the life in USA**
@@chaosinsurgency4197 yes
@@chaosinsurgency4197tf whats scpball?????????????
this guys also a filthy hacker and thats who your siding with. whats wrong with you
@@tristinsmith1220 if you can pay to break the game, then hacking really isn't game breaking anymore.
shoutout to the people in chat who:
- waited 2 minutes to break a tree
- waited 5 minutes to pick up items (that didn't despawn because that's based on ticks)
- waited 40 minutes to open a chest
Don't forget that one idiot who spent 2 weeks trying to place 5000 minecarts smh my head
@@The_Horizon he forgor :skull:
Dont forget the guy that also has 440 fps and couldnt open a furnace
and the guy who dropped his op shovel and couldn’t get it back
İ waited 20 seconds lol
All of his videos play out like heist movies. Establish a base of operations, make a plan, lay the ground work collecting resources, and finally assemble the team and pull it off. And it’s always followed by the sequel where they hit the mark again in a new way. I love it.
How does this comment have no replies
@@lamppost101 no replies
'Purchase an unban or appeal"
Bro, these guys deserve anything that's coming to them
You cant hate on someone for chasing a bag
Maybe if people didn’t hack…
Imagine he bought an unban and then lagged the server again
The unban part I get but why the fuck would I buy a chance to be back on the server? Lol
@@matthewmorrison3745 maybe the stuff you had is saved and worth some money? Idk playing in these servers are worthless
“I cut a tree down 2 minutes ago and still haven’t gotten the wood.”
I’m crying
I can just imagine them standing there waiting for their wood
broo that would be so funny yet annoying
"THESE BLOCKS WON'T BREAK EVEN WHEN I R@P3 THEM WITH A DIAMOND PICKAXE!" -really annoyed guy in the chat, loved that moment XD
It's ok, a lot of guys struggle to get wood as they get older.
@@piogre LOL
I love how the whole mod team collectively went with the ‘it’s not a lag machine guys it’s technical issues’ until they finally did something about it
chances are they heard it from the next guy up the chain, all the way to a superadmin who guessed
Lol
@@The_Horizon the guys probably bough there admin and no one knew what to do XD
@@aoki6332 "Well really I just bought admin at this super popular minecraft server to ban people for slight offenses ,get mad when someone disagrees with me, have no fucking clue what to do in what situations and be dumb as fuck, and most importantly abuse my power."
-Thomas Dipshit, Pay to Admin
@@oof8493 Language.
i fell victim to a server like this-- i have horrible compulsive spending tendencies which are exacerbated by a personality disorder i have, and these kinds of servers prey on that compulsion so bad. i joined the cosmic smp server and not even ten minutes in i had already spent money. i must have spent over $500 in the couple weeks i played. horrible. i'm so ashamed of it.
watching this video is incredibly cathartic and makes me feel better. you're doing good work.
Hope your doin we'll! :)
If you can, you should probably get some help for that compulsive spending.
@@tetraxis3011 I'm in therapy now, and it's been helping a lot. The urges are still there, but I'm learning healthy ways to redirect them into actions that help relieve the urge without actually spending money! It's been very helpful, to say the least. And relieving.
@@goldendepths Good for you man, glad to know you’re getting better.
@@goldendepths Glad to hear it ❤ Good for you!!
I used to play this server daily. The staff team is severely abusive and they give positions to people they know, despite the fact that the moderators they promote have been caught abusing players (including me and one of my friends). the admins said there was "insufficient evidence" despite us having screenshots, chat logs, and recordings of it all happening. They even threatened to ban us for falsely accusing staff. I'm glad you took down this server, seriously.
Oh fr I used to play there and my god there used to be a Manager who I shit you not was only made manager because she was banging the owner irl she once hacked on skyblock on an alt and a low ranking staff member saw the hacking banned the alt then the manager hops back on her Manager account bans the mod for doing his job and unban her alt hence to say this incident was swept under the carpet basically to put it bluntly if you metaphorically sucked off the owner you could get high ranking staff very scummy server there was some good people but for whatever reason probably money kept working in that shit hole
@@kurtpunchesthings2411
They are literally profitting off players... why wouldn't they profit from staff positions as well?
YOOOOOOO WSTP
I've been streaming Minecraft for 8 hours straight now. Come say hi and I'll subscribe and put a sign with your name on it in my world
Feel like joining this server and building another Horizon Rollercoaster.
I love how the fact that the lag machine was so powerful, proved to people that it wasn't a lag machine because the tps wasn't dropping. Absolutely incredible.
Litterally lmao
The lag was too much to handle, even the tps gave up and didn't update anymore lol, this just proves to you that horizon's lag machines are insane
At first I was thinking he could've tried to hide the machine a bit by building some stuff around the machine but apparently the staff was so incompetent he didn't even needed to do this... lol
@@filamentlink TPS before lag machine: I wanna update
after lag machine: WELL I DONT WANNA DO IT ANYMORE
I wouldn't be surprised if the machine was still there if he gets on with a different account, considering how much the admins didn't care
It would have been cool to split the lag machine into 3 locations. That way the staff would think they won after removing one of the machines, and bam, two more enter, making the lag even worse.
Yeah but that means making 15k minecarts if they want it to be as effective as the first (or mining about 45k ingots.) Not a fun task
There's a part 2 coming dude......
Maybe! MAYBE! HAHHAAHAH GENIUS H please
"It's even funnier the third time!"
Put a signs on the three lag machine, 1, 2 and 4 to keep them hunting for number 3 (which doesn’t exist)
You’d prolly need lots of alts and/or friends
This is how the Revolution will be fought: not with fire and blood, but with lag and minecarts.
The chat went from "Hey its lagging" to "This is the most agonizing pain I have felt, my every nerve is aflame"
well, when you have 200 seconds to wait until the next server tick, you've got a lot of time to type out chat messages
pretty much slow, mental deterioration
@@The_Horizon i love waching kids having mental breakdown, thanks you please keep torturing them
@@The_Horizon disintegration of brain particles
Wait if bluestacks is an Android emulator does that mean you an apple emulator
Man, I couldn't help but laugh at the fact that people actually said "Wow, someone is finally lagging this shithole?" AND KNEW INTRINSICALLY WHO IT WAS THAT WAS DOING IT AND CHEERING YOU ON, EVEN OFFERING TO HELP. THAT IS HOW YOU KNOW YOU'VE MADE IT MY BOY
Yes sir
its not even pay2win now its actually been not p2w for like a good year
I got the 666th like.
i got the 856 like
i got the 1761st like
when the world needed him most, he came back stronger
you just won the most original comment 2022 award, please send your address and the time when nobody is home to proceed.
@@PitersChannel some one said it before him, It's that unoriginal
Stando Powah!
@@The_Horizon yes!
@@The_Horizon Je ben echt underrated broer...
Translate ❤
Keep it up man
I cant stop laughing how someone said “this is the worst thing ever” and the war crime explanation slowly faded in for a sec
Time stamp please
@@crispinravlin4256I’ll watch the vid again and see if I can find it but it’s during the actual lag part
@@crispinravlin425626:54
@@crispinravlin4256 26:54
Thank you
"It's not about money, it's about sending a message."
-The Horizon, probably
an amazing message
A message without a mustache
The joker, Arkham knight
69th like
Likes, NO
I feel like a more effective way of shutting down a server is a lag machine *near* other players hidden away that doesn't totally destroy the tps but makes it just bad enough to be noticeably annoying, driving players away from the server.
Maybe hundreds of such lagg machines, barely noticable on their own.
Maybe, but that would be too evil lol
@@frostburnspirit9065 that would be an absurd logistical challenge
Or you can take control of it by loading the lag machine randomly, with redstone sending the player with a minecart all fully automated
@@The_Horizon unless 🤔
I was a veteran player on MS for a few years just after they merged two servers to create it, the played it pretty consistently from 2018 to 2021. it's always been absurdly pay2win, especially the towny part. Brought back a lot of memories when I saw the person who banned you, Yive was a developer back a year or two ago. He was notorious for messing with balancing and generally having no idea what he was doing. One of the server plugins he made had a dupe that was so easy to do I was able to materialise thousands of the store items in seconds. He didn't even ban me either he just confiscated the items and I never really understood why. He was generally regarded as being pretty incompetent and extremely arrogant about his decisions. He was also regarded as not having a clue what he was doing considering some of the stuff he changed at the time. At one point he was removed from the dev team publicly, but then silently made his way back in. the server has had problems with corrupt admins and pay2win for years now. Just wait until you see how bad towny is, people have almost quadrillions of dollars there, the economy is completely busted. Glad to see this joke of a server get what it deserves, the admins on there are really incompetent so i'm not surprised. To put it into perspective, Yive is a HEAD DEV for ALL SECTORS of the server, and it took him that long to figure it out. Great video giving this server what it's had coming for a long time!
lmaooo, thats pretty freaking crazy. it wont be the first time you see him.
@@The_Horizon oh 😳
@Quark I'm atheist but there's no reason to put religion on a comment that isn't even about religion.
@@rudyranger249 its a bot just report it for spam
@Quark God loves you bro
It's always a joy to see people putting in this much effort to ruin such blatant models designed to exploit children. Been considering doing stuff like this myself, but I'm just so garbage at it and I lack the patience. Good to know there are people to do it for me. By the way, I love the little captions showing the small goofs you've made. Those little oopsies are so relatable and make the videos more enjoyable.
It's their server.
@@wb6012It’s a children’s game.
Mojang: Can't be bothered to enforce their TOS
Mojang's spaghetti code: "Fine, I'll do it myself"
As an admin of a large server like this (non-p2w please don't hurt me) it pains me that the admins and owner couldn't find what was causing the lag. Its literally a single command to see the entities in the world, and they'd see 5000+ minecarts at the top of the list. It even shows the chunk location. But I guess I can't expect much from a server thats run like that.
EXACTLY lmao, when I started running my own anarchy server I thought lag machines would be a problem, but it's so damn easy to figure out what's causing it. These admins probably just arentpaid enough LOL
@@The_Horizon They are propably not payed at all.
I was about to ask how one goes about finding a lag machine in the first place. Thank you.
@@Glory264 ye, alot of admins for servers are "volunteers"
@@The_Horizon Horizon is Hause, confirmed.
I loved how the TPS was so bad that people had time to get a Doctorate in Computer Science so they could tell everyone that it wasn't a lag machine but, alas a packet loss.
Actually, I just learned how quantum physics mechanics work, and turns out it was a procedural error.
Well CLEARLY it means the Horizon was just running around stealing packets from the cables. The video is just a cover up so he can keep making these videos uncontested.
Just try actually building that "lag machine" and you'll see Horizon will run to your house and start stealing packets.
@@tipoima not my gushers!
@@The_Horizon GET OUT OF MY HOUSE
"*other servers* are on a different overclocked system..."
Me who has built too many computers to count: What does overclocking have to do with any of this?
“So knowing the admins may find me, I continued to mess with them, place more carts and leave messages”
Actually cracking up at how incompetent this P2W server was, how much you got to lag it, and you just messing with them and casually committing war crimes. Never stop man, you do outstanding work
lol, pretty much!
Should have left "to: admins. From: the horizon."
@@The_Horizon I guess the admins exploited this opportunity to do banning on dangerous players except you for last.
probably got angrier at the signs than the lag machine
@@minigundozer14 more like they didn't realize it was a lagg machine untill they stated it.
Jesus christ, being able to purchase an unban instead of learning from your mistakes.
This literally teaches kids that their parents wallet will solve every problem.
Thats the dystopiian truth, it kiinda does
Server: *0.0008 tps*
Staff: Runs administration command
Server: Your command has been added to the queue. Estimated wait time is 12 business days
Staff: I don't get paid enough for this, *Disconnects*
Maybe it took so long for them to ban me because /ban took that long to process
@@The_Horizon lmao
@@The_Horizon Well did some testing on a local server on 1.18.1 and at 1470 minecarts it actually crashed the server lmao, like just flat out died. However I did notice the command block I was using to summon the minecarts did slow down significantly overtime and as more showed up. When the average tick per milisecond got around 250ms it was only summoning around 4 minecarts per second. So I can't imagine what 5000+ would feel like lol. Not sure exactly how it would effect plugins or if at all but I can imagine it would be slow af.
@@The_Horizon pp
@@The_Horizon they banned advertiser earlier (propably)
To the guy who said "The server just doesn't have a enough RAM, you guys need to pay them"
I hope your next bag of cheetos is a fourth filled and all of them don't have the flavor
damnnn to far dude...
@@The_Horizon I could have said I hope you forget to feed your tomodachis
@@naka1644 chill out man... too far man... too far..
i hope their cheetos are soggy
… ok now we’re entering serial killer territory
no father
The worst part is that in the p2w rank it says: "The rank is exactly the same as royal, but with more cosmetics and t5 mining along with a sense of pride and accomplishment in helping fund the MineSuperior server"
I'm convinced this server is partly owned by EA
@K A D Y 📽️ mans introduced pornstars like the Blend S opening
@@twicevictorious8828 bro lmao
@@twicevictorious8828
Smile! Sweet!
Sister! Sadistic!
Suprise! "Sweeter"
that sounds exactly like a message from EA would sound like
Doing all this must've been so much more rewarding than actually playing the server would've been lmao
Horizon: “staff has no life”
Also Horizon: *mines 25,000 iron to prove a point*
This dude is metal.
I mean I sort of just kept my computer running during online school LOL
@@The_Horizon ur a legend reading all these comments B)
LITTERALLY METAL
litteraly
Heavy mettle.
I've never been happier than to find out that I've been reverse click-baited.
nice i found it first
damn so many likes thx
hey sal i love u
Lol
lmao, I didn't want people who didn't watch the whole video thinking I clickbaited them with 7500 in the title
hello checkmark
Wow I can’t believe staff didn’t care about the lag machine for 2 hours. 10/10 staff team
imagine
...paying 200 dollars on a server with greedy incompetent admins
...and then getting banned for no reason
...lol
...what losers
You should try this on the servers that have Slimefun and Infinity Expansions, its get even more insane. Slimefun Cargo in particular is extremely processor heavy. Putting too many cargo nodes (ie more than 100) in a single chunk can corrupt the chunk irretrievably, I hade a base that was built vertically , and thus had eventually more than 200 cargo nodes in. When it finally corrupted the chunk it was spectacular. (Note this was entirely accidental) The corrupt chunk was so dangerous to go near it would lock and corrupt your character if you went within 100 blocks, and then the corrupt chunks started to spread to adjacent chunks, like a cancer. eventually there was more than 100 corrupt chunks and the entire server was fatally killed/
Another server is accidentally killed was with Infinity expansion, its allows you to build very high tech machines and stuff, and has 'barrels' that can store up to 1.5billion of a single item, and one block machines like iron ore generators, and programmable single block electric crafting machines, as well as 10 different types of metals and additional other resource blocks. I Maxed out the expansion and had more than 40 BILLION ores and ingots instore, the processing of which eventually stopped the server and caused it to reboot......many times.....ooops!
most large servers know not to use them because of the dupes
@@The_Horizon ah.
Cargo nodes: I can irretreivably corrupt chunks. But, i am a mod
2b2t players about to place 10,000 furnaces in a single chunk and chunk ban anyone who comes in render distance, even the admin, Hausemaster: Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power!
That's a lotsa spaghetti
I got banned from this server for saying "damn" once. goes to show how broken their moderation is. Apparently saying "$249.99 for a rank? That's as much as a damn xbox" is "targeted harassment"
Lmao what?
XD
Yes, cause you hurt the server owner's chance to milk more cash, so he bonk you
Funny loophole, just say dam instead of damn. Can't ban you unless they really have the braincells to realize that it's being used to replace it.
wtf
“Imma afk and do my homework til this lag ends” horizon really out here being a positive influence on these youngins
My favourite part lmao
Gotta get kids to do their hw somehow looool
@@The_Horizon Thanks for the reminder to stop procrastinating on my work
@@yukierose9225 who the fuck are you
@@NotRed_23 your mom jk
"I'm going to go read the phone book. Wil be more stimulating than this."
that line came from the dude's soul
@Quark god loves you bro
@Quark even the playerESP hack can't find who tf asked
@@stickmouse5002 *You have been respected by the devil*
28:07 if u wanna see
@Quark must be a redditor 😱😱
The final message being "purchase an unban or appeal" is peak irony
When you start lagging a server and the players on it say "Finally", you know it's a terrible server
Lag is unavoidable for a lot of big servers, it's just a part of life. Players would say finally any time a lag spike lasts a long time anywhere
@@slipplays9502 they said something along the lines of "finally someone made a lag machine on this piece of shit server"
That's very stupid if you play on the server. Why not just go somewhere else?
@@godaddy8265 Some people just like to watch things burn. P2W servers are fun to join if you're there to troll without buying anything. Ik I'm guilty of it.
I’m the guy who made your comment go from 459 to 460 yw :)
I love that one guy condescending explaining how it wasn't a lag machine while you just sat there in the corner on top of your gargantuan lag machine
“nuh uh” -that dude
I'm cringing soo hard that guy was so stupid and tryna act smart
His other video he uploaded people were legitimately saying "someone has a backdoor to the server where hes crashing it" which isnt how that works. If you have access you'd just delete it@KeiGeri0406
I love how quickly everyone turned on the server within the first 10 seconds of lag.
REEEEEEE
I like that the soundtrack sounds like the fate of all the humanity is decided here
Well it might be
The fact you were even able to get away with flying and being able to x-ray that much ore is insane.
wasn't even xray it was an automining bot.
@@ZUnknownFox that used xray to find ores...
Usually the server plugin only tracks diamond or other rares mined.
@@asinglebanana yeah but at the start he xrayed a bunch of diamonds
their was a /fly thing in the surver so no one would prob know
_"ima afk and do my homework till this lag ends"_
_"I think I'll go read the phone book. Will be more stimulating than this."_
_"I'm leaving to watch paint dry. Bye."_
Didn't expect to see people actually going outside because of this LMAO, either way, I can't believe you guys have a part 2 ahead. Cool video!
when you actually touch grass
@@The_Horizon hi
hello checkmark!
@@The_Horizon Can't wait
@@The_Horizon when minecraft player discover there are real grass block irl
Admins when Horizon implodes the entire server with a lag machine: "I sleep"
Someone casually mentions another server: "REAL SHIT"
LOL
@@The_Horizon when part 2 im dying here
also i got banned for doing a completely harmless glitch that let me exit the world border
admins are too narcissistic to let people mention other servers
@@jeremychristian2418 it is here, my dude
At first I thought, damn… all those people probably put hours on the server and didn’t deserve this… but it’s like showing your best friend they’re being cheated on to their eyes, it hurts but at least they know to get out of that toxic relationship (ie. ptw server).
KUDOS TO YOU 🎉
tbh as someone who used to play on this server and spend a few bucks and stuff on such, yeah it definitely felt that way but eventually moved on from it and now i'm smoking the pack (not really but i wish) after discovering this vid after a year
The guy in chat that said he's been waiting over 40 minutes to open a chest was so damn funny.
It like the freakin loki meme.
"I have been trying to open a chest for HALF AN HOUR!"
or sad
both really
@@waldotheranger3987 Having played on super laggy servers, the pain of trying to open a chest really does hurt.
I love how they try to snatch every dollar they can, even a pay option to unban.
N-
*Banned*
*Unbanned*
Best 30 dollars spent.
Servers banning accounts for ransom.?
@@vonwolfe1310 you could literaly buy Minecraft agian eith that kind of money
@@jebidiahkerman4600 better use of money, since you’d get an alt and the money would go to Mojang and not this shit server
also nice pfp
@@txsurvivalandcreations what about ip-banning?
feedback in my opinion: don’t drain the economy yourself, it seems more productive to spread out the stashes and wait a week or 2 for an impossible rollback, and going longer before would drive players away from the server, obviously because they lost their progress
edit: tf?? i didnt expect this to blow up 💀💀
They can simply disable lag machine and it won't work any longer
@@The_Horizon damn i forgot about that 💀
@@The_Horizon Can they actually find them if you build a chunk loader instead of having a person there?
@@Nyerguds as far as I know that would work, but the nether needs to be enabled but that could work when I don't forget anything
@@Nyerguds they got core protect plugin, they can simply run a command and check who built what
this is the minecraft equivalent of nuclear warfare
i love it
I lost it when the ban screen said “purchase an unban.”
For anyone wondering, the reason why using minecarts in this fashion is so laggy isn't just because of the number of entities you're using alone, entity collisions (one entity pushing another) cause even more lag. If you spaced out each of those minecarts the TPS would probably be lots higher, but since they are packed together and ALSO moving, the game has to do SO many calculations per tick that it lags the game immensely.
thank you Sherlock, im not sure what we would do without you
Maybe using regular rails will cause entity collision to go wild.
@@Staramitas9027 But it will no longer accelerate
Not in the classic way. But, perhaps ups and downs with powered rails can cause lots of lag..
Yikes
I wonder how those who guessed that it was Horizon lagging the server reacted after finding out that they were correct XD
I’m sure they dident find out because it was recorded 2 years ago
Unless they are a horizon fans
@@rkpyi8616 horizon fards
They probably had a good grin on their face...
Getting clickbaited isn't pleasant, but getting reverse clickbaited is.
Also, still a banger a year later.
A more insideous thing to do would be to just place hundreds of much less potent lag machines around the server, underground near player bases. Then it would add up without a single obvious cause.
Oh that is evil, but I would imagine that would be very hard to build and very easy to discover
As someone who ran a server back in the beta, they can literally check who placed a block (including air blocks) when and even undo all actions from a specific user for a specified period of time. Unless the tools they use for their server are junk or they don't know how to use them.
Griefers are pretty easy to catch if you know what to look for.
@@jazzyj7834 That relies on them finding it. Part of the point (on top of having it be hard to get rid of + having it ramp up and down independent of any of them being online) is that it would be a lot harder to discover if no-where in particular sticks out as being especially laggy.
@@HaniiPuppy Then they check server logs. Or they simply roll back the server. It's not hard to resolve this issue. They just have to care, like a little.
@@jazzyj7834 Check server logs for *what*? And what would prompt them to? Any individual instance wouldn't be using resources outwith a sane range, and it's not like the lag would just suddenly pop up, it would ramp up over the course of time it would take to build it, and would fluctuate depending on how many players and when they're on the server. Again, part of the whole point of such a thing would be making it hard to discover.
+ Let's say they have discovered it, since you're assuming a level of dilligence of them that they don't actually have. They're not going to roll back the entire server for everyone, (assuming they even have any idea of *when* to roll the server back to) and if they only roll back a few chunks with one or two of the machines in there, it won't do very much. If you're using multiple accounts for it, they couldn't even use checking blocks across the entire world placed by a particular player. And even if they have the locations of all lag machines, if they've scattered them around the world, other players will have built or played above or around them by the time it's discovered. + They'd be left with the ongoing worry for months over whether any lag spikes are normal, new lag machines, or old ones they haven't found.
It has a low level of discoverability, it's awkward to establish the extent and find all instances, (with an aspect of unknowability) and it's a pain in the arse to get rid of properly.
This one was actually pretty clever! Instead of only being able to lag the server once the server was lagged often so the admins prolly thought it was a server issue at the beginning
Imagine not running /timings lol
Ew that comment
@@thatonelegoguy4548 dumb robots ami right man?
Yes
This is true. I'm CheechMarin from the video. We were so used to lag that both us players and staff just assumed it was normal server lag. According to staff back in 2020 when this was recorded, it was on an overclocked server and had frequent lag issues. I guess in this instance, it was exactly what you said. Staff assumed it was lag as their other servers were lagging. That message I put out in chat about it not being a lag machine came directly from staff in the MineSuperior discord. And I was mostly trying to stop everyone from spamming chat with "is there lag?" every 2 seconds.
Horizon: **Makes 7000 carts**
Title: 5000
Horizon: "I, too, am extraordinarily humbles."
I didnt want people to think they got clickbaited when I said "5000 is enough"
This is the type of TH-camrs we need
humbles
The only better strategy than this is to set up a botnet and DDoS the servers.
humbles
26:44 "the hamster is tired" lmaoo
litterally illegal animal labour
you could sort of try to hide an lag machine under a lava pool so that it would be harder for server owners to spot them in spectator mode, as lava is so annoying to deal with
He let them purposely find him as he pitied the staffs and admins have only 3 Braincells to figure it out.
that is very smart, but incredibly painful to do. Lava isn't like water, so I can't just use kelp or whatever. I don't know how I would approach doing something like that.
@@The_Horizon probably iron trap doors would do the work
@@Knosek or he could bulk mine diamonds to sell for money to buy fire res potions
@@The_Horizon Put lava over a layer of signs with the lag machine underneath
The animation explaining your 'big mistake' was super novel and very well done. Keep that animator around
I will!
@@The_Horizon was the animator you by any chance?
@@Mr_Doogz the guy who made it is in the description
@@kreghzdee ah, thanks
@@The_Horizon Lock him up in your basement
Expectation: "Lagging a Pay-To-Win Minecraft Server with 5000 Minecarts"
Reality: "Lagging a Pay-To-Win Minecraft Server with 7500 Minecarts"
5000 sounds nicer
@@FrappeInsider but 7500 is better
@@matika444 but 7501 is better
@@Knightpiecerules but 7502 is better
@@tgauff6625 but 7503 is better
Horizon: *literally builds a lag machine*
Admins: THIS IS NOT A LAG MACHINE, THE PROVIDER IS JUST POOPITY-POO, UHH, PACKET LOSS
What's mind boggling to me is how expensive ranks are, and why people would even spend that much on a rank...
I agree with you, but value is pretty a subjetive thing.
If they think it worth it, that's just a fair trade.
Nothing wrong and illegal at all.
Crashing their server was unecessary and childish.
Even because there's people paying for it, trying to enjoy their gameplay sometimes in the few minutes or hours they get through a day of responsabilities...
Crashing the server just made the fact that they are paying for it worse to the players.
They expecting a good service, and this guy, just exploded their server getting people mad because he though it is fair to crash a server that people voluntary pay to play on it..
That is even more mind boggling, dont you think?
@@Heaview oh I don't condone what he did at all to be fair. I think it was stupid, similar to people that DDOS games cause their upset about some aspect of it.
@@kid10249595 you have to realize that the mainstream people who let themselves to be exploited, will bring these practices to other servers and games because it's profitable. Why do you think so many trash games are being released? It's because simple people on console will buy anything which looks cOoL. Children and simpletons are ruining our games, it's good that their servers and games are getting attacked.
@@commie_remover Greed is ruining games. Don't be mad at the people being pandered to, be mad at the people pandering to them
@@gwenzhead566 I'm equally mad at both
This is some serious dedication. I think it says a lot about a server when you can pay to get unbanned.
I didn't know such servers existed. Not good.
He should crowdfund paying for his unban, so he can go back in and try again.
Or enter with other account
It’s like churches when martin luther wrote his book
@@BalloonsCrafts tlauncher moment
The admins on this server made house master look Active.
LOL
me, a 2b2t nut about to say it's hausemaster:
Hahah best comment ever 😂🤩
💀
hausemaster*
This was without a shadow of a doubt one of the most hilarious things I have ever seen in minecraft!!! like, this was absolutely awesome Horizon and I think this should 100% continue as these servers need to be taught a lesson.
It’s hilarious that a mod in /vanish bans someone for their first chat offense but can’t figure out who put down 5000 mine carts to create a lag machine in under an hour. Can’t wait for part 2.
Bro, iT iS NoT a LaG MaChiNe
@@leeroyjenkins0 get the latest version of the map, put it in a map editor and filter for powered rails or something. It's sadly easy to fix, you don't even need to know any coding.
@@leeroyjenkins0 you're right i didn't think about that they would have to know what to look for. I'm baffled though because i came to this vid randomly and could never imagine p2w being a thing in minecraft. I stopped playing idk, a couple of years after it was released and p2w servers in mc wasn't something i could even imagine. Pretty dogshit tbh. I shall never return to mc.
@@mistaowickkuh6249 there's always single player! The game has gotten so much better than in the early days
Because it wasnt a lag machine. it was just a memory leak 🤡
"I swear if this is horizon"
I legitimately got lightheaded from laughing so hard.
"THESE ■■■■ BLOKCS WON'T BREAK EVEN WHEN I RAPE THEM WITH MY IRON PIC!!!"
Man who says that lmaooo
@@moronribbons5774 wtf
@@moronribbons5774 It was hilarious
ngl this was my first time on this channel so I thought everyone in chat was just blaming Verizon but Verizon was censored so they kept saying horizon instead
@@RobotAnimals well, welcome to the channel and enjoy what you see
I love how this man measures "power" In how much tps he can lower on a server
Stando Powah!
So its the same type of stand as Star Platinum...
It's like King Crimson, but backwards.
Instead of erasing time, it stretches individual microseconds into an eternity
ROLLA KOSUTA DA!
So what Mayuri did to Apollo.
So many guys asked if its Horizon. I’d like to see their reaction to this video! *laughed for like the last half, thank you A LOT for making this with chat*
Massive optimization: set the loading track on a slope so that even when it freezes outside of the loaded chunks it'll gain speed automatically once it's loaded. Have them fall onto a larger loop of _unpowered_ powered rails so they freeze in a downward position. The TPS won't drop nearly as bad when priming the loop and then all you have to do is flick a lever to power the loop up and wreck the CPU with collision calculations. As for the iron, an iron golem farm would've helped and a redstone supersmelter with hoppers would work fine, they aren't that hard to make. Great video, keep up the good fight!
Big brain, that's pretty smart!
couldn't you also have a dispenser fed by hoppers place carts? it might not be as fast as manually, but you could set up a hopper/chest chain to have it run automatically.
smart like monke
pls report this to paper suggestions
@@michaelkolano8686 That would work for a while but the dispensers would slow down with the TPS drop. It'd be great if you were by yourself, but with friends and autoclickers laying down carts at the max speed it's redundant. Not a bad idea if you want to AFK on the surface where you can pretend to be doing "normal" minecrafting without being caught near the machine.
"someone is running a lag michean" Words as wise as these have never been said before
572 results on google + ratio
my buddy, lag michael
michean is running away! oh no, what do we do?
@@The_Horizon Ddos the server so the tps will be so slow that they cant run!!!!
@@grinmace4834 nah, kill the owners! Then the server won't run!
"I cut a tree 2 minutes ago and still haven't got the wood" 20:51
"I'm literally in the void" 25:29"
"Is this server hosted on a potato?" 26:32
"I've been trying to pick up the same fireworks for like 5 minutes now omg" 26:41
"2b2t has less lag" 27:01
"bro why would you pay 250 dollars for a rank" 27:14
"I have been waiting for 40 minutes to open a chest" 28:00
"server is running on a nokia phone" 28:07
"hey guys just so everyone knows, the lag is NOT coming from a lag machine" 28:43
"of course I dropped me op shovel as soon as it started" 29:21
the hamster is dying 26:46
Wow.
Someone said “I think the servers hosted on a lemon battery” 💀
I was quite partial to the laggaroni and cheese comment
01;47;45;56
30:55
"the host is a laptop in a dumpster in the most dangerous part of india behind a shop called Fat Twinks"
this is geniunely the funniest shit ive ever seen, everybody in the chat freaking out only for the mods to come on and pull some bullshit excuse
"The server was lagged out for 2 hours and 42 minutes"
That is exactly how long it took for the Titanic to sink. Can't believe you waited that long bro. Thanks for the video!
THATS ACTUALLY CORRECT LMAO
Kind of ironic that the owners name is titanic too LMAO
Good observation that's amazing lmao
coincidence? I think not
@@The_Horizon hopefully in the next part we get to see Titanic's pay-to-win server "sink", If you get what I'm saying.
Lol that coincidence is so insane it doesnt even seem like one
thats actually insane
I used to be a mod for this server. Thank you for your service Horizon.
How was it?
Actually, before that, let me ask : were you paid?
@@anonymousmcanonymous3055 In case he was a mod, maybe even paid to be mod
@@anonymousmcanonymous3055 lmao p2w servers never pay their staff it's all about greed
@@gt750kr then why would anyone want to be staff on this kind of server lmao
@@LC-hd5dc power
honestly, the fact that the admins took this long to do anything is proof they only care about making money off of their players.
As a retired Minesuperior player yea this is normal
true
@FreeMoneyBot
Then their staff naming system is weird
If you're an admin but not paid, you're not administrating the server, you're a developer and a moderator, but not an admin.
@FreeMoneyBot well they don't get paid in cash they get paid in server gift cards so you can buy shit on the server even helpers get this but obviously the higher you are staff wise the more this increases
@@laplongejunior lol yea i know this is confusing the only people who get paid in cash are developers and Managers the rest of the staff get paid in gift cards for the server an old friend of mine was once a Mod on that server and he said yea gift cards for the server and for each staff there was a quota of time you had to log on the network itself generally you'd spend like 10-15 mins on a server then move to the next one
I really like the JOJO referrance and it's a cool idea for a stand in general. Oh and of coruse the video is amazing, your shear comitment is astounding! I hope you bring this server down! Good luck!
i love how one of the players even said "Someone finally lagging this sh*thole"
hell ye
He rebelled as good players should
At what minute?
@@punkosproductions 21:19
@@sensei5441 thx
@@punkosproductions no worries
After six days of lags, a moderator finally descended upon the server.
"Oh f*ck", he spoke. "This isn't good."
The other young moderator who is still learning Minecraft basics spawned. "Gary, im sorry." He said, nervous. "I don't know what we're dealing with."
LOL
"Spend it well"
"Don't worry I will"
*lags the fuck out of his server*
*The best way to spend money*
23:31
"WHO IS RUNNING LEG MACHINE" had me dieing
I will never understand people who willingly choose to play and especially pay on a server like this
Paypigs with no life on disability money.
It probably has to do with addiction of some sort. It reminds me of adults I seen in my life who spend all day in a casino until bankruptcy or losing all loved ones in their life. Honestly they themselves are victims because those server owners basically prey on their customers emotionally compromised states.
Their parents could also be multi millionaires and/or don’t know about the importance of money
It's a status thing. They want the feeling of being more privileged than someone else, and can't get that on a normal server.
There’s a roblox game developer called Sonar Studios, and they make very pay-to-win games. Primarily their game Creatures of Sonaria (a game where you survive as different original monsters/creatures made by sonar. To their credit, the models and animations are STUNNING) that has a rarity-based system with their creatures. Players scramble to collect all the rare ones, and there’s a lot of stereotypes about people who main as certain creatures. For example, if you play as a small creature called a minawii, you are guaranteed to get targeted and harassed by larger creatures, but if you play as a moonelle, people will protect you with their lives bc moonelles have a healing ability. I used to be addicted to it but I saw the light and quit playing it because the player base SUCKS, the devs SUCK, and the game has strayed FAR from the original intentions. It’s still fun, but I really just resent the game. This server reminds me of Creatures of Sonaria. The only reason people play it is because they’re addicted, and in the Minecraft server, I’ll bet it’s the same as in CoS; no one plays it for the original intent (for cos it’s to survive and have fun and sometimes rp). They play it to show off their rare stuff, or because they’ve been playing it for a long time and have just gotten addicted to collecting and spending money. I really hope people addicted to games like this can recover because it’s depressing tbh. I’ve seen people on that roblox game saying how they stay up until 3 in the morning grinding to get “shrooms”, the in game currency, and bragging about how little they eat. They’re clearly just depressed and unhappy teenagers and young adults that find solace in the game, despite how shit it is. And the fact they’re so miserable is evident in the way they act. I saw it in the chat of the server in this video too. They’re hateful, judgmental, and selfish. There are a few rare nice people, but for the most part, they’re bloodthirsty and will kill you based off what fictional animal you chose to play as in a fcking ROBLOX GAME. Plz stop spam killing minawiis my GOD. Anyways thanks for reading my rant, I just see a lot of similarities. Word to the wise: don’t play creatures of Sonaria. It’ll hook you in, chew you up, and spit you out. Either that or it will piss you off to no end until you finally give up pretending to enjoy it, like I did. And probably don’t play Minecraft servers like these either.
imagine if they banned the account but didnt remove the lag machine so any player could just come across the chunk in the nether and lag the server
The hidden bomb
This could work as an urban legend for the server. "The lost lag machine hidden deep in the nether."
their PC just gets sent to the shadow realm
@@MmmEERTGF "they say that the creator of the lag machine died because his soul was needed to power the machine"
And then they would ban that player too, thinking it was him -> repeat 😂
Im guessing the reason the lag machine stayed loaded even though you left was because it was lagging so bad that the server took a while to recognise and process that those chunks shouldn't be loaded anymore.
Litterally that crazy
Perpetuum mobile. The ever running wheel.
@@thanatos5729 The train of suffering
When the lag has lag
A True Entropy Machine, and from what i've been seeing they deserved it.
24:03 that dude wasn't lying lol
It really is!
@@The_Horizon no way you replied lol
Horizon: Lags server for 2 hours and finally gets banned
Horizon: Purchases unban using server's rules, does it all over again
@@drippykirbo horizon
@@dailaredits horison
@@drippykirbo horison 🤯🙏🏻
EZ I was thinking of doing do as a meme and charging back but I'm pretty sure that's illegal
@@The_Horizon yeah I wouldn’t mess with chargebacks like that
26:46 "the hamster is tired" that one made me laugh
took me a hot second to understand but that made me chuckle
Took me a few seconds, bruh that guy got big brain humor
The infamous server hampster that runs War Thunder is running Minecraft at the same time now.
I have never seen someone, so dedicated into eliminating a Pay-To-Win Server, by using a lag machine scheme, you deserve respect for the hard work. Here is a sub!
I don't understand the complaints in the first place, or the willingness to grief. Servers are a dime a dozen, and you'd need to go out of your way to join and stay on a server such as this.
@@granolapancake have you no pride as a minecrafter?
@@danceofthevoid6772 Don't join a pay to win server?
@@granolapancake dont join a ton of servers you mean?
@NotKuroki it’s not tho, can really tell the people in the comments that have read the eula.
Her:hes probably cheating out there😢
Me and the boys:
so much effort put into this especially with the animations, you never fail to impress
Ayo tar1a
haha yep, needing a way to demonstrate what I meant more clearly!
Wait Tar1a?
@@The_Horizon: Did you use Blender for those animations?
@@FluffyPuppyKasey I didnt make them, but yes the person who did used blender
When you can buy an unban on the server, that's an instant red flag.
When you can buy anything on a minecraft server honestly - at a certain point, just go play creative mode :)
@Daphoid your not paying for items you're paying for power over other players
In Brazil for some crimes, you can pay for liberty instead of being condemned. We call it "Fiança".
I think many other countries around the world this concept exist. Why not in a game?
If the person wish to come back to this server, good for them to get this possibility.
If you dont liked it, there's hundred of other servers.
Dont you agree it's a good thing for the banned tohave the chance to get back to his favorite server? If hethinks it worth more paying than being banned, is something wrong? I think not. It's a fair trade.
@@Heaview There's bail for specific reasons and that's a misdemeanors where the public doesn't care much about if you bail out of them since most of the time it doesn't affect anyone. But this is different since this game is not real or actual laws, so doing this is simply trying to get money out of people any way possible. Also appeals should cost you anything as you're trying to appeal something either if you were rightfully or not banned.
IDK why you're trying to conflated real life problems which most of the time have corrupt intent just to get more money to a minecraft server.
@@pushyrummble8625 They wont get the money if the person thinks buying the unban isnt worth, dont you agree?
I just wish to put in simple words thay I dont see anything wrong with it since it's a fair trade if both parts agree.
I understand, some people get mad for having to pay for every little thing in a game, that's perfectly reasonable. I myself would not play in a P2W server or game.
But there's no point crashing those servers, they're not doing anything wrong.
They can't force anyone to pay for their services, only hope to someone think paying worth it.
Since always it's a fair trade, there's really a problem in there?
What do you think?
The part that confuses me the most is that multiple people thought it was a memory leak. That's not how that works, if it was it would just crash the program since it no longer has any memory to use.
The server has 1tb of ram bruh
If it's set up to use swap memory, it's plausible. Server runs out of RAM, starts using SSD/Hard drive instead which is orders of magnitude slower. But still very unlikely.
Hi, CheechMarin from the video here. I remember this day quite well. Staff were BSing us hardcore about the lag, telling us all it was a network wide issue. Wool got pulled over all our eyes collectively. Staff was terrible there too.
If a program runs out of ram, it'll start using hard drive space for extra storage and constantly load memory in and out of hard drive, which would lag the program super bad but shouldn't crash.
Running out of ram and then hard drive space will crash though.
AFAIK Java (which MC is made in) usually can't leak memory unless you're doing something really stupid (like letting references pile up in a static class) or something that's straight up insane (like manually allocating and deallocating memory.)
i love how you use such grand sweeping orchestral music throughout this. it makes me feel like i'm witnessing some truly brave and heroic acts, and honestly, i am ;)
That one guy who said "I swear to God, if this is Horizon" knows how shit goes down
I almost cried laughing when this came up
If anyone is looking for it timestamp is 21:16
I love how they insult the server's capability more than blaming an assumed lag machine
“Server is running on a potato/baguette/rat/lemon battery/Nokia phone” lol
@@stevia99 "the hamster is tired"
@@warmike lmaoooooooooooooooooooooo
the servers capability is dependent on competent mods and admins. the server did not have that.
All jokes aside, I can't belive it takes that long for a mod/admin on a p2w server to find and ban someone operating a lag machine, Unreal. Good job with the video, You did an amazing job!
haha, hard to believe it myself
Most mods/admins from p2w servers know jack s$@# when it comes to *actual moderation/server maintenance*
They expect the job to be easy. Hence the reason you see private servers (for many other games besides MC) popping in and out of existence.
@@The_Horizon can i ask how did the admins found you?
@@packallgaming7687 teleporting to random people until they see sketchy stuff
@@The_Horizon ohh
I was laughing the whole time. Miss these p2w demolition videos
Reminder:
Servers that are selling you items to essentially skip the gameplay of Minecraft and immediately negate weeks of potential grinding are P2W. Servers that lock QoL changes and downright unfair commands behind a paywall are P2W.
These servers also go entirely against what Mojang wanted for Minecraft to become, alongside often times promoting themes of *gambling* and *high risk, high reward* to children who may not even be at the age of 13 yet. Whether you'd want to blame the parents for not monitoring what their children may potentially want to purchase with their credit card isn't up for debate, because its clear that these owners are using downright scummy tactics to trick children and teens into purchasing items that'd "make them better" than everyone else.
P2W servers are a problem. Can't afford to host a Minecraft Server? Make a Patreon / sell cosmetics only (Mojang has stated they support cosmetics).. or don't make one. Its as simple as that.
There's a reason why the Staff are almost always undertrained / severely incapable when apart of a P2W server and its simply that the Owner doesn't care about the server.
If you make a P2W server, you only care about the money.
Therefore, P2W servers deserve it and shouldn't at all be apart of Minecraft.
They're entirely against TOS too. You can easily get your server terminated and face legal action for this kind of thing
could not have said it better myself!!
monke
Microsoft is wanting that to go as well. Smh.
Agreed. If you want to make money WITHOUT affecting the game itself, it gotta be like skins, cosmetics or something like player heads, paintings, customizable stuff. Those do not affect the game, but still makes money for those who have spare.
Honestly though, I'm fairly sure this sort of server is against TOS anyways. I'm not really sure how mojang / microsoft would handle it but it might be worth reporting some of these servers to them as well.
Yes, all PTW features are explicitly against the EULA on Java edition, which is why Horizon is so comfortable putting these kinds of vids online-he’s got the legal high ground, not just the moral one. Of course SLAPPing (using the threat of a frivolous but still expensive legal action to silence those who can’t afford a long legal battle) is still a thing, but if these guys try bothering Mojang, either it’ll just be ignored or THEY’LL be the ones getting banned, not Horizon.
@@IONATVS slapp horizon, and they will awaken the sleeping behemoth that is microsoft's legal team
@@IONATVS secretly he is working for mojang and this is their response to p2w servers
@@IONATVS see that's the issue. I'm a former player and I appear in this video (I'm CheechMarin) and I remember even in 2020 when this video was recorded, bringing up the EULA to staff. We were told that the EULA didn't apply for....some reason, I can't remember now. Any time anyone brought it up, it was dismissed as apparently the EULA was changed or something and now allows those p2w things.
Mojang can blacklist the server, preventing connexions from a vanilla client.
However, P2W servers found ways to bypass this, to make sure players don't know it is illegal. On some servers, "EULA" is on the swearing list to make sure players ignore their rights.
the fact that the admins thought it was a server host issue is hilarious to me
They made that up because they didn't want to investigate.
While it was actuallya skill issue