Highly recommend Jordan’s new book Shape: The Hidden Geometry of Absolutely Everything. It’s really informative and interesting and the footnotes make me laugh out loud. Every Science Teacher should read it aloud to their students. 5 Stars!
I quite enjoyed this chat and I'm sure it would could have been the basis of a fun conversation over a few beers. Unfortunately it reminds me too much of lecturers who could chat like this for hours and never quite get around to whatever was in the syllabus.
The line "how a democracy should choose its representatives" in the description (and the fact that this is the RI ¬_¬) made me think it was intentional and about how there's a lack of representation of women in maths.
The random walk principle also applies to the how photons travel from the interior to the exterior of the sun and eventually escape and arrive at planets like our Earth
the random mosquito doesn't move far, a billion mosquitoes will disperse far. winds carry mosquitoes very far. traveling people carry mosquitoes over entire oceans.
48:00 - it's interesting to notice that GPT3 also messes up it's versus its. Unless it's a transcription error, of course. Edit: he then admits he trained it on his own writing. I'm not quite sure what to make of that. Edit²: I also noticed the slightly odd semi-colon at "aren't just shapes;". It's a bit of an issue of style, but I'd put a colon there: the second part is elucidating the first part. Then he reveals the gibberish underneath, so I guess I should be less picky.
There are many great talks at RI, but this is not one of them. Compare this to Giles Yeo's talk, for example - the quality of these talks is vastly different. Giles is well-prepared, everything he says is straight to the point. Jordan, on the other hand, spent entire 12 minutes of it talking random facts about some scientist. Halfway in the talk, I still have doubts that it has anything to do with geometry in particular.
Computers are built upon maths, humans aren't. Seems that this is just a roundabout talk about the common subject we know as "Probabilities and Statistics".
What is this nonsense ? A history lesson by a hyperactive science graduate that just drew up a bunch of random connections. Is this a talk sponsored by the speaker ? And this guy is a terrible speaker.
Wasn't quite what I was expecting, but it was lovely! It helped me a bit in my work, as well, as someone developing a theory of everything from a geometric perspective. Also, did anyone else spend an amusingly long time trying to figure out where they'd heard his voice before, and then finally realize, near the end, that he sounds almost exactly like Sal Khan, of Khan Academy? I laughed when it finally clicked for me, and then I looked at his face, and it was super confusing for my brain, hearing Khan's voice coming out of this guy's head. :-)
My first thought - who would have thought mosquitoes flee in random directions. Not affected by wind direction or strength, sun orientation etc etc. Mosquitoes must have been really different then or, he was really lucky. I will listen to this talk to find out...
The natural first assumption for any physics student to explain how or why a particle like a photon (or electron, etc) might behave as an uncertain location particle while also like a polarizable axial or helical wave ''packet'', given that everything in the universe from electrons to solar systems are in orbit with something else pulling them into polarizable axial or helical apparent waves depending on the orientation of their orbits as they travel thru space, and given that we know we’re in a sea of undetectable dark matter but don’t know where it’s disbursed, is that they’re in orbit with an undetectable dark matter particle pulling them into polarizable axial or helical apparent waves as they travel where the speed of their orbit determines the wavelength and the diameter is the amplitude which would explain the double slit, uncertainty, etc. No?
Off topic, but looking at your channel, you're definitely a Sensing type, not an iNtuiting type, MBTI-wise. I don't know about the other elements, though the Introversion seems reasonable, as does the Thinking. Not sure about the Perceiving/Judging. You might lean towards Judging, actually, given your focus on a single topic (gaming). But also, I understand that your videos are all older.
@@thewiseturtle MBTI is trash, especially the way that you're using it, going by letters rather than function stack. I'm absolutely not a sensor, my total lack of functional Se completely rules out being a "sensor" and believe me, I've considered (in "whatever" order): ISFJ ISTJ INFJ INTJ INFP ENTP Myer-Briggs was almost 100 years ago, the field has moved on, primarily thanks to John Beebe, Linda Berens, Dario Nardi. I appreciate you trying to help, but you're basically using 1800s medicine in the 21st century (for relative advancement).
@@thewiseturtle Oh and Myers-Briggs got the P&J the wrong ways around for Introverts. I use their nomenclature (rather than the more accurate socionics) because it's much better known. The dominant (especially) and Inferior functions have far more significance for individuals than their Parent/Child functions, particularly as the 7th (trickster) function is "broken" which is a judging function if the Child (3rd) is. Their contributions to Jungian Depth Psychology were great, I have much respect and appreciation for them, but this is meant to be developing into a science and they knew that further additions would follow, that they hadn't "completed" the study.
@@ChrispyNut I'm sorry you find it so upsetting to hear a different theory beyond the one you've adopted. I wish you well in trying to understand yourself and how you fit into the larger set of personality types.
"The answers to everything, from how computers learn to play chess to how a democracy should choose its representatives, can be found in geometry." - and of course computer simulations that use those geometries.
Totally fascinating. Delivered really well . Thumbs up from me. After been interested in physics for the last 6 years , this has helped me get more interested in maths. Thanks for that.
I'm just an arm chair enthusiast. Physics is easy ish. I get what things are made of & how things work, I do astrophotography so I'm interested in all things cosmological too. Thanks for asking.
Yeah, reality does seem that way to many folks. Randomness and complexity can be overwhelming, especially if you're not getting all you need for healthy brain function from your environment (which most humans don't, most of the time).
It was excellent and perfect for my work right now. But I'm doing some very specific work, and it's not something that most humans are interested in, at least not to this level of detail.
He's terrible. He's more interested in showing off his knowledge of trivia rather than the point of his speech. 50% video and I wish he got to the point
Funny, I thought he was one of the best presenters I've ever encountered. Fun, creative, and clear. But we all have different preferences, so I'm not surprised that there were others who didn't appreciate his approach.
Jordan gives the impression he has ADHD. Am an applied mathematician. This talk was close to impossible to understand because of the constant non-linear digressions.
Yeah that was my first impression. Psst I d got to see that to believe it.speaking of mosquitoes. I've had probably ten's of thousands of them. And I d like to give my opinion. But I'll wait.
What is truly scary is how the randomly generated text about the square sounds exactly like post truth governmental authority (Trump, Johnson, Kim) press conference , when it enters waters it is not equipped to navigate but is programmed to output something at the press conference even if it is fundamentally wrong.
We've fixed the title! Was it a scathing critique of society? A clever marketing ploy? An honest typo? We may never know.
lol, u may know, but we may not :)
I had my hopes up for "a previously undiscovered branch of science"
Ge ge ge
s the original: 'The Hidden Heometry of Everything - with Jordan Ellenberg'
For once, you sounded like CIA: "we neither confirm nor deny this is our first tweet" :)
Just in case they correct the title, this was the original: 'The Hidden Heometry of Everything - with Jordan Ellenberg'
Good idea. :)
Ah yes heometry. We truly live in a society
Just wait til next week's talk: What Heneology Can Tell Us About Henetics
I wonder if there will be a talk next week about Sheometry to balance things out?
dammit, this is the joke I came here for
Such a dad joke. Which is ironic 🤣
Theyometry
I hope the typo will not be corrected, or this great joke will lose its meaning :D
Gleeometrically comical, thank you.
😆
The title is pure hold.
This comment made me lauhh out loud 😛🤣
It's quite a hood title...
gagaga
This joke has hone way too far!
They’re totally going to correct the title and nobody is going to understand this thread
I was interested in the topic but the speaker was much too long-winded and I found myself falling asleep.
37 minutes into this presentation and I was still yearning for the trivia and small talk to vanish.
I just couldnt make to the end. Painful
Couldn't make it past 25 mins - perhaps because I had watched Michael Levin immediately prior.
A Markov chain in itself: almost an hour of ad hoc digressions in arbitrary directions.
That's life! A big, helical, looping, fractal of a journey. :-)
Do you really believe in that?
15 minutes in and I still haven't seen any geometry, so I guess the title was better before.
Highly recommend Jordan’s new book Shape: The Hidden Geometry of Absolutely Everything. It’s really informative and interesting and the footnotes make me laugh out loud. Every Science Teacher should read it aloud to their students. 5 Stars!
I quite enjoyed this chat and I'm sure it would could have been the basis of a fun conversation over a few beers. Unfortunately it reminds me too much of lecturers who could chat like this for hours and never quite get around to whatever was in the syllabus.
The quality of these talks are for sure dropping.
Here I was hoping I would get to hear about a whole new branch of Science. But alas, boring old geometry with a typo.
The line "how a democracy should choose its representatives" in the description (and the fact that this is the RI ¬_¬) made me think it was intentional and about how there's a lack of representation of women in maths.
@@user-vn7ce5ig1z lol sure thing buddy
Excellent talk Jordan, loved it!!!
9:42 Mosquito poetry... priceless. 😂
The random walk principle also applies to the how photons travel from the interior to the exterior of the sun and eventually escape and arrive at planets like our Earth
Well, that was random walk !
the random mosquito doesn't move far, a billion mosquitoes will disperse far. winds carry mosquitoes very far. traveling people carry mosquitoes over entire oceans.
I think you misspelled the title
Good catch. It should be "The Gidden Heometry of Everything"
I learn something new and exciting on this channel with every video. This one is no exception, even introducing a new word into our vocabulary. 🙏
OMG I really thought there was a new concept called heometry 😂😂 I’m like oooh let me find out what this is
48:00 - it's interesting to notice that GPT3 also messes up it's versus its. Unless it's a transcription error, of course.
Edit: he then admits he trained it on his own writing. I'm not quite sure what to make of that.
Edit²: I also noticed the slightly odd semi-colon at "aren't just shapes;". It's a bit of an issue of style, but I'd put a colon there: the second part is elucidating the first part. Then he reveals the gibberish underneath, so I guess I should be less picky.
There are many great talks at RI, but this is not one of them. Compare this to Giles Yeo's talk, for example - the quality of these talks is vastly different. Giles is well-prepared, everything he says is straight to the point. Jordan, on the other hand, spent entire 12 minutes of it talking random facts about some scientist. Halfway in the talk, I still have doubts that it has anything to do with geometry in particular.
G I wonder what is hidden ?
Computers are built upon maths, humans aren't. Seems that this is just a roundabout talk about the common subject we know as "Probabilities and Statistics".
What is this nonsense ? A history lesson by a hyperactive science graduate that just drew up a bunch of random connections. Is this a talk sponsored by the speaker ?
And this guy is a terrible speaker.
I have this book!
Wasn't quite what I was expecting, but it was lovely! It helped me a bit in my work, as well, as someone developing a theory of everything from a geometric perspective.
Also, did anyone else spend an amusingly long time trying to figure out where they'd heard his voice before, and then finally realize, near the end, that he sounds almost exactly like Sal Khan, of Khan Academy? I laughed when it finally clicked for me, and then I looked at his face, and it was super confusing for my brain, hearing Khan's voice coming out of this guy's head. :-)
My first thought - who would have thought mosquitoes flee in random directions. Not affected by wind direction or strength, sun orientation etc etc. Mosquitoes must have been really different then or, he was really lucky.
I will listen to this talk to find out...
Heometry - the measure of man?
I can testify, they don't often measure up...
i only clicked for the typo title......and typo related comments. was not disappointed.
The drunken ramble is strong here
I was studying random walks as well, in gas diffusion within porous structures, and I was happy to cite Einstein in my PhD Thesis :D
Did Jordan really miss the 'French frog society'
Are we going to be inclusive and study Theyometry or Zheometry?
APACHEometry
The natural first assumption for any physics student to explain how or why a particle like a photon (or electron, etc) might behave as an uncertain location particle while also like a polarizable axial or helical wave ''packet'', given that everything in the universe from electrons to solar systems are in orbit with something else pulling them into polarizable axial or helical apparent waves depending on the orientation of their orbits as they travel thru space, and given that we know we’re in a sea of undetectable dark matter but don’t know where it’s disbursed, is that they’re in orbit with an undetectable dark matter particle pulling them into polarizable axial or helical apparent waves as they travel where the speed of their orbit determines the wavelength and the diameter is the amplitude which would explain the double slit, uncertainty, etc. No?
No
I generally look at the particle/wave duality as just another incarnation of matter/energy conversion and conservation.
I heart your comment.
Spelling, the sacrificial lamb of The Ri. X-D
To be honest, the embarrassment is far outweighed by the hilarity of the comments.
Off topic, but looking at your channel, you're definitely a Sensing type, not an iNtuiting type, MBTI-wise. I don't know about the other elements, though the Introversion seems reasonable, as does the Thinking. Not sure about the Perceiving/Judging. You might lean towards Judging, actually, given your focus on a single topic (gaming). But also, I understand that your videos are all older.
@@thewiseturtle MBTI is trash, especially the way that you're using it, going by letters rather than function stack.
I'm absolutely not a sensor, my total lack of functional Se completely rules out being a "sensor" and believe me, I've considered (in "whatever" order):
ISFJ
ISTJ
INFJ
INTJ
INFP
ENTP
Myer-Briggs was almost 100 years ago, the field has moved on, primarily thanks to John Beebe, Linda Berens, Dario Nardi.
I appreciate you trying to help, but you're basically using 1800s medicine in the 21st century (for relative advancement).
@@thewiseturtle Oh and Myers-Briggs got the P&J the wrong ways around for Introverts. I use their nomenclature (rather than the more accurate socionics) because it's much better known.
The dominant (especially) and Inferior functions have far more significance for individuals than their Parent/Child functions, particularly as the 7th (trickster) function is "broken" which is a judging function if the Child (3rd) is.
Their contributions to Jungian Depth Psychology were great, I have much respect and appreciation for them, but this is meant to be developing into a science and they knew that further additions would follow, that they hadn't "completed" the study.
@@ChrispyNut I'm sorry you find it so upsetting to hear a different theory beyond the one you've adopted. I wish you well in trying to understand yourself and how you fit into the larger set of personality types.
"The answers to everything, from how computers learn to play chess to how a democracy should choose its representatives, can be found in geometry." - and of course computer simulations that use those geometries.
Wait a second! Did Markov count the vowels and consonants by hand?
Totally fascinating. Delivered really well . Thumbs up from me. After been interested in physics for the last 6 years , this has helped me get more interested in maths. Thanks for that.
wow, how did it came about that u like physics, but not maths (applied)? or are u talking 'bout getting interested in abstract maths here?
I'm just an arm chair enthusiast. Physics is easy ish. I get what things are made of & how things work, I do astrophotography so I'm interested in all things cosmological too. Thanks for asking.
typo?
It's the Spellbinder.... we are waiting on Letterman. He is caught in a protest
did he say helen keller was there to give a talk?
The mosquito model is a bad model...
This was senseless. Bizarre, disconnected numerology.
Yeah, reality does seem that way to many folks. Randomness and complexity can be overwhelming, especially if you're not getting all you need for healthy brain function from your environment (which most humans don't, most of the time).
Geometry is he/him now
there are 48 regular polyhedra
Obviously the work of the Spellbinder.
Interesting, but I didn't see any geometry, or heometry for that matter.
I failed to extract a single useful thought out of this one hour speech. Did anyone else succeed?
I'm five minutes in and already bored and trying to discern a single point. I'm tapping out on your advice.
It was excellent and perfect for my work right now. But I'm doing some very specific work, and it's not something that most humans are interested in, at least not to this level of detail.
I only want to talk about Meometry !
Obviously, this gentleman is very smart, intelligent, and well educated, but he is. a very poor speaker!
He's terrible. He's more interested in showing off his knowledge of trivia rather than the point of his speech. 50% video and I wish he got to the point
lord of the hings fan... niiiiice
I love heometry; it was my favorite rubject in tchool. 👍
🥰…
thank you
just lmao
*geometry
The space itself is geometrical in shape i.e pieces of geometrially shape of nothing like Penrose tiles.
And.....
I didn't like this one. Not well prepared and the title misleading.
I found it to be excellent and just what I needed right now. To each their own.
I'm sure this guy is very knowledgeable but he delivers talks very POORLY.
Funny, I thought he was one of the best presenters I've ever encountered. Fun, creative, and clear. But we all have different preferences, so I'm not surprised that there were others who didn't appreciate his approach.
i've always had a great fondness for heometry.
Typo!
Science makes hidden things obvious.
Jordan gives the impression he has ADHD. Am an applied mathematician. This talk was close to impossible to understand because of the constant non-linear digressions.
Absolutely fascinating, entertaining, and thought-provoking. Thank you!
I prefer watching videos discussing bheometry
"The Hidden Heometry" and in a follow-up presentation, "How to Spell in Modern English."
The mosquito question seems kinda irrelevant... Cuz you know 1 pregnant female from over the line is all itll take .
Ah yes, my favorite high school subject.
gigh school, surely?
... we have robots that fold shirts
Why not Herometry
Thank you Jordan.
and here we see just another example of the dominant patriarchy... (just messin wit ya) ^_^
amazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzing
Yeah that was my first impression. Psst I d got to see that to believe it.speaking of mosquitoes. I've had probably ten's of thousands of them. And I d like to give my opinion. But I'll wait.
Can you tell us more about the dinosaurs 🦕🙄
What
Kend -> Kendra
25 minutes in. Still no point just blabber.
why does the title say "Heometry" ??
By trying to fix a capitalisation mistake, we made a typo.
What utter drivel....
For me, everything is sound and vibration. And all this convoluted talk doesn't vibe at all.
What is truly scary is how the randomly generated text about the square sounds exactly like post truth governmental authority (Trump, Johnson, Kim) press conference , when it enters waters it is not equipped to navigate but is programmed to output something at the press conference even if it is fundamentally wrong.
heometry...nice
Kendra
Hi
Head shaking ...always confusing
Oh yes the hidden Gayometry n time to search the colset
Heometry - what a novelty ! 🤔
Claude wuz heer
Yawwnnn
personal pronouns gone wild
🚀🚀🚀❤❤❤❤👍👍👍👍
The Gidden Heometry
Slow. Very slow. Veery slow.
Was denn das für ein Irrer?
Second!
Lol SIXTH!
First!!!