I found one line that has worked for me in Ukraine in both occastions. Now the first lady it worked for, but I did not know that she was not that serious and she found another guy in Ukraine 3 months later while I was making arrangements for her arrival to the US, The second lady was very serious and waited almost 6 months for me to visit again and then 3 months later she was in the US with me. The simple line was. I will not ever leave you. If anyone leaves, it will be you. Somehow they had never heard a man say this to them. Well, it worked for me, and now we have been together for 13 years with 2 amazing children.
I was the one who sent a message to the lady @19:14. I would not describe the message I sent to be "rude", but I would describe my message as being "assertive". The problem that occurred with the lady was that she took my "assertive" message as being "rude" and "aggressive". Unfortunately, it wasn't my intent to be rude or aggresive but that's how she took it. Next time, I'll be choosing my words more wisely and going about things more diplomatically. Luba's on this matter is spot on!
Good informative video. It is great that you explain to Western men the cultural difference of Ukrainian women. I do agree that some coaching needs to also be given to the women. Thanks, and keep up the great videos❤
I spent two months in Odessa to do nothing but date. I went on a dozen or so dates. I wasted time on a scammer for a month and eventually met a beautiful woman who spoke fluent english, which is my number one requirement. ( and should be yours). Bottom line. Its difficult even if you go. Its impossible if you dont.
On a first date I just shake hands with Ukrainian women. Don't expect anything from a first date. Just watch for choosing signs and interest to see if it is worth a second date. On the second date definitely go in for the kiss. If she pulls away then you have your answer.
Easiest way to communicate to them that you’re not just there for sex is to not be physical with them too soon, including always trying to hug and kiss them. Once they realize this, they will open up to you physically once they are comfortable with you and you don’t have tip guess when the right time is, and they feel comfortable too.
When i drink, i get even nicer. It's confusing. As far as yelling, about the only time I will yell at a woman is when it is a serious and urgent safety issue.
Ladies from E Europe need to understand that we are culturally quite different- they need to understand that men from the other side of the world are not what they are used too... they need to not hold people to standards that they do not know... This has been my number one problem.
When I attended a social event in Ukraine, I thought it felt like a cattle market of women, the person I went with, he had been married three times previously, another of the group I was talking to, he gave me the impression that he was just looking for a one night stand in a different country, that was from a conversation on the bus, I don't think the guy I went over there with, I don't know if he ever ended up with a lady from Ukraine, I will be honest and say that I advised him against it, my reason was because he, alike to myself does a job that involves working long hours, working away from home for days, sometimes weeks at a time, that contributed to his past marriages ended. I have remained single as it wouldn't be fair on a partner, when I went to Ukraine with my friend, I went because he didn't want to go there on his own, I found it claustrophobic, too overwhelming, I've had bad experiences in the past with women, I avoid being anywhere near women in this country, going to a social in Ukraine I was out of place
I do drink some whiskey before a meal as it really improves the taste of a meal. I am not asocial drinker. I am more a private drinker, especially before a meal. I could in no way keep up a slavic. After a failed marriage , and a successful marriage, I can say, It takes two to tango. If the woman doesn’t shout, no matter who started this escalation, the conflict falls flat.
As an "older" guy I realize that a lot of the ladies in my target age range have children from previous relationships/marriage. My biggest fear beyond making and keeping the lady happy is making her child/children happy and having them accept me as a "father" figure. When it comes to children, it's a package deal and keeping everyone involved happy is quite difficult... And hairy armpits. 🤣
Hey guys, I'm already talking to a wonderful woman in Ukraine and I'm wondering if she can actually leave there now? She wants to apparently, she told me, I didn't ask I simply said yes if it's possible. She seems to believe she can run off and I'm not getting that vibe online at all. I remembered you two so I came to ask you what is the current situation for a lady of 37 to leave Ukraine
They can leave whenever they want. Unless she is in the military or police force. I would suggest booking a call with us to help you understand what is going on. It will save you a lot of time.
Very interseting video guys.. Any guy who's half way decent should know how to behave well. If you have to teach him these things then he's a low standard guy, and it's probably not going to work because he's after sex too quickly. Fot the ladies, my main complaint: looking at your phone when you're on a date. It's rude. If you are with someone, then your attention should be with that perso, not your phone. This is not just a Ukraine thing, it's bad behavoiur that's developed everywhere.
No and Yes, I was under the impression that East European women were easy and that hooking up was common for them. I have heard that by the time a girl in East Europe is 14 she's already had her first sexual encounter and that abortion as a from of birth control is accepted without a thought. I'm interested in a person with a low body count and high morals. As for drinking, I was aware of the concern but being from a location where drinking is common it's something that she'll need to come to terms with on her own.
I heard of one stat from somewhere that 50% of girls in Russia had had sex before 15. But that is certainly not the average, if that was what you was saying.
It is reported that 71% of all Russian adolescents start sexual relations at the age of 15-19 years and 2% at the age of 10-14 years. I did first page google search. I didn’t read the whole document. But I’m sure there is more info online. Www. reproductiverights.org/sites/default/files/documents/sr_rus_0999_eng.pdf
Hello Heart Rocket, I understand the points you two made very well, I’ve done some research into Ukraine culture, and I appreciate the videos you two do , I’m curious about your option of the site “fedate” after a lot of communication I bought a lady’s contact info and am planning to visit next month and am wondering about getting to Kyiv, do you think flying to Krakow and taking a train to Kyiv is ok to do ?
@@rustymakely1057 I’ve never heard of that website. But my experience would advise against it. But in saying that I don’t know the full story. We have consulting calls that you can book. And we’d be more than happy to help you out. But it’s very difficult with limited information. I personally would not be going to Kyiv.
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Are these 2 fears news to you, or did you already know about them?
I found one line that has worked for me in Ukraine in both occastions. Now the first lady it worked for, but I did not know that she was not that serious and she found another guy in Ukraine 3 months later while I was making arrangements for her arrival to the US, The second lady was very serious and waited almost 6 months for me to visit again and then 3 months later she was in the US with me. The simple line was. I will not ever leave you. If anyone leaves, it will be you. Somehow they had never heard a man say this to them. Well, it worked for me, and now we have been together for 13 years with 2 amazing children.
I was the one who sent a message to the lady @19:14. I would not describe the message I sent to be "rude", but I would describe my message as being "assertive". The problem that occurred with the lady was that she took my "assertive" message as being "rude" and "aggressive". Unfortunately, it wasn't my intent to be rude or aggresive but that's how she took it. Next time, I'll be choosing my words more wisely and going about things more diplomatically. Luba's on this matter is spot on!
Good informative video. It is great that you explain to Western men the cultural difference of Ukrainian women. I do agree that some coaching needs to also be given to the women. Thanks, and keep up the great videos❤
I spent two months in Odessa to do nothing but date. I went on a dozen or so dates. I wasted time on a scammer for a month and eventually met a beautiful woman who spoke fluent english, which is my number one requirement. ( and should be yours).
Bottom line. Its difficult even if you go. Its impossible if you dont.
On a first date I just shake hands with Ukrainian women. Don't expect anything from a first date. Just watch for choosing signs and interest to see if it is worth a second date. On the second date definitely go in for the kiss. If she pulls away then you have your answer.
Have had two relationships fail because of alchohol. Anyone who has seen the problem personally will be very cautious of the "signs"
Great video, guys
Easiest way to communicate to them that you’re not just there for sex is to not be physical with them too soon, including always trying to hug and kiss them. Once they realize this, they will open up to you physically once they are comfortable with you and you don’t have tip guess when the right time is, and they feel comfortable too.
When i drink, i get even nicer. It's confusing.
As far as yelling, about the only time I will yell at a woman is when it is a serious and urgent safety issue.
Ladies from E Europe need to understand that we are culturally quite different- they need to understand that men from the other side of the world are not what they are used too... they need to not hold people to standards that they do not know... This has been my number one problem.
When I attended a social event in Ukraine, I thought it felt like a cattle market of women, the person I went with, he had been married three times previously, another of the group I was talking to, he gave me the impression that he was just looking for a one night stand in a different country, that was from a conversation on the bus, I don't think the guy I went over there with, I don't know if he ever ended up with a lady from Ukraine, I will be honest and say that I advised him against it, my reason was because he, alike to myself does a job that involves working long hours, working away from home for days, sometimes weeks at a time, that contributed to his past marriages ended. I have remained single as it wouldn't be fair on a partner, when I went to Ukraine with my friend, I went because he didn't want to go there on his own, I found it claustrophobic, too overwhelming, I've had bad experiences in the past with women, I avoid being anywhere near women in this country, going to a social in Ukraine I was out of place
I do drink some whiskey before a meal as it really improves the taste of a meal. I am not asocial drinker. I am more a private drinker, especially before a meal. I could in no way keep up a slavic. After a failed marriage , and a successful marriage, I can say, It takes two to tango. If the woman doesn’t shout, no matter who started this escalation, the conflict falls flat.
As an "older" guy I realize that a lot of the ladies in my target age range have children from previous relationships/marriage. My biggest fear beyond making and keeping the lady happy is making her child/children happy and having them accept me as a "father" figure. When it comes to children, it's a package deal and keeping everyone involved happy is quite difficult... And hairy armpits. 🤣
Hey guys, I'm already talking to a wonderful woman in Ukraine and I'm wondering if she can actually leave there now? She wants to apparently, she told me, I didn't ask I simply said yes if it's possible. She seems to believe she can run off and I'm not getting that vibe online at all. I remembered you two so I came to ask you what is the current situation for a lady of 37 to leave Ukraine
They can leave whenever they want. Unless she is in the military or police force. I would suggest booking a call with us to help you understand what is going on. It will save you a lot of time.
@@heartrocket I was thinking the exact same thing lol. I do need advice and I don't want to just ask her everything so I will be in touch soon. Paul
@@heartrocket Thank you for the fast answer. I'm sold on you two more now than I was.
Very interseting video guys.. Any guy who's half way decent should know how to behave well. If you have to teach him these things then he's a low standard guy, and it's probably not going to work because he's after sex too quickly.
Fot the ladies, my main complaint: looking at your phone when you're on a date. It's rude. If you are with someone, then your attention should be with that perso, not your phone. This is not just a Ukraine thing, it's bad behavoiur that's developed everywhere.
Clear the palette
Люба хорошенькая. Красивая пара.
No and Yes, I was under the impression that East European women were easy and that hooking up was common for them. I have heard that by the time a girl in East Europe is 14 she's already had her first sexual encounter and that abortion as a from of birth control is accepted without a thought. I'm interested in a person with a low body count and high morals. As for drinking, I was aware of the concern but being from a location where drinking is common it's something that she'll need to come to terms with on her own.
I heard of one stat from somewhere that 50% of girls in Russia had had sex before 15. But that is certainly not the average, if that was what you was saying.
It is reported that 71% of all Russian adolescents start sexual relations at the age of 15-19 years and 2% at the age of 10-14 years. I did first page google search. I didn’t read the whole document. But I’m sure there is more info online. Www. reproductiverights.org/sites/default/files/documents/sr_rus_0999_eng.pdf
Hello Heart Rocket, I understand the points you two made very well, I’ve done some research into Ukraine culture, and I appreciate the videos you two do , I’m curious about your option of the site “fedate” after a lot of communication I bought a lady’s contact info and am planning to visit next month and am wondering about getting to Kyiv, do you think flying to Krakow and taking a train to Kyiv is ok to do ?
@@rustymakely1057 I’ve never heard of that website. But my experience would advise against it. But in saying that I don’t know the full story. We have consulting calls that you can book. And we’d be more than happy to help you out. But it’s very difficult with limited information. I personally would not be going to Kyiv.
@@heartrocket I also agree, don't do Fedate. I have had 'some' experience and I also don't know them.
Just don't sleep with her...or anyone --- get serious with your own manhood...