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Wait so Fuslie and the ex wife of Noah talked about it 3 years ago and the ex wife forgave Fuslie? I’m sorry but if the matter have already been resolved 3 years ago what are we doing here, I swear people are addicted to drama dopamine
exactly. and to compare it with wendy's situation is too much of a nonsense. bet if rae and other friends knew it at that time, the reaction would be different. but it was in the past and both involved parties had solved the problem, why prolong the drama?
@@Anthween1 I just gave you the answer of what are we doing here ? The same thing that happened in past with Lily situation yall were invested so much back then now thats happening to ur fav streamer words of wisdom coming outta ur mouth 🤷♂️
I dated a girl that was married. We dated for months. I didn’t know she was married but I broke it off immediately when I found out. Just put yourself in the shoes of the person getting cheated on and it’s an easy choice.
TLDR: She didn't cheat. Still fucked up really bad. They confided in each other about personal stuff even tho he was married. After they admitted to each other they caught feelings they eneded it, and have not spoken in years. She has privately apologized to the wife in 2021.
The mere fact that leslie entertained noahj knowing that he is still married is a malicious act itself. Its not termed literal cheating, but her action is just as worse as cheating. Remember this life lesson, cheaters and the person theyre cheating with are only sorry just because they are caught.
@@resipsaloquitur6449 wdym with leslie was only sorry because they were caught where infact leslie apologized to noahs wife way back 2021, bcoz she knew she fucked up. now the issue blew up, she took accountability and addresses the issue to why it happened.
@@resipsaloquitur6449 dude, this was 3 years ago and she didnt get caught. She admitted to the wife directly and apologized then cut contact with the dude. It was only new to people outside the friendgroup suddenly discovered about this. The people involved already moved on, so dunno why people feel really entitled for her to do more. Its just so dumb
They did more than just confide with themselves she was waiting for 5 months for him to divorce his wife while Leslie and noah were physically and emotionally hooking up 4 5 months
The way other people phrase it tho... I'm just on my way to watch Leslie's vod, so take it with with a grain of salt, but from what I read from others she didn't "went after" a married man. She confided to him, MAYBE, maybe 'cuz I still haven't watch the explanation vod, as a friend that understands what he is going through and had gone through it herself. She has also ended a relationship that lasted a long time before the interactions and probably is trying to support Noah as he is planning to undergo the same process. And then they caught feelings and stopped. I don't think people understand how easy it is to catch feelings with friends that you always talk to while in an unstable state. I had a couple of friends I caught feelings because I'm emotionally vulnerable to the point that consistent talking, caring and sweet support can get me attached. It's not right that it was towards a married man, but I think she meant good and started this interaction innocently. It's just she's not mentally and emotionally there to stop herself from falling and made this connection weird. Plus points that she caught herself falling tho, and balancing right back, cut him off, and apologize to the wife for "emotional cheating". Think about how many women/men friends went through that and didn't stop until they stole that person from their partner, now that's definitely cheating, like the full blown kind. Not excusing Leslie's mistakes tho. But a mistake is a mistake. Putting out the fire when it just started is forgivable, feeding twigs on the fire when you realized about it first is different. Now, it'll be different if she actually went for him. Don't go after married men please and go "tests" 'em, it's weird asf and you prolly need therapy for whatever trauma you have to be doing that.
Based on what Rae said, it is both “Cheating” but there are factors that make it different from each other. I don’t know if Fuslie admitting it on stream was better than the other, which was Abe and Wendy keeping it private then, but the latter did leave the people to speculate without confirmation. And this is the only video that I saw that someone confirmed it, that Wendy did, in fact, cheat. At the end, it’s sad that this happened again with someone within their friend group.
@@anonymousgreen5080 I never knew. I only saw Rae’s vid about confirming it. I actually also don’t know how close xqc is to abe that he could confirm then that wendy did actually cheat on abe.
@@armadgedon88 basically abe starts rust servers. We cant take all words of xqc obv becoz once he said hasan and poki are dating which was wrong becoz next day poki streamed with kevin. I think they would probably know what happens in a friend circle. Like he could ask others who are close to abe what actually happened and could keep all detailed info hidden. We dont know exactly as few streamers dont interact online much but they are close friends offstream.
@@armadgedon88 also abe statement was: i tried to fix the relationship. But i couldn't and it had to be done. He said he was living for 40days in ryan's house during the divorce proposal. Wendy not making any useful reason and rae miyoung blocking wendy in twitter but inviting abe to their house and streams probably can say that wendy was doing something worse. So she got distanced.
People seem to forget this happened 3 YEARS AGO. That doesn't make it better, doesn't make it acceptable, it's gross but she has talked and apologized to THE WIFE. Who is the only one with the right to be mad at leslie, and not or do forgive her. Her friends know her NOW and won't drop her for something that has healed and that happened 3 years ago. You can disapprove someone's choice, but think about it from their perspective, would you drop your longtime friend for something that happened 3 years ago? I'm confident that if her friends would've been made aware of the cheating situation, they would've shut it down, or advice her, but it's in the past now so it's incredibly more complicated.
@theblueexorcist8731 she was emotionally vulnerable. If it was someone in there sane mind that did this (aka Wendy) I would be disgusted. Internet are quick to judge people. If anyone that should be mad at Leslie it's Martina.
@@001Tdog so according to if people just say they are emotionally vulnerable they can do whatever they want lol you taking simping to the next level dude
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As a long time fan of Leslie I'm so DISAPPOINTED in her too. No biased but both Leslie and NoahJ are at fault here. The only victim here is his wife Martina give her all your support. As for Wendy and Leslie as Rae said it's different situations. Whether Abe or Wendy talked about it in the future. I'm pretty sure Wendy f*cked up more BTS. That's why she got excommunicated by all her friends except Lily.
Not sure of who fcked up more.. is it the girl who cheated on a rando on EDC or the girl who home wrecked, knew that the guy had a wife but still go for him.. both should get excommunicated actually in my opinion
@@cmloreo3010 the girl who cheated…was the wife and still did it. The “home wrecker” didnt get physical. She realised her feelings and pulled out of the situation. The situation got resolved 3 yrs ago by all parties involved. Why are you crying as if you were also there when this happened.
imo leslie's actions shouldn't be condoned. but no one should demand certain actions from her or her personal friends. perhaps the ONLY victim in the situation can, but it sounds like they wrapped that up 3 YEARS AGO. if you think leslie's friends not treating her the same way wendy was treated as hypocritical, maybe you should stop watching this friend group and the OTV friend group altogether.
if you are actually defending leslie when you're not her personal friend, maybe think twice about your life choices. because this issue should actually affect how you look at these people
She was obviously in a very emotional place. I know from experience with myself and others, youre not in the right mindset in a time like that. Doesnt excuse what youve done though, whats important is how you handle the consequenses.
For me she handled it well. She sent an aplogy to his ex-wife privately and cut ties with him. She looked genuinely sorry and it looks like she learned from it.
@@DioceseofKalookan-kt4nq if I have to take a guess, maybe some form of domestic violence from Wendy was involved as well? I mean I’m only assuming it’s very bad break up cuz the way Rae says it seems like theres something worse happened than just Wendy cheating
@@raijin5733yea what i was thinking as well. This is a HORRIBLE ASSUMPTION but she coulda been manipulative, abusive, threatening self-harm if exposed, etc. There’s still more reasons to divorce than just cheating. Again this is just a horrible assumption.
This is sad. WE as a whole community that has NOTHING to do with them personally should not be judging and telling their friends to judge them too. It’s weird and gross. Horrible decisions were made and unfortunately they are public figures, so we all hear about the good and bad. It’s just sad. 😔
She fucked up yes, but people made it way more than it is. She caught feelings for a married man, that’s fucked up, not saying she was a victim, but she was in a vulnerable state, and a man (who was married) came to her, and if you’ve ever been in a relationship and went through a breakup, you’d know how it feels, everyone that’s nice to you would feel like the world. Does it make it right? Hell no, but comparing that to someone who cheated on their husband not that long after their marriage is insane, it’s like comparing someone who shoplifts basic necessary to a bank heist
Istg, they're just overreacting at this point, i mean yes she fucked up but she's a human, she's gonna make mistakes. But she did try to make it right and is remorseful of whatever happened
let me paint a picture for you, why she's fcked up.. Marriage can still be saved if there was no third party involved, her validating the feelings of the guy probably sealed the deal for divorce.. If that situation didn't happen, I'm very sure that the couple may have worked things out or maybe not.. he may have cheated with someone else.. But then again, we can all agree that Fuslie was the catalyst for the divorce. Also the fact that she just ended her engagement a month prior to this and say that she went for the married guy because she's vulnerable... no no no, that's not vulnerability, that's getting a rebound.
Im so confused whats going on.. i thought stuff happened years ago. And recently Ive mostly been watching the good ole days of OTV and only a few new stuff of the now separate group 😮
I feel unless you’ve been in a long term relationship where there is an engagement broken off or marriage problems, you can’t really know exactly what they went through at the time. What was done isnt right but people on the internet have done so much worse. I’m not excusing the actions but I’d like to think that both people involved really learned for the mistake and never let it happen again.
The only victim here is the dude’s ex wife. And as much as I enjoy Rae’s content she was not prepared to bring this up on stream. Not saying she shouldn’t have, but she genuinely said nothing. This was definitely some fun “drama” as a viewer but anyways, back to not caring about streamer’s personal lives.
Honestly they could have stay quiet on the situation especially if everything is settled already. Look at Will and Caroline, Wills cheating allegations just died down without them talking about it. But some of OTVF are just easily pressured by their stans opinions
I think that was the intention. it's not her place to say anything but if people keep bugging her about it, she's gonna say atleast something to just shut people up
@@aulariah I guess, Rae does get peer pressured by here fans way too easily 💀 they’re only staying friends with Leslie because the one who got hurt isn’t their friend like in Abe and Wendy’s situation. But she never spoke about that one because it wasn’t her place to talk about either. I think Rae needs to wait for her PR before she opens her mouth about drama 💀
@@Milk_Carton11 she was definitely get pressured by their stans since she is so vocal with other peoples drama. Same with Leslie. They like to give opinions. She did not say anything about the abe and wendy drama but it is visible how they supported abe and cut off wendy entirely. And if what she said is true that she only knew this now, she definitely will feel more disappointed especially she is the one who brought leslie to 100t and she knows noah since 2018 (they are the first 2 creators of 100t). Tbh streamers do not have good PR since they are live streaming they can't help to answer their chat
she didn't cheat on edison but she was the "other women" in a cheating situation. she was also knew the whole time that the guy was married. i forgive her either way
Why are we acting like these ppl we watch are infallible. Leslie has done 1% of what so many men on these platforms get away with. The comparisons are so dumb.
Then why are you comparing...? It's up to every individual to decide what people "get away with." The people that support the Logan Pauls or DrDisrespects are probably not fans of Leslie so we can't expect the same responses to the situations even if she did the same things they did. Her situation is different entirely and she has an entirely different audience and friends to answer to because she decided to do something bad. It is the nature of the beast.
The larger and more important difference between leslie and wendy is that leslie hurt some loser called Noah who is not in the friend group whilst Abe is in the friend group. Imagine Leslie hooked up with someone who was part of the friend group in a relationship (John, etc). Rae and the others would dump her immediately no questions asked (because how can you take sides?).
That is a difference, yes. But I don't think that's the larger and more important difference. Especially when Rae confirmed, with permission from Abe, that that situation was far worse, involved a lot more and doesn't compare to this situation at all
No she didnt hurt lose noah. Both of them hurt martina who is innocent. Noah was clearly faking his cry in his apology video. Also we dont know whats exactly with wendy. Rae said "connect the dots". Becoz she cant talk (3rd person) about it and ruin wendy's career. So wendy did worse than leslie on a scale of 1-10. (Dw leslie also is being measured for her crime).
I dont understand. People like to bring up shit that happened years ago. Why not bring it up at the TIME, and not wait til years down the line? So you can witness someone’s downfall? Im not tryna say what leslie did was okay, because it wasnt. But if its such a big deal then why wait til now to bring it up? And to then compare it to the Wendy situation is CRAZY. Not to mention, if the ex wife already forgave her then, shouldnt it be fine now? People only want drama, but they dont even know what happens BTS, so they dont have any room to talk imo
both situations are disgusting she not wrong. but if it happened to my best friend i would distance myself for awhile and then when i miss them i'll talk to them cuz theyre my best friend after all. ok personally if it happened to my best friend and they only told me 2 years later i would forgive them like after a long talk and understanding wtf happened and if my best friend realised and didnt continue the relationship i will not cut ties with them but i'll tease them about it every chance i get 2 years worth of teasing.
"haha remember that time you helped ruin a marriage?" What do you mean "tease?" Lmao That's not really a joking thing to bring up. If you forgive them that's fine but making jokes about it doesn't sound good at any point.
@@justanotherperson05 i think he meant to expose his friend if she finds any suspicious activity in any of friends meet or parties. 🤔. And they would feel embarrassed and not even try to do one. Becoz steamers often time only date streamers. So their friends meet/parties will be the main way of meeting new ppl and finding feelings.
Fuslie didnt cheat (at least as far as i know), Noah123 or whatever is the guy that cheated. Leslie didnt have any commitment to his wife, like sure its a bit shitty but the true problem is the guy, not her. Cheating is an awfull thing, being a lover is like at most just bad (unless you are close to the person who is being cheated on in some way).
Why is anyone stretching the Fuslie situation at all? She didn't actively cheat, or actively help someone cheat. She wrongfully reciprocated feelings but the only active thing she did was choose to cut all contact with him...Her situation literally isn't that deep, stop dragging it
Okay just saw this video and I think i was soooooo freaking late like what happened???? Pls enlightened me.. what happened to leslie? What happened to wendy and abe??? 😢😢
Personal option rae has no reason to talk about this publicly it a private made that was resolved years ago. Talking about a friend with a sense of repulsive icky feel but rae a massive hypocrite like telling people not to be parasoical which she basically is doing here, i know it a bit different but the concept still applies here. I would like to say i know rae has been cheated on, but this is crossing the line.
People are just people in the end it doesn't matter if you're working at a supermarket or you're a CEO. This kind of thing happens all the time, when you spend a lot of time at work or far from home, the relationship doesn't last. The only difference between a nobody and a public figure, the later has to deal with insult and probably worse compare to the other case where o'ly family and friends will know.
So Basically he put some feelers out testing the waters in the single scene leslie took the bait they went back and forth but they didnt do anything physically it was sorted 3 years ago and now someone threw them under the bus to hush up their own indescretions? If its done its done people need to remember we only see what we are allowed to see theres thousands of bts we would love to get the tea on but lets face it we dont have the right to that information if people arent sharing it
Calling the situation disgusting is a bit much. It wasn't ideal or simple. Noah and his wife already had their issues so it was inevitable. Save Fairy tale endings for the Fairy tales.
People think their mad at Leslie but it how they are treating the situation when their friend stance has been so strong on cheaters but what seem to be a pass for Leslie.
@davidprates3336 TLDR: She didn't cheat. Still fucked up really bad. They confided in each other about personal stuff even tho he was married. After they admitted to each other they caught feelings they ended it, and have not spoken in years. She has privately apologized to the wife in 2021.
When people are treated as objects to serve the relationship instead of living as normal people who will grow apart from said relationship - they WILL learn methods of doing bad stuff behind others back. Y'all who's invested in these relationships are the sole reason why they did this eventually.
ain’t no way people are defending leslie😂 edit: idc if people are saying this happened years ago, many of the people who are being cancelled nowadays are being cancelled because of things that happened MANY years ago💀 it doesn’t change the fact that what she did was wrong.
I wouldn’t defend, but I’d take note that she is getting more hate than Noah. She may have been in a very vulnerable state, but the only victim is his ex-wife.
I’m not defending her actions, but I do understand her. Noah however was married n yet still gets with Leslie. He’s the one who should be getting most of the heat cuz he cheated on her partner. Leslie had no one at the time
@@raijin5733leslie still knew she was hurting someone though, it’s actually INSANE that someone could just be okay with that either way, the only victim is the ex-wife and i hope everyone learns from it.
@@stacia21yup Martina is the true victim. Not Fuslie, not Noah and especially not Lex (who revealed this three year old private matter to the public because he wanted to take everyone down with him).
leslie didnt cheat. but she became the "other" woman to a married man the rabid ones can go ahead with their witch hunt. for me, im not that much invested into these people. i stopped watching wendy and videos with her in it after her whole drama went public. ill be doing the same to leslie. imo i find both actions sad because i actually enjoyed watching wendy and leslie.
As someone who's been the "other guy" I feel like the fact that they just talked and flirted, and never actually fucked, means it's entirely blown out of proportion. Granted I'm not a monogamous minded individual either so I just don't see why she's getting so much shit for owning up to something that ended up being nothing anyway
People cheat because they are unhappy in their relationship or there are things in their relationship missing that they are searching for in other people… it happens and it sucks but that’s just what happens sometimes. And that can be applied to people who are going through their feelings too, shit happens… people do dumb shit especially when they’re unhappy.
if you are unhappy and stuff just broke up with your partner and then you search for what you are missing, there are no excuse for cheating and people should not normalize it!
Wendy cheated on Abe and they were gonna get married then Noah cheated on his wife Leslie knew and still messed wit Noah and behind scene Sh*t WTF IS THE DIFFERENCE EVERYBODY 🤡ATP EVERYBODY GOTTA EGO 💀🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ BUT WHO KNOWS ANYTHING RIGHT HERSAY SH*T MAN IM GONE BRUH 🛫
People are pressed cos theres some kinda double standard. Rae said shes very anti cheater. But yet shes choosing to forgive and forget leslie’s actions.
There is definitely double standard but no one really knows what happened with the abe wendy divorce. We don't know how wendy treated that situation and abe who also is their friend. We don't know if they put effort on saving that marriage or if wendy even acknowledged her mistake
This is so old, it happened 3 years ago lmao. Leslie didn’t do anything wrong. She didn’t cheat. She was in a vulnerable state and got manipulated by Noah. Wendy herself cheated while being married to Abe, different circumstances
Stop trying to make her a victim. She knew what she was doing and consented to having an affair w/ a married man. There is no indication of her being manipulated. There is only one “victim “ in this and it’s def not her but the ex-wife. Tho I agree her and Wendys situation are different.
She is a grown ass woman and knew exactly what kind of situation she was in. Don't try to take the guilt of her back because she DID helped a man cheat.
Two things can be true: (1) Wendy and Leslie's situations are entirely different, and (2) Leslie was in the wrong and fucked up. To say "Leslie didn't do anything wrong" is incredibly naive. Now, should Noah bear the brunt of the blame? Yes. *He* was the one that was married, but it takes two to tango. She said she developed feelings for him and she got involved in someone else's marriage. That's wrong. I've been a Leslie fan for years, so I understand that it might be disappointing to hear that your fave streamer did something shitty, but please...Takes like this sound crazy and parasoial af.
listen, i'm a lesler too and its shocking, but she herself confirmed that she was guilty, she caught feelings while noah was still married and even imagined/reveled at the fact that noah is getting a divorce justifying that they could be together after that manipulated is a strong word, she herself was aware of what she was doing but kept chatting with him anyways,,, im just glad it didnt lead to anything more (if she was being true and said EVERYTHING already) but it was still messy of her,,, i really feel bad for martina
Im sorry, but Noahj is mid asf, so Leslie kinda took an L with that dude. A married man cheating is a massive red flag, and Leslie is awful for doing that, as simple as that.
Should they always take your side and butter you up and call you princess? I'd respect it more if my friends were straight up with me, if you fucked up then own up.
Popular ? No. Becoz more popular = more hate from fans. Rae said their situation is entirely different. With abe and wendy being in friend group, thry couldve tried to fix the marriage. But wendy did something more wrong that they didnt want to give her chance. Like abe said few months ago that he tried his best to keep his marriage bond but in the end, it had to be divorced. Leslie other side caught feelings on a married man when he didnt get divorce. Then after divorce, she felt guilty and stopped talking to him. Still wouldnt accept leslie becoz noah and she both are at fault. Atleast she didnt continue the relationship (we know this part becoz roomies era started in 2022 and then blau became close to them. Noah was never seen in any vid or stream.)
now im curious about Wendy's situation. Rae always emphasize how different the situation was with Wendy. is it the thing Americans do before wedding? they go and have sex party with friends and strangers without their partner knowing coz they justify it like that's the only time they can be freaky and after that they will be loyal to their partner after the wedding? American culture is whack ngl 🤔
I think rae and others wouldve fixed their marriage if wendy just caught feelings of other guy. But she did something worse that made them to jot consider relationship fix but also to block her in twitter etc. And completely cut ties with her. For leslie this doesnt seem to be the case. But we dont know becoz leslie could be lying and hiding if there was deed. Its hard to confirm for rae and friends becoz it happened 3yrs ago. All in all, situation is different. And both deserve the hate. But not equal hate.
y'all need to grow the hell up, people make mistakes... stop acting like you've never been assholes before.... if people cut each other off as soon as they mess up no one would have any friends ever
Wait so Fuslie and the ex wife of Noah talked about it 3 years ago and the ex wife forgave Fuslie? I’m sorry but if the matter have already been resolved 3 years ago what are we doing here, I swear people are addicted to drama dopamine
Ppl just like stirring up drama and judging others
exactly. and to compare it with wendy's situation is too much of a nonsense. bet if rae and other friends knew it at that time, the reaction would be different. but it was in the past and both involved parties had solved the problem, why prolong the drama?
maybe giving Noah and Lesley the treatment that Albert and Sarah got..? even Lesley judged them pretty hard
@@leonkrist Maybe don’t be so invested?
@@Anthween1 I just gave you the answer of what are we doing here ? The same thing that happened in past with Lily situation yall were invested so much back then now thats happening to ur fav streamer words of wisdom coming outta ur mouth 🤷♂️
I dated a girl that was married. We dated for months. I didn’t know she was married but I broke it off immediately when I found out. Just put yourself in the shoes of the person getting cheated on and it’s an easy choice.
Damn that girl was acting like she was unmarried and dated u ? Damn bro. I feel sad u had to go through that. ❤
Well the difference is that Leslie knows he was married
TLDR: She didn't cheat. Still fucked up really bad. They confided in each other about personal stuff even tho he was married. After they admitted to each other they caught feelings they eneded it, and have not spoken in years. She has privately apologized to the wife in 2021.
what the fuck do you mean she didnt cheat ? This whole thing is about it. Stop being delusional
The mere fact that leslie entertained noahj knowing that he is still married is a malicious act itself. Its not termed literal cheating, but her action is just as worse as cheating. Remember this life lesson, cheaters and the person theyre cheating with are only sorry just because they are caught.
@@resipsaloquitur6449 wdym with leslie was only sorry because they were caught where infact leslie apologized to noahs wife way back 2021, bcoz she knew she fucked up. now the issue blew up, she took accountability and addresses the issue to why it happened.
@@resipsaloquitur6449 dude, this was 3 years ago and she didnt get caught. She admitted to the wife directly and apologized then cut contact with the dude.
It was only new to people outside the friendgroup suddenly discovered about this. The people involved already moved on, so dunno why people feel really entitled for her to do more. Its just so dumb
They did more than just confide with themselves she was waiting for 5 months for him to divorce his wife while Leslie and noah were physically and emotionally hooking up 4 5 months
I'm glad she confirms it because there's some tin-foil hat wearing people in this community who still doesn't believe Wendy cheated
Yeah it just so obvious when even Pokimane unfollowed her. Poki is hardcore girls girl, so you know something is really wrong 😂
Honestly I don't know the true story between Wendy and Abe so I don't know who did what or if they did anything at all
The way other people phrase it tho... I'm just on my way to watch Leslie's vod, so take it with with a grain of salt, but from what I read from others she didn't "went after" a married man. She confided to him, MAYBE, maybe 'cuz I still haven't watch the explanation vod, as a friend that understands what he is going through and had gone through it herself. She has also ended a relationship that lasted a long time before the interactions and probably is trying to support Noah as he is planning to undergo the same process. And then they caught feelings and stopped. I don't think people understand how easy it is to catch feelings with friends that you always talk to while in an unstable state. I had a couple of friends I caught feelings because I'm emotionally vulnerable to the point that consistent talking, caring and sweet support can get me attached. It's not right that it was towards a married man, but I think she meant good and started this interaction innocently. It's just she's not mentally and emotionally there to stop herself from falling and made this connection weird. Plus points that she caught herself falling tho, and balancing right back, cut him off, and apologize to the wife for "emotional cheating". Think about how many women/men friends went through that and didn't stop until they stole that person from their partner, now that's definitely cheating, like the full blown kind. Not excusing Leslie's mistakes tho. But a mistake is a mistake. Putting out the fire when it just started is forgivable, feeding twigs on the fire when you realized about it first is different. Now, it'll be different if she actually went for him. Don't go after married men please and go "tests" 'em, it's weird asf and you prolly need therapy for whatever trauma you have to be doing that.
Based on what Rae said, it is both “Cheating” but there are factors that make it different from each other. I don’t know if Fuslie admitting it on stream was better than the other, which was Abe and Wendy keeping it private then, but the latter did leave the people to speculate without confirmation.
And this is the only video that I saw that someone confirmed it, that Wendy did, in fact, cheat.
At the end, it’s sad that this happened again with someone within their friend group.
Bro xqc told wendy cheated on abe before. So he confirmed it before.
@@anonymousgreen5080 I never knew. I only saw Rae’s vid about confirming it. I actually also don’t know how close xqc is to abe that he could confirm then that wendy did actually cheat on abe.
@@armadgedon88 basically abe starts rust servers. We cant take all words of xqc obv becoz once he said hasan and poki are dating which was wrong becoz next day poki streamed with kevin. I think they would probably know what happens in a friend circle. Like he could ask others who are close to abe what actually happened and could keep all detailed info hidden. We dont know exactly as few streamers dont interact online much but they are close friends offstream.
@@armadgedon88 also abe statement was: i tried to fix the relationship. But i couldn't and it had to be done. He said he was living for 40days in ryan's house during the divorce proposal. Wendy not making any useful reason and rae miyoung blocking wendy in twitter but inviting abe to their house and streams probably can say that wendy was doing something worse. So she got distanced.
So it's OK to be friends with home wreckers got cha this is why Valkyrae is a hypocrite her self
These two situations are not even comparable.
Vegetables caught strays for nothing
People seem to forget this happened 3 YEARS AGO.
That doesn't make it better, doesn't make it acceptable, it's gross but she has talked and apologized to THE WIFE.
Who is the only one with the right to be mad at leslie, and not or do forgive her. Her friends know her NOW and won't drop her for something that has healed and that happened 3 years ago. You can disapprove someone's choice, but think about it from their perspective, would you drop your longtime friend for something that happened 3 years ago?
I'm confident that if her friends would've been made aware of the cheating situation, they would've shut it down, or advice her, but it's in the past now so it's incredibly more complicated.
Anyone that did something like this can never be trusted ever
@theblueexorcist8731 she was emotionally vulnerable. If it was someone in there sane mind that did this (aka Wendy) I would be disgusted. Internet are quick to judge people. If anyone that should be mad at Leslie it's Martina.
@@001Tdog that's not excuse you can't be serious lol
@@theblueexorcist8731 Many people need to learn this phrase "When emotions runs high, decisions are low".
@@001Tdog so according to if people just say they are emotionally vulnerable they can do whatever they want lol you taking simping to the next level dude
Honestly Rae, I expected better than you. Broccoli and Asparagus did not deserve this stray. Top 5 veggies hands down.
Broccoli is great, but Asparagus...... I don't know man
Bruh u know she’s into carrots
I cannot get into asparagus 😭 like what is being done wrong that I can’t eat it??
@@vrod9686Brush with butter. Drizzle with olive oil. Salt to taste. Stick in the oven. Enjoy :)
@@vrod9686if you have an air fryer, wash it well and pat dry with a paper towel, drizzle a bit of olive oil and then add your favorite seasoning (i personally use steak seasonings) and then pop it in the air fryer at 365 degrees for 10-12 minutes or until it’s tender. you can do this with the oven as well but i love my air fryer lol
As a long time fan of Leslie I'm so DISAPPOINTED in her too. No biased but both Leslie and NoahJ are at fault here. The only victim here is his wife Martina give her all your support.
As for Wendy and Leslie as Rae said it's different situations. Whether Abe or Wendy talked about it in the future. I'm pretty sure Wendy f*cked up more BTS. That's why she got excommunicated by all her friends except Lily.
Not sure of who fcked up more.. is it the girl who cheated on a rando on EDC or the girl who home wrecked, knew that the guy had a wife but still go for him.. both should get excommunicated actually in my opinion
@@cmloreo3010 You have zero friend for sure
@@Tarbbytheseas and you are friends with your favorite streamer.. oh wait 🤣, she doesn’t know you exist 🤓
@@cmloreo3010 The cheater definitely fucked up more. Especially now that we know that situation was apparently far worse than we thought we knew
@@cmloreo3010 the girl who cheated…was the wife and still did it. The “home wrecker” didnt get physical. She realised her feelings and pulled out of the situation. The situation got resolved 3 yrs ago by all parties involved. Why are you crying as if you were also there when this happened.
imo leslie's actions shouldn't be condoned. but no one should demand certain actions from her or her personal friends. perhaps the ONLY victim in the situation can, but it sounds like they wrapped that up 3 YEARS AGO. if you think leslie's friends not treating her the same way wendy was treated as hypocritical, maybe you should stop watching this friend group and the OTV friend group altogether.
if you are actually defending leslie when you're not her personal friend, maybe think twice about your life choices. because this issue should actually affect how you look at these people
She was obviously in a very emotional place. I know from experience with myself and others, youre not in the right mindset in a time like that. Doesnt excuse what youve done though, whats important is how you handle the consequenses.
For me she handled it well. She sent an aplogy to his ex-wife privately and cut ties with him. She looked genuinely sorry and it looks like she learned from it.
So this is the first time confirm say Wendy were cheating, right?
What else could it be tho?
I think it confirmed that it is more than just cheating
Whether they say it or not Wendy f*cked up more BTS. That's why all her friends excommunicated her except Lily who is forgivable.
@@DioceseofKalookan-kt4nq if I have to take a guess, maybe some form of domestic violence from Wendy was involved as well? I mean I’m only assuming it’s very bad break up cuz the way Rae says it seems like theres something worse happened than just Wendy cheating
@@raijin5733yea what i was thinking as well. This is a HORRIBLE ASSUMPTION but she coulda been manipulative, abusive, threatening self-harm if exposed, etc.
There’s still more reasons to divorce than just cheating. Again this is just a horrible assumption.
This is sad. WE as a whole community that has NOTHING to do with them personally should not be judging and telling their friends to judge them too.
It’s weird and gross. Horrible decisions were made and unfortunately they are public figures, so we all hear about the good and bad. It’s just sad. 😔
off topic but rae looked so so pretty in this stream
She fucked up yes, but people made it way more than it is. She caught feelings for a married man, that’s fucked up, not saying she was a victim, but she was in a vulnerable state, and a man (who was married) came to her, and if you’ve ever been in a relationship and went through a breakup, you’d know how it feels, everyone that’s nice to you would feel like the world. Does it make it right? Hell no, but comparing that to someone who cheated on their husband not that long after their marriage is insane, it’s like comparing someone who shoplifts basic necessary to a bank heist
Istg, they're just overreacting at this point, i mean yes she fucked up but she's a human, she's gonna make mistakes. But she did try to make it right and is remorseful of whatever happened
So I can do whatever I want just say I'm in a vulnerable state lol
@@theblueexorcist8731 damn you have a comprehension level of an avocado lmao, that's impressive
@@virus2339 nah you said vulnerable state=do whatever you want as long as you say you are in a vulnerable state lol
let me paint a picture for you, why she's fcked up.. Marriage can still be saved if there was no third party involved, her validating the feelings of the guy probably sealed the deal for divorce.. If that situation didn't happen, I'm very sure that the couple may have worked things out or maybe not.. he may have cheated with someone else.. But then again, we can all agree that Fuslie was the catalyst for the divorce.
Also the fact that she just ended her engagement a month prior to this and say that she went for the married guy because she's vulnerable... no no no, that's not vulnerability, that's getting a rebound.
I miss Edison, he was a real one
If the wife forgave her and moved on then everyone should do the same. People really do look for drama smh 🤦🏾♀️
It's a messed up situation, but if Fuslie and Martina patch things up, then it should no longer be a public thing.
Wow have I just not watched Rae in a while or does that accent come out when she's stressed? the southern "ah" instead of I, distracted me a bit
Im so confused whats going on.. i thought stuff happened years ago. And recently Ive mostly been watching the good ole days of OTV and only a few new stuff of the now separate group 😮
I feel unless you’ve been in a long term relationship where there is an engagement broken off or marriage problems, you can’t really know exactly what they went through at the time. What was done isnt right but people on the internet have done so much worse. I’m not excusing the actions but I’d like to think that both people involved really learned for the mistake and never let it happen again.
Both of them will never be trusted again in a relationship
@@theblueexorcist8731 well that’s not up to you to decide.
@@Itsklljoyyyes you correct but would you date people who cheats and goes after married people lol
@@theblueexorcist8731 I’m 31 years old. I’ve dated all kinds of people.
Yow, Broccoli are good though...
i was gone for a month and now theres a whole new thing??
Yooo no way she dissed both of my fav vegetables man now I'm sad...
The only victim here is the dude’s ex wife. And as much as I enjoy Rae’s content she was not prepared to bring this up on stream. Not saying she shouldn’t have, but she genuinely said nothing.
This was definitely some fun “drama” as a viewer but anyways, back to not caring about streamer’s personal lives.
Honestly they could have stay quiet on the situation especially if everything is settled already. Look at Will and Caroline, Wills cheating allegations just died down without them talking about it. But some of OTVF are just easily pressured by their stans opinions
I think that was the intention. it's not her place to say anything but if people keep bugging her about it, she's gonna say atleast something to just shut people up
@@aulariah I guess, Rae does get peer pressured by here fans way too easily 💀 they’re only staying friends with Leslie because the one who got hurt isn’t their friend like in Abe and Wendy’s situation. But she never spoke about that one because it wasn’t her place to talk about either. I think Rae needs to wait for her PR before she opens her mouth about drama 💀
@@Milk_Carton11 she was definitely get pressured by their stans since she is so vocal with other peoples drama. Same with Leslie. They like to give opinions. She did not say anything about the abe and wendy drama but it is visible how they supported abe and cut off wendy entirely. And if what she said is true that she only knew this now, she definitely will feel more disappointed especially she is the one who brought leslie to 100t and she knows noah since 2018 (they are the first 2 creators of 100t). Tbh streamers do not have good PR since they are live streaming they can't help to answer their chat
She said a lot. I'm glad she talked about it so she doesn't get pestered with people constantly asking her about it in every stream
TH-camrs really love every drama for the content. Why even talk about it if you don't want to talk about it. Lmao
Who is Rae saying she’s not friends with anymore? Wendy?
but leslie didnt cheat right she was already broken up
Yeah Leslie was already single at this time!
she didn't cheat on edison but she was the "other women" in a cheating situation. she was also knew the whole time that the guy was married. i forgive her either way
She's a home wrecker
@@MrP0lar oh I see she wasn’t cheating but she was kinda home-wrecking but stopped before it got anywhere
@@MrP0larhope someone does same to you and you forgive them
Context plis what happened 😨
Why are we acting like these ppl we watch are infallible. Leslie has done 1% of what so many men on these platforms get away with. The comparisons are so dumb.
Then why are you comparing...? It's up to every individual to decide what people "get away with." The people that support the Logan Pauls or DrDisrespects are probably not fans of Leslie so we can't expect the same responses to the situations even if she did the same things they did.
Her situation is different entirely and she has an entirely different audience and friends to answer to because she decided to do something bad. It is the nature of the beast.
frrr
@@justanotherperson05this is spot on
Bringing gender into this is crazy
The larger and more important difference between leslie and wendy is that leslie hurt some loser called Noah who is not in the friend group whilst Abe is in the friend group. Imagine Leslie hooked up with someone who was part of the friend group in a relationship (John, etc). Rae and the others would dump her immediately no questions asked (because how can you take sides?).
That is a difference, yes. But I don't think that's the larger and more important difference. Especially when Rae confirmed, with permission from Abe, that that situation was far worse, involved a lot more and doesn't compare to this situation at all
No she didnt hurt lose noah. Both of them hurt martina who is innocent. Noah was clearly faking his cry in his apology video. Also we dont know whats exactly with wendy. Rae said "connect the dots". Becoz she cant talk (3rd person) about it and ruin wendy's career. So wendy did worse than leslie on a scale of 1-10. (Dw leslie also is being measured for her crime).
I dont understand. People like to bring up shit that happened years ago. Why not bring it up at the TIME, and not wait til years down the line? So you can witness someone’s downfall? Im not tryna say what leslie did was okay, because it wasnt. But if its such a big deal then why wait til now to bring it up? And to then compare it to the Wendy situation is CRAZY. Not to mention, if the ex wife already forgave her then, shouldnt it be fine now? People only want drama, but they dont even know what happens BTS, so they dont have any room to talk imo
both situations are disgusting she not wrong. but if it happened to my best friend i would distance myself for awhile and then when i miss them i'll talk to them cuz theyre my best friend after all. ok personally if it happened to my best friend and they only told me 2 years later i would forgive them like after a long talk and understanding wtf happened and if my best friend realised and didnt continue the relationship i will not cut ties with them but i'll tease them about it every chance i get 2 years worth of teasing.
"haha remember that time you helped ruin a marriage?" What do you mean "tease?" Lmao
That's not really a joking thing to bring up. If you forgive them that's fine but making jokes about it doesn't sound good at any point.
@@justanotherperson05 i think he meant to expose his friend if she finds any suspicious activity in any of friends meet or parties. 🤔. And they would feel embarrassed and not even try to do one. Becoz steamers often time only date streamers. So their friends meet/parties will be the main way of meeting new ppl and finding feelings.
Anyone have a quick tldr about Leslie and then Wendy and Abe,first time I’m hearing anything about it.
Fuslie didnt cheat (at least as far as i know), Noah123 or whatever is the guy that cheated. Leslie didnt have any commitment to his wife, like sure its a bit shitty but the true problem is the guy, not her. Cheating is an awfull thing, being a lover is like at most just bad (unless you are close to the person who is being cheated on in some way).
Why is anyone stretching the Fuslie situation at all? She didn't actively cheat, or actively help someone cheat. She wrongfully reciprocated feelings but the only active thing she did was choose to cut all contact with him...Her situation literally isn't that deep, stop dragging it
Okay just saw this video and I think i was soooooo freaking late like what happened???? Pls enlightened me.. what happened to leslie? What happened to wendy and abe??? 😢😢
Fuslie was an imposter. Omg.
Personal option rae has no reason to talk about this publicly it a private made that was resolved years ago. Talking about a friend with a sense of repulsive icky feel but rae a massive hypocrite like telling people not to be parasoical which she basically is doing here, i know it a bit different but the concept still applies here. I would like to say i know rae has been cheated on, but this is crossing the line.
People are just people in the end it doesn't matter if you're working at a supermarket or you're a CEO. This kind of thing happens all the time, when you spend a lot of time at work or far from home, the relationship doesn't last.
The only difference between a nobody and a public figure, the later has to deal with insult and probably worse compare to the other case where o'ly family and friends will know.
And people who cheat or go after married people can't ever be trusted ever again
Wendy was the cheater, fuslie was the mistress big difference.
So Basically he put some feelers out testing the waters in the single scene leslie took the bait they went back and forth but they didnt do anything physically it was sorted 3 years ago and now someone threw them under the bus to hush up their own indescretions?
If its done its done people need to remember we only see what we are allowed to see theres thousands of bts we would love to get the tea on but lets face it we dont have the right to that information if people arent sharing it
Fuslie pull her ariana grande card💀💀
Calling the situation disgusting is a bit much. It wasn't ideal or simple. Noah and his wife already had their issues so it was inevitable. Save Fairy tale endings for the Fairy tales.
Dude I thought this was about Leslie not showering again from the video title. Wow, was I wrong!
We got valkyrae before gta 6
both of these relationships i saw as just going thru the motions when they dont really like each other anymore
Damn whats with OTV and their friend group having some awful people in them
Fed, Wendy and now Leslie
"I don't like cheaters unless they're my friends" - Wow that's so brave! LMFAO
@@nicklasr7069 Which of her friends is a cheater?
Me when I lack comprehension
FRRR
U cant understand after watching entire video. 🤦♂️
Didnt watch the vid but are they still friends with leslie or cut her off like wendy??
People think their mad at Leslie but it how they are treating the situation when their friend stance has been so strong on cheaters but what seem to be a pass for Leslie.
something's wrong with your friend circle Rae hahaha
Those who cheat have no honour. Karma waits for no man. Eventually, what hides in the shadows gets revealed in the light.
that's convenient xD
Damn. Cheating issue. When they are not contented in what they had. Imagine others having nothing 😂
What are we doing here
Hello, I'm new and can someone explain what is happening plsss
Fuslie had an affair with a married man, and the actual wife left.
Note: they didn't sleep with each other. Just to make sure it's clear, cause some people spreading false rumors about it.
@davidprates3336 TLDR: She didn't cheat. Still fucked up really bad. They confided in each other about personal stuff even tho he was married. After they admitted to each other they caught feelings they ended it, and have not spoken in years. She has privately apologized to the wife in 2021.
@@nntflow7058 They still had an emotional affair, though. To make that clear too.
@@justanotherperson05 Yes, no doubt. I just hate that everyone started blaming her for Ellum or Blau situation.
Brother this got solved years ago who are you weirdos
When people are treated as objects to serve the relationship instead of living as normal people who will grow apart from said relationship - they WILL learn methods of doing bad stuff behind others back.
Y'all who's invested in these relationships are the sole reason why they did this eventually.
Cheating is Cheating in any under circumstances
❤,
Wow they scrubbed the shit out of the comment section. People were not letting it slide
Is rae hinting this is similar to Wendy's situation?
Edit:okay im gonna shut up...
ain’t no way people are defending leslie😂
edit: idc if people are saying this happened years ago, many of the people who are being cancelled nowadays are being cancelled because of things that happened MANY years ago💀 it doesn’t change the fact that what she did was wrong.
I wouldn’t defend, but I’d take note that she is getting more hate than Noah. She may have been in a very vulnerable state, but the only victim is his ex-wife.
I’m not defending her actions, but I do understand her. Noah however was married n yet still gets with Leslie. He’s the one who should be getting most of the heat cuz he cheated on her partner. Leslie had no one at the time
@@raijin5733leslie still knew she was hurting someone though, it’s actually INSANE that someone could just be okay with that
either way, the only victim is the ex-wife and i hope everyone learns from it.
Both Leslie and NoahJ are at fault. The only victim here is his wife Martina.
@@stacia21yup Martina is the true victim. Not Fuslie, not Noah and especially not Lex (who revealed this three year old private matter to the public because he wanted to take everyone down with him).
leslie didnt cheat. but she became the "other" woman to a married man
the rabid ones can go ahead with their witch hunt. for me, im not that much invested into these people. i stopped watching wendy and videos with her in it after her whole drama went public. ill be doing the same to leslie. imo i find both actions sad because i actually enjoyed watching wendy and leslie.
As someone who's been the "other guy" I feel like the fact that they just talked and flirted, and never actually fucked, means it's entirely blown out of proportion. Granted I'm not a monogamous minded individual either so I just don't see why she's getting so much shit for owning up to something that ended up being nothing anyway
Sus............
People cheat because they are unhappy in their relationship or there are things in their relationship missing that they are searching for in other people… it happens and it sucks but that’s just what happens sometimes. And that can be applied to people who are going through their feelings too, shit happens… people do dumb shit especially when they’re unhappy.
Then tell your first partner that you are unhappy and brokeup with them and then start seeing other people
if you are unhappy and stuff just broke up with your partner and then you search for what you are missing, there are no excuse for cheating and people should not normalize it!
@@nunixm tell everyone u never dated without telling everyone LMAFO!
@@mewvs welp thats wat ur parents said to but look wat happen here. they decide to keep u and stay together LMAFO!
@@liloc tell everyone u are a cheater without telling everyone that you have cheated LMAFO!
Wendy cheated on Abe and they were gonna get married then Noah cheated on his wife Leslie knew and still messed wit Noah and behind scene Sh*t WTF IS THE DIFFERENCE EVERYBODY 🤡ATP EVERYBODY GOTTA EGO 💀🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ BUT WHO KNOWS ANYTHING RIGHT HERSAY SH*T MAN IM GONE BRUH 🛫
Fuslie the homewrecker
People are pressed cos theres some kinda double standard. Rae said shes very anti cheater. But yet shes choosing to forgive and forget leslie’s actions.
Because Leslie didn’t cheat on anyone. She was single at the time, dealing with an emotional break up. She’s technically a mistress.
@@raijin5733 lmao shes “the other woman”
Hes a passport bro 🫣
@@raijin5733She’s an adulterer which is terrible.
There is definitely double standard but no one really knows what happened with the abe wendy divorce. We don't know how wendy treated that situation and abe who also is their friend. We don't know if they put effort on saving that marriage or if wendy even acknowledged her mistake
@@jasonstein460they didn’t even do any adultering.. they just caught feelings and then cut contact no?
This is so old, it happened 3 years ago lmao. Leslie didn’t do anything wrong. She didn’t cheat. She was in a vulnerable state and got manipulated by Noah.
Wendy herself cheated while being married to Abe, different circumstances
Stop trying to make her a victim. She knew what she was doing and consented to having an affair w/ a married man. There is no indication of her being manipulated. There is only one “victim “ in this and it’s def not her but the ex-wife.
Tho I agree her and Wendys situation are different.
She is a grown ass woman and knew exactly what kind of situation she was in. Don't try to take the guilt of her back because she DID helped a man cheat.
Two things can be true: (1) Wendy and Leslie's situations are entirely different, and (2) Leslie was in the wrong and fucked up. To say "Leslie didn't do anything wrong" is incredibly naive. Now, should Noah bear the brunt of the blame? Yes. *He* was the one that was married, but it takes two to tango. She said she developed feelings for him and she got involved in someone else's marriage. That's wrong. I've been a Leslie fan for years, so I understand that it might be disappointing to hear that your fave streamer did something shitty, but please...Takes like this sound crazy and parasoial af.
Manipulated? Nah
listen, i'm a lesler too and its shocking, but she herself confirmed that she was guilty, she caught feelings while noah was still married and even imagined/reveled at the fact that noah is getting a divorce justifying that they could be together after that
manipulated is a strong word, she herself was aware of what she was doing but kept chatting with him anyways,,, im just glad it didnt lead to anything more (if she was being true and said EVERYTHING already) but it was still messy of her,,, i really feel bad for martina
Im sorry, but Noahj is mid asf, so Leslie kinda took an L with that dude. A married man cheating is a massive red flag, and Leslie is awful for doing that, as simple as that.
If my friends publicly called me disgusting after I made a mistake, I would definitely reconsider who I surround myself with.
Should they always take your side and butter you up and call you princess? I'd respect it more if my friends were straight up with me, if you fucked up then own up.
They are calling her actions disgusting not her herself
Bro, if you only want people who praise you regardless of what you do, they are not your friends.
So u want paid friends is what u mean ? Becoz i wouldnt trust those ppl if they made me not realise my mistakes.
Leslie is more popular thats why shes not going to be treated like that
Popular ? No. Becoz more popular = more hate from fans. Rae said their situation is entirely different. With abe and wendy being in friend group, thry couldve tried to fix the marriage. But wendy did something more wrong that they didnt want to give her chance. Like abe said few months ago that he tried his best to keep his marriage bond but in the end, it had to be divorced. Leslie other side caught feelings on a married man when he didnt get divorce. Then after divorce, she felt guilty and stopped talking to him. Still wouldnt accept leslie becoz noah and she both are at fault. Atleast she didnt continue the relationship (we know this part becoz roomies era started in 2022 and then blau became close to them. Noah was never seen in any vid or stream.)
now im curious about Wendy's situation. Rae always emphasize how different the situation was with Wendy. is it the thing Americans do before wedding? they go and have sex party with friends and strangers without their partner knowing coz they justify it like that's the only time they can be freaky and after that they will be loyal to their partner after the wedding? American culture is whack ngl 🤔
I think rae and others wouldve fixed their marriage if wendy just caught feelings of other guy. But she did something worse that made them to jot consider relationship fix but also to block her in twitter etc. And completely cut ties with her. For leslie this doesnt seem to be the case. But we dont know becoz leslie could be lying and hiding if there was deed. Its hard to confirm for rae and friends becoz it happened 3yrs ago. All in all, situation is different. And both deserve the hate. But not equal hate.
y'all need to grow the hell up, people make mistakes... stop acting like you've never been assholes before.... if people cut each other off as soon as they mess up no one would have any friends ever
2 cheaters and a scammer
What rae is scammer ? Bruh.
I love her, I hope I marry her some day, but sometimes you’re just talking out your a**
Cringe
…. What
Why do yall care so much what she did let her cheat she a grown woman yall weird af people