How This Pop Song Can Destroy Your Computer
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In around 2005, an undisclosed PC manufacturing company discovered that certain models of their laptops would unexpectedly crash if the user played Janet Jackson's 1989 hit "Rhythm Nation" nearby.
What on earth is happening here? Is the song a form of secret malware? How can it be fixed?
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I think I will
I don't feel like it
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There is a way to do it on modern computers but it involves an extra step.
If you play the song near a modern laptop while also pressing or holding down the power button, it causes the machine to shut down.
Trying it out right now im so exci
Goddamit, I actually thought that made sense for a moment. >.<
That's clever.
@@AlexReynard It actually makes sense. The only difference is: that's the expected behaviour and not happening accidentally! 😁
COOL!
The song force shutdowns the PC. It even shows the bios to shut it down.
GOSH DAMN IT GORDON STOP PLAYING JANET JACKSON IN THE TEST CHAMBER
Resonance cascade reference
glad to oblige a fellow scientist
Yes Gordon. He's right. Stop now.
quieres matarnos a todos??
Oh, hello Gordon.
*dies*
Janet Jackson, superstar singer by day, vigilante hacker by night
lol
Why is Paul McCartney talking in NationSquid's video 💀💀💀💀
Indeed, he even plays Helter Skelter at 7:20
holy shit 😂
Why you need skull emojis?
@@intelinsidecomputer who cares? stop focusing on stupid stuff
@intelinsidecomputer why do you need to ask?
Fun fact to only me: Rhythm Nation was the first CD my parents bought me, preceding years of debating and budgeting which albums would be purchased on CD and which would be on tape. I made pretty good choices, as I still have the vast majority of CDs I’ve collected since 1990. OK, back to the video lol
Thanks auntie
This comment takes me back to when I was a kid and my older brothers would take me to buy CDs with them. Because we had so little allowance between the three of us we always bought albums that were popular or were being recommended by the sellers. I much prefer the current time of being able to discover new artists and genres using the TH-cam algorithm without ever having to leave the house over being too broke to afford to listen to something different.
I got the album that was the first thing ever sold online: *Ten Summoner's Tales* by *Sting* . 😁
Thanks to cd not those vynil discs that played song wrong and scratchy
@@CyanRooper I grew up with a great used record store nearby (that is still around) and I loved that I could buy used tapes and CDs, or trade in ones I'd purchased and didn't like and put the store credit towards something else. And I completely agree with you about accessing new and old music now. I've discovered so many great bands via streaming. And then I'll go to their shows, buy merch, etc and support however I can.
Another one of a kind video, from a channel so uniquely special on this platform. Youve got such well-researched and interesting videos, and you may also be the one channel that I don't skip the sponsored bits. Love your stuff, NationSquid!
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shush let a brother make his bread!! loads of people spend more on door dash daily anyway, so there’s deffo a market
@@d.b.cooper1all these scam companies profiting off creators’ enthusiastic promos can go under for all I care
3 dollar meals for 13 dollars because someone else prepared them. You can make them for 3 dollars, sure, but you aren't going to convince someone else to do it for you for free.
9:32 I heard radio stations intentionally play songs faster so they can cram more advertisements between the songs
My neighbor, who is in his 60s, swears up and own a Britney Spears song set his PC on fire somehow in the mid to late 2000. That's a crazy story.
some music cds back then had rootkits. sony was one of the offenders.
Pretty much every second file available for download on limewire potentially did the same back then.
Was it "Oops!...I Did It Again?"
Audio engineer & radio person here:
On our station we generally don’t up pitch songs mostly, and usually we’ll cut verses etc to have versions to make up time. Sometimes we’ll speed it up to 5% but you really don’t wanna be messing with the pitch there, it makes most modern music weird.
Also any decent turntable is quartz locked to have less than 0.2% deviation from perfect speed. The pros of vinyl is that it can store well above 20khz so if you slow it down it still sounds pretty good (you need a microline or similar & 96khz sampling or higher to use this.., but almost every vinyl after the mid 80s is digitally made with lot to no data above 22kHz. The other pro is lifespan. There’s no bitrot issues on a vinyl unlike CD / DVD, HDD, SSD etc…
The life to vinyl also comes from the rumble and clicks etc… that are all considered 'erronious’ by engineers!
With the bios thing, that’d be easy to run on modern hardware but would need a rogue update / factory to install. Its big effect would be with airgapped systems.
For context, a basic 192khz sound card can send all the data of an fm signal, mono, stereo and rds data. It’s easy on any decent sound card to send data above hearing ranges.
Bit rot is only really an issue for really early CDs and cheap CD-R/CD-RW and DVD-R/DVD-RW discs. Outside of writeable/re-writeable discs, optical discs that were produced and sold as read-only from the mid-90s onward won't experience bit rot for at least a few centuries, and unlike vinyl, you can create infinite lossless copies and backups from a single disc. The bigger concern with optical media is scratches and delamination from improper handling and storage, and optical sensors failing.
Vinyl begins to taper off between 16 and 18khz, which is why people prefer it, it sounds "warmer" because of the signal loss. I have a massive vinyl collection but the signal to noise ratio and frequency response of even the best players and stylus cartridges can never match CD. Even though we can perceive frequencies above 20khz I have my doubts other than pleasing harmonic distortion that vinyl can hit above 20khz, physics is at play and that can destroy a lot of needles.
Fellow audio engineer here.
@@MrNEWDY Also doesn't help that a lot of early CDs were pretty awfully mastered since audio engineers of the time weren't used to working with the new format. Then you had the "loudness war" of the 90s and 2000s where everyone was competing to have the loudest wall of sound. The CD format was dealt a pretty bad hand by factors completely unrelated to its quality as a format.
Was that same thing in the 2000s?
@@MrNEWDYyeah vinyl sounds worse than cd, played songs at different than real recording speed, have worse dound quslity and scratches with time. But its fashionable now
"we're gonna drop acid upstairs!" help??? 😭 nationsquid ur always catching me off guard
NationSquid: Born in the era of young millennials / older gen Z, transforming into Sgt. Pepper, with a voice like NileRed.
I don't know where I was even going with this. Maybe a multi-generational thing? Pay me no mind.
just realized he sounds like NileRed
No, it’s Nigel red
So that radio station clip is from Kiis 1065 in Sydney Australia, i am about 99% sure they faked it for virality.
Pretty sure you can see old mate hitting the power switch when it goes black too
So it'd be 66% then if it was from Austria.
@@Thiesi 👎🏻 ¡ǝʇɐɯ ʇɔǝɹɹoɔ
@@DubiousDeither that or set the screen timeout.
Yes, it's fake. At least one of them runs Windows 11. On a magnetic hard drive at 5400 rpm, the venue would have long closed by the time that laptop has finished a single boot to desktop.
whoever used Sponsorblock to clip around the "When you Microwave your Factor meals" bit unintentionally created the funniest hard cut ive seen all week. Such precision!
when you microwave your... "meals" 🤗
@@dreamofmaizie factor, it's just "'food'"!!
Broski really just wanted play his guitar & have a sing song so made a 17min vid around it
12:08 “and the machines are running Windows 11”
*shows a Windows 10 laptop*
I understood the meaning of what he was saying, I’m just kidding
@@matticolo I don't get it, do you mean how Windows 11 is functionally identical to 10?
@@BOplaid the laptops shown are running Windows 10. You can tell that by looking at the taskbar, it’s the one with the 2015’s logo =D
I swear to god, I never like to skip his sponsors, they are too good
What are those about? I use a custom app and it won't let me see any ad😅
@@juansotelo3996 TH-cam vanced? I have it too lol, but I changed the settings on mine so that I can skip sponsor segments (so I can choose to watch the segments if I want to)
I never skip these though because they're actually creative and fun, basically just fun little skits pertaining to the video while also advertising whatever the sponsor is (in this case it was Factor, a company where you can get meals delivered to your door to cook)
@juansotelo3996 it skips a part of the video for you?
I think it's worth switching to normal yt or switching the adblocker off for Nation Squid videos.
In this video there's an old fashioned ad (someone in one comment said it's the style from the 60s but I don't know). It has this one kind of voice over everyone recognises and even a laugh track. 😂
The creepy pasta video or the one about scary yt videos (can't remember which one, it's been a while) has an ad which was a parody of the Ring. I can't remember the other ones but every one of the recent Nation Squid's videos has one.
@@grellowny6978 yes, is a custom YT app, ads, sponsors, banners...etc all blocked
2:09 if im not mistaken there were VRChat avatars that could crash your entire game just based on sound
They were based on flooding you with particles until your system couldn’t handle it anymore. Most of them would play incredibly loud music just to be annoying while doing so.
@2:15 This also might be humanity's key to one day defeating Skynet!
I was just listening to the song out of curiosity and while doing so i was deleting files off of my secondary drive (which is a HDD) and it was genuinely stalling while the music was playing. I paused it and the files immediately deleted.
Bass the unappreciated instrument.
Yep...
"I know it's Michael, not Janet; shut up!" 😂
To be honest a ksi song could destroy computers.
Edit: how the hell did I get 440 likes in day 💀
From the screen
To the ring
To the pen
To the king
@@jonathanthegooberwhere’s my crown
When your PC isn't part of the rhythm nation,
6:23 Bass is the onion of music
garlic
Nutmeg. Take too much and you die (of funk)
It has layers?
@@GardenData61371yes
7:21 That face had me laughing harder than it should
This is almost the plot of the Patlabor movie (1989), though in that case it was a deliberate bug in the operating system.
Why would that 60s dad be okay with his kids dropping acid? I mean, wouldn't that burn a hole in the shag carpet?
And here I was expecting it to be Rick Astley.
12:08 That’s Window 10, not Window 11.
Also: too thin for a mechanical hard drive? SATA SSDs are just as thick as 2.5 inch HDDs. And those are, very, much thinner than 3.5 inch HDDs.
@@fairphoneuser9009he didn't specify a sata SSD so what is even the point you're trying to make. Most if not all modern laptops use a M.2. Also from what I can see the sticker is Intel 11th gen or newer.
@@acasualmusiclistener7919 Most laptops still didn't get that much thinner and could still contain a SATA SSD/HDD.
@@fairphoneuser9009 if you're talking about AliExpress then sure but every reputable brand has moved to M.2 SSDs or soldered memory. Some budget laptops could contain space for a sata drive but it is left empty as it is cheaper to use eMMC memory instead.
@@fairphoneuser9009 The Sony Vaio X505 from 2004 was extremely thin and it had an HDD.
These advertisements are so good it makes me actually watch them
12:09 I have a Lenovo laptop with a HDD inside that has similar dimensions and that laptop shown clearly has a Windows 10 taskbar
Yeah, what is this guy? Think we're rich. I haven't ever used a solid state drive
Awesome video. Love the concept of connecting seemingly disparate things.
Second Beatles-related login username after Baby's In Black Windows 98
13:54 I completely believe it's possible. But you'd have to intentionally create something that is vulnerable to this attack.
7:21 Bro played does guitar strings like his life depended on it 😭😭
if you mess with that song, you get the... long...horns?
LOL windows longhorn great joke
@@lucythedemonpuppy4222 there's also an easter egg in the intro, next to the "amount of f's i give" word file, there's a briefcase called "Longcase". Pretty clever since Microsoft was not very happy about the LH leaks
windows reference‼️
@@gonderage hello everybody my name is leenus sebastian
2:41 BLASPHEMY! This man is handsome and you will not change my mind!
rhythm nation is a really good song, the way it changes key for the main line of the chorus.
Dude. Your subtle Beatles references get me EVERY TIME. as an IT major who is also a huge Beatles fan, the line about the dentist and your coffee is so insanely specific that I feel so proud that I understand it. Love love love your videos brother. You’re awesome
I work at a record store and I love seeing the old chipmunks albums! The beatles one is one of my favorites! Another record i love is titled Harmonicats-- not chipmunks related. The ronald McDonald 33s freak me out
I had never heard resonant frequency explained by mentioning swinging on a swing. That's genius!
You're slightly mistaken; there’s more specific information regarding this. Several J-pop, MMD dance, and synthesized computer music tracks can still affect solid-state devices-not the actual function of the SSD, but more the circuitry and touch frequency of many smart speakers. Certain songs, played at just over half volume, can vibrate the device enough to cause it to reset. If you're streaming music in group speaker mode, the music continues playing while the unit reboots. Once it restarts, the same vibrations can trigger another reboot, creating a loop. Even if the music pauses and resumes after rebooting, the process repeats.
Additionally, there are several songs that can still affect personal home servers, which use mechanical drives rather than SSDs. This relates to the resonant frequencies of fans and other electronic components, including RAM. I’ve seen this happen, particularly with Google Home speakers. Despite claims of a fix, the issue persists due to the vast range of music and playback methods. However, you're correct about the effects of high-pitched or deep bass synthesized music.
There's a video fo a guy yeeling at a JBOD causing the latency to spike up - literally "old man yells at cloud".- But the JBOD didn't crash, it returned to normal operation once he stopped yelling.
2:43 WHAT'S WITH THESE HOMIES DISSIN' MY GIRL
7:57 This is a misconception. Microwave oven operate at 2450MHz, which is way below the resonance of water molecules. If they were tuned to that frequency, the food would only heat on the very surface. Some bigger ovens for heating chunks of meat actually operate at 915MHz. Yes, 2450MHz (2.45GHz) is almost right in the middle of the 2.4GHz Wi-Fi band, and if your oven has a bit more leakage, your Wi-Fi can be knocked out. And no, microwaves don't cause cancer.
I got a pair headphones that operates at 2.4 GHz~ when standing next to the microwave while it's running the sound cuts out sometimes lol
@@Karthor. It’s quite common. The microwave oven at my shop (2-car garage) does the exact same thing, when I heat bearings in there, for example. Or anything really.
@@jaakkolehto1487 Yeah i've had 2 different microwaves and both do the same with my headphones was scared first it was leaking microwaves lol, thank you btw for the bearing tip didn't know you could microwave it gonna use it when i'm restoring my old Yamaha DT50MX engine :)
Probably one of the funnier and most creative Factor ad's I've seen in awhile. Surprised they signed off on an ad mentioning skunks, grass and acid 🤣
Music could break a computer if it got to the thick of it.
The computer will automatically delete system32 or do rm - rf / --no-preserve-root if it was forced to play that lmao! 😅
I'm gonna be honest, you kinda blew my mind as I always thought this was an urban legend.
As a side note, I would totally watch you if you had a music channel. You explained music theory in a way that makes my brain happy, and blew me away as to why people love vinyl records so much. I never comment, but I had to say something for this awesome video.
Hey, thanks for posting this! I was kind of disappointed to see OP turn 2 sentences into a 17 minute video and it felt like he'd entered his decline era. Turns out it just happened to be a topic I was familiar with for once and I just had a main character moment.
I hope this makes sense. My point is that your comment made me stop and go "Oh right, different viewers know different things... just like all those other videos he has made on things you don't know about"
If you don't crank the volume for Rhythm Nation... classic
as soon as you mentioned the e chord for peggy sue my blood went Cold because as a ukulele player, the e chord is my least favourite chord to play because it makes my hand cramp soooo bad. of COURSE the dreaded e chord was the culprit… (joking)
Damn dude I'm digging the George Harrison cosplay.
Plz tell us more about that Chipmunks Beatle vinyl!
I haven't read all of the comments, so this may have been asked already... The original sample used to create "Rhythm Nation" was from Sly & The Family Stone. Is it safe to assume that the same chord exists in the original sample source? Has it been tested at all?
That's exactly what I thinking. Wonder if "Thank You" would do the same thing although I suspect Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis added new digital layers on the Janet track.
I think the computers did not like that song and that's the real reason why they crashed.
My man is holding the laptop in a really interesting way. The first clip is the power button, and the second clip the laptop battery.
When Janet sang that "Rhythm Nation" would really make your circuits fry, she meant it.
new video just dropped while im at school, i aint going to do work
12:09 that is Windows 10. And although it's very rare now, there are still some new computers that come with 2.5" 5400RPM HDDs.
Super interesting video, and loved the little guitar moment 🎸 nation squid rocking out!
7:08 i never thought I'd see a resonance cascade, let alone experience one
Quite the channel journey to go from creepypastas and args to tech vlog.
This reminded me of a phone phreaking trick from the 1970's. Someone discovered that if you blew a Cap'n Crunch toy whistle at 2600 Hz (or something like that) near a payphone that someone else was talking on, the tone would cause the call to disconnect. It might have worked on analogue landline phones too. Thankfully that trick is obsolete today.
the windows 11 laptop shutting down seemed to be a genuine reaction, but my guess leans towards their movements causing the battery to disconnect such that it turned off
"I think there's a Skunk infestation in my house, but I'm not repulsed by it. I'm just hungry all the time"
Yeah, buddy you got an infestation of the rare Jamaican Skunk. Get yourself some Doritos and some mtn Dew and crank that innagaddadavida
Another reason this would be hard today too is because, as you said, hard drives may run at a slightly different frequency, but besides SSDs, hard drives have changed a lot. Also, in a workstation, NAS, or server scenario, most enterprise hard drives are designed with vibration dampening to make them safe to run a lot of hard drives at the same time close together, so that would be almost impossible with those hard drives given their intentional design. Also, I've even seen consumer hard drives that will pause if the drive is shook or moved, so it may cause momentary lag, but the computer would probably not crash because of a song. Lastly, in the case that this is something that's already known about and was only released to the public as of late, chances are most manufacturers would've got word and put safeguards in place.
However, I will say about the validity of this, to me, the fact they mentioned you may need good speakers to cause this however it happened on a lot of older laptops, that's kind of a contradiction. Unless those owners used external high quality speakers, the majority of laptop speakers, especially in the early to mid 2000s were pretty low quality, especially in the low end frequencies.
12:00 There actually exist super-thin HDDs designed specifically for laptops, and even smaller form factors for mobile devices.
Great video as always. Thanks for your content!
I thought my laptop was restarting for a moment there.
It's already four minutes, and you are talking about 50s rock 'n'roll and 60s musical structures. If you give your point and then dig deeper, it could be more engaging-at least for me. By the way Peggy Sue cover was nice.
80s songs bring me back to 2005s, my early childhood.
That's funny, I always avoided turntables that have incorrect pitch or attempt to adjust the pitch. I like playing them at the correct speed.
these vids are cozy. keep it up
4:00 Pleasantville reference lol
Instructions unclear, poured coffee into hard drive.
0:56 How kind did the hard-drive have to be? Like donating to charity and helping old ladies across the street or like just letting someone know they dropped something instead of picking it up for them?
Fun fact: If you want to break something with your voice, it has to be crystal, not glass, as the molecular structure of crystal is uniform and easily split. The structure of glass isn't uniform, and therefore, can withstand vibration better. You also need to sing around C5 (one octave above middle C), with full power for a bit of a duration. This is why it's used as a show of lung power/capacity and breath support. 😁
Source: I'm an opera singer with a degree in A/V engineering, who has worked in both fields.
Oddly I had been thinking about this recently, but couldn't remember the song, then I see this video.
NationSquid: How Rhythm Nation made computers :(
Me: Cosmic radiation
Tried this one myself on an old laptop i deem useless, didn't quite work, the HDD was quite similar to those documented too.
might try again, see if anything happens.
I’m interested, are you going to make an update on this?
@@JBolt1089 maybe, not sure.
I'll have to sacrifice a hard drive if I will.
Don't really want to.
Most it'd do would probably slow it down or kill it.
I'd guess the PC would just freeze and on reboot it'll fail
@@JoCaTen late sorry. Understandably so, it’s a perfectly good laptop too. Funny story, I have a dead laptop and the only reason it’s dead is because the magnetic charger terminals rusted and there was no straight charging port. I have 3 other dead laptops collecting dust, I swear I’m just super unlucky when it comes to technology.
@@JBolt1089 happens to the best of us.
It's not exactly a perfectly good laptop but rather a really old laptop that's still functioning with a good HDD
Damn. Janet Jackson couldn't catch a break in the mid-2000s.
I was reading a post on the They Might Be Giants subreddit where someone was asking why a song sounded different in the video compared to vinyl. Someone said it was because the song was ever so slightly sped up causing pitch differences. They also said it occured to Rythm Nation, which had the side effect of killing certain HDDs.
Omg is this entire thing a Soul Eater reference?
Side note - Microwave ovens are not resonant with water, 2.4Ghz is just the frequency allocated to microwave oven magnetrons. To be resonant with water it would need to be in the Terahertz range.
and the machines are running windows 11 **shows windows 10**
Hard drives are still very common these days. SSD's still have a high $/GB that only makes them worth using in premium devices.
Seymour! The computer’s broken!
No, mother, that’s just 80s pop.
It shouldn’t take 7:10 to just use the name the cause, resonance through sympathetic frequencies.
Wasn’t it proven that Janet’s video wasn’t actually the problem, but the HDD manufacturer itself?
Squid really woke up before this video and said, "I'm the shit, and this fit is it." Call him ranch, because he be dressing
13:50 There was one virus that could damage a computer's BIOS called CIH (or Chernobyl) but it was from the late 90s and only affected one BIOS type from motherboards containing a certain chipset.
Well, now we know what those scientists were listening to in the testing chamber on the day of the apocalypse.
Awesome video!!
Sponsors should be beating your door down & throwing money at you - such watchable sub-productions!
You know NationSquid turned into Elliot Roberts so gradually i didn't even notice
Who knew NationSquid was such a good singer too?!
wow. thank you ADAM NEELY for such creative content.
I want to see Janet Jacksons portfolio for those years
So a bass is like an ogre?
Good thing 7200 RPM Seagate Barracuda drives are safe.
It's more likely that the song induced a small amount of voltage in the coil that is part of the armature in the hard drive. The coil in the armature is actually a voice coil and if there's a loud enough sound nearby it may induce current. It should have been filtered out but may not have been. This could cause the head to move or freeze in place, which could crash windows.