Can crypto companies get bank accounts? - Episode 134

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  • Cas Piancey and ‪@bennettftomlin‬ discuss the evolving banking situation in the cryptocurrency industry, and how hard it is for companies to maintain banking relationships.
    This video was recorded on October 9th, 2023.
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    Additional episodes mentioned in this episode:
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    Episode 101 - Banking on Regulators - A FTX Story (Recorded Live)
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    Episode 106 - Crypto Banks Give Up
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    Episode 116 - The FDIC, Infinite Insurance, and Moral Hazards (feat. Rohan Grey)
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    Episode 6 - Crypto Capital Corp: the quiet billion dollar cryptocurrency scam
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    Episode 119 - Binance and Coinbase Sued by the SEC (feat. Dirty Bubble Media)
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    Episode 7 - QuadrigaCX: the Canadian cryptocurrency exchange that just won’t die
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    Episode 60 - The Foul Financials of Cryptocurrency (Feat. Francine McKenna)
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    Episode 44 - Poker’s Black Friday (Feat. Jason Bral)
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    Episode 1 - Tether: A Stable Discussion
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    Episode 2 - Tether: A Stable Discussion Continued
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    Episode 81 - Bitcoin ETFs, Regulatory Clarity, and the SEC (Feat. James Seyffart)
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    Episode 133 - Did Sam Bankman-Fried’s Defense Blow It? (feat. David Z. Morris)
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    Additional resources:
    CoinDesk article about Bitstamp
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    Protos article about Prager Metis
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    Protos coverage of Moonstone
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    #crypto #cryptocurrency #podcasts #listenable #banks #banking

ความคิดเห็น • 56

  • @Roger_Smith
    @Roger_Smith 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    the problem is that in the process of becoming acceptable clients for banks these companies/exchanges become unacceptable to the crypto users

    • @RandallFlaggNY
      @RandallFlaggNY 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You can't always get what you want, Roger. But if you try sometime, you just might find you get what you need...

    • @Jordan-Ramses
      @Jordan-Ramses 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you're a bank why deal with them? You're just going to have to give John Ray III all the money back in a couple years. They're all ponzi schemes.

  • @doomerdog1712
    @doomerdog1712 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly my favorite parts of these episodes are the ads for Cas coins. To the moon!!!

  • @Dre2Dee2
    @Dre2Dee2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Crypto: We will free ourselves from the slavery of Banking!!!!
    Also Crypto: Hey uh... can I get a bank account, please?
    🤣🤣🤣

  • @fakename1656
    @fakename1656 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Stacking up my Cas coin by hitting the like and leaving a comment. Great works as always you two

  • @jimpollard9392
    @jimpollard9392 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    CasCoin is going tooda moon, I'm sure.

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I’m legally barred from agreeing, but obviously

    • @fakename1656
      @fakename1656 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A crypto I can get by hitting the like button is the best, don't got real dollars to get hustled by other coins

  • @RonaldoLuizPedroso
    @RonaldoLuizPedroso 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    💎🙌 CasCoin Guys

  • @jimpollard9392
    @jimpollard9392 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Banks have these "know your customer" rules (watch Al Pacino's "Scarface" to see why), and crypto, by design, is supposed to be all about anonymity. So we have a bit of a culture clash, don't we?

    • @winstonwolfe2537
      @winstonwolfe2537 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly! The very identity of crypto currencies is entirely at odds with the attempts of any rule of law system such as all Western Democracies to prevent money flow for criminal activity. There is only one mystery here: why is the existence of crypto currencies not yet outlawed?

    • @fakename1656
      @fakename1656 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was gonna disagree with the example of that jp Morgan guy with epstein in the Virginia islands until I realized he knew his customer and used his services

  • @JamesBond-uz2dm
    @JamesBond-uz2dm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Crypto currency is everything you don't know about computers, combined with everything you don't know about money. Good luck with that.

    • @HidingFromFate
      @HidingFromFate 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      lol, that's pretty good. Did you come up with that phrase, or witticism yourself? If yes, well done.

    • @fakename1656
      @fakename1656 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indeed I am gonna steal that like ftx deposits

  • @bc-guy852
    @bc-guy852 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    News Flash. Two guys had lunch and talked about the future possibities.

  • @hec0b
    @hec0b 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loved this episode. Loved the “fight” over whether ftx customers were like online poker addicts back in the day

  • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
    @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Reassuring to know Cas Coin isn't like the other coins...

  • @back2d_lobby
    @back2d_lobby 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very strong predictions. All will ring true, and then some

  • @SamRocher
    @SamRocher 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Really good discussion! As someone who sells adult content online, I can say that crypto companies have a much easier experience working within the grey area of banking than we do since they at least have financial power they can entice them with XD The stance banks take aren't based on morality, but entirely on trying to maintain a not-super-negative public perception, so I think the future really depends on which political party politicizes crypto as a whole. Really interested to see what comes from the SBF trial and how that is manipulated to serve their needs.

  • @historichistory9992
    @historichistory9992 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I have not read the article - but simple question - is it even true? We've seen so many claims in the crypto space that are just taken as true at face value and they turn out to just be lies.
    If I was a crypto company of course I'd want to say i was possibly partnering in the future with a bank- but if I was serious about it i wouldn't announce it in public- it'd hurt my negotiating position.

    • @fakename1656
      @fakename1656 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not when your desperate to use those banks and reassure your own customers

  • @codygunter4379
    @codygunter4379 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Oh hell yes, what a great way to cruise through my Friday morning. Thanks guys, but I was curious why I couldn't withdraw my cas coins?

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      You’ll be able to withdraw once we get a few more ‘donations’

    • @alexamadams
      @alexamadams 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@CryptoCriticPodjust 3-6 more months till you get that new banking partner!

  • @stephenschiavone8592
    @stephenschiavone8592 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why do Crypto Exchanges need banking? The whole goal of the Crypto Movement is to eliminate the current banking system due to the 2008 financial crisis. Remember?

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Because the purpose of an exchange is to facilitate trades, often explicitly people who want to convert their fiat into crypto, and so banks need a way to manage the fiat portion of that

    • @gotamd
      @gotamd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not everyone wants to mine all their cryptocurrency or do peer-to-peer trades.

    • @stephenschiavone8592
      @stephenschiavone8592 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CryptoCriticPod Sorry Bennett and Cas, it was actually more a snarky comment then a question.

  • @nunyabizness573
    @nunyabizness573 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow! This is the first time I have heard Sam Bankman Fried use the excuse that they didn't have a bank! Thanks for that!

  • @EtherealAriel
    @EtherealAriel 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    They should just make the exchanges register as what they are -Casinos, and tax the profits as what they obviously are - Gambling Winnings.

  • @wuldntuliktonoptb6861
    @wuldntuliktonoptb6861 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The SEC hasn’t been having much luck with these lawsuits. Honestly it would be nice to have someone who’s not asleep behind the wheel and finds out there’s a problem when and files for bankruptcy. The point of the SEC is to find the bad apples before the entire infrastructure burns to the ground.

    • @Bprice1000123
      @Bprice1000123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The SEC stopped following its own rules and starting following the rules of select private interests like 2 and a half decades ago.
      Every system is so fully fraudulent that only the justice department has a chance at changing anything, and I’d say slim to 0 chance that happens.
      You aren’t investing, You’re being harvested.

  • @riotintheair
    @riotintheair 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wait, are you saying is that CasCoin Bank is a 501c3? Contributions to it are tax deductible? Excellent! [\s]

  • @hugoedelarosa
    @hugoedelarosa 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What do I do if my Cas Coin gets seized? Asking for a friend 😢

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Talk to Burrito

    • @chrisretford6627
      @chrisretford6627 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can we talk to Burrito even if we don't have any CasCoin?@@CryptoCriticPod

  • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
    @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Moonstone"? Aw man the Moon never asked for any of this. Leave the Moon alone, Crypto/FinTech/Disruptor Bros!!

  • @nunyabizness573
    @nunyabizness573 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could you guys please do a video on Sam Bankman Fried's insurance fund, which was purportedly fraudulent?

    • @CryptoCriticPod
      @CryptoCriticPod  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Caroline Ellison Describes Sam Bankman-Fried's Crimes (feat. Nikhilesh De) - Episode 135
      th-cam.com/video/i4HUeH_r7w8/w-d-xo.html

    • @nunyabizness573
      @nunyabizness573 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CryptoCriticPod Thanks! I'll listen. You guys are definitely providing details that most other You Tubers aren't.

  • @coffeemakir1977
    @coffeemakir1977 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like how it looks like cas is streaming in his bathroom 🤘

  • @a1-user
    @a1-user 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Crypto should full tilt into defi.

    • @bacool
      @bacool 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ah yes “defi”

  • @impale_an_eel_its_fun
    @impale_an_eel_its_fun 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    so i guess crypto needs banking, I thought that was the whole reasoning behind crypto in the first place? is that not the case?

  • @benjaminaristotleboes3157
    @benjaminaristotleboes3157 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    NEW STUFF!!!! YAY!!!!!!