You clearly have didn’t watch the first 2 seasons this video is dumb and don’t understand the bear and the aim has always been the characters if yall to dumb to understand that I don’t know what to tell you
What I can’t understand is why and how Syd/Carmy shippers are so delusional. It was obvious from the start that Syd and Carmy are platonic soul mates. Nothing more.
16:04 oh CLOCK ITTTTT. I am expected to be up in arms about Claire MISUNDERSTANDING Carmy’s breakdown. He was bashing HIMSELF. TINA heard the beginning of his rant and keep in mind Mikey’s been dead less than two years at this point…and I’m supposed to gaf that Claire who didn’t respect his boundaries in S2 and went looking for his number, who seems to have such a handle on her life and career that she can go gallivanting around Chicago at random times…has her feelings hurt…when Carmen is bashing HIMSELF?? Like YOU said ily in your voicemail but now won’t even clear the air with him OR his insane family that we are reminded every 15 minutes that you know?? My major gripe from s2 was how in their haste to shut the sydcarmy shippers up, they separated the most important and fascinating dynamic in the show. And from then on the show has suffered. You don’t have to be a shipper to admit that as the seasons move, Carmy’s most important relationship shifts from Mikey to Sydney because she is someone he always wanted at The Beef/The Bear: a collaborator who gets his language. Sydney being as good as she is allows him to go to Al Anon and work on his relationship with Nat. And Carmen initially collaborating with Sydney gave her something I don’t think she’s ever had in a professional kitchen: trust. And that helps her confidence in herself grow. Their push and pull that is born not out of loyalty to a dead brother/boss/family friend, but because they see the world in the same way and WANT to work together…but a few internet people liking the chemistry and seeing a potential romance has the writers (it was actually only Chris writing this season) scrambling to overcorrect using Claire to his show’s detriment
I hate Claire with a passion lol. I know it's not her fault but the way she is so shoehorned in makes it unbearable. Carmy didn't even like her to that degree and now he's obsessed? This season felt like filler
I agree with everything. The only highlight for me was seeing the staff at ‘Ever’ again. Other than that they seem to be dimming everyone’s light just so the Claire storyline can happen. As if they thought if we put enough distance between Carmy and Sydney it will make his chemistry with Claire look better by comparison. Where was the found family, commentary on trauma, and the humor that was so charming. All of it gone for some lackluster side plot that should’ve been buried with Season 2. Bad season but great video.
@@MelisaManaseAgreed. But what is so frustrating is that we were forced to sit through the Claire show round 2. Please writers it’s a dead storyline let’s move on.
I agree with you about how great it was seeing everyone from Ever again. I also liked seeing Chef Luca. And I totally think they deliberately separated Carmy and Sydney to tamp down on all the shipper speculation. Supposedly, Jeremy doesn't want that ship to sail either (although I'd guess if that's the difference between the show's continued success and not, he'd get over it). But maybe since he doesn't want it and Christopher doesn't either, they just deliberately tried to provide as little fuel for that fire as possible?
Perfect. You hit it out of the park with your very first sentence. "For a show that says 'Every second counts' it somehow managed to waste every single one. Chef's kiss.
One other thing I haven't heard anyone mention is how Natalie turned into a naive child when it came time to give birth. I kept yelling 9-1-1, if you can't reach anyone else and you're in trouble, call 9-1-1. Calling mom felt so forced. And then it was like Sugar had never gone to a single class, or read a single book. I get that they wanted to show how her mom had traumatized her, but god, it all just felt so forced!
I feel like in separating Sydney and Carmy into their own disparate but parallel storylines, they forgot that the most dynamic relationship (romantic or not) on the show is Carmy and Syd's. They're the most important characters on the show and their relationship is the most important one.... Richie and Carmy's being a close second. The three of them are the BIG 3 (to steal from This Is Us) and this season, unfortunately, they spent a whole lot of time depriving us of their interpersonal dynamics to take the air out of the Carmy/Syd shippers sails to the detriment of the rest of the story. Claire was just not that important, even metaphorically, to have as much time dedicated to her and her relationship with Carmy as they did. Which is unfortunate because they handicapped the narrative of the show (whether you're a shipper or not, you can't deny that) just to make her character important unduly. As a result, we got minimal Carmy/Syd, very little Syd/Richie, and then all the Carmy/Richie was about them nonsensically arguing over Claire. Make it make sense. This season wasn't terrible but it was entirely an unforced error. In trying to hobble a small but vocal minority of shippers (while let's be real, still heavily pandering to them and baiting them) they threw a spanner into the entire internal engine of the season...robbing the show of all its forward momentum and steam. Which is a damn shame. I hope they right the boat in time for season four.
I feel so pandered to as a shipper and it makes me feel sick. That actually pissed me off more than the actual show and now im over Sydcarmy a bit. Ayo and Jeremy are literally next to each other in all promotional material but when you click on interviews they're not even in the same room for press.
It's so strange because they shot it to imply a romantic chemistry between them in the previous season. I didn't even want them to get together and was initially annoyed when they did that but the more it went on, the more I began to like the idea of it because they made it seem so endearing. Now in S3 they cut it all off, maybe they wanted to mirror the dysfunctionality in their relationship to the dysfunctionality in their kitchen but even then it just doesn't click fully. You can tell this season was written during the writers strike. 😂
If Chris Storer doesn't want Sydney and Carmy to happen, then fine (I didn't care either way knowing how much of a problem people seem to have with Black female characters), but forcing a boring character that a lot of people either don't like or aren't connected to, to have more screen time, is not a good move. I don't find the Faks funny either. Reviews for this season have been lukewarm.
i 100% agree with everything you’ve said. I have been full sydcarmy the entire time and I would like Claire to kindly sod off and go have her own story somewhere else, blandly sweet as she is. I cannot believe she was featured and mentioned so heavily this season, I really thought she had a strong exit at the end of last season.
I’m so tired of Claire. Like leave her alone. If anything, Claire’s purpose is revealing to Carmy his flaws and his improving moving forward. She don’t need to be here anymore 😂
I feel like they are forcing Clair on the audience to silence us SydCarmy shippers. Like damn it's not that serious ! Don't ruin the show in trying to prove us wrong.
That’s your bias talking. The show is just as great as ever, but your ship was sunk so all of a sudden the show is crap to you. The thing is, they never promised you guys anything. In fact, it was plain as day that Syd and Carmy are just meant to be great friends. If anything, they were pushing for Syd/Marcus, and I still think that might happen somewhere down the line.
@@IndieCindy3 You don’t have to ship Sydney and Carmy but I wish you guys would drop Sydney and Marcus getting together lol. She rejected him twice already, if anything they are most likely going to have Sydney and Luca get together next season
@@misskayelizabethdee I feel like this season was thin in general like they only had 4-5 episodes worth of content stretched out to 10. Like the Claire storyline is the same place it was on the last episode of season 2 , nothing happened. Why is Claire then featured in season 3? The Faks also got way too much screen time they changed from being comedic relief to being annoying. The conversation felt like they were just going round and round in circles. It was a weak season in my opinion.
the most jarring thing about season 3 for me was how all the characters blended together in the background to revolve around carmy and the ghost of claire's plot i kept thinking "sugar would say this, syd would do that, richie would be like this, where are the tina and syd talks?" also, where were the "sorry" sign language moments? it just FELL OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH; it was jarring how disconnected s3 felt from s2 i understand that carmy feels like a different person and is changed, but why has everyone else lost their spice? sugar lost her brother too and she's pregnant, why is she rolling over??? wtf is GOING ON lmao it truly felt like sydney went from co-main character in s2 to secondary character in s3 and i was like????? excuse me, that's not what it looked like AT ALL from the promo and the marketing!! it was very disappointing and out of everything carmy has EVER DONE in this show, hurting claire's feelings doesn't even get top 5, so i'm sorry if idgaf lmao i hope they fix and rewrite whatever they have for season 4, cause this is ridiculous
the crazy thing is: i started watching the bear and by season 1, i was not shipping them at all i thought "people are crazy for shipping sydcarmy, that's insane, they would never work" by season 2, their relationship grew so fast and it was all there, on the screen, i understood! they have the best dynamic in the show
I remember nothing about this season. And i literally just watched it. Nothing was memorable outside of the Tina episode or the Natalie Birth episode. Also, way too much Faks.
i think the producers just got GREEDY. everyone knows the second season is even better than the first, yet the first season won every single award you could think of. the second season hasnt been eligible for an award season yet. they knew they would get the same awards if not more for season 2. thats why they produced season 3 and 4 back to back. which means they wrote and produces 20 episodes in the same time that they used to write and produce 8 episodes .... AND IT SHOWS. the show has good moments, but so much slow and uninformative fluff. it could have been 5 brilliant episodes, but now their greed let them to stretch it into 10 good episodes with occasional greatness.
So...wow. I love how you break things down. I binged S3 Wednesday night and I actually loved episode 1. Around ep 5 I had a horrifying thought, which was "I don't think I like this season". To me that nearly impossible. I was looking forward to psycho Carmy, the conflicts between him and everyone else reaching a climax and being resolved or resulting in a break up, and more character development of Syd, Richie, Marcus, Tina, and Natalie. I wanted to meet the baby and see how Carmy processed being an uncle. I expected clear Claire resolution at some point even if they got back together. Sydney had two very strong seasons so most of all I wanted to see her growth. The only crumb I had faith in from Syd and Carmy was a big, tense fight. But they just died quietly...There was Ep1 and just a few other hints of their partnership being meaningful, regardless of romance being part of it or not. They barely spoke to each other and that hurt. Same for Richie and Carmy. It was shocking that they took the two most interesting relationships and sidelined them in favor of the boring Claire flashbacks and those stupid Faks. Even Richie, the fan favorite of their white male audience, had a slow, pitiful arch. I am in shock. As far as Sydcarmy, despite the careful building of so many "soulmate" details and casting two actors with special chemistry, I'm not all that surprised if they don't happen. Chris Storer is the leader of The Bear, and Joana was off working on another project for S3. She only wrote and directed Ep 8. Chris's vision might be writing "The Great American Platonic Love Story" with Sydney as Carmy's Sidney Portier. In the 1950-60's in he played the "Black Jesus" prototype, the safe, asexual, black man who rescued white people. I love Sidney Portier btw. Anyways, S3 was mostly about setting up S4 and it suffered for that. I think each season should be a cohesive work that people can enjoy without the context of prior or upcoming seasons.
I agree with almost everything except for the Tina episode slander. It was really cool to see her backstory, and seeing mikey was really (beautiful? Sad? Painful? Not sure). Plus that one actually had bear family characters do stuff, minimal faks and a resolved plot line.
“why am i even in your mouth” had me crying laughing. i got distracted staring at the details of their faces. i really agree with what you said about all the missed opportunities. it literally just made me think about what it could have been. there was so much potential. and the hospital would have been the perfect scene to get our first interaction between carmy and donna since michael died! WHY were the faks there instead???? who made that decision????
I had to forward thru that episode 4-5 minute Carmy-Claire scene, they are so boring with no chemistry! Why, oh why do they keep force feeding us this relationship. And yes, this season was very underwhelming, hopefully they right the ship next season. But you're spot on!
That story Claire told about that girl she had to treat at work, then they made out afterwards (apparently that was a dream) I was very confused lol. Also everyone trying to force Claire to get back with a guy who said nasty shit about her and who is mentally unwell?? Why are they not thinking about what Claire wants. Especially the faks also they aren’t funny! i don’t exactly see it for syd and carm just yet, but they’re very much forcing Claire in and every time I hear Claire bear I have to roll my eyes😭
its awful. i dont care what any of these positive critics say. it literally put me to sleep last night. what a disappointment, claire thing was overdone like we get it enough with these weird flashback scenes.
The show and the writing are still great. It’s your own bias and love for Syd/Carmy that blinds you to it. You all are hurt that your ship was sunk and so you’re looking to point fingers. It was plain as day that Syd and Carmy would never be anything more than platonic soulmates. You guys just read incorrectly into things and got your hopes up. Now that the show didn’t meet your specific expectations it’s suddenly a crap season and several you are done with it all.
@@IndieCindy3 pls get so fucking serious. i don't care about sydcarmy, i'm upset at the lack of plot in this season. it literally went nowhere. wasted screen time that focused on style rather than story. the general audience (who are not sydcarmys) are upset as well. ur head is so far up this show's ass that u are unable to criticize it and acknowledge the problems with the writing. i could not give a single fuck if syd and carmy got together
It’s crazy how Tiffany tells Richie that Carmy blames Claire for his failures at the moment. Now, the question is who told her that because if Claire actually heard Carmy in the walk-in. She would know that he was blaming himself and said that he doesn’t need (deserved) happiness. That he needs to focus on the restaurant. This just proves once again that Claire is not good for Carmy because she doesn’t see the real him. She believes her presence alone will be able to magically fix all Carmy’s issues. I’m not going to deny that I’m a Carmy/Sydney shipper but I don’t expect or wanted that to happen anytime soon. Honestly, they have more chemistry and understanding of each other. I wanted to see them grow as people and eventually come together. Of course, there will be conflict for the storyline but to force feed Claire to prove some point is weird. Just don’t make Carmy/Sydney a thing, don’t stoop this low and destroy the whole damn show. At the end, I hope Sydney does decides to leave for a bit and maybe develop some new friendships because I feel like she’s only one being held back from growth at this point.
Furthermore she knew about his self-sabotaging bs the second they met. He gave her a fake number, she called him out for it. This conflict has been done already.
They wanted to do this character analysis deep dive. Which is…fine. But they have to understand it stagnates the plot to constantly jump back in time or kick off the first episode by jumping into carmy’s psyche in an experimental and artsy way. I thought it felt like season 2.5 not season 3 if you get what I mean. It feels like a veerrrryyy dragged out setup for the season. Ep 10 with all the old friends gathering around to say farewell to a restaurant they worked at closing sounds like a way better kick off for a season then ending it there. Luca is there for a few months, carmy confronts his abusive ex boss, the reviews are pouring in for the bear. Lot of potential inciting incidents. Carmy slowly becoming his boss and just making syd suffer and panic was so strange. I don’t mind the idea that romance might not happen and it’s just a deep platonic connection, but now i can’t even say that partnership is strong now that they are so distant and awkward. I think carmy shouldn’t be with anyone, though. I don’t want her to suffer and I always thought their dynamic wouldn’t be as powerful and beautiful the way people have romanticized in their head. I’ve read some beautiful ahh fanfiction of them though lol so I see the vision, but he is a nightmare canonically. The tension isn’t spicy, it’s just cruel and unfair. Let’s not saddle syd with the responsibility to fix carmy. Ugh set my girl free from this guy’s mood swings. I felt more peace with syd talking to Luca for 5 seconds then any heavy back and fourth between her and carmy in the past seasons.
@@Kr1t1cal_thinking will poulter is a beautiful man and he’s playing a charming and mild tempered (and not INSANE) character so it makes sense I’m clinging to him like a life preserver at sea lol 😭 I like how he’s kind of nerdy and passionate about food. He still gets joy out of it meanwhile carmy is running his place like a navy and giving himself ulcers. He’s a great chef but you can tell it’s such a love hate thing for him. I fully get why people are passionate about syd having romance. At the end of the day, this is escapism and people watching want to see something pleasant happen. The optics of everyone gathering around and caring about Claire crying and her fragility in her relationship with carmy is kind of obnoxious to see meanwhile syd is just getting swamped and unfairly treated. Them going to Claire’s workplace to get her to take carmy back was so lame. She is plot device. She represents carmy idealizing and not truly knowing someone really and just viewing her as a dream girl or a thing he doesn’t deserve to he can self flagellate about it. NEXT. Carmy and Claire are so highschool and this kitchen of tough chefs are suddenly so passive when they used to box each others ears and called each others out when they pushed things too far. Everyone felt so declawed this season. Anyway, ayo has chemistry with everyone so I just wanna see her not having a panic attack and detached from the team. To actually have a sliver of joy. Luca deserves to be a front man. No more side character business.
@@Kr1t1cal_thinking will poulter is a beautiful man and he’s playing a charming and mild tempered (and not INSANE) character so it makes sense I’m clinging to him like a life preserver at sea lol 😭 I like how he’s kind of nerdy and passionate about food. He still gets joy out of it meanwhile carmy is running his place like a navy and giving himself ulcers. He’s a great chef but you can tell it’s such a love hate thing for him. I fully get why people are passionate about syd having romance. At the end of the day, this is escapism and people watching want to see something pleasant happen. The optics of everyone gathering around and caring about Claire crying and her fragility in her relationship with carmy is kind of obnoxious to see meanwhile syd is just getting swamped and unfairly treated. Them going to Claire’s workplace to get her to take carmy back was so lame. She is plot device. She represents carmy idealizing and not truly knowing someone really and just viewing her as a dream girl or a thing he doesn’t deserve to he can self flagellate about it. NEXT. Carmy and Claire are so highschool and this kitchen of tough chefs are suddenly so passive when they used to box each others ears and called each others out when they pushed things too far. Everyone felt so declawed this season. Anyway, ayo has chemistry with everyone so I just wanna see her not having a panic attack and detached from the team. To actually have a sliver of joy. Luca deserves to be a front man. No more side character business.
@@neonrays28 it would beat what they gave us for sure. Like I wouldn’t be mad at some angst and some toxic edge if it meant I’d get some pay off in the story. I never expected carmy and syd to be anything this season though. I expected maybe their friendship becoming deeper or more complicated, but I don’t see syd putting up with being any kind of rebound for carmy after his mess with Claire. Doesn’t seem to align with her character and she seems a bit avoidant about romance. The way she reacted to Marcus’s crush seemed deeper than just ‘I don’t like you like that’ she almost seemed repulsed by the idea of any kind of romance for herself. Like she was like ‘ugh, no. I’m too busy for that.’ I still think if they’re trying to set up syd with Luca it could create a lot of tension. Marcus might feel a type of way, maybe carmy would too? Idk.
I think the issue with Claire is she’s too perfect of a character and Carmy is a mess but they keep trying to focus Carmy to want her when he’s not good enough for her. And instead of taking the L and letting her go they want to make it seem like she was the one that got away. I don’t care if Carmy isn’t with Sydney and he ends up with a random girl or is single the whole show but Claire isn’t it.
i saw a tweet from someone saying they stayed off twitter to avoid spoilers but came back and their weren’t any because there was nothing to spoil and that’s how i feel about this season. a bunch of a questions are raised at the beginning of the season and not a single one is answered by the end. which is a bad move for a, in my opinion, boring/repetitive/drawn out season. it feels like half of a season stretched out into 10 episodes. it was also weird how little the interactions between the core cast were. it felt like the actors had scheduling issues so they replaced them with the faks. very little changes from beginning to end. will he talk to claire? don’t know. will sydney leave? don’t know. will the review be good? don’t know. will the bear shut down? don’t know. will richie and carmy make up? don’t know. will carmy talk to his mom? don’t know. will carmy and sydney talk? don’t know. will richie go to the wedding? don’t know. why are we dragging every question into season 4? i feel like i could have just watched the first and last episode and i’m caught up for s4. i’m so disappointed i’m not even looking forward to s4 now. i’ll watch but my expectations are low. it had flaws in s2, but overall i enjoyed it. this season seems to say that the show will gradually get worse each season.
This is the comment!! You nailed it! There was no resolution all season, for anyone. The core cast was together but basically didn't interact. Get the Fak family out of here! We didn't need that many nor that much of them. The bits went on entirely too long. Carmy didn't even meet his newborn neice as far as we know. I guess he was just too busy being agonizing over his 5 min relationship that he never even said he was in 🤷🏿♀️
@@msandrews87 yep! literally only one fak bit made me laugh was when he screwed up serving and that’s really just because i realized carmy was about to be pissed. i literally cannot believe the faks when to the hospital instead of carmy. my jaw dropped when that was the end of the episode. omfg i was waiting for him to apologize to claire so we could move on from that damn storyline. i can’t believe they managed to make that even more annoying and she didn’t even speak to carmy. i feel nothing for them and it’s like the writers are down on their knees begging me to care. ugh i’m glad so many people seem to be on the same track for why this season was the worst. fingers crossed they take notes for next season.
Season three really had no direction and I wish they had set a goal ( ie food critics coming for a review and creating the right menu) that would’ve given better structure and a more linear plot to follow. I also agree and hate that it became very Claire centric and completely lost all the chemistry that Sydney and Carmy had developed. Sydney was barely in the season and nothing got resolved. It was quite disappointing
My goodness, you had me dying (of laughter), and that is such a lovely color on you! Someone posted somewhere else on another video about this season that Claire is a manic pixie dream girl with no manic or pixie and I agree. I'm confused about why they wrote her the way they did if they want us to believe she such an important figure in Carmy's life, not to mention they really dropped the ball on Ebra and Marcus for the Faks, it was funny the first time ONLY.
I firmly believe the first episode was just a weird romanticization of Carmy. We'd already seen or been told all of that information before they just wanted to try and make us fall for his story again but we already have. This entire season followed the theme of the abused becoming the abuser and it just didn't work the way they did it. You are absolutely right with the characters not calling Carmy out. There's only a few times where he's called an ass and then everyone just moves on and Carmy continues being an ass.
But that's not what the fallout between Richie and Carmy is about. Claire was just the catalyst for the argument. I was surprised that it went all season, but it was about deep cuts they took on each other, esp Carmy towards Richie, (loser, leech, can't take care of your kid?) FU was insufficient for that BS. Then, Carmy doubles down by being a complete nut w/his non-negotiable BS
another continuity thing was that Syd makes a fennel salad for first family meal but is allergic in s03. just interesting it's the same ingredient of all the ones to choose.
I think Carmy was actually lying in there as a moment of rebellion to serve the dish his way and against the EMP chef. But the use of fennel throughout the show defo has some significance I think
You do know that people can suddenly develop allergies to things they’ve grown up eating, right? It’s not uncommon or out of the question. Some of you are reaching so hard to try and call them out for things because you’re so hurt about your ship being sunk. I know it sucks, but the show is still really great. Get over it or not, but the show will continue to be successful regardless of what Syd/Carmy shippers think.
@IndieCindy3 goodness so many assumptions! i do know about lats onset allergies, yes. I am not & have never been a sydcarmy shipper. I was just pointing out an interesting use of the same ingredient across seasons and it was pointed out that it was likely carmy being rebellious so he could plate his version of the dish - that's notable. you can disagree without coming for a commenter.
I stopped watching s3 after what felt like ten straight minutes of screaming back in forth between everyone. I was like, why am I forcing myself to watch this headache?
Boring season. Bunch of filler episodes. Terrible humor from the "funny" brothers....Not enough Oliver Platt. And the dialog...."Fuck this, fuck that"....so bad.
Season 3 was great. It connects Carmy’s past to the present. It helped me to better understand why he is so locked in. It shows his competitiveness, selfishness and other flaws. It shows how his mental health consumes him and impacts the people around him like Syd/ Richie. It definitely shows his stubbornness and pride. I can’t wait to see where things go in season 4!
This whole season was like a cluttered kitchen, yet also devoid of life. Idk, shit was meh to infuriating at times. Also, since I just watched your video on Interview with a Vampire. I would HIGHLY recommend The Ones Who Live on AMC, like Twitter got me to watch it and oh yeah, how refreshing it is to see a dark skinned woman as a romantic lead and a great lead in general. Danai Gurira also wrote one of the episodes and its the best one. (Obie winning playwright Queen!) Richonne is is such a great couple and unlike The Bear basically the Showrunners, writers and both actors fully support and drive Rick and Michonne being together.
really wild how the creator/writers idk got so caught up in coddling the white woman tears of their own making that it halted any productive or emotionally genuine progression…. It is true to reality but in the worst way possible 🥴
When I saw the preview I said oh god, Claire ..l have only looked at episodes 1&2. I can't watch anymore Ive been listening to reviews, Hoping that I'm wrong about the way I'm feeling.
I fell asleep in episode 1 and found out that nothing happened. Then I struggled to get through episode 2-3 and I haven’t gone back and idk if I even care enough to finish the season. Also, everyone talks about Claire like she’s a magical fairy that farts money and I just don’t get it. I don’t think we got that many episodes with Her and Carmy for us to care if Claire is not around.
They had a moment. He also wasn't a random person, she obviously took an interest in Carm and that was the reason he was there in the first place. Also, he literally came that day voluntarily to join the service team. That does warrant a blow kiss.
She also knew Syd for 30 mins and went to party in her tiny ass apartment so I think she's just that kind of person that doesn't have airs about herself and just easily loves people like that.
@@biharcourt still not convinced. She had a moment with probably everyone there and she singled out Richie of all people. It's a very personal gesture when their relationship is surface level, at best. Writers were pushing with this storyline in the first place making everyone on the staff suddenly LOVE Richie in less than a week.
@@biharcourt that's a fair point actually. I totally get what you're saying about chef Terry and I agree. My problem with the scene is because it's Richie receiving it. If it was Carmy or someone from the staff it wouldn't be weird.
Thank you. Everyone was talking about their relationship, practically obsessing over it. He's reminiscing about it every 5 seconds even though it only lasted like, 2 months? The Fak's are going to her job to sing his praises? A reference or flashback in EVERY episode? Nat is calling her while in labor?!?!?! what are we doing right now Season 2, Claire felt like a set up to address how bad Carmys boundaries are with his family, which I didn't like for her character but I understood. How she refused to take the hint and practically guilted him into a hanging out with her. How his family is going on about how great she is. How they all call her Claire Bear which I thought was meant to be kinda awkward in S2. How Carmy is visibly not always comfortable with her. Even how the family (especially the men) talk about Claire, as if she is the perfect OBJECT for Carmy. But no, apparently we were supposed to think he was genuinely in love and not going with who his family likes because he cares too much about their opinions on his life. I mean, think about how his WHOLE family reacts to Claire. There is no way Carmy thought he could flat out say no to dating her without all of them making him feel terrible for it, probably for years. That would have been so interesting to explore. (and for the syd/carmy shippers, if the reason he can't adhere to his families wishes is because he's falling for Syd? How would the family react to that? Or their relationship?) This had so much potential in that way. At this point, I'm genuinely wondering is Claire is a stand in for a person a writer on the show knows and loves in real life. Either this, or her solely being invented to trash any Carmy and Sydney romance, because if this character was always in the plan we would have known about her in season 1.
There's a curious connection I'm making right now and it's driving me crazy. In the opening scene of The Bear season 3, Carmy is in an empty apartment and stares at a burn scar (which he and Claire have a vague discussion about later in memories), before he goes back to his restaurant to clean and write his bs non-negotiables. Then in epi 4 Sydney signs the lease to a new apartment that has similar windows. Then in the last epi (I think?) he asks Sydney if she got "the apartment" and congratulates her. Did he find the apartment for Syd? And if he did, why is the show being so vague about it? And the burn, is there a hidden meaning to it apart from the fact that Claire asked about it? Ugh I don't know I don't know and it's killing me 😅😅. I hope the pay off is worth it.
I'm in agreement with a good MANY of your assessments, & particularly as it pertains to the "F you" argument between Carmy and Ritchie which was TOO MUCH and for FAR TOO LONG. But theeennn.... when Richie decided to actually SPIT at Carmy, I was TOO through. As if this behavior, and the reasons behind it, weren't off-puttung enough - but now you want to add gutter-level disgust into the mix?? 😬😫💆🏽♀️ They took some ideas way too far while Others not far enough.
Also I don’t know if it’s just me but I feel like Claire’s character is a little immature for someone who’s supposed to be a doctor. She kinda acts like a naive teenager at times or like someone with little to no responsibilities. We don’t see her open up about the trauma and stress of working in the medical field.
Totally agree with the missed storylines!! I do feel like S3 is better when u watch each episode in isolation l, which is frustrating because S1 and 2 was so enticing from the start
Girl, I couldn't remember who called the BS on the Claire subplot in S2!!! "Save It For Later" by the English Beat is one of my all time favorite songs, but that soundtrack was overbearing because they were "bro" tunes for the older white guy chefs, not our younger protagonists...especially not Sydney, Tina, Marcus or Carmy--who, according to stats on who buys hip-hop, as a white dude, would be listening to a more than a little hip-hop. These 35 to 45 year old songs...no. And even tho the camera lingers on the women and other chefs of color, the chatter was from the older white men...back to the music. ***I love the passion of your reviews. You should do more, please 🙏🏽 🎉
Why is The Bear so accurate? I'll base my opinion off of nearly 3 decades working both FOH and BOH for two young chefs that blew up: 3 years in, this beloved show with the industry behind it and excited for it's future, read it's clippings and crawled so far up it's rear end that it became insufferable. Towards the end of this 3rd season, it dawned on me. This show is actually perfect in a way Im sure the show-runners did not intend.
im sure this is a really good video but i was lowkey so disappointed when i looked at my recommended videos and saw this thumbnail, like i was so excited to watch the third season and i feel like its already been kind of spoiled without me even looking up a single review 😭
If they wanted season 3 to be about flashbacks, they should've extended the season and not waste episodes on one scene like Ep2 where they're arguing in the kitchen about non-negotiables.
I agree with all this but I still happened to liked the season for its cinematography, editing, and culinary cameos. It was a love letter to Chicago and the culinary industry. I liked seeing Carmy's culinary history. I think that was important. I did like the Faks. But yeah, the whole Carmy being butt hurt over Claire all season and Richie being mad at him because he hurt Claire and said mean things to him. He apologized, move on. He has no idea what Claire heard, why pick a fight with him while he's stuck in a freezer. It's like they were backtracking everything that has transpired from S1 to S2 and put great importance on that vague relationship with Claire. She literally haunted the season. Why? But the show still had laughs and a lot of heart and we could see that found family dynamic. And it would be a huge blow if Syd leaves. Syd was Natalie's 2nd call after Pete when she was in labor and heading to the hospital. Syd is important but Carmy is too stuck to see anything but Claire and his abusive ex-head chef. There was some continuity issues too as you mentioned but good season overall.
I watched the first and last episode and just read the episode descriptions for the in between. Episode 10 left me hopeful for season 4, but glad I did not waste my time on eps 2-9. Great review.
please please please do yourself a favor and watch episode 6! My favorite of the season. The cinematography was so much more dynamic (thanks ayo!) and the story is one of the only heartwarming moments of the whole season.
I honestly think season one was the best and season two was way too jam packed with way too many stars trying to act like characters. It was a distraction and felt over-crowded, at least for me. And the entire Claire thing was moot also.
THANK YOU FOR HONESTY!! I just started watching season 3 and im barely able to get through episode 1. Its soooo slow. I dont know if im going to be able to get through it and tht sucks because I really liked season 1 and 2.
I agree with a whole lot of what you said, but I do disagree that we were “stuck in the freezer” because of Claire’s hurt feelings/white woman’s tears. I’m not a Claire enthusiast; however, whatever happened in season 3 is so not her fault lol It was Carmy that was stuck and pretty much forcing the rest of the crew to stay frozen in that moment as well. He was absolutely awful all season long to everyone around him. Everyone had to step on egg shells around him 24/7 because this GROWN ASS MAN just refuses to actually properly and healthily acknowledge his trauma and grief. It honestly ruined the season for me. He was just too unlikeable. To be honest, he genuinely doesn’t deserve neither Claire nor Sydney at this point. BOTH ladies deserve better, he’s not well adjusted enough to treat either of them well.
carmy and sydney’s chemistry is so palpable i thought it was obvious that they would get together. when they introduced claire i was thinking she would just be around for a couple episodes and carmy would like her but see something is missing in claire to make him realize that sydney is the girl he actually needs… but nooo here claire is 2 seasons later… it’s insane the writers can’t see what’s right in front of them
I didn’t finish the episode bc I felt like the point was made by the third time Sugar went along with the “Hee Hee Hees” breathing technique. Like ok they’re reconciling. Where’s the other characters?
@@lainadelpay exactly! I was thinking maybe the Mom was lying and didn't call her husband for her, so she would be the only one there with her. But when he finally comes I was like okay...where the hell is everyone else!? This cannot be it. Ugh it was so disappointing & they over did that part way to much.
I appreciate and respect your opinion, but dang does it feel cynical. I saw a character study in season 3 and pain, suffering, and turmoil which is a necessary path way to positive change and growth.
I agree with this. I really don’t care about his relationship with Claire, but Carmy is dealing with that, as well as the abuse he faced with his ex boss back in NY. I’m glad that the show didn’t rush through his arc because it would have been unrealistic for a character as avoidant as Carmy.
Yes me too. I understand why some people won't appreciate season 3 but I do. I even got to appreciate Claire a little bit more (although still not a CarmClaire shipper). It's very realistic about how life can be stagnant sometimes and made me get Carmy even more while being totally frustrated by him lol. I think this is a very important season and it's the one I've actually rewatched the most.
Such a well-worded review covering every point that went wrong in this season🔥. I have another complaint with this season, and that's having too many faks.
I think Sydney and Carmy being together is the most unimaginative thing the writers could do on this show and it cheapens both their relationship, making it cliche and less interesting than it is, and the characters (specially Sydney). You're allowed to think and like/dislike things and I totally respect it, but I hope they never go this route. I actually think S3 is a good character driven season to build up to an actual growth of the main character (while the other characters learns and gives lessons, he gives steps back) and it is why Carmy feels so stuck on Claire. Because Claire represents the idea of happiness (why the characters push him about it, because they know best and know part of his spiral is the denial of happiness caused by learning the wrong lessons... why Chef Terry POV is fundamental in the last episode) that he rejects due the toxic behaviour of his family and former boss. Anyways, I guess we are all allowed to see things our way and I like to see all POVs possible so your video is interesting even though I disagree with it a lot. I honestly don't want any drama, but I like to grow and develop my own writting and for this, I also need to dive into different POV. So, peace
I really liked the first episode because it was so meditative and felt like taking a breath but they should have returned to the pacing of s2. Instead, it felt like the whole season was a montage or adlibbed badly. I gget what they were trying to do in the end as well with the chefs but the whole effect is pretentious. It just wasn't a complete season IMO. All of the best episodes in S3 didn't have Carmy tbh, which is a huge problem.
I haven’t watched the last episode as of yet, but so far from what I’ve seen, if we’re supposed to believe after this that Carmy wants to make things right with Claire… I don’t see it. I think he has built her up in his head so much and if he can’t even call her, let alone send a text apologizing then I just don’t think it’s gonna happen BUT it does seem that she is still pining over him so she might just be waiting for him to call to take him back 😅
I’m not a fan on Claire and Carmy. However I don’t want Sydney and Carmy to happen. In the end Carmy is her boss and she is the employee. Leave the unnecessary romance out especially when Carmy is clearly not ready for one….PERIODT. I wanted the focus to be on the effect of season 2, the restaurant, and the employee friendships/dynamics for the remodel 😞.
@@kaiwyatt8203 In the role of authority when it comes to the restaurant, Carmy is above Sydney. They may be partners when working but there is still an obvious power dynamic that cannot be ignored for a romance.
@@keke8802 they're still not even partners cuz either lol Syd has yet to sign the paperwork and Syd is contemplating working for someone else because she fears she may not be able to trust Carmy and his chaos. When she was clearly having a break down about possibly leaving she reminisced about everyone that she enjoys working with there not just Carmy... I have reasons to believe why people keep pushing Carmy and Syd so heavily... and it's sad cuz it's what everyone clearly wants for themselves and not what's in the best interest of the characters. I agree with you completely, but I honestly can see Carm with Claire later down the road when he works through his trauma.
I was soo excited for this season bu I could only watch to episode 5 before giving up. I was bored out of my mind! They ruined everything good about the show. Too many faks, not enough SydCarmy, pointless vulgar fights, too many weird meaningless shots, ugh, im so mad just thinking about it. Saw some tweets talking about that how season 3 of shows set it up for a bomb 4th season, and im so confused, since when?? Because at this point i dont even have faith in the creators that the forth season will be any good either
I don’t get how S3 was supposed to start off just like S2 when S2 ended on a low note & S1 ended on a high note. It wouldn’t make sense for S3 to start off the same.
Sounds like you wanted more of the same. I did too. This is not that kind of series tho. The writers take chances and they made a deliberate choice to slow down and zoom in on the characters and in that they succeeded. I wanted resolution for the Claire plot but in real life things don’t wrap up in neat packages especially when the person is close to your family. Also remember they filmed seasons 3 and 4 together. Let’s see both seasons before we judge
This is a purposeful misunderstanding of the season. Richie and Carmy weren't at odds over fucking Claire, it was because of the constant menu changes among other things that were fucking over the waitstaff. How the fuck could you have possibly missed that?
She didn’t misunderstand anything. Carmy and Richie were fighting all of season 3 due to their unresolved blow up at the end of season 2 that was instigated by Richie seeing Claire crying because of Carmen. Their petty arguments over the menus and “non-negotiables” are fueled by residual resentment due to their argument that started about Claire. Idk how you aren’t following that.
I think Claire is meant to be the answer to Carm's problem of his dysfunctional family life and past trauma with Chef Douchebag. Like she is meant to be an emotional anchor point to an ideal balance of Carm's career and the personal life he needs to have. The people trying to romantically link Sydney and Carm are insane for mistaking a peer to peer relationship.
I think i enjoyed the season to be honest vewing it as a setup season which i believe it is it was solid and not as good as the first two but it was beautiful and i know season 4 is going to be the payoff
Ya’ll are so goofy. The show was quite literally a meditation on purpose. It strived for a kind of natural aesthetic almost never achieved on television. Everyone seems to be whining about the missing points of drama and inexplicably destroying the Claire character for god knows what reason. I just think television criticism sucks today. And this is a perfect example. Because it’s always about what the critic wanted the show to do rather than examine what it actually does. The discussion here seems to imply that the manner this season was explored was some sort of freestyle experience. It is so incredibly intentional. This is a just one long season of reckoning on purpose, what matters and what one can and can’t live with. It lets every character touch that touchstone. It’s not fun. It’s confrontational and ruthless and searing most of the time. It’s a tough hang. It’s an examination of what it cheekily alludes to at the final dinner, a trauma meal. But it’s quiet, it’s a panic attack meets depression season arc that purposely makes you feel lost and stunted and broken. I suspect the real reason most people criticize it the way they have comes down to this notion. It could give a fuck about happy ending or storyline goals. I thought it was absolutely brilliant and a completely draining watch. But that was the point. It was so visceral you wanted to eject from it. I’m not sure that lends itself to the type of critique suggested here. It simply challenges.
Yeah sure but pacing and impact matters. I just watched season 3 and I can't remember it. I remember every moment of S1 & S2. It explored the same themes, was always more character driven than plot driven but was just better written and executed. This season felt like one really long filler episode which lost all the charm of the previous seasons. There were also inconsistencies with how the characters were presented in previous seasons. Sure depression, exhaustion and lethargy can make people act differently but the differences in character dynamics just felt too stark. The dialogue was at times clunky, scenes and best points were drawn out for too long and we didn't learn anything new about the characters except for Tina and Syd. There is nothing wrong with acknowledging that.
Thank you, I honestly enjoyed it for how different it was, It was a bit hard for me in the beginning but I got used to it. I enjoy artistic types of writing and this felt more like a piece of art where you really a have to pay attention to the details and understand the underlying messages. I didn't enjoy the Faks as much, I think they were around a little to much and a bit too goofy for me this season. But at the end of the day I feel it all worked in its own way.
Claire is not the problem, fringe fans are. I really like that so far the actors and the writers respect the integrity of the show too much to make Sydney and Carmy a couple just for fan service,
Yes a lot of fans want Carmy and Sydney together but honestly it the way they wrote Claire. Carmy could end up with a random nobody one the street or be alone the whole series but them trying to focus Claire being the love is life is just draining. That flashback of them I literally don’t know what it was about being I was not interested at all.
I can't believe you literally referred to the table scene as romantic. It's already bad enough that people have no ability to comprehend that having friendship or business partner chemistry doesn't automatically equate to romantic chemistry but the only argument people make for syd and carmy being potential romance partners is that they touched hands under a table. Literally that's it. Nothing else and that's because they have absolutely no romantic chemistry. They would never work as a couple and people only think they would cause of wishful thinking but when you actually think about that happening it makes zero sense and would never even happen let alone work.
I’m sorry but Camry & Syd very much gave romance vibes in that scene then any of Claire & Camry scenes in season 2. Most reactors pick up a romantic vibe from Camry & Syd. It’s not shippers fault that Camry & Sydney and have way more chemistry then the couple their trying to push.
exactly, they pushing it too far. Sydney hardly wants to be partners with him in the restaurant, she has yet to sign the document to be partner because she doesn't know weather Carmy can be reliable... He is incredibly erratic and she has had to tell him to chill the F out because she's not his babysitter... lmao and people honestly believe they should be together haha.
Love or hate Claire, it doesn't matter, what matters is the fact that Claire is important to Carmy same way Pet is important Nat. You are so hungry for plot and drama and you forget to remember that The Bear is basically a show about mental health. Episode 1 you are bashing is showcasing where Carmy is at, same way Marcus has his episode too. You didn't even give it atleast a month lmaoo. Go rewatch it, but this time open your heart and calm down.
the writing of claire is literally misogynistic. a female character who exists solely for the male protagonist and is painted as a way to *fix* him? are u being serious?
@@femcults so you think all of the scenes involving her and her friend, or her in the hospital, which have nothing to do with Carmy, are invalid in some way?
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I don't get why the showrunners are obsessed with Claire. It's weird. Can't believe Carmy has been reduced to this pathetic lovesick puppy.
You clearly have didn’t watch the first 2 seasons this video is dumb and don’t understand the bear and the aim has always been the characters if yall to dumb to understand that I don’t know what to tell you
I got to episode 3 and the first scene with Camry and Claire was so long that I said I’m done watching this show. It was terrible.
What I can’t understand is why and how Syd/Carmy shippers are so delusional. It was obvious from the start that Syd and Carmy are platonic soul mates. Nothing more.
@@IndieCindy3 even if theyre only platonic, still trying to pair claire with carmy is still bad writing lol
@@valeflanart3196only to someone who doesn’t know why the romance exists within the story
16:04 oh CLOCK ITTTTT. I am expected to be up in arms about Claire MISUNDERSTANDING Carmy’s breakdown. He was bashing HIMSELF. TINA heard the beginning of his rant and keep in mind Mikey’s been dead less than two years at this point…and I’m supposed to gaf that Claire who didn’t respect his boundaries in S2 and went looking for his number, who seems to have such a handle on her life and career that she can go gallivanting around Chicago at random times…has her feelings hurt…when Carmen is bashing HIMSELF?? Like YOU said ily in your voicemail but now won’t even clear the air with him OR his insane family that we are reminded every 15 minutes that you know??
My major gripe from s2 was how in their haste to shut the sydcarmy shippers up, they separated the most important and fascinating dynamic in the show. And from then on the show has suffered.
You don’t have to be a shipper to admit that as the seasons move, Carmy’s most important relationship shifts from Mikey to Sydney because she is someone he always wanted at The Beef/The Bear: a collaborator who gets his language.
Sydney being as good as she is allows him to go to Al Anon and work on his relationship with Nat.
And Carmen initially collaborating with Sydney gave her something I don’t think she’s ever had in a professional kitchen: trust. And that helps her confidence in herself grow.
Their push and pull that is born not out of loyalty to a dead brother/boss/family friend, but because they see the world in the same way and WANT to work together…but a few internet people liking the chemistry and seeing a potential romance has the writers (it was actually only Chris writing this season) scrambling to overcorrect using Claire to his show’s detriment
I hate Claire with a passion lol. I know it's not her fault but the way she is so shoehorned in makes it unbearable. Carmy didn't even like her to that degree and now he's obsessed? This season felt like filler
Thank you. I was trying to find the word "Filler" but couldn't conjure it. Yeah, its a filler season
I agree with everything. The only highlight for me was seeing the staff at ‘Ever’ again. Other than that they seem to be dimming everyone’s light just so the Claire storyline can happen. As if they thought if we put enough distance between Carmy and Sydney it will make his chemistry with Claire look better by comparison. Where was the found family, commentary on trauma, and the humor that was so charming. All of it gone for some lackluster side plot that should’ve been buried with Season 2. Bad season but great video.
The Claire thing shouldn't have even happened in season 2 it dragged season 2
@@MelisaManaseAgreed. But what is so frustrating is that we were forced to sit through the Claire show round 2. Please writers it’s a dead storyline let’s move on.
I agree with you about how great it was seeing everyone from Ever again. I also liked seeing Chef Luca. And I totally think they deliberately separated Carmy and Sydney to tamp down on all the shipper speculation. Supposedly, Jeremy doesn't want that ship to sail either (although I'd guess if that's the difference between the show's continued success and not, he'd get over it). But maybe since he doesn't want it and Christopher doesn't either, they just deliberately tried to provide as little fuel for that fire as possible?
Perfect. You hit it out of the park with your very first sentence. "For a show that says 'Every second counts' it somehow managed to waste every single one. Chef's kiss.
One other thing I haven't heard anyone mention is how Natalie turned into a naive child when it came time to give birth. I kept yelling 9-1-1, if you can't reach anyone else and you're in trouble, call 9-1-1. Calling mom felt so forced. And then it was like Sugar had never gone to a single class, or read a single book. I get that they wanted to show how her mom had traumatized her, but god, it all just felt so forced!
I feel like in separating Sydney and Carmy into their own disparate but parallel storylines, they forgot that the most dynamic relationship (romantic or not) on the show is Carmy and Syd's. They're the most important characters on the show and their relationship is the most important one.... Richie and Carmy's being a close second. The three of them are the BIG 3 (to steal from This Is Us) and this season, unfortunately, they spent a whole lot of time depriving us of their interpersonal dynamics to take the air out of the Carmy/Syd shippers sails to the detriment of the rest of the story. Claire was just not that important, even metaphorically, to have as much time dedicated to her and her relationship with Carmy as they did. Which is unfortunate because they handicapped the narrative of the show (whether you're a shipper or not, you can't deny that) just to make her character important unduly. As a result, we got minimal Carmy/Syd, very little Syd/Richie, and then all the Carmy/Richie was about them nonsensically arguing over Claire. Make it make sense. This season wasn't terrible but it was entirely an unforced error. In trying to hobble a small but vocal minority of shippers (while let's be real, still heavily pandering to them and baiting them) they threw a spanner into the entire internal engine of the season...robbing the show of all its forward momentum and steam. Which is a damn shame. I hope they right the boat in time for season four.
I feel so pandered to as a shipper and it makes me feel sick. That actually pissed me off more than the actual show and now im over Sydcarmy a bit. Ayo and Jeremy are literally next to each other in all promotional material but when you click on interviews they're not even in the same room for press.
It's so strange because they shot it to imply a romantic chemistry between them in the previous season. I didn't even want them to get together and was initially annoyed when they did that but the more it went on, the more I began to like the idea of it because they made it seem so endearing. Now in S3 they cut it all off, maybe they wanted to mirror the dysfunctionality in their relationship to the dysfunctionality in their kitchen but even then it just doesn't click fully. You can tell this season was written during the writers strike. 😂
If Chris Storer doesn't want Sydney and Carmy to happen, then fine (I didn't care either way knowing how much of a problem people seem to have with Black female characters), but forcing a boring character that a lot of people either don't like or aren't connected to, to have more screen time, is not a good move. I don't find the Faks funny either. Reviews for this season have been lukewarm.
i 100% agree with everything you’ve said. I have been full sydcarmy the entire time and I would like Claire to kindly sod off and go have her own story somewhere else, blandly sweet as she is. I cannot believe she was featured and mentioned so heavily this season, I really thought she had a strong exit at the end of last season.
I’m so tired of Claire. Like leave her alone. If anything, Claire’s purpose is revealing to Carmy his flaws and his improving moving forward. She don’t need to be here anymore 😂
So sick of Claire plotline like get over it! We don't care. They should have never gone with that we didn't need it.
I feel like they are forcing Clair on the audience to silence us SydCarmy shippers. Like damn it's not that serious ! Don't ruin the show in trying to prove us wrong.
I feel like the only ones who didn’t like it are the Syd/Carmy shippers. 🤷🏻♀️
That’s your bias talking. The show is just as great as ever, but your ship was sunk so all of a sudden the show is crap to you. The thing is, they never promised you guys anything. In fact, it was plain as day that Syd and Carmy are just meant to be great friends. If anything, they were pushing for Syd/Marcus, and I still think that might happen somewhere down the line.
@@IndieCindy3 You don’t have to ship Sydney and Carmy but I wish you guys would drop Sydney and Marcus getting together lol. She rejected him twice already, if anything they are most likely going to have Sydney and Luca get together next season
@@IndieCindy3 Also, you really need to calm down in these comments coming for people who ship Sydney and Carmy together, it’s not that serious 😭
@@misskayelizabethdee I feel like this season was thin in general like they only had 4-5 episodes worth of content stretched out to 10. Like the Claire storyline is the same place it was on the last episode of season 2 , nothing happened. Why is Claire then featured in season 3? The Faks also got way too much screen time they changed from being comedic relief to being annoying. The conversation felt like they were just going round and round in circles. It was a weak season in my opinion.
the most jarring thing about season 3 for me was how all the characters blended together in the background to revolve around carmy and the ghost of claire's plot
i kept thinking "sugar would say this, syd would do that, richie would be like this, where are the tina and syd talks?"
also, where were the "sorry" sign language moments? it just FELL OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH; it was jarring how disconnected s3 felt from s2
i understand that carmy feels like a different person and is changed, but why has everyone else lost their spice? sugar lost her brother too and she's pregnant, why is she rolling over??? wtf is GOING ON lmao
it truly felt like sydney went from co-main character in s2 to secondary character in s3 and i was like????? excuse me, that's not what it looked like AT ALL from the promo and the marketing!!
it was very disappointing and out of everything carmy has EVER DONE in this show, hurting claire's feelings doesn't even get top 5, so i'm sorry if idgaf lmao
i hope they fix and rewrite whatever they have for season 4, cause this is ridiculous
the crazy thing is: i started watching the bear and by season 1, i was not shipping them at all
i thought "people are crazy for shipping sydcarmy, that's insane, they would never work"
by season 2, their relationship grew so fast and it was all there, on the screen, i understood! they have the best dynamic in the show
I remember nothing about this season. And i literally just watched it. Nothing was memorable outside of the Tina episode or the Natalie Birth episode. Also, way too much Faks.
Too many Faking faks😅
i think the producers just got GREEDY. everyone knows the second season is even better than the first, yet the first season won every single award you could think of. the second season hasnt been eligible for an award season yet. they knew they would get the same awards if not more for season 2. thats why they produced season 3 and 4 back to back. which means they wrote and produces 20 episodes in the same time that they used to write and produce 8 episodes .... AND IT SHOWS. the show has good moments, but so much slow and uninformative fluff. it could have been 5 brilliant episodes, but now their greed let them to stretch it into 10 good episodes with occasional greatness.
So...wow. I love how you break things down. I binged S3 Wednesday night and I actually loved episode 1. Around ep 5 I had a horrifying thought, which was "I don't think I like this season". To me that nearly impossible. I was looking forward to psycho Carmy, the conflicts between him and everyone else reaching a climax and being resolved or resulting in a break up, and more character development of Syd, Richie, Marcus, Tina, and Natalie. I wanted to meet the baby and see how Carmy processed being an uncle. I expected clear Claire resolution at some point even if they got back together. Sydney had two very strong seasons so most of all I wanted to see her growth. The only crumb I had faith in from Syd and Carmy was a big, tense fight. But they just died quietly...There was Ep1 and just a few other hints of their partnership being meaningful, regardless of romance being part of it or not. They barely spoke to each other and that hurt. Same for Richie and Carmy. It was shocking that they took the two most interesting relationships and sidelined them in favor of the boring Claire flashbacks and those stupid Faks. Even Richie, the fan favorite of their white male audience, had a slow, pitiful arch. I am in shock. As far as Sydcarmy, despite the careful building of so many "soulmate" details and casting two actors with special chemistry, I'm not all that surprised if they don't happen. Chris Storer is the leader of The Bear, and Joana was off working on another project for S3. She only wrote and directed Ep 8. Chris's vision might be writing "The Great American Platonic Love Story" with Sydney as Carmy's Sidney Portier. In the 1950-60's in he played the "Black Jesus" prototype, the safe, asexual, black man who rescued white people. I love Sidney Portier btw. Anyways, S3 was mostly about setting up S4 and it suffered for that. I think each season should be a cohesive work that people can enjoy without the context of prior or upcoming seasons.
I agree with almost everything except for the Tina episode slander. It was really cool to see her backstory, and seeing mikey was really (beautiful? Sad? Painful? Not sure). Plus that one actually had bear family characters do stuff, minimal faks and a resolved plot line.
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“why am i even in your mouth” had me crying laughing. i got distracted staring at the details of their faces.
i really agree with what you said about all the missed opportunities. it literally just made me think about what it could have been. there was so much potential.
and the hospital would have been the perfect scene to get our first interaction between carmy and donna since michael died! WHY were the faks there instead???? who made that decision????
I had to forward thru that episode 4-5 minute Carmy-Claire scene, they are so boring with no chemistry! Why, oh why do they keep force feeding us this relationship. And yes, this season was very underwhelming, hopefully they right the ship next season. But you're spot on!
The minute goofy @ss John Cena appeared, i was done! This season is bad.
LOL!!!! They went overboard with the Faks & I agree he’s goofy😂
That story Claire told about that girl she had to treat at work, then they made out afterwards (apparently that was a dream) I was very confused lol. Also everyone trying to force Claire to get back with a guy who said nasty shit about her and who is mentally unwell?? Why are they not thinking about what Claire wants. Especially the faks also they aren’t funny! i don’t exactly see it for syd and carm just yet, but they’re very much forcing Claire in and every time I hear Claire bear I have to roll my eyes😭
its awful. i dont care what any of these positive critics say. it literally put me to sleep last night. what a disappointment, claire thing was overdone like we get it enough with these weird flashback scenes.
u hit the nail on the head. the writing this season was just.. awful
The show and the writing are still great. It’s your own bias and love for Syd/Carmy that blinds you to it. You all are hurt that your ship was sunk and so you’re looking to point fingers. It was plain as day that Syd and Carmy would never be anything more than platonic soulmates. You guys just read incorrectly into things and got your hopes up. Now that the show didn’t meet your specific expectations it’s suddenly a crap season and several you are done with it all.
@@IndieCindy3 pls get so fucking serious. i don't care about sydcarmy, i'm upset at the lack of plot in this season. it literally went nowhere. wasted screen time that focused on style rather than story. the general audience (who are not sydcarmys) are upset as well. ur head is so far up this show's ass that u are unable to criticize it and acknowledge the problems with the writing. i could not give a single fuck if syd and carmy got together
@@IndieCindy3 I don't care for the syd carmy pairing but still felt this was a drop in quality from the previous season
It’s crazy how Tiffany tells Richie that Carmy blames Claire for his failures at the moment. Now, the question is who told her that because if Claire actually heard Carmy in the walk-in. She would know that he was blaming himself and said that he doesn’t need (deserved) happiness. That he needs to focus on the restaurant. This just proves once again that Claire is not good for Carmy because she doesn’t see the real him. She believes her presence alone will be able to magically fix all Carmy’s issues. I’m not going to deny that I’m a Carmy/Sydney shipper but I don’t expect or wanted that to happen anytime soon. Honestly, they have more chemistry and understanding of each other. I wanted to see them grow as people and eventually come together. Of course, there will be conflict for the storyline but to force feed Claire to prove some point is weird. Just don’t make Carmy/Sydney a thing, don’t stoop this low and destroy the whole damn show. At the end, I hope Sydney does decides to leave for a bit and maybe develop some new friendships because I feel like she’s only one being held back from growth at this point.
Furthermore she knew about his self-sabotaging bs the second they met. He gave her a fake number, she called him out for it. This conflict has been done already.
YOU ARE SPOT ON!!!!!!! I was so disappointed in this season from start to end. Garbage.
If Sydney was white the storyline would already be established
Thank you!!!
Definitely. And the ship wouldn’t have been as hated
Gag it
What would it be if Carmy was black?
IM BEING FORCE FED 🗣️ I FEEL LIKE A SUFFRAGETTE IN THE 1920S 💀💀 🗣️🗣️🗣️
They wanted to do this character analysis deep dive. Which is…fine. But they have to understand it stagnates the plot to constantly jump back in time or kick off the first episode by jumping into carmy’s psyche in an experimental and artsy way.
I thought it felt like season 2.5 not season 3 if you get what I mean. It feels like a veerrrryyy dragged out setup for the season. Ep 10 with all the old friends gathering around to say farewell to a restaurant they worked at closing sounds like a way better kick off for a season then ending it there. Luca is there for a few months, carmy confronts his abusive ex boss, the reviews are pouring in for the bear. Lot of potential inciting incidents.
Carmy slowly becoming his boss and just making syd suffer and panic was so strange. I don’t mind the idea that romance might not happen and it’s just a deep platonic connection, but now i can’t even say that partnership is strong now that they are so distant and awkward.
I think carmy shouldn’t be with anyone, though. I don’t want her to suffer and I always thought their dynamic wouldn’t be as powerful and beautiful the way people have romanticized in their head. I’ve read some beautiful ahh fanfiction of them though lol so I see the vision, but he is a nightmare canonically. The tension isn’t spicy, it’s just cruel and unfair. Let’s not saddle syd with the responsibility to fix carmy. Ugh set my girl free from this guy’s mood swings.
I felt more peace with syd talking to Luca for 5 seconds then any heavy back and fourth between her and carmy in the past seasons.
Right?!😂 The Sydney and Luca few minutes dialogue felt more refreshing than all the anxiety and cruelty Carmy put her through the entire season.
@@Kr1t1cal_thinking will poulter is a beautiful man and he’s playing a charming and mild tempered (and not INSANE) character so it makes sense I’m clinging to him like a life preserver at sea lol 😭 I like how he’s kind of nerdy and passionate about food. He still gets joy out of it meanwhile carmy is running his place like a navy and giving himself ulcers. He’s a great chef but you can tell it’s such a love hate thing for him.
I fully get why people are passionate about syd having romance. At the end of the day, this is escapism and people watching want to see something pleasant happen. The optics of everyone gathering around and caring about Claire crying and her fragility in her relationship with carmy is kind of obnoxious to see meanwhile syd is just getting swamped and unfairly treated.
Them going to Claire’s workplace to get her to take carmy back was so lame. She is plot device. She represents carmy idealizing and not truly knowing someone really and just viewing her as a dream girl or a thing he doesn’t deserve to he can self flagellate about it. NEXT.
Carmy and Claire are so highschool and this kitchen of tough chefs are suddenly so passive when they used to box each others ears and called each others out when they pushed things too far. Everyone felt so declawed this season.
Anyway, ayo has chemistry with everyone so I just wanna see her not having a panic attack and detached from the team. To actually have a sliver of joy. Luca deserves to be a front man. No more side character business.
@@Kr1t1cal_thinking will poulter is a beautiful man and he’s playing a charming and mild tempered (and not INSANE) character so it makes sense I’m clinging to him like a life preserver at sea lol 😭 I like how he’s kind of nerdy and passionate about food. He still gets joy out of it meanwhile carmy is running his place like a navy and giving himself ulcers. He’s a great chef but you can tell it’s such a love hate thing for him.
I fully get why people are passionate about syd having romance. At the end of the day, this is escapism and people watching want to see something pleasant happen. The optics of everyone gathering around and caring about Claire crying and her fragility in her relationship with carmy is kind of obnoxious to see meanwhile syd is just getting swamped and unfairly treated.
Them going to Claire’s workplace to get her to take carmy back was so lame. She is plot device. She represents carmy idealizing and not truly knowing someone really and just viewing her as a dream girl or a thing he doesn’t deserve to he can self flagellate about it. NEXT.
Carmy and Claire are so highschool and this kitchen of tough chefs are suddenly so passive when they used to box each others ears and called each others out when they pushed things too far. Everyone felt so declawed this season.
Anyway, ayo has chemistry with everyone so I just wanna see her not having a panic attack and detached from the team. To actually have a sliver of joy. Luca deserves to be a front man. No more side character business.
Ugh how boring of a choice. That's not why I watch. I like toxic tv and couples sometimes.
@@neonrays28 it would beat what they gave us for sure. Like I wouldn’t be mad at some angst and some toxic edge if it meant I’d get some pay off in the story. I never expected carmy and syd to be anything this season though. I expected maybe their friendship becoming deeper or more complicated, but I don’t see syd putting up with being any kind of rebound for carmy after his mess with Claire. Doesn’t seem to align with her character and she seems a bit avoidant about romance. The way she reacted to Marcus’s crush seemed deeper than just ‘I don’t like you like that’ she almost seemed repulsed by the idea of any kind of romance for herself. Like she was like ‘ugh, no. I’m too busy for that.’
I still think if they’re trying to set up syd with Luca it could create a lot of tension. Marcus might feel a type of way, maybe carmy would too? Idk.
I think the issue with Claire is she’s too perfect of a character and Carmy is a mess but they keep trying to focus Carmy to want her when he’s not good enough for her. And instead of taking the L and letting her go they want to make it seem like she was the one that got away. I don’t care if Carmy isn’t with Sydney and he ends up with a random girl or is single the whole show but Claire isn’t it.
claire should cut and run. she should've cut and run when she was given a fake number, but oh well
@@eg4441 that right there I’m not giving a guy another chance when proved he was willing to ghost me so easily
i saw a tweet from someone saying they stayed off twitter to avoid spoilers but came back and their weren’t any because there was nothing to spoil and that’s how i feel about this season.
a bunch of a questions are raised at the beginning of the season and not a single one is answered by the end. which is a bad move for a, in my opinion, boring/repetitive/drawn out season. it feels like half of a season stretched out into 10 episodes. it was also weird how little the interactions between the core cast were. it felt like the actors had scheduling issues so they replaced them with the faks.
very little changes from beginning to end. will he talk to claire? don’t know. will sydney leave? don’t know. will the review be good? don’t know. will the bear shut down? don’t know. will richie and carmy make up? don’t know. will carmy talk to his mom? don’t know. will carmy and sydney talk? don’t know. will richie go to the wedding? don’t know.
why are we dragging every question into season 4?
i feel like i could have just watched the first and last episode and i’m caught up for s4. i’m so disappointed i’m not even looking forward to s4 now. i’ll watch but my expectations are low. it had flaws in s2, but overall i enjoyed it. this season seems to say that the show will gradually get worse each season.
This is the comment!! You nailed it!
There was no resolution all season, for anyone. The core cast was together but basically didn't interact.
Get the Fak family out of here! We didn't need that many nor that much of them. The bits went on entirely too long.
Carmy didn't even meet his newborn neice as far as we know. I guess he was just too busy being agonizing over his 5 min relationship that he never even said he was in 🤷🏿♀️
@@msandrews87 yep! literally only one fak bit made me laugh was when he screwed up serving and that’s really just because i realized carmy was about to be pissed.
i literally cannot believe the faks when to the hospital instead of carmy. my jaw dropped when that was the end of the episode.
omfg i was waiting for him to apologize to claire so we could move on from that damn storyline. i can’t believe they managed to make that even more annoying and she didn’t even speak to carmy. i feel nothing for them and it’s like the writers are down on their knees begging me to care.
ugh i’m glad so many people seem to be on the same track for why this season was the worst. fingers crossed they take notes for next season.
Season three really had no direction and I wish they had set a goal ( ie food critics coming for a review and creating the right menu) that would’ve given better structure and a more linear plot to follow. I also agree and hate that it became very Claire centric and completely lost all the chemistry that Sydney and Carmy had developed. Sydney was barely in the season and nothing got resolved. It was quite disappointing
My goodness, you had me dying (of laughter), and that is such a lovely color on you! Someone posted somewhere else on another video about this season that Claire is a manic pixie dream girl with no manic or pixie and I agree. I'm confused about why they wrote her the way they did if they want us to believe she such an important figure in Carmy's life, not to mention they really dropped the ball on Ebra and Marcus for the Faks, it was funny the first time ONLY.
Thanks sis!! ❤️
I firmly believe the first episode was just a weird romanticization of Carmy. We'd already seen or been told all of that information before they just wanted to try and make us fall for his story again but we already have.
This entire season followed the theme of the abused becoming the abuser and it just didn't work the way they did it. You are absolutely right with the characters not calling Carmy out. There's only a few times where he's called an ass and then everyone just moves on and Carmy continues being an ass.
"Chef wouldn't have any staff left"
- anyone who has worked in the industry, about a quarter of the way into season 3
But that's not what the fallout between Richie and Carmy is about. Claire was just the catalyst for the argument. I was surprised that it went all season, but it was about deep cuts they took on each other, esp Carmy towards Richie, (loser, leech, can't take care of your kid?) FU was insufficient for that BS. Then, Carmy doubles down by being a complete nut w/his non-negotiable BS
Like, at least Richie forgave syd since he knew that he was in the wrong for how he treated in season 2l1.
another continuity thing was that Syd makes a fennel salad for first family meal but is allergic in s03. just interesting it's the same ingredient of all the ones to choose.
I think Carmy was actually lying in there as a moment of rebellion to serve the dish his way and against the EMP chef. But the use of fennel throughout the show defo has some significance I think
@@thebearlover23 I wondered if he was being sneaky! the rascal
You do know that people can suddenly develop allergies to things they’ve grown up eating, right? It’s not uncommon or out of the question. Some of you are reaching so hard to try and call them out for things because you’re so hurt about your ship being sunk. I know it sucks, but the show is still really great. Get over it or not, but the show will continue to be successful regardless of what Syd/Carmy shippers think.
@IndieCindy3 goodness so many assumptions! i do know about lats onset allergies, yes. I am not & have never been a sydcarmy shipper. I was just pointing out an interesting use of the same ingredient across seasons and it was pointed out that it was likely carmy being rebellious so he could plate his version of the dish - that's notable. you can disagree without coming for a commenter.
@@patchunicorn I agree, and I apologize for coming off so aggressive.
In episode 10 when Sydney showed up at Ever and Carmy greeted her... that was more chemistry than Carmy and Claire had in 2 seasons.
I stopped watching s3 after what felt like ten straight minutes of screaming back in forth between everyone. I was like, why am I forcing myself to watch this headache?
Boring season. Bunch of filler episodes. Terrible humor from the "funny" brothers....Not enough Oliver Platt. And the dialog...."Fuck this, fuck that"....so bad.
Season 3 was great. It connects Carmy’s past to the present. It helped me to better understand why he is so locked in. It shows his competitiveness, selfishness and other flaws. It shows how his mental health consumes him and impacts the people around him like Syd/ Richie. It definitely shows his stubbornness and pride. I can’t wait to see where things go in season 4!
your montage had me crying
This whole season was like a cluttered kitchen, yet also devoid of life. Idk, shit was meh to infuriating at times.
Also, since I just watched your video on Interview with a Vampire. I would HIGHLY recommend The Ones Who Live on AMC, like Twitter got me to watch it and oh yeah, how refreshing it is to see a dark skinned woman as a romantic lead and a great lead in general. Danai Gurira also wrote one of the episodes and its the best one. (Obie winning playwright Queen!) Richonne is is such a great couple and unlike The Bear basically the Showrunners, writers and both actors fully support and drive Rick and Michonne being together.
Such a good suggestion, love TOWL 💖
really wild how the creator/writers idk got so caught up in coddling the white woman tears of their own making that it halted any productive or emotionally genuine progression…. It is true to reality but in the worst way possible 🥴
What are you talking about?
When I saw the preview I said oh god, Claire ..l have only looked at episodes 1&2. I can't watch anymore Ive been listening to reviews, Hoping that I'm wrong about the way I'm feeling.
i'm still in shock over how bad this season was.
same, im literarlly like "WHAT HAPPENED?"
I want sydcarmy to happen but I enjoyed season 3. I’m hoping they’re going to make Carmy realise how much he needs Sydney once she leaves.
im so glad im not alone god ive never felt so gaslit by a show
This season just proved that sydcarmy voodoo is real
I fell asleep in episode 1 and found out that nothing happened. Then I struggled to get through episode 2-3 and I haven’t gone back and idk if I even care enough to finish the season. Also, everyone talks about Claire like she’s a magical fairy that farts money and I just don’t get it. I don’t think we got that many episodes with Her and Carmy for us to care if Claire is not around.
Chef Terry blowing a kiss to Richie of all people also rubbed me the wrong way. Felt so unrealistic, he was there for 5 days
They had a moment. He also wasn't a random person, she obviously took an interest in Carm and that was the reason he was there in the first place. Also, he literally came that day voluntarily to join the service team. That does warrant a blow kiss.
She also knew Syd for 30 mins and went to party in her tiny ass apartment so I think she's just that kind of person that doesn't have airs about herself and just easily loves people like that.
@@biharcourt still not convinced. She had a moment with probably everyone there and she singled out Richie of all people. It's a very personal gesture when their relationship is surface level, at best. Writers were pushing with this storyline in the first place making everyone on the staff suddenly LOVE Richie in less than a week.
@@biharcourt that's a fair point actually. I totally get what you're saying about chef Terry and I agree. My problem with the scene is because it's Richie receiving it. If it was Carmy or someone from the staff it wouldn't be weird.
i had to fast forward through the labor episode it was so boring the whole season 3 was frustrating to watch. the Tina episode was top tier though.
Thank you. Everyone was talking about their relationship, practically obsessing over it. He's reminiscing about it every 5 seconds even though it only lasted like, 2 months? The Fak's are going to her job to sing his praises? A reference or flashback in EVERY episode? Nat is calling her while in labor?!?!?! what are we doing right now
Season 2, Claire felt like a set up to address how bad Carmys boundaries are with his family, which I didn't like for her character but I understood. How she refused to take the hint and practically guilted him into a hanging out with her. How his family is going on about how great she is. How they all call her Claire Bear which I thought was meant to be kinda awkward in S2. How Carmy is visibly not always comfortable with her. Even how the family (especially the men) talk about Claire, as if she is the perfect OBJECT for Carmy. But no, apparently we were supposed to think he was genuinely in love and not going with who his family likes because he cares too much about their opinions on his life.
I mean, think about how his WHOLE family reacts to Claire. There is no way Carmy thought he could flat out say no to dating her without all of them making him feel terrible for it, probably for years. That would have been so interesting to explore. (and for the syd/carmy shippers, if the reason he can't adhere to his families wishes is because he's falling for Syd? How would the family react to that? Or their relationship?) This had so much potential in that way.
At this point, I'm genuinely wondering is Claire is a stand in for a person a writer on the show knows and loves in real life. Either this, or her solely being invented to trash any Carmy and Sydney romance, because if this character was always in the plan we would have known about her in season 1.
There's a curious connection I'm making right now and it's driving me crazy.
In the opening scene of The Bear season 3, Carmy is in an empty apartment and stares at a burn scar (which he and Claire have a vague discussion about later in memories), before he goes back to his restaurant to clean and write his bs non-negotiables. Then in epi 4 Sydney signs the lease to a new apartment that has similar windows. Then in the last epi (I think?) he asks Sydney if she got "the apartment" and congratulates her.
Did he find the apartment for Syd? And if he did, why is the show being so vague about it? And the burn, is there a hidden meaning to it apart from the fact that Claire asked about it? Ugh I don't know I don't know and it's killing me 😅😅.
I hope the pay off is worth it.
I'm in agreement with a good MANY of your assessments, & particularly as it pertains to the "F you" argument between Carmy and Ritchie which was TOO MUCH and for FAR TOO LONG.
But theeennn.... when Richie decided to actually SPIT at Carmy, I was TOO through.
As if this behavior, and the reasons behind it, weren't off-puttung enough - but now you want to add gutter-level disgust into the mix?? 😬😫💆🏽♀️
They took some ideas way too far while Others not far enough.
Also I don’t know if it’s just me but I feel like Claire’s character is a little immature for someone who’s supposed to be a doctor. She kinda acts like a naive teenager at times or like someone with little to no responsibilities. We don’t see her open up about the trauma and stress of working in the medical field.
She's a manic pixie fr
Totally agree with the missed storylines!! I do feel like S3 is better when u watch each episode in isolation l, which is frustrating because S1 and 2 was so enticing from the start
Girl, I couldn't remember who called the BS on the Claire subplot in S2!!!
"Save It For Later" by the English Beat is one of my all time favorite songs, but that soundtrack was overbearing because they were "bro" tunes for the older white guy chefs, not our younger protagonists...especially not Sydney, Tina, Marcus or Carmy--who, according to stats on who buys hip-hop, as a white dude, would be listening to a more than a little hip-hop. These 35 to 45 year old songs...no.
And even tho the camera lingers on the women and other chefs of color, the chatter was from the older white men...back to the music.
***I love the passion of your reviews. You should do more, please 🙏🏽 🎉
Why is The Bear so accurate?
I'll base my opinion off of nearly 3 decades working both FOH and BOH for two young chefs that blew up:
3 years in, this beloved show with the industry behind it and excited for it's future, read it's clippings and crawled so far up it's rear end that it became insufferable.
Towards the end of this 3rd season, it dawned on me. This show is actually perfect in a way Im sure the show-runners did not intend.
im sure this is a really good video but i was lowkey so disappointed when i looked at my recommended videos and saw this thumbnail, like i was so excited to watch the third season and i feel like its already been kind of spoiled without me even looking up a single review 😭
14:58 THAT PART! If the Faks have this nosy personality, then why aren't they conspiring to stop britta's wedding🤨🤨!? Lol
If they wanted season 3 to be about flashbacks, they should've extended the season and not waste episodes on one scene like Ep2 where they're arguing in the kitchen about non-negotiables.
I agree with all this but I still happened to liked the season for its cinematography, editing, and culinary cameos. It was a love letter to Chicago and the culinary industry. I liked seeing Carmy's culinary history. I think that was important. I did like the Faks. But yeah, the whole Carmy being butt hurt over Claire all season and Richie being mad at him because he hurt Claire and said mean things to him. He apologized, move on. He has no idea what Claire heard, why pick a fight with him while he's stuck in a freezer. It's like they were backtracking everything that has transpired from S1 to S2 and put great importance on that vague relationship with Claire. She literally haunted the season. Why? But the show still had laughs and a lot of heart and we could see that found family dynamic. And it would be a huge blow if Syd leaves. Syd was Natalie's 2nd call after Pete when she was in labor and heading to the hospital. Syd is important but Carmy is too stuck to see anything but Claire and his abusive ex-head chef. There was some continuity issues too as you mentioned but good season overall.
I couldn’t agree more. And yes everyone tells her to sign the contract because they believe it’s important for her to be there.
THANK YOU am tired of the glazing this season was not focused and not it
I watched the first and last episode and just read the episode descriptions for the in between. Episode 10 left me hopeful for season 4, but glad I did not waste my time on eps 2-9. Great review.
please please please do yourself a favor and watch episode 6! My favorite of the season. The cinematography was so much more dynamic (thanks ayo!) and the story is one of the only heartwarming moments of the whole season.
Watch episode 6 it’s really good, Tina has always been my fave since season 1
@@carmen_citykitty I will this weekend 🥰
@@manuelrojas7843 I will this weekend! 🤩
@@kimmykokoable yay enjoy!!
I honestly think season one was the best and season two was way too jam packed with way too many stars trying to act like characters. It was a distraction and felt over-crowded, at least for me. And the entire Claire thing was moot also.
I couldn't get past episode 2 and now I'm glad I didn't
THANK YOU FOR HONESTY!! I just started watching season 3 and im barely able to get through episode 1. Its soooo slow. I dont know if im going to be able to get through it and tht sucks because I really liked season 1 and 2.
I've watched episodes of Seasons 1 and 2 4 - 5 times. I haven't watched any of season 3 a second time.
I agree with a whole lot of what you said, but I do disagree that we were “stuck in the freezer” because of Claire’s hurt feelings/white woman’s tears. I’m not a Claire enthusiast; however, whatever happened in season 3 is so not her fault lol It was Carmy that was stuck and pretty much forcing the rest of the crew to stay frozen in that moment as well. He was absolutely awful all season long to everyone around him. Everyone had to step on egg shells around him 24/7 because this GROWN ASS MAN just refuses to actually properly and healthily acknowledge his trauma and grief. It honestly ruined the season for me. He was just too unlikeable. To be honest, he genuinely doesn’t deserve neither Claire nor Sydney at this point. BOTH ladies deserve better, he’s not well adjusted enough to treat either of them well.
Couldn't agree more. The entire season was pointless. They better release season 4 soon. Bc this season will sour people on this show.
Why do shows tend to mess up on season 3?? I’m nervous for White Lotus
carmy and sydney’s chemistry is so palpable i thought it was obvious that they would get together. when they introduced claire i was thinking she would just be around for a couple episodes and carmy would like her but see something is missing in claire to make him realize that sydney is the girl he actually needs… but nooo here claire is 2 seasons later… it’s insane the writers can’t see what’s right in front of them
Omg yes! I was so shocked they didn't do exactly what you described with Sugar's delivery. I thought all that stuff with her Mom went on way to long.
I didn’t finish the episode bc I felt like the point was made by the third time Sugar went along with the “Hee Hee Hees” breathing technique. Like ok they’re reconciling. Where’s the other characters?
@@lainadelpay exactly! I was thinking maybe the Mom was lying and didn't call her husband for her, so she would be the only one there with her. But when he finally comes I was like okay...where the hell is everyone else!? This cannot be it. Ugh it was so disappointing & they over did that part way to much.
I appreciate and respect your opinion, but dang does it feel cynical. I saw a character study in season 3 and pain, suffering, and turmoil which is a necessary path way to positive change and growth.
I agree with this. I really don’t care about his relationship with Claire, but Carmy is dealing with that, as well as the abuse he faced with his ex boss back in NY. I’m glad that the show didn’t rush through his arc because it would have been unrealistic for a character as avoidant as Carmy.
Yes me too. I understand why some people won't appreciate season 3 but I do. I even got to appreciate Claire a little bit more (although still not a CarmClaire shipper).
It's very realistic about how life can be stagnant sometimes and made me get Carmy even more while being totally frustrated by him lol.
I think this is a very important season and it's the one I've actually rewatched the most.
Such a well-worded review covering every point that went wrong in this season🔥. I have another complaint with this season, and that's having too many faks.
I think Sydney and Carmy being together is the most unimaginative thing the writers could do on this show and it cheapens both their relationship, making it cliche and less interesting than it is, and the characters (specially Sydney). You're allowed to think and like/dislike things and I totally respect it, but I hope they never go this route. I actually think S3 is a good character driven season to build up to an actual growth of the main character (while the other characters learns and gives lessons, he gives steps back) and it is why Carmy feels so stuck on Claire. Because Claire represents the idea of happiness (why the characters push him about it, because they know best and know part of his spiral is the denial of happiness caused by learning the wrong lessons... why Chef Terry POV is fundamental in the last episode) that he rejects due the toxic behaviour of his family and former boss. Anyways, I guess we are all allowed to see things our way and I like to see all POVs possible so your video is interesting even though I disagree with it a lot. I honestly don't want any drama, but I like to grow and develop my own writting and for this, I also need to dive into different POV. So, peace
I was watching some of episode one and had to pause it. Was dragging and checked some reviews out of curiosity. What a shame
I really liked the first episode because it was so meditative and felt like taking a breath but they should have returned to the pacing of s2. Instead, it felt like the whole season was a montage or adlibbed badly. I gget what they were trying to do in the end as well with the chefs but the whole effect is pretentious. It just wasn't a complete season IMO.
All of the best episodes in S3 didn't have Carmy tbh, which is a huge problem.
All of this is spot on, thank you 🥰🥰
I haven’t watched the last episode as of yet, but so far from what I’ve seen, if we’re supposed to believe after this that Carmy wants to make things right with Claire… I don’t see it. I think he has built her up in his head so much and if he can’t even call her, let alone send a text apologizing then I just don’t think it’s gonna happen BUT it does seem that she is still pining over him so she might just be waiting for him to call to take him back 😅
_Interview with the Vampire_ is the best show on television for sure. Thank you!
I’m not a fan on Claire and Carmy. However I don’t want Sydney and Carmy to happen. In the end Carmy is her boss and she is the employee. Leave the unnecessary romance out especially when Carmy is clearly not ready for one….PERIODT. I wanted the focus to be on the effect of season 2, the restaurant, and the employee friendships/dynamics for the remodel 😞.
He is not her boss, they are partners.
@@kaiwyatt8203 In the role of authority when it comes to the restaurant, Carmy is above Sydney. They may be partners when working but there is still an obvious power dynamic that cannot be ignored for a romance.
What a boring tv dynamic if that's the case.
@@keke8802 they're still not even partners cuz either lol Syd has yet to sign the paperwork and Syd is contemplating working for someone else because she fears she may not be able to trust Carmy and his chaos. When she was clearly having a break down about possibly leaving she reminisced about everyone that she enjoys working with there not just Carmy... I have reasons to believe why people keep pushing Carmy and Syd so heavily... and it's sad cuz it's what everyone clearly wants for themselves and not what's in the best interest of the characters. I agree with you completely, but I honestly can see Carm with Claire later down the road when he works through his trauma.
I was soo excited for this season bu I could only watch to episode 5 before giving up. I was bored out of my mind! They ruined everything good about the show. Too many faks, not enough SydCarmy, pointless vulgar fights, too many weird meaningless shots, ugh, im so mad just thinking about it. Saw some tweets talking about that how season 3 of shows set it up for a bomb 4th season, and im so confused, since when?? Because at this point i dont even have faith in the creators that the forth season will be any good either
Not the IWTV plug ☠️
I don’t get how S3 was supposed to start off just like S2 when S2 ended on a low note & S1 ended on a high note. It wouldn’t make sense for S3 to start off the same.
I so fast forwarded through the "love scenes". Talk about wasted seconds. I don't need that. It can be implied by a quick shot of a closing door
Sounds like you wanted more of the same. I did too. This is not that kind of series tho. The writers take chances and they made a deliberate choice to slow down and zoom in on the characters and in that they succeeded. I wanted resolution for the Claire plot but in real life things don’t wrap up in neat packages especially when the person is close to your family. Also remember they filmed seasons 3 and 4 together. Let’s see both seasons before we judge
This is a purposeful misunderstanding of the season. Richie and Carmy weren't at odds over fucking Claire, it was because of the constant menu changes among other things that were fucking over the waitstaff. How the fuck could you have possibly missed that?
She didn’t misunderstand anything. Carmy and Richie were fighting all of season 3 due to their unresolved blow up at the end of season 2 that was instigated by Richie seeing Claire crying because of Carmen. Their petty arguments over the menus and “non-negotiables” are fueled by residual resentment due to their argument that started about Claire. Idk how you aren’t following that.
I fast forwarded threw the birth episode and tina episode.
I just about cried during the birth episode, that ended up being really good and one of the best imo
I think Claire is meant to be the answer to Carm's problem of his dysfunctional family life and past trauma with Chef Douchebag. Like she is meant to be an emotional anchor point to an ideal balance of Carm's career and the personal life he needs to have. The people trying to romantically link Sydney and Carm are insane for mistaking a peer to peer relationship.
I think i enjoyed the season to be honest vewing it as a setup season which i believe it is it was solid and not as good as the first two but it was beautiful and i know season 4 is going to be the payoff
I do ABSOLUTELY agree that Syd and Carmy do have chemistry in the most unromantic ways 😂
Ya’ll are so goofy. The show was quite literally a meditation on purpose. It strived for a kind of natural aesthetic almost never achieved on television. Everyone seems to be whining about the missing points of drama and inexplicably destroying the Claire character for god knows what reason.
I just think television criticism sucks today. And this is a perfect example. Because it’s always about what the critic wanted the show to do rather than examine what it actually does.
The discussion here seems to imply that the manner this season was explored was some sort of freestyle experience. It is so incredibly intentional.
This is a just one long season of reckoning on purpose, what matters and what one can and can’t live with. It lets every character touch that touchstone. It’s not fun. It’s confrontational and ruthless and searing most of the time. It’s a tough hang. It’s an examination of what it cheekily alludes to at the final dinner, a trauma meal.
But it’s quiet, it’s a panic attack meets depression season arc that purposely makes you feel lost and stunted and broken.
I suspect the real reason most people criticize it the way they have comes down to this notion. It could give a fuck about happy ending or storyline goals. I thought it was absolutely brilliant and a completely draining watch. But that was the point. It was so visceral you wanted to eject from it. I’m not sure that lends itself to the type of critique suggested here. It simply challenges.
Yeah sure but pacing and impact matters. I just watched season 3 and I can't remember it. I remember every moment of S1 & S2. It explored the same themes, was always more character driven than plot driven but was just better written and executed. This season felt like one really long filler episode which lost all the charm of the previous seasons. There were also inconsistencies with how the characters were presented in previous seasons. Sure depression, exhaustion and lethargy can make people act differently but the differences in character dynamics just felt too stark. The dialogue was at times clunky, scenes and best points were drawn out for too long and we didn't learn anything new about the characters except for Tina and Syd. There is nothing wrong with acknowledging that.
Thank you, I honestly enjoyed it for how different it was, It was a bit hard for me in the beginning but I got used to it. I enjoy artistic types of writing and this felt more like a piece of art where you really a have to pay attention to the details and understand the underlying messages. I didn't enjoy the Faks as much, I think they were around a little to much and a bit too goofy for me this season. But at the end of the day I feel it all worked in its own way.
I loved season three
Claire is not the problem, fringe fans are. I really like that so far the actors and the writers respect the integrity of the show too much to make Sydney and Carmy a couple just for fan service,
Yes a lot of fans want Carmy and Sydney together but honestly it the way they wrote Claire. Carmy could end up with a random nobody one the street or be alone the whole series but them trying to focus Claire being the love is life is just draining. That flashback of them I literally don’t know what it was about being I was not interested at all.
@@lstarsabb nah, they’d be bitching either way.
I feel like the show is becoming so focused on carmey family too damn much. Especially the damn faks. Where is Sydney aunts, and uncles???
I can't believe you literally referred to the table scene as romantic. It's already bad enough that people have no ability to comprehend that having friendship or business partner chemistry doesn't automatically equate to romantic chemistry but the only argument people make for syd and carmy being potential romance partners is that they touched hands under a table. Literally that's it. Nothing else and that's because they have absolutely no romantic chemistry. They would never work as a couple and people only think they would cause of wishful thinking but when you actually think about that happening it makes zero sense and would never even happen let alone work.
I’m sorry but Camry & Syd very much gave romance vibes in that scene then any of Claire & Camry scenes in season 2. Most reactors pick up a romantic vibe from Camry & Syd. It’s not shippers fault that Camry & Sydney and have way more chemistry then the couple their trying to push.
Syd carmy shippers are delusional lmao literally nothing there
exactly, they pushing it too far. Sydney hardly wants to be partners with him in the restaurant, she has yet to sign the document to be partner because she doesn't know weather Carmy can be reliable... He is incredibly erratic and she has had to tell him to chill the F out because she's not his babysitter... lmao and people honestly believe they should be together haha.
Troll better.
@@MsNadz808 Cry about it.
Nailed it with the opening statement... but you lost me when you brought race into it with Claire.
Can you explain your reasoning behind this?
How many times can Sydney say "Um.." and "Oh..." ? It's very annoying.
I don’t know the same amount of time that Claire is going to pop up on screen and bore us to death.
I honestly never noticed
Love or hate Claire, it doesn't matter, what matters is the fact that Claire is important to Carmy same way Pet is important Nat. You are so hungry for plot and drama and you forget to remember that The Bear is basically a show about mental health. Episode 1 you are bashing is showcasing where Carmy is at, same way Marcus has his episode too. You didn't even give it atleast a month lmaoo. Go rewatch it, but this time open your heart and calm down.
Stay upset. Claire is a great character. Your misogyny is showing.
the writing of claire is literally misogynistic. a female character who exists solely for the male protagonist and is painted as a way to *fix* him? are u being serious?
@@femcults what part of the actress's choices has made you think that about her character?
@@femcults so you think all of the scenes involving her and her friend, or her in the hospital, which have nothing to do with Carmy, are invalid in some way?
And I'd still rather watch paint dry than willingly sit through her scenes so now what
@@LivsWings_ you admit you’re a misogynist. 🤷🏻♀️ women hating women aren’t immune to the consequences of being called a misogynist.