In Neutron, the Rhythm is actually one of MVP's least consistent discs for me. Some are definitely more stable than others (more like -1, 2), but I think that newer ones are more accurate to the flight numbers. If you want a Rhythm with more dome and understability, pick one up in fission plastic. They're very good for distance and control. Also, the Essence seasons in great and Discmania gives it very good glide. Great vid as always!
I probably have a new one! Flies really close to my Discraft Cicada! I have a Fission Rhythm and I found it to be a little straighter and more torque resistant than the Neutron. Love it for forehands and has just a smidge more dome.
I just got a Neutron Rhythm, already loving it over my 10+ speeds. Deadly straight at low speed, nice Hyzer-flip at high speed. What do you like yours for and how much did the flight change with wear?
There are so many discs in this slot that I’ll be doing another video with some of the other. Maverick, Drift, Leopard3 will probably be in the next one!
Yeah, review the essence again after 10 tree hits. Something about that neo plastic beats in really quickly. I’d bet you’ll find it to be similar to the rhythm after 1-2 weeks.
I have 2 different Essences and they fly very different. One is more like the stability shown in this video, possibly even more, and the other is much less stable. Definitely some variation in every mold. Love all 3 of these discs, really comes down to feeling in the hand in a lot of ways. They each feel very different. Personally, I like the neutron and fission combo for the Rhythm.
Feel is so underrated when selecting discs! Like I want to like the Essence on forehand, but the Neo was just too domey. Had a Meta Essence that was a smidge flatter and it was perfect…. Until I threw it into a lake.
I am planning to bag the Rhythm in Fission at 168g for precisely what was demonstrated in the review: hyzer flips on technical wood holes. Thanks for the reassurance.
Neutron Rhythm is a bit US, but the Fission ones are not. Essence beats in quick to a perfect US fairway. Passion has a, not mentioned, weird ass bulbous bead on the edge that feels awful for most people, but good for others. Long story short, I own and have throw all three, Essence all day everyday. Fission Rhythm is also great, just for different things.
I may have to pick a Rhythm up at some point. I use a Crave as my stable flier in the 7 range and originally was using an Underworld for my understable 7 speed but it is just too flippy now, and just not usable on forehand. I think they rhythm may be what I am looking for to slot between those two. I have the new Lat64 Royal Brave that needs to get put through its paces first though as it may have that kind of slightly understable flight too. If only the weather would cooperate a bit.
I miss the Underworld, might have to revisit it! How does the Crave fly for you and which plastic do you throw? I have the Crave in Proton, Plasma and Fission that I’ll be dropping a review on this winter. I find the Rhythm to fly in between the Proton (most understable) and Fission (slightly understable). While the Plasma is flat and holds torque really well!
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf I bag a Neutron Crave. It flies pretty much dead straight for me with a slight fade finish, but it is still quite new. As I get comfortable with it I feel like it is one of my most controllable discs and I can see myself using it a ton in tight woods courses. I have been bagging it over the Opto River I had in that slot. The Crave just holds up better on forehand and is more comfortable in hand overall. The Latitude 64 Brave looks like a less domey River and the Royal plastic is incredible so I am hoping it lands in that slightly understable slot. If not I will check the Rhythm out.
Were some of those shots at Cass Benton? Always good comparison vids! What weight were you throwing the Rhythm in? I'm looking for something in that slot, and I'm curious how light I should be looking to flip well, and how heavy to not worry about it not coming back once it does...
I'm surprised the MVP/Axiom is the flippiest of the lot. I would be interested to see how it compares to the Drift (same numbers), which in their translucent plastic holds pretty stable for me.
In my opinion the passion is more comparable to an S-line FD, I haven't had the same experience with a beat in essence, my 3 year old max weight flies a touch less stable than a brand new one. However in a plastic other than Neo maybe it differs.
I can’t wait to try the FD! I have it in C-Line but man it wasn’t what I was expecting at all 🫣. But heard the S-Line are a lot straighter and truer to their numbers. Might do a FD, Passion, Explorer video.
Fission Rhythm tends to have a little bit more glide, but Crave (my domey Proton) and Maverick definitely have more. Might have to do a video comparing all of them! How does the Drift compare to them?
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf yeah i would love to see all of them compared. drift crave maverick rhythm...and maybe another disc from different brand with a slightly flippy 6-8 speed.
Try to pickup a new swirly rim Proton insanity. Mine is more stable and torque resistant then the old ones. It 4hands really good and still gets some turn on Back hand. Very Similar to my old big z vulture.
The rythm flew like my relay and seems like MVP is not making any more relays i can't find any. I love throwing it low so it lands flat in it's turn so it skips straight. Very good for late gaps in the woods. Or aim at a tree and turn around it
I am loving the Insanity! Have a Neutron in the mid 160g that is fighting the Heat in my bag. Also a new Proton that as you said handles torque really well! Love that for forehand shots. And if I need insane beef….. Halloween Eclipse 😂
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf yeah mine is 172 but I noticed yesterday it doesn't have as much glide as my vulture. I hope your enjoying these warm day's and creating some videos. I really like my dx thunderbirds too just for Back hand. They fly very similar to the rythm. Try a 170-175 dx thunderbird. It's only 9 dollars and really good to have if it rains
Unfortunately they are not allowed to and I don’t want to get them into any trouble. Also living in Minnesnowta I can’t properly review any new discs until April/May 😢
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf that's fair... In the guitar TH-cam space, TH-camrs get early access to film and release on planned release dates to hit the hype train hard on release day. I guess it's different in disc golf TH-cam
I imagine a few people will mention this same thing: the Essence changes stability very quickly with a little wear on it.
In my experience the passion flies like a longer buzz. Great fairway driver.
I definitely agree with the stock runs. The Test Flight was straighter and stock had a little more bite to it. Similar for me to the Buzzz.
In Neutron, the Rhythm is actually one of MVP's least consistent discs for me. Some are definitely more stable than others (more like -1, 2), but I think that newer ones are more accurate to the flight numbers. If you want a Rhythm with more dome and understability, pick one up in fission plastic. They're very good for distance and control. Also, the Essence seasons in great and Discmania gives it very good glide. Great vid as always!
Good to know. I've only thrown the Rhythm in Fission plastic, but I'll stick with that.
I probably have a new one! Flies really close to my Discraft Cicada! I have a Fission Rhythm and I found it to be a little straighter and more torque resistant than the Neutron. Love it for forehands and has just a smidge more dome.
You'll have to pry the Rhythm from my cold, dead hands.
I just got a Neutron Rhythm, already loving it over my 10+ speeds. Deadly straight at low speed, nice Hyzer-flip at high speed.
What do you like yours for and how much did the flight change with wear?
Great comparison! Though I’m a little surprised you didn’t include a leopard3 in the mix. In the end, it’s always a passion 😉
There are so many discs in this slot that I’ll be doing another video with some of the other. Maverick, Drift, Leopard3 will probably be in the next one!
Yeah, review the essence again after 10 tree hits. Something about that neo plastic beats in really quickly. I’d bet you’ll find it to be similar to the rhythm after 1-2 weeks.
I’ll have to do that 😅. For the official Essence review, I’ll have to do a before and after.
So glad you know the correct way to throw - all those people using their right hands, pft!
😅 #teamlefty 💪
I have 2 different Essences and they fly very different. One is more like the stability shown in this video, possibly even more, and the other is much less stable. Definitely some variation in every mold. Love all 3 of these discs, really comes down to feeling in the hand in a lot of ways. They each feel very different. Personally, I like the neutron and fission combo for the Rhythm.
Feel is so underrated when selecting discs! Like I want to like the Essence on forehand, but the Neo was just too domey. Had a Meta Essence that was a smidge flatter and it was perfect…. Until I threw it into a lake.
I am planning to bag the Rhythm in Fission at 168g for precisely what was demonstrated in the review: hyzer flips on technical wood holes. Thanks for the reassurance.
They are good! I have heard the newer runs tend to fly correct while older runs might need to hit a few brick walls 😅
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf 🤣😂🤣 [Had to update my comment. Couldn't stand seeing the word hyper in place of hyzer. Autocorrect victim here.]
all great discs! however I don't care for the hand feel of the passion (it's rim) Nice Video!
It’s definitely a love it or hate it feel.
Neutron Rhythm is a bit US, but the Fission ones are not. Essence beats in quick to a perfect US fairway. Passion has a, not mentioned, weird ass bulbous bead on the edge that feels awful for most people, but good for others.
Long story short, I own and have throw all three, Essence all day everyday. Fission Rhythm is also great, just for different things.
I may have to pick a Rhythm up at some point. I use a Crave as my stable flier in the 7 range and originally was using an Underworld for my understable 7 speed but it is just too flippy now, and just not usable on forehand. I think they rhythm may be what I am looking for to slot between those two. I have the new Lat64 Royal Brave that needs to get put through its paces first though as it may have that kind of slightly understable flight too. If only the weather would cooperate a bit.
I miss the Underworld, might have to revisit it!
How does the Crave fly for you and which plastic do you throw? I have the Crave in Proton, Plasma and Fission that I’ll be dropping a review on this winter. I find the Rhythm to fly in between the Proton (most understable) and Fission (slightly understable). While the Plasma is flat and holds torque really well!
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf I bag a Neutron Crave. It flies pretty much dead straight for me with a slight fade finish, but it is still quite new. As I get comfortable with it I feel like it is one of my most controllable discs and I can see myself using it a ton in tight woods courses. I have been bagging it over the Opto River I had in that slot. The Crave just holds up better on forehand and is more comfortable in hand overall. The Latitude 64 Brave looks like a less domey River and the Royal plastic is incredible so I am hoping it lands in that slightly understable slot. If not I will check the Rhythm out.
I wonder how the lattitude river would compare in this list.
Haven’t thrown a river in years! I do recall it being super glidey!
I’ve been wanting to try the Passion
3:15 Forehand, and you threw all 3 differently. You take all that time editing, but you can't be arsed to take a shot over when it came out wrong.
Were some of those shots at Cass Benton? Always good comparison vids! What weight were you throwing the Rhythm in? I'm looking for something in that slot, and I'm curious how light I should be looking to flip well, and how heavy to not worry about it not coming back once it does...
Yup, had the pleasure to toss at Cass when I was in town for DGLO! I’ll have to double check, but I think it is around 167.
I'm surprised the MVP/Axiom is the flippiest of the lot. I would be interested to see how it compares to the Drift (same numbers), which in their translucent plastic holds pretty stable for me.
I’ll be picking up the Drift this year to try! Hoping to get a couple videos out with it.
In my opinion the passion is more comparable to an S-line FD, I haven't had the same experience with a beat in essence, my 3 year old max weight flies a touch less stable than a brand new one. However in a plastic other than Neo maybe it differs.
I can’t wait to try the FD! I have it in C-Line but man it wasn’t what I was expecting at all 🫣. But heard the S-Line are a lot straighter and truer to their numbers. Might do a FD, Passion, Explorer video.
I got a relatively early run of Rhythm, and that thing is a Teebird.
I’ve heard that was well! Glad the newer runs are a bit more on point.
RHYTHM is for me. Understable is good.
I had a perfect essence that was beat in and lost it so now I just rock all craves to underworld
😭 Crave is definitely a good option! I have a domey Proton Crave that flies how I thought the Essence would.
Love my Essence. 🥏
Essence starts pretty stable but loses it quite fast .
Good to know! I’ll have to keep throwing it and give an update!
I’ve been really struggling with doing much of anything with anything that’s not super understable. My form is shot these days 😂
I had the same issue in 2022. Found I was releasing everything on hyzer. Took a bit to get back to throwing flat.
Drift Proton, Crave Proton, Maverick Lucid? rhythm looked like it had less glide.
Fission Rhythm tends to have a little bit more glide, but Crave (my domey Proton) and Maverick definitely have more. Might have to do a video comparing all of them! How does the Drift compare to them?
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf yeah i would love to see all of them compared. drift crave maverick rhythm...and maybe another disc from different brand with a slightly flippy 6-8 speed.
@@aftertheburial420 probably a Leopard3
Try to pickup a new swirly rim Proton insanity. Mine is more stable and torque resistant then the old ones. It 4hands really good and still gets some turn on Back hand. Very Similar to my old big z vulture.
The rythm flew like my relay and seems like MVP is not making any more relays i can't find any. I love throwing it low so it lands flat in it's turn so it skips straight. Very good for late gaps in the woods. Or aim at a tree and turn around it
I am loving the Insanity! Have a Neutron in the mid 160g that is fighting the Heat in my bag. Also a new Proton that as you said handles torque really well! Love that for forehand shots. And if I need insane beef….. Halloween Eclipse 😂
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf yeah mine is 172 but I noticed yesterday it doesn't have as much glide as my vulture. I hope your enjoying these warm day's and creating some videos. I really like my dx thunderbirds too just for Back hand. They fly very similar to the rythm. Try a 170-175 dx thunderbird. It's only 9 dollars and really good to have if it rains
Passion feels too deep for me and a kept grip locking it. Used a power grip. Gotta use power grip above speed 7
Have you tried the Zen II? I’ve found that disc to push farther forward than the stock Neo Essence.
I have not! Is that the tour series Essence?
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf I believe it is the Nate Perkins Meta Essence.
Can Great Lakes hook you up with early Pixel & Eagle Prism Protein Envy
Unfortunately they are not allowed to and I don’t want to get them into any trouble. Also living in Minnesnowta I can’t properly review any new discs until April/May 😢
But if weather permits, I will get out as early as possible! Want to begin filming reviews of the Pixel, Detour, Rollo and Kratos as soon as possible.
@@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf that's fair... In the guitar TH-cam space, TH-camrs get early access to film and release on planned release dates to hit the hype train hard on release day. I guess it's different in disc golf TH-cam
I liked the Rhythm, until I started throwing Craves…
Crave is an awesome disc! Can’t go wrong with it.
Anyone know what course he was playing at 3:52?
That was Cass Benton Hills in Michigan.
Was that hole 4 BRP?
A shot of it did make an appearance!
I don’t understand the hype with the passion. It’s gotta be a leopard3
Looking forward to throwing a leopard3 this year!