Thank you for for this update on the court case. I was an elder for 21 years, no longer a jw i faded. That elder lied so badly it horrible.. Keep up the info My daughter dissociated Dec 2024 and has been totally shunned. It's sickening what the jw org does for money.
Yes, and the fact that they condone sexual abuse against children in their congregations makes them complicit in this crime, like aiding and abetting it
Also there is a fine line between shunning and "MARKING " , which used to be directed from the platform towards a specific individual; Now, the direction is for this to be carried out by brothers & sisters individually deciding to "MARK" a person , probably to avoid any blow-back on the society in case of being sued or it contributing to someones suicide or similar.
Thank you 😊 for this next episode from Australia again. Left 2020 at 80years old born in . My brother and wife are in Finland stopped ✋️ speaking immediately also cousin living nearby does not speak.anc 2 daughters and family plus all witnesses shunndd me. Left due to teachings i knew werecwrong . Only saw ex jw videos after I left . ❤thank you so much .
Really sad isn't it? A friend of mine was "counselled" by 2 elders for going with her DF husband to their 40th Wedding anniversary party that their DF daughter had arranged for them 🙄 Crying her eyes out she was 😳
Wow. So basically they are lying in that court. I have thought about it, I am no expert, but I just can't see the Org. winning this one. Just can't see it.
O-M-G! You have come to understand all their tactics and shenanigans. Your so spot on. They can say hello, that’s it now to a disfellowship. This why I’m disassociating this month. It’s more to do with their constant deception, than failed prophecies and such, or their incredibly convoluted teachings, which are reasons enough. They think of themselves in these situations as adhering to Matt 10: 16. But the admonition is to be cautious as serpents, not become a sneaky serpent, and we all know there not innocent as doves, by a long shot. But you nailed it with the theocratic warfare nonsense they invented for these events. They have always been master word-smiths from the beginning with Russell. Mostly these days I try not to view videos concerning them, so i won’t have a stroke 🤯 or something. But every once in a while I will watch, just to remind myself I made the right decision. Thanks bro!👍
@Joel-r4u2b well done for waking up and seeing through the hypocrisy of WT and the GB. When Jeffrey Winder said they're neither inspired nor infallible and can make errors in their teachings, which they place the blame on Jehovah for giving them false information 😂😂🤣, (and is why an apology is not required) that statement alone should've woken up every single JW in the world.
My husband and I left for the same reason. Bible prophecy or failed prophecy or Bible content were not a part of why we left either. Got sick of feeling shamed, used, fearmongered and told how to think, who to talk to, what to not read online, vaccine pushing, judging others, shunning and then we stumbled onto the food boxe deception during the pandemic and the covered up CSA and were completely disgusted.
Thank u Sven woke up March 2024 sent disassociation letter Jan 3 2025 after months of studying my indoctrination out of my head. We took our stand for the Lord Jesus Christ against WT. WT = 👖 on 🔥
I was a JW and told I can not say Prayers because I remarried, I asked is it the man or Jesus in who's name we pray. Treated like a dog never going back both my sons don't talk to me . What happened to honor your father and mother- Not with JW org
It hardly matters what a woman says. She doesn’t have the facts supporting her. She’s under the rules of the Shepherding book she’s not permitted to read. She’s misinformed.
Jeder Zeuge verfügt über die Fakten. Du findest diese in den Schriften, Videos. Man hört sie in den Vorträgen auf der Kongressen und Meetings und wirst bei persönlichen Gesprächen von Ältesten darauf hingewiesen.
@@shiftyourmindset2And they get away with domestic abuse too. The times I was told. ‘He’ll change when he gets the truth more ‘… He didn’t. Or ‘leave it to Jehovah ‘. Nothing changed. I put up with his cxxx for 24 years. As soon as my youngest was 16 I went into a battered wives home and divorced. They helped more than the JWs ever did.
Governing body will have to come up with some sort of plan here as they get cornered more and more. My husband cracked me up, saying maybe they will do their monthly broadcasts one day by the helpers saying the GB got taken up to heaven and disappeared (as they grab the loot and run). They could just tell the members that the tribulation is happening. Maybe show a video of 11 sets of suit clothes laying on the floor as all they found of them after they disappeared. Then tell the members to grab their go bags and be ready! 😅
Because some JWs do not get the full force of JWs GB rules, there is usually a reason. It does not mean that others who break their rules are not subject to the full shunning as per the instructions from their GB.
Sven, elders can talk to df people. Thsts why he got to testify because of that loop hole. Also i was told years ago if you find a df in the ministry you can ask if they want to speak to an elder, we can encourage to come to hall and we can give literature. So not a big deal change. Its only at hall that we can speak to instead of egnoring them. I got that from brothers out in service. The shunning is still real.
This is true. My husband used to greet disfellowshipped ones and he was so smug about how he had already been doing that when they allowed witnesses to use their "conscious" to decide whether to greet them.
That elder who lied before the court in Norway should be fined and/or imprisoned for perjury. When you get called to appear in court to testify, you are required to take an oath in most cases, and once you take the oath you should tell the truth, and nothing but the truth. If you lie, you will be charged not only with perjury but with obstruction of justice as well. Perjury is a serious offense because it undermines the basic foundation of justice, which is fairness, honesty, and trust. Thank you for exposing this crime of perjury.
They lie to the extent that the truth is probably the exact opposite of what they say. I knew a George Brown back in the 1980s he was a university lecturer. 😊 Every time I see a comment from you I think can't be.
They have done this many, many times in courtrooms all over the world, with a large concentration in the states. They call it “theocratic warfare “, and claim that the court doesn’t deserve honesty, and don’t deserve to know the truth. Protect the jw name no matter what. Criminals, corrupt lying hypocrites. That cult has no shame. Great video! Thank you! 🫶🏻
My husband cut off contact with my parents over a few sentences he overheard between us in a phone conversation. My mom isn't df'd or anything. He's so holy🤣
Theres nothing holy about your husbands behaviour, certainly not following the teachings of Christ Jesus.The damage they do sometimes cannot be repaired.
We exJW's are hoping Donald Trump will look into WT losing their tax exemption and look into CSA coverups, after receiving the "operation Spotlight" letters that's have been sent by the exJW community from around the world. If you don't know anything about this worldwide letter campaign, please watch Jimmy Bells latest videos.
The watchtower was pretty explicit on direction on how to treat df ones, expecially df family members. So, I shunned my sister for 40 years because she got df at 16.
And when there was a gun on Malawi and Germany brothers head, they stand firm! Bravo!! All of this sad facts are used by GB to make publicity for the cult. Shame on you Governing body
These are words she doesnt even understand. She has been instruced from start to end. The average is far to basic. The ammount of books and podcast I had to go through to upgrade my lanuage is staggering.
@@shiftyourmindset2 yes I know, but if they loose again and are deregistered will they loose the no tax status. If so this may be why they are fighting because it sets them up to loose around the world and it will be easier to do it.
@joanjohnson5973 We exJW's are hoping Donald Trump will look into WT losing their tax exemption and look into CSA coverups, after receiving the "operation Spotlight" letters that's have been sent by the exJW community from around the world. If you don't know anything about this worldwide letter campaign, please watch Jimmy Bells latest videos.
@joanjohnson5973 and trying to get re-registered brings more negative attention to themselves that could go against their favour, especially if they lose out a second time.
Thank you for for this update on the court case. I was an elder for 21 years, no longer a jw i faded. That elder lied so badly it horrible..
Keep up the info
My daughter dissociated Dec 2024 and has been totally shunned. It's sickening what the jw org does for money.
all the best for you daughter. She is a brave woman
Oh, they'll shun you for free, and they love it.
So thankful your daughter is away from the cult.
Maybe he has been told that the court doesn't deserve the truth. In his head, therfore, he is a good jehovah's witness.
Theocratic warfare in action 🤦♀️
Same with Muslims, they are also encouraged to lie for their false religion.
There will be no crime, no lie, no false teaching that a true worshipper of the Governing Body couldn’t excuse.
Yes, and the fact that they condone sexual abuse against children in their congregations makes them complicit in this crime, like aiding and abetting it
Sadly, that is true.
SHUNNING goes on in varing degrees , even if a person is NOT disfellowshipped or Dis-associated. !!!!!!
Also there is a fine line between shunning and "MARKING " , which used to be directed from the platform towards a specific
individual; Now, the direction is for this to be carried out by brothers & sisters individually deciding to "MARK" a person ,
probably to avoid any blow-back on the society in case of being sued or it contributing to someones suicide or similar.
very good one. marking is also a sign of : we gave up on you:)
I love this guy....his words are words of truth and he is worth knowing. TY so much😊
love you 2 :) your welcome
You're doing a great job reporting thank you❤
Thank you 😊 for this next episode from Australia again. Left 2020 at 80years old born in . My brother and wife are in Finland stopped ✋️ speaking immediately also cousin living nearby does not speak.anc 2 daughters and family plus all witnesses shunndd me. Left due to teachings i knew werecwrong . Only saw ex jw videos after I left . ❤thank you so much .
wow brave woman, leaving at 80 years old. enjoy your freedom:)
Your a brave person, good luck ❤
I bet you have learned more in a month in exJW TH-cam sites than a year at the kingdom hall 😮 ?
As a long time elder , I had to remove a longtime pioneer from pioneering because she was visiting her disfellowshiped daughter
What a lot of BS
@@wallyparachnowitsch324 yes and now elders say there is no guideline how to engage with disfellowshipped people🤣🤣🤣
@@shiftyourmindset2 how pathtic
Really sad isn't it? A friend of mine was "counselled" by 2 elders for going with her DF husband to their 40th Wedding anniversary party that their DF daughter had arranged for them 🙄 Crying her eyes out she was 😳
Wow. So basically they are lying in that court. I have thought about it, I am no expert, but I just can't see the Org. winning this one. Just can't see it.
Thanks for the updates!
You are right. At the end you said don't put your trust in men. Peter said that. Thanks for the upload
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O-M-G! You have come to understand all their tactics and shenanigans. Your so spot on. They can say hello, that’s it now to a disfellowship. This why I’m disassociating this month. It’s more to do with their constant deception, than failed prophecies and such, or their incredibly convoluted teachings, which are reasons enough. They think of themselves in these situations as adhering to Matt 10: 16. But the admonition is to be cautious as serpents, not become a sneaky serpent, and we all know there not innocent as doves, by a long shot. But you nailed it with the theocratic warfare nonsense they invented for these events. They have always been master word-smiths from the beginning with Russell. Mostly these days I try not to view videos concerning them, so i won’t have a stroke 🤯 or something. But every once in a while I will watch, just to remind myself I made the right decision. Thanks bro!👍
@Joel-r4u2b well done for waking up and seeing through the hypocrisy of WT and the GB. When Jeffrey Winder said they're neither inspired nor infallible and can make errors in their teachings, which they place the blame on Jehovah for giving them false information 😂😂🤣, (and is why an apology is not required) that statement alone should've woken up every single JW in the world.
My husband and I left for the same reason. Bible prophecy or failed prophecy or Bible content were not a part of why we left either. Got sick of feeling shamed, used, fearmongered and told how to think, who to talk to, what to not read online, vaccine pushing, judging others, shunning and then we stumbled onto the food boxe deception during the pandemic and the covered up CSA and were completely disgusted.
you made the right decision and never forget how proud i am of you making a courageous decision
❤️ thamk you
Nice work !!
They’re told it’s ok to lie to the “superior authorities”went it’s “spiritual warfare” that they are involved in. So hypocritical 😣
I'm glued to your series on Norway.
Thank u Sven woke up March 2024 sent disassociation letter Jan 3 2025 after months of studying my indoctrination out of my head. We took our stand for the Lord Jesus Christ against WT. WT = 👖 on 🔥
Congratulations on your exit. Jesus is the Way!
THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL
I was a JW and told I can not say Prayers because I remarried, I asked is it the man or Jesus in who's name we pray. Treated like a dog never going back both my sons don't talk to me . What happened to honor your father and mother- Not with JW org
shame that you had to experience that
It hardly matters what a woman says. She doesn’t have the facts supporting her. She’s under the rules of the Shepherding book she’s not permitted to read. She’s misinformed.
and she is falling into the wt trap
Jeder Zeuge verfügt über die Fakten. Du findest diese in den Schriften, Videos. Man hört sie in den Vorträgen auf der Kongressen und Meetings und wirst bei persönlichen Gesprächen von Ältesten darauf hingewiesen.
@@christinemayer182 What! Can you please type in english?
@@christinemayer182absolutely they don't need the elders secret book but that book sheds more light on the subject if only their determination.
@@shiftyourmindset2And they get away with domestic abuse too. The times I was told. ‘He’ll change when he gets the truth more ‘… He didn’t.
Or ‘leave it to Jehovah ‘. Nothing changed.
I put up with his cxxx for 24 years. As soon as my youngest was 16 I went into a battered wives home and divorced. They helped more than the JWs ever did.
"It felt like a kiss."
I hope the court will allow an expert to testify about battered woman syndrome.
Great job God bless ❤you
Governing body will have to come up with some sort of plan here as they get cornered more and more. My husband cracked me up, saying maybe they will do their monthly broadcasts one day by the helpers saying the GB got taken up to heaven and disappeared (as they grab the loot and run). They could just tell the members that the tribulation is happening. Maybe show a video of 11 sets of suit clothes laying on the floor as all they found of them after they disappeared. Then tell the members to grab their go bags and be ready! 😅
This can actually happen. At this point in time, anything is possible now. The end of the Watchtower is at hand.
run with the money. let people think they went to heaven but in reality sipping margerita's on a island somewhere
I love your plan!! ❤😂
Because some JWs do not get the full force of JWs GB rules, there is usually a reason. It does not mean that others who break their rules are not subject to the full shunning as per the instructions from their GB.
Sven, elders can talk to df people. Thsts why he got to testify because of that loop hole. Also i was told years ago if you find a df in the ministry you can ask if they want to speak to an elder, we can encourage to come to hall and we can give literature. So not a big deal change. Its only at hall that we can speak to instead of egnoring them. I got that from brothers out in service. The shunning is still real.
yes but to get them back. not social talk. ray franz is disfellwshopped because he saw his brother i believe... so there is no loophole in reality...
@@shiftyourmindset2 thats how it is supposed to be. But behind closed doors....(love the elipsis.lol)
@joanjohnson5973 there's no hope for apostates. They're in a class of their own....shunned till cows come home.
This is true. My husband used to greet disfellowshipped ones and he was so smug about how he had already been doing that when they allowed witnesses to use their "conscious" to decide whether to greet them.
@@heathergriggs4463 ''when they allowed witnesses to use their "conscious"
Allowd them, really,bit of a Red-Flag there.
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That elder who lied before the court in Norway should be fined and/or imprisoned for perjury. When you get called to appear in court to testify, you are required to take an oath in most cases, and once you take the oath you should tell the truth, and nothing but the truth. If you lie, you will be charged not only with perjury but with obstruction of justice as well. Perjury is a serious offense because it undermines the basic foundation of justice, which is fairness, honesty, and trust. Thank you for exposing this crime of perjury.
Also, God hates lying, as Proverbs 6:16-19 tells us.
They lie to the extent that the truth is probably the exact opposite of what they say.
I knew a George Brown back in the 1980s he was a university lecturer. 😊 Every time I see a comment from you I think can't be.
@@georgebrown8312 Liars do not inherit Gods Kingdom.
They have done this many, many times in courtrooms all over the world, with a large concentration in the states. They call it “theocratic warfare “, and claim that the court doesn’t deserve honesty, and don’t deserve to know the truth. Protect the jw name no matter what. Criminals, corrupt lying hypocrites. That cult has no shame. Great video! Thank you! 🫶🏻
Right on. It's all about specific words which they call 'theocratic warfare' is the name of the game.
My husband cut off contact with my parents over a few sentences he overheard between us in a phone conversation. My mom isn't df'd or anything. He's so holy🤣
Theres nothing holy about your husbands behaviour, certainly not following the teachings of Christ Jesus.The damage they do sometimes cannot be repaired.
We exJW's are hoping Donald Trump will look into WT losing their tax exemption and look into CSA coverups, after receiving the "operation Spotlight" letters that's have been sent by the exJW community from around the world. If you don't know anything about this worldwide letter campaign, please watch Jimmy Bells latest videos.
I hope the judge and Jury can see through the elder that he's lying through his teeth.
i think they see right through it
A good question would be 'But that isn't what it says in your secret instruction manual, is it?'
I have had two family members who were disfellowshipped and nobody ever told me anything about what kind of contact I should or should not have.
The watchtower was pretty explicit on direction on how to treat df ones, expecially df family members. So, I shunned my sister for 40 years because she got df at 16.
Thank you so much Sven to keeping us informed about these court proceedings. Youre videos really help me with my confidence .
And when there was a gun on Malawi and Germany brothers head, they stand firm! Bravo!! All of this sad facts are used by GB to make publicity for the cult. Shame on you Governing body
HalaluYAH ❤YaDah YaHUaH in-DEED
These are words she doesnt even understand. She has been instruced from start to end. The average is far to basic. The ammount of books and podcast I had to go through to upgrade my lanuage is staggering.
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Thaks, young man
Swen ik word er kotsmisselijk van ik sta letterlijk te koken van woede. Ik hoop echt dat er ex getuigen mogen getuigen tegen deze organisatie.
Is this all over loosing tax exemption for donated funds? Does anyone know about that standing if they loose this government funding?
they lost their funding so this is the appeal against loosing funding
@@shiftyourmindset2 yes I know, but if they loose again and are deregistered will they loose the no tax status. If so this may be why they are fighting because it sets them up to loose around the world and it will be easier to do it.
@joanjohnson5973 We exJW's are hoping Donald Trump will look into WT losing their tax exemption and look into CSA coverups, after receiving the "operation Spotlight" letters that's have been sent by the exJW community from around the world. If you don't know anything about this worldwide letter campaign, please watch Jimmy Bells latest videos.
@joanjohnson5973 and trying to get re-registered brings more negative attention to themselves that could go against their favour, especially if they lose out a second time.
Hey people ....its theocratic lying .....God approves 😂😂
Where can I watch the court trials?
Hi 👋🏻
Hello 👋
Last time i checked you have to qualify for grants, try this on a bank. I hope the state has some real wittnesses.
yes with a loan or a funding there are rules. not obeying them is loosing funding
Look like YOU have nothing more TO DO
i have but i have also priorities:)