it actually makes alot of sense that a limited production run vehicle would have variations as much of it was probably hand made much like in real life when prototypes are ordered of a military vehicle each one is different to test the effect of certain modifications on performance before settling on a standard for mass production also aircraft of this size would take a long time to construct so i can see changes being made between units to improve them as they role out something that is also common irl during wartime with rushed production
"Barely" isn't how control of the air is described. Either you control the air, or you don't. It's like saying a pregnant woman is barely pregnant. No, either she is pregnant, or she is not.
@@gravemindpenisnah... since Zeon is heavily inspired by Nazi German Me-323 definitely fit for Gaw inspiration more than any other larger aircraft post WW2 th-cam.com/video/DeDXaf8T8LE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wnvfP_ic1Uv33xwB
I loved the Gaw. I remember fighting them and protecting them in missions in Federation vs Zeon always thought they were cool and had cool designs. Really like the green on one from MS Igloo.
To be fair Night Hawks is a very old if not one of the first OYW side stories. It get a pass on the account of being one of the pioneers but forgotten UC mangas
I think you forgot to mention, that Gaws to appears in F90FF Vol 6 prologue senction used by Oldsmobile forces to assault a Space Port that become base for F90 & Garwish
As much as I appreciate the design of the Gaw, I would like to see a modern take on it; something along the lines of the streamline 'Aigaion' from Ace combat.
Imagine the Airforce laughing their asses off when they see that their opponent in the skies is a slow moving brick that takes only 1 hit to the engine to destroy and "fighters" are slow and only have the pilots exposed with a big glass
You miss another variation from Kondo, in 0079 there is between other Gaws at battle of Jaburo, a different one with a lot of domes on, that looks like an EWAC variant! Pluss in one of Ghiren's Greed videos about the Artic Treaty is possible to see a small two engine Gaw with Public Colony Corporation logo on the vertical stabilizator!
Was aware of the one from 0079 but dismissed it since a lot of the vehicles there are redesigned regular variants (like the Mad Angler that is drastically different in the story). However, wasn't aware of the one from Gihren Greed. Would you have a link to its picture?
Anyway, good video! Love it! I have just a lore ralated question/theory: Based on Igloo 2 first Gaws are seen on Earth during the dropp operation on North America and SE Asia. Far too soon for Zeon to have time to built them up in central Asia and Europe and send them. Is possible that they are actually made in space and are space reentry capable? I mean their main engine looks like Musai's!
@@gundamfacts found it! It looks more a norma plane but, wing engines and vertical stabilizer are definitely gaw-like! th-cam.com/video/o3JrlDwtNIg/w-d-xo.html
The Gaw and Garuda were both inspired by the real life Lockheed CL-1201, a proposed nuclear-powered massive aircraft. Three versions were proposed: a super transport capable of airlifting hundreds of infantry and dozens of vehicles in a single aircraft, an airborne aircraft carrier capable of transporting 22 fighter jets, and the third variant remains classified but is speculated to be either a super bomber or a command and control aircraft capable of staying airborne for extended periods in the event of a nuclear war. The aircraft had effectively unlimited range and could remain airborne for 41 days, at which point the crew would run out of food and water and need to land to resupply. Like the Gaw, it flew using its 4 nuclear jet engines, but to take off and land it required 182 vertical lift engines that burned conventional jet fuel. Being as there were few airport runways capable of supporting such a massive aircraft, there were proposals to also make it capable of landing and taking off from water, like the Garuda, but they never actually came up with an amphibious design. Obviously they never actually built the CL-1201, but the US Air Force did briefly seriously consider building a small fleet of them as the ultimate aircraft, especially given Soviet experiments with nuclear-powered bombers, but the whole idea got scrapped as expensive and impractical, deciding that a small fleet of bombers/transports was more cost effective than one giant super bomber/transport. Between this, the real robot genre, and the O'Neill Island 3 space colony, Gundam is clearly the universe where all the cool ideas from the 60's and 70's futurism actually came into being.
@@gundamfacts Cool but impractical is the rule of Gundam. What is the one song you use for background music? I know it's from ZZ, possibly when the Zssa launches in episode 6, but I can't find the song on its own.
@@Swindle1984 here i can swear it's the Zeonic Front music. Perhaps do you talk about Hot-Blooded Mashmere OST or the Glemy Faction theme? (which i didn't used in this video)
4:28 Where is the hinting about them being railguns? Rail weapons seem really rare in the UC timeline, (Which is odd, given the invention of the i-field and anti beam gas)
There was a talk about it on MaHQ back in the day. Many pointed out that the game renderings from the SD games and the lack of space in the wings for regular shell cannons seem to indicate the Gaw cannons fire smaller projectiles than let's say dabudes or Big Tray and could be something more in line with the railcannons of the pre refit Magellans. I don't like the idea either but I think it's worth mentioning it...alongside the fact that these cannons are glass Doors in the first design of the Gaw
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it actually makes alot of sense that a limited production run vehicle would have variations as much of it was probably hand made much like in real life when prototypes are ordered of a military vehicle each one is different to test the effect of certain modifications on performance before settling on a standard for mass production also aircraft of this size would take a long time to construct so i can see changes being made between units to improve them as they role out something that is also common irl during wartime with rushed production
This
A massive flying brick of a carrier for a faction that barely control the sky is just amazing for the enemy.
"Barely" isn't how control of the air is described. Either you control the air, or you don't. It's like saying a pregnant woman is barely pregnant. No, either she is pregnant, or she is not.
@@porkflaps4717 I mean the Gaw was in a mixed situation
So basically the GAW was an C-130 on steroids?
Nah... it's basically more bigger and jet powered
Messerschmitt Me 323 Gigant
Antonov-225 is probably a much better comparison
@@gravemindpenisnah... since Zeon is heavily inspired by Nazi German
Me-323 definitely fit for Gaw inspiration more than any other larger aircraft post WW2
th-cam.com/video/DeDXaf8T8LE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wnvfP_ic1Uv33xwB
@@ZeroDarkness-accurate...and it's purple
Or like a C-5 Super Galaxy on steroids
The federation navy and ground forces were suffering badly
The airforce was having a blast tho
Best branch to be assigned for sure
I loved the Gaw. I remember fighting them and protecting them in missions in Federation vs Zeon always thought they were cool and had cool designs. Really like the green on one from MS Igloo.
I do love the design but it's also very unpractical
Same here
That's white Gaw should nicknamed *GawGeese* (as it's had same coloration as Tallgeese)
I get a Kakarot197 lore video and Gundam Facts video in tbe same day!
A good day for Gundam fans
Gaw design is heavily inspired by
German's Messerschmitt Me 323 Gigant right?
I love how UC in one minute is federation makes first MS and in another is makes first transformable.
Cant forget G1,2,3,4 projects either
To be fair Night Hawks is a very old if not one of the first OYW side stories. It get a pass on the account of being one of the pioneers but forgotten UC mangas
13:32 Looks more like a Nausicaa Airship than a Gaw at that point. At least The main body. Wings still clearly have a lot of Gaw parts/
I think you forgot to mention, that Gaws to appears in F90FF Vol 6 prologue senction used by Oldsmobile forces to assault a Space Port that become base for F90 & Garwish
Oh true true I should have mentioned it
As much as I appreciate the design of the Gaw, I would like to see a modern take on it; something along the lines of the streamline 'Aigaion' from Ace combat.
I'm surprised Kondo didn't do something more practical about it
Imagine the Airforce laughing their asses off when they see that their opponent in the skies is a slow moving brick that takes only 1 hit to the engine to destroy and "fighters" are slow and only have the pilots exposed with a big glass
I love videos on Gundam Ships.
You miss another variation from Kondo, in 0079 there is between other Gaws at battle of Jaburo, a different one with a lot of domes on, that looks like an EWAC variant!
Pluss in one of Ghiren's Greed videos about the Artic Treaty is possible to see a small two engine Gaw with Public Colony Corporation logo on the vertical stabilizator!
Was aware of the one from 0079 but dismissed it since a lot of the vehicles there are redesigned regular variants (like the Mad Angler that is drastically different in the story). However, wasn't aware of the one from Gihren Greed. Would you have a link to its picture?
Anyway, good video! Love it!
I have just a lore ralated question/theory:
Based on Igloo 2 first Gaws are seen on Earth during the dropp operation on North America and SE Asia. Far too soon for Zeon to have time to built them up in central Asia and Europe and send them.
Is possible that they are actually made in space and are space reentry capable?
I mean their main engine looks like Musai's!
@@gundamfacts found it!
th-cam.com/video/o3JrlDwtNIg/w-d-xo.html
@@gundamfacts found it! It looks more a norma plane but, wing engines and vertical stabilizer are definitely gaw-like!
th-cam.com/video/o3JrlDwtNIg/w-d-xo.html
@@lucafabbrini6710 Hmmm... You sure that isn't a regular-timeline version of the Gabril Class Shuttle from Origin?
Val walo please
The Gaw and Garuda were both inspired by the real life Lockheed CL-1201, a proposed nuclear-powered massive aircraft. Three versions were proposed: a super transport capable of airlifting hundreds of infantry and dozens of vehicles in a single aircraft, an airborne aircraft carrier capable of transporting 22 fighter jets, and the third variant remains classified but is speculated to be either a super bomber or a command and control aircraft capable of staying airborne for extended periods in the event of a nuclear war. The aircraft had effectively unlimited range and could remain airborne for 41 days, at which point the crew would run out of food and water and need to land to resupply. Like the Gaw, it flew using its 4 nuclear jet engines, but to take off and land it required 182 vertical lift engines that burned conventional jet fuel. Being as there were few airport runways capable of supporting such a massive aircraft, there were proposals to also make it capable of landing and taking off from water, like the Garuda, but they never actually came up with an amphibious design. Obviously they never actually built the CL-1201, but the US Air Force did briefly seriously consider building a small fleet of them as the ultimate aircraft, especially given Soviet experiments with nuclear-powered bombers, but the whole idea got scrapped as expensive and impractical, deciding that a small fleet of bombers/transports was more cost effective than one giant super bomber/transport.
Between this, the real robot genre, and the O'Neill Island 3 space colony, Gundam is clearly the universe where all the cool ideas from the 60's and 70's futurism actually came into being.
Very interesting read. But hey, they did all the cool ideas from the 60's but at the same time the most impractical
@@gundamfacts Cool but impractical is the rule of Gundam. What is the one song you use for background music? I know it's from ZZ, possibly when the Zssa launches in episode 6, but I can't find the song on its own.
@@Swindle1984 for the intro? It's the entry theme from Zeonic Front
@@gundamfacts No, you use it for a lot of your videos and it matches up with the Zssa launching for the first time in ZZ Gundam.
@@Swindle1984 here i can swear it's the Zeonic Front music. Perhaps do you talk about Hot-Blooded Mashmere OST or the Glemy Faction theme? (which i didn't used in this video)
I love Kow's work. Great to see it in here.
Ever consder doing a video on Kow's mobile suits designs?
Possibly!
I side 6 like! haha Abraços de Jaburo.
Many problems 1 solution
They really named one of 'em "Ooga-ooga". These Gundam names, man...
Lmao the GAWS change it's size and and weaponry depends on the source.
It's basically same like Star Trek Klingon's Bird of Prey
4:28 Where is the hinting about them being railguns? Rail weapons seem really rare in the UC timeline, (Which is odd, given the invention of the i-field and anti beam gas)
There was a talk about it on MaHQ back in the day. Many pointed out that the game renderings from the SD games and the lack of space in the wings for regular shell cannons seem to indicate the Gaw cannons fire smaller projectiles than let's say dabudes or Big Tray and could be something more in line with the railcannons of the pre refit Magellans. I don't like the idea either but I think it's worth mentioning it...alongside the fact that these cannons are glass Doors in the first design of the Gaw
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