Bhante's advice has been extremely helpful for me. I dont have words to thank this great person. Xactly like Bhante told, I did not know what was happening to me! I checked the internet, went to ayurvedic treatment centres, yoga sessions and even spent a lot of money checking if my thyroid was ok. All d time, I was battling with d painful feeling and feelin self centered all the time - core reason for depressn! His simple advice helps me cope and dissolve the pain of depression so effectively!!
Alot of comments here criticising his definition of depression, try implementing the teachings into practice. Alot of people 'think' about buddhism, but you cannot have true faith in it until you FEEL that it works. I know it is not easy, but try to get out of analysis paralysis and start DOING the practice. Slowly but surely, the insights explained here will start seeming less idiotic, less stupid. Then possibly understandable..then it clicks..yes, yes, this is true. No thing in the external world can determine my happiness. Happiness is regulated COMPLETELY internally. Depression and anxiety come from a strong attachment to the self, to my identity, when in truth I'm not more important than a fly or even a chair. It's all an illusion. Paradoxically, the cure is to realize there is no cure. To stop craving for outside solutions to inside problems, and to start laying down the groundwork for communication with the only source of your unhappiness, your mind. This is what meditation is for. Slowly, you start to see the difference between reality and fiction, between objective and subjective, between what actually IS and what you would like it to be. You are becoming mindful, and you will see a change in your personality. But, only if you put in the work. Com'on, you can DO it. Start DOING it! :D
Great, exactly what I am beginning to understand. And a good starting point to laugh about all the analysis done in the past - what a funny way to feed the lillusio n this was ;)
It's described in a too simplistic way, unfortunately. That's not how depression works and that's not how zen works. He's not helping someone who has depression he is just talking about it.
The first question you have to answer is what is desire? It is far deeper than you can think about but if your mind becomes completely relaxed then you start to see it. It is not what you think. You are still in concepts. You are thinking about it -you must directly see it. And you can.
western psychology looks in your past, the environmental factors, genetics and things outside yourself as the cause of your suffering whereas Buddhist psychology says you are in charge of your own suffering; technically, you are the driver. I personally find that way more wise and empowering as a human being to be told
Amituofo Venerable Bhante Vimalaramsi 🙏 Truly grateful for your clear and profound Dharma teaching in this video. Your really reinforced what I learnt from my Zen Chan Mahayana Buddhism mediation class at my Bao Lin Chan Monastery. Amituofo 🙏
If you're suffering from acute/severe depression then you need meds for them to bring you back to a state where you can receive meditation. After that the meds fall off and meditation takes over.
I disagree. I took meds and they actually prevented me from feeling anything. Let the pain be. At some point the pain will be large enough, that you have to let go.
@@bastian6173You definitely need meds if you are in clinical depression. A clinical depression is something physiological, usually triggered by an external, traumatic event, that has a psychological expression. You cannot simply "let it go" a major depression.
This is absolutely a fundamental core within psychology. Thank you for sharing these words, you're thinking alone is fundamental. Im surprised a few seconds after typing psychology you mentioned it in succession.
I'm cognitive - behawioral psychotherapist and I agree that mindfulness and meditation are powerful wepons against depression. But what just you said makes people with real depression even sadder.
You may be what you want but this doesn’t change the facts. What you know is by study and reading. What he says is fact based upon experience. He is a mind master. And every monk or person who did buddhist meditation in a serious way knows that what he says is true. I had great series of depression in my life so I know what im talking about.
Actually many peole who thought they were totally helpless as far as any management at all, who learn this and try it out, find that it sincerly does help very quickly as another tool to help them manage their situation. ONce you understand how something actually works, it is amazing how this helps a consumer to understand that there truly IS HOPE THEY CAN LEARN TO MANAGE IT and change. If it was an outside force, I would be helpless.. But when you learn how human cognition works and how to watch it, ( AND the kind of Mindfulness being taught today doe NOT help you see this in any way, so please don't mix it up with that.... that mindfulness was NOT what this was about... OF course if you choose to listen and hear it only in a detrimental negative way when you hear it, without investigaing it, well, we could do this with just about any approach we could suggest together here couldn't we? However if you just listen to it from an operative constructive angle and you then try it out... OURELY without prejudice, I think you will find something you can use to help a LOT Of people...
@@samathavipassanatrust i really dont know how can 'normal' person opens meditation course with many name: meditation in business, dealing with stress with meditation . These course requires fees. Do they think that it will cause unwholesome kamma if they teach sth wrong?!
“You feed that painful feeling with your thoughts”. Easy to say. Ever considered why we hold on to these thoughts? Perhaps because there is loss. You’ve lost something and all you have left is thoughts. We are not computers that just dump memory and move on. Thoughts are sometimes all you have left…
Exactly..! I was thinking the same.! My loss is so personally devastating to me,... and has disrupted my life so terribly. It's caused horrible anxiety, insomnia and depression. .... What happened to you? 🙏
@@klanderkal lost most of my family in the last 5 years. My assistant killed herself and four months ago I put my dog to sleep. It’s been tough. Buddhism has helped a lot but it’s not so black and white. A good book is ‘Navigating grief and Loss’ by Kimberly Brown. Really helped me. Try and be gentle with yourself and give the grief time and space. Don’t fight it.
So what if we have loss? Loss is an inevitable part of life. All things are transient and life is forever in flux . Our desire is to hold on to people and things. The core of any true spirituality is to cultivate a mindset that allows for a change in perception and not to hold on
A psychiatrist would get to the root of the problem and to get there you have to feed that feeling a little. Very hard to recognise the feeling and simply wait for it to fade away (constantly). The thing I struggle with mindfulness and meditation is that it gives little room to reflect the past, to analyse or plan the future. Worry often occurs when planning the future outcomes ... a part of being prepared for the worst. I'm not fully onboard with this yet. I am trying.
i am feeling lonely & depressed/vulnerable after my recent third vipassana experience. maybe it is the need of the moment, because i might have been escaping & compensating the pain within me for too long through being busy but avoiding to face it. vipassana has just pointed this pain out, so i have to deal with it without postponing, looking at it as it is, forgiving myself, purifying it & moving on. i have faith it is for my own benefit, i take responsibility without blaming vipassana. i am grateful ✨
Let go of Vipassana and only practice TWIM & our style of forgiveness and 6Rs. Problem solved. The Buddha never said to avoid problems but to look at them and relax the tension and tightness that arose. Gradually it disappears for good.
@@darmstrong693 i never said i have avoided problems. i was saying vipassana has helped me to look at my mind as it is & not compensating negative feeling rather accepting them & it is being really insightful. Goenka vipassana does lack deeper metta bhavana practice but it is really good for purification
Bhante only means that the heaviness is a sympton of depression. It can be light or severe but the key here is to "relax" into this feeling and be OK with it. Now it is important also to meditate doing Lovingkindness Meditation BUT only as he shows you how to do it. Sit 30min per day and learn the 6r method for the hindrances that arise. Bhante has done the other types of meditation and this works quickly and can we say permanently because you are letting go of craving directly. See metta instr
this monk are not atain nirvana still eat meet from death animal and tell you stupid story that he eat animal because he didnt see how some one kill animal to him to serve he bay in super market whose his explanation false budist I dont belive he atain nirvana...real monk folow the ruls no killing so real monk cannot acept eat animal because animal sombody kill for make you eat them we all now that cannot be blind
Why does he think it would take a psychiatrist any longer to explain? Also the problem is agreeing on what depression is? What does he mean by depression? Any painful feeling that arises? Seems to broad of a definition
It has been so effective and helpful to manage anxiety, worry, fear and other negative feelings that were the byproducts due to my depression all these years!! Thank god that I found out this video. Or else I would be for sure taking addictive psychotropic medications with endless list of side effects by now!!!
Informative video. In life there are only 2 problems--mind and the body. To feel better reduce negative thoughts. Be careful what you feed your mind. Avoid comparing yourself physically or mentally with others, reduce watching negative social media and avoid constipation as it affects the mind instantly [psychosomatic problems]. Your breathing is closely related to the brain [mind] and gives relief from stress-anxiety. For a relaxed mind observe the sensations of your incoming--outgoing breath at the entrance of the nostrils for 10-15-20 minutes or more. You can sit or lie down, anywhere-anytime, neck straight and eyes closed. Never meditate with expectations but with awareness. Don’t fight your thoughts. With practice the mind will relax. Keep a reminder to observe your breath sensations throughout the day and night --before sleep, when reading, at work, at home, etc with eyes open or closed. Make this a lifetime habit to have a better life. Best wishes--Counsellor.
It is an individual and complex thing, yes. I suffer from it. i also know that one can break free of it by simply letting go of one's ego. Easy? Heck no. Work all the time? Nope. Work a good bit of the time? Yes. People are too quick to look for a drug. It's easy. I know from experience. But the drugs are a cover, not a solution. Why? Because you'll be forever dependent on them. You must change your though processes.
I was tormented by fear for 37 years. It was mixed with anger. I don't know, maybe I was a rebel kid and my hatred towards my parents, school beaks and the people was strong, when I was young. It gave me sufferings beyond imagination. Only when I got Suzuki's book about Zen and Upanishads I started to aim towards new direction. Chandogya Upanishad and Kayvalya Upanishad made great deal of impression upon my young bitten heart (bitten ass). Zen was the other love. So I practice Zen for 34 years.
In my case I had depression for 20 years. I was under supervise of a Psychiatric Doctors (19 doctors altogether) and got medications. I took haloperidol and imap injections for 15 years. Later in 1993 I started risperdal and my depressions diminished. I have been taking seroquel for 8 last years and zeldox for last two and a half. My depression disappeared gradually and there is state of pernament peace in all places and situations, now. I have no fear, too ( dentist, blood work, dark streets).
Friend, Meditation is the permanent cure for depression. Enter "Vipaasna 10 minute meditation in English or Hindi video" and follow instructions for a relaxed mind. Sit on a chair, close your eyes, be still and focus on the incoming and outgoing breath from your nostrils. A lot of thoughts will come but with daily practice negative thoughts will will not have any impact on you. Do the above meditation for 10 minutes early morning and night. Best wishes.
@@u_Vajiradhammo Hello. My healing from depression came from God, Krishna. Fucker tried to cure me but I was not sick at all. Only horribly exhausted with heavy work. My psychiatric Treatement would prove futile if not my awakening to Buddha Nature 41 years ago. That saved me. Shrinks, had 20 of them, care is a joke.
Highly recommend Bhante. Depression maybe self centered, or may arise out of selfless concern for the world, grief, or can just be a feeling that passes around via mirror neurons, or a result of alcohol, or drugs, or hormones(teenage,post natal). Got a teenage stepson who when he was depressed it was like he was walking around with a a bag of cut onions - contagious. The problem is no one likes to look depressed in keeping up appearances so it gets resisted and escalated. Melancholic music may help to let it go and ride it through(enjoy being depressed). B vitamins and eating fruit and tryptophan foods may help with cheerful brain chemistry levels. Anti-depressants may help If its just a product of self identified vs world thinking then Bhante's advice is pertinent.
Really - At DSMC we put people through this practice and in 3-5 days most of the emotional obstacle has been reduced by ...a lot. Its just about letting go of the constant thoughts about whatever you are feeling. Let it go.
Yes, it is chemical; but it is also a multidimensional, interconnected matrix of processes colliding and interacting that can be seen for what it is, and through training in meditating and mindfulness, one can learn to detach and disidentify with one's attachment and aversion to ideas of a self that is depressed. This doesn't change the reality; it simply helps one to transcend ones pain experienced through taking these thoughts to be real and to be real reflections of a real reality that is purely confabulated by a mind trying to maintain equilibrium and integrity in whatever way it was evolved to do. You learn through an arduous cultivation of these methods of meditation to learn not to experience your thoughts personally without trying to repress or kowtow to them. I hope this helps clarify your confusion!
I get it. Thinking while the feeling is affecting you will only feed it because it depends on your energy to harm you. They're not telling you to become stupid and abolish every analysis, curiosity and desire to know, don't take it that far. There are benefic desires and actions to be taken in the world. The Buddha was basically a "philosopher genius", besides being virtuous.
@begintosee When I had depression I didn't feel any pain you talking about. I felt longing-nostomania and heaviness in chest. No pain. The meditation you talk I practiced for 25 years until my knees broke and I have not sit for 7 years. I was doing mahamudra Mind Nature meditation and shikantaza Zen meditation. I have been in state of samadhi 24/7 for about 15 years, at peace with my true Self and God Krsna/Ganesh/Siva/Christ/Avalokitesvara/Padmasambhava/Amitabha. I am at peace, now.
He obviously doesn't know what depression is, probably because he've never had it. He is talking about SADNESS, it's not the same thing as depression at all! I do Belive that their way of living could be good for not getting an depression in the first place. Psychological pressure in long term, damage the brain and causes it. When you have it you must seek treatment and it can take a while to be cured. You have to be patient and also the ones around you too. It's a Deadly disease like cancer unfortunately, people just don't understand that. I believe that a good way to get back to life from depression is with mindfulness etc.
Manjula Nilsson the mind is more powerful than you think, it's when you believe you don't have control that you lose yourself, taking meds is giving in, accepting you're not in charge. You become powerless in your own body. Depression is a disease, totally agree, but it isn't curable by meds, it's a personal journey. They can help calm you down but it's a fake feeling. Never heard of anyone overcoming depression thanks to drugs, only through up and downed self realization.
Actually Bhante talked about how he would lock himself in a room when he was young and experience depression. Sadness, grief, depression are all based on a feeling arising. Taking it personally and thinking about it and repeating the cycle over and over.
No, he's right. I was diagnosed at 17 and am now 44; been on an ssri antidepressant my whole adult life and been suicidal many times. When the mind state comes over one, it's just a feeling; you do not have to act on it. The problem for most is that without a practice and enough experience, it's overwhelming. I've needed "talking down" a few times. Now, it's less powerful and I know what's happening. Having said all that, some people DO need medication and no amount of meditation can cure an imbalanced biochemistry immediately.
Chris - The thing that is different here is that when you meditate you start to see that the feeling that comes up is truly "not yours". Gradually as you get deeper you get to a point where there is a point of transcendence and the idea of self disappears. When there is no craving clinging self those feelings may arise but they aren't latched onto and taken as yours - they are just taken as feeling with no emotional reaction whatsoever. It does work - many students that have gone deep into the practice say that not only do they not get depressed but that they simply can't even see how it could ever arise again. Why? because the self that the feeling latched onto is gone. When you chop down the tree, down go the branches! Why don't you take an online retreat for a week and see what this practice is all about. Meditate at home and try it. With kindness www.dhammasuka.org
Later Bhakti yoga and Tibetan Buddhadharma appeared. Not unexpectedly. By a throw of karma, I think. Lam Rim, mahamudra and dzog-chen. I met two Buddhist teachers: Zen master Seung Sahn and Tibetan lama Geshe Khenrab Gajam Tobgye. They took care of me and my life underwent, let's say transformation. There is not much left of the old "me" and not much of "me" exists today. I also got company of Ganesha and Siva in a Montreal factory where I was working and got second nervous breakdown.
Bhante, with all due respect it would be unfair to generalise all those who suffer from depression to be self-centered. There are a number of those who genuinely need medical help and are not expressive about it. Depression comes in all forms and behaviour; even silent ones as well. We really need to be fair and sensitive about how we talk about this delicate topic and not generalise everyone under the same umbrella. It will not serve anyone suffering from depression if we approach them this way, pragmatic as the way you explain it. We need more tact and sensitivity on this. Thank you.
This monk is telling, that Depression is feeling some pain and discomfort. He is wrong here. I've had Depression for about 20 years, very strong and severe heaviness in place of my chest, so I had to lie down in bed to battle it, for two hours, everyday. I've been taking strong meds for this condition and owing to them I'm still alive. I studied and practised ZEN and Taoism, specially CHI GONG Breathing Exercises, for almost 20 years and these practices helped me to recover, plus shrink's meds.
No such categories. It's either clinical Unipolar Depression, Bipolar I or II Depression, or a general malaise that is situational or environmental. Of which, he addresses both simultaneously. You have to "hear with your eyes," or you will never grasp the profundity of this wisdom.
The other one is Ken Cohen's "Taoist Chi Gong Breathing Exercises" to make your Chi flow harmonious and your Hara Center strong. It will take 90 minutes of exercise every second day. You just sit on a chair and breathe. Find him on internet, too. From myself I suggest to observe at time when you in bed at night, before you lose consciousness, images and sounds appearing to you before you fall asleep. If you get it right you'll get insights and revelations, which will help you to feel better.OK?
Your reasoning is very innovative. Thanks. I never thought I'm deep in concepts. But I don't understand why haven't you eaten a tangerine, yet? Any unusual obstacles? Try a tangerine. That's all I have to say to you.
@begintosee The practices of monk you try to promote here are useless to me. My teacher told me: " Put it all down. Don't make anything. Moment to moment just do it! When hungry, eat. When tired, sleep. That's all." I can see clearly you yourself are confused. Absorbtion Meditation? I have eating a tangerine meditation. Drinking a banana milkshake meditation. Watching this blue sky and stars at night meditation. I feel well. Have nice staying place. I'm lying on a sofa,now, smilling.
Agree, disagree-doesn't matter. What counts is, where does your depression come from? Buy for yourself CD, "Guided Relaxation And Affirmations For Inner Peace" by Sri Swami Satchitananda and try that. That will help you better than discussions and conversations.
Jst flick a switch and your pain is gone.... no need for medication or doctors.... just flip that switch in your soul and all your problems are gone. What bullshit.
I have been self centered for years, as everybody else. Are you not self centered? Oh, boy. As to materialistic and physical wants I must admit when young, there were too many. Maybe I wanted some toys when had none. Were your mama and dad buying you expensive toys like a cowboy suit with colts, electric car models you could drive them by a remote control or an electric train models? Today I see kids who made it all, sank in a sea of toys, drank on pleasures and bliss. Oh, boy. You must be one.
I think if you just take care of yourself, let's say for your own "spirituality", and you are in a monastery or with people who take care of you...... it works. But with all the respect that this holy man can inspire and with all the respect that I can have for difference opinions, I would like to know what this sympathetic monk did for his family and community? Let's say for improving the life of all that are in the need? And works, for his own health? I spend sometime with gays repeating chants and mantras along the day, having wonderful "philosophical talks" and getting tree meals a day. It was "fantastic", no stress, no depression, no fear, no anger, just flying in this great atmosphere. But all these guys, didn't have children to feed, work to do (or to loose), tax responsibilities for the well being of the community. So I insist, this work, but go to tell war refugees or hungry people who has nothing for feeding their babies tonight all this great techniques.....
Reply for venerable dj: Bhante worked in a hospice taking care of dying people which his mother ran; sitting at besides of dying people giving a sense of peace to them. He did this work on occasion for a few years in Malaysia where he was at a temple there. He has helped so many people overcome their depression and become happier. Even if you have food you can be miserable because of your mental anguish. This is the job of a monk - to enlighten. The job of lay people is to feed the hungry and be generous and that's what he teaches his students. This is the Buddhist community. The monks teach the way of life and the meditation and the lay people follow these precepts and develop their virtue through generous acts and taking care of the monks.
What did he do? He selflessly gave up all of his possessions and faced ostracism from his family, friends, and society in order to take the bodhisattva vow to put all beings before oneself through overcoming one's own limitations. No monk ever claimed to be perfect. If you work with them, you will notice that they sacrificed their whole lives and material comforts to help alleviate others' mental afflictions and turmoil. Really, there is no greater sacrifice. Also good to note that I am ordained in the Soto Zen and Dzogchen traditions, am a counselor for kids and am a single father all at once. Sure, the monastery in a wonderful, tranquil, peaceful place; but is it adverse from human relationships and problems going along with the suffering beings who practice or live there? No. I found it to be a different shade of suffering than outside it. Samsara and nirvana are simultaneously co-present, and therefore, understanding this, one knows that by choosing to live in a monastery, one is trading one kind of suffering for another in order be able to cultivate greater peace by being in a supportive environment where one can concentrate and focus in solitude and silence for most of the day. It is possible to juggle samsaric responsibilities with the Buddhist path. May you be blessed in happiness and love!
It was in 1894. I landed in a nuthouse. Police took me there from my good home. I haven't worked since and devoted to study Dharma and sit in meditation. As I mentioned before, my life was on the rocks and not a bed of roses. It has been painful and despite of few relieves proposed by Buddhist masters or Hindu gods I still am not completely out of the woods. But I feel not bad. Have no depression and no fear. It is great. You read lotus sutra. That's good. NO depression? Very good for you.
Obviously they didn't cause what happened to them but when they reflect back about what happened and a painful feeling arises they will definitely take it personally, get involved with it, and think about it over and over. So one must see these painful feelings arise and not grab hold of them and twist them around and get involved with them. The Buddha said Feeling is only feeling and impersonal. When we "Don't Like" the feeling and try to push it away. This is where we cause ourselves suffering. When one just sees it impersonally and not you then suffering doesn't arise. You have to break the chain at Feeling.
No, but they're identifying with their pain, which feeds the cycle of pain. Thus, he is right, and worldly beings are perpetuating and exacerbating their own environmental suffering by multiplying their own problems; and when someone points this out, it's vetted through misconceptions of each person, which are projected onto this idea about this object, person, or concept/thought, and they simply draw-out the pain to a greater degree than if they dis-identified with the thoughts are attached or aversive to the past incident. It never accuses anyone of being the causes of their situations. Nor does it blame people for suffering from traumatic situations. It doesn't even dismiss that these situations are real. The intention and logic behind his speech are that suffering happens, but the cycle of mental suffering can be alleviated or softened through meditation or mindfulness practices. Beings suffer just because they are alive. The pain of the suffering, great or small, is nobody's fault. How we learn work with that pain is to begin to perceive our thoughts as not-us and not-somebody/something else, and also neither both of these two, or neither of them...Things just are. And when that clicks, all that emotional baggage from clinging or rejecting that experiences simply falls away until all that remains is acceptance and an empowered sense of wellbeing! Many blessings!
The perpetrators will certainly experience the dark results of their actions, he's just showing a method so the victims can get rid of the pain that was caused to them. Otherwise they're trapped in a cycle and that's totally unfair. They've already suffered enough!
There're some illnesses where your powers of will, no matter how great they may become, are useless and too small. I DID NOT FEEL ANY PAIN in my Depressions. It was rather gloomy and sad feelings, nostomania, longing and bad mood. Like a Dog who's longing for his Master-Friend whose he'll never see again and he knows about that. This kind of Depression. What this monk's speaking about is baloney to me. He'll never heal strong Depression by meditation. Healing needs strong, correct medication.
You wrote me, you was sad and disappointed of life that's why you suspect you have had depression, uncured by doctors' intervention and their medication was useless. Only when you got lotus sutra depression went away. Really? Only you know how you feel. If no problem then no problem. If there's a problem then each problem has its solution, yes? I'm not an expert on Psychiatry and its methods to deal with depression. In my case Psychiatry & Dharma, together works. In your case maybe wrong doctor.
Wrong doctor is like a wrong teacher. In this case a good Psychiatrists and a good Dharma teacher can work together. No problem. But who is good teacher? Good teacher brings relief immediately. If teacher is Buddha I mean awakened expert, then few words of instruction is enough to bring student to awakening and perfect health. For you I suggest to buy "Guided Relaxation & Affirmations For Inner Peace" by Sri Swami Satchitananda. You may find him on internet. Have a look. It is very good exercise
He likely has never been persistently deeply depressed. He may serve himself and others better by disclosing his history. He seems to have a superficial attitude about this problem.
Yeah. Depression isn't about thoughts. You could have no thoughts and no distractions and still be depressed. It just eats you from inside and you can't do anything about it. If you're depressed, get on meds and seek psychotherapy - that's the only cure.
@@fghfghsrtsrthsrthsrt5968Meditation is the permanent cure for depression. Enter "Vipaasna 10 minute meditation in English video" and follow instructions for a relaxed mind. Sit on a chair, close your eyes, be still and focus on the incoming and outgoing breath from your nostrils. A lot of thoughts will come but with daily practice negative thoughts will will not have any impact on you. Do the above meditation for 10 minutes early morning and night. Best wishes.
@@shyaaammeneen63 I've done meditation for 8 years. I suffer from depression and I have states of mind and suffering that you cannot even imagine. Numbness, emotionlessness, hopelessness, etc etc. Meditation isn't a cure for depression. You're just going to meditate while being numb, that's it.
fghfghsrt srthsrthsrt At least practice what I have said-Expect and experience positive changes but I if lose the battle in the mind nothing will change. The meditation I told you takes only 10 minutes
Im really sorry but i think all the respescted Buddhist teachers have not undeestood how it is to be a Healthcare professional who tales on others pain and problems and give and give and suffering from tiredness and fatigue. Ita absolutely not to do with self centredness. Its the opposite. Theres more than one way that depression can result in the mind and there's different forms. Burnout is a form of depression
If you study Buddhism and mindfulness practice, then you will learn not to take on others problems. This doesn't mean you can't be compassionate or empathetic, it means you can witness the problems they have as something external, note them and let go. Of course this takes time and a lot of work. It is also fair to say that if more communities were taught these practices, then mental health would improve, reducing the need for healthcare professionals
Kim, Meditation is the permanent cure for depression. Enter "Vipaasna 10 minute meditation in English video" and follow instructions for a relaxed mind. Sit on a chair, close your eyes, be still and focus on the incoming and outgoing breath from your nostrils. A lot of thoughts will come but with daily practice negative thoughts will will not have any impact on you. Do the above meditation for 10 minutes early morning and night. You need not follow the sound on the video. Best wishes.
I've suffered from true depression and he's right. He doesn't mean self-centered as a criticism.
www.dhammasukha.org/brief-forgiveness-instructions.html
Thank you so much
Thank you for your kind comments. This is what the meditation will do. Please visit Dhammasukha for more information. Thank you!
My favourite buddhist monk!
and not just a monk but an intellectual as well, lovely man.
Bhante's advice has been extremely helpful for me. I dont have words to thank this great person. Xactly like Bhante told, I did not know what was happening to me! I checked the internet, went to ayurvedic treatment centres, yoga sessions and even spent a lot of money checking if my thyroid was ok. All d time, I was battling with d painful feeling and feelin self centered all the time - core reason for depressn! His simple advice helps me cope and dissolve the pain of depression so effectively!!
one of the best videos i’ve ever seen.
www.dhammasukha.org/brief-forgiveness-instructions.html
Alot of comments here criticising his definition of depression, try implementing the teachings into practice. Alot of people 'think' about buddhism, but you cannot have true faith in it until you FEEL that it works. I know it is not easy, but try to get out of analysis paralysis and start DOING the practice. Slowly but surely, the insights explained here will start seeming less idiotic, less stupid. Then possibly understandable..then it clicks..yes, yes, this is true. No thing in the external world can determine my happiness. Happiness is regulated COMPLETELY internally. Depression and anxiety come from a strong attachment to the self, to my identity, when in truth I'm not more important than a fly or even a chair. It's all an illusion.
Paradoxically, the cure is to realize there is no cure. To stop craving for outside solutions to inside problems, and to start laying down the groundwork for communication with the only source of your unhappiness, your mind. This is what meditation is for. Slowly, you start to see the difference between reality and fiction, between objective and subjective, between what actually IS and what you would like it to be. You are becoming mindful, and you will see a change in your personality. But, only if you put in the work.
Com'on, you can DO it. Start DOING it! :D
Jos Schroons Thank you for your very helpful comments!
Great, exactly what I am beginning to understand. And a good starting point to laugh about all the analysis done in the past - what a funny way to feed the lillusio n this was ;)
the truth is always hurting...thats why ppl depends cannabis or opioids in many ways ....they dont want to see the reality ...
It's described in a too simplistic way, unfortunately. That's not how depression works and that's not how zen works. He's not helping someone who has depression he is just talking about it.
@@leododgewiper I would agree ..depression would be something different and more complex.
The first question you have to answer is what is desire? It is far deeper than you can think about but if your mind becomes completely relaxed then you start to see it. It is not what you think. You are still in concepts. You are thinking about it -you must directly see it. And you can.
Please do explain more about this mind and subconscious
THANK YOU. MAY ALL BEINGS BE FREE FROM SUFFERINGS
western psychology looks in your past, the environmental factors, genetics and things outside yourself as the cause of your suffering whereas Buddhist psychology says you are in charge of your own suffering; technically, you are the driver. I personally find that way more wise and empowering as a human being to be told
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Truly grateful for your clear and profound Dharma teaching in this video.
Your really reinforced what I learnt from my Zen Chan Mahayana Buddhism mediation class at my Bao Lin Chan Monastery.
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True Religion.
If you're suffering from acute/severe depression then you need meds for them to bring you back to a state where you can receive meditation. After that the meds fall off and meditation takes over.
I disagree. I took meds and they actually prevented me from feeling anything. Let the pain be. At some point the pain will be large enough, that you have to let go.
@@bastian6173You definitely need meds if you are in clinical depression. A clinical depression is something physiological, usually triggered by an external, traumatic event, that has a psychological expression. You cannot simply "let it go" a major depression.
This is absolutely a fundamental core within psychology.
Thank you for sharing these words, you're thinking alone is fundamental.
Im surprised a few seconds after typing psychology you mentioned it in succession.
He’s right.
I dont have words to thank you,i’m so lucky tahnk you from the bottom of my heart
I'm cognitive - behawioral psychotherapist and I agree that mindfulness and meditation are powerful wepons against depression. But what just you said makes people with real depression even sadder.
Marcin Andrzejewski Truth is not nice or mean. It's just is
You may be what you want but this doesn’t change the facts. What you know is by study and reading. What he says is fact based upon experience. He is a mind master. And every monk or person who did buddhist meditation in a serious way knows that what he says is true. I had great series of depression in my life so I know what im talking about.
Actually many peole who thought they were totally helpless as far as any management at all, who learn this and try it out, find that it sincerly does help very quickly as another tool to help them manage their situation. ONce you understand how something actually works, it is amazing how this helps a consumer to understand that there truly IS HOPE THEY CAN LEARN TO MANAGE IT and change.
If it was an outside force, I would be helpless.. But when you learn how human cognition works and how to watch it, ( AND the kind of Mindfulness being taught today doe NOT help you see this in any way, so please don't mix it up with that.... that mindfulness was NOT what this was about...
OF course if you choose to listen and hear it only in a detrimental negative way when you hear it, without investigaing it, well, we could do this with just about any approach we could suggest together here couldn't we?
However if you just listen to it from an operative constructive angle and you then try it out... OURELY without prejudice, I think you will find something you can use to help a LOT Of people...
@@samathavipassanatrust i really dont know how can 'normal' person opens meditation course with many name: meditation in business, dealing with stress with meditation . These course requires fees. Do they think that it will cause unwholesome kamma if they teach sth wrong?!
Note to self: from the bhante's words, he said to allow feelings to come and practice loving kindness
“You feed that painful feeling with your thoughts”. Easy to say. Ever considered why we hold on to these thoughts? Perhaps because there is loss. You’ve lost something and all you have left is thoughts. We are not computers that just dump memory and move on.
Thoughts are sometimes all you have left…
Exactly..! I was thinking the same.! My loss is so personally devastating to me,... and has disrupted my life so terribly. It's caused horrible anxiety, insomnia and depression.
.... What happened to you? 🙏
@@klanderkal lost most of my family in the last 5 years. My assistant killed herself and four months ago I put my dog to sleep.
It’s been tough.
Buddhism has helped a lot but it’s not so black and white. A good book is ‘Navigating grief and Loss’ by Kimberly Brown. Really helped me. Try and be gentle with yourself and give the grief time and space. Don’t fight it.
So what if we have loss? Loss is an inevitable part of life. All things are transient and life is forever in flux . Our desire is to hold on to people and things. The core of any true spirituality is to cultivate a mindset that allows for a change in perception and not to hold on
Perfectly described in such short amount of time. I already love this man! ❤️
So clear, so on point! Thank you :)
A psychiatrist would get to the root of the problem and to get there you have to feed that feeling a little. Very hard to recognise the feeling and simply wait for it to fade away (constantly). The thing I struggle with mindfulness and meditation is that it gives little room to reflect the past, to analyse or plan the future. Worry often occurs when planning the future outcomes ... a part of being prepared for the worst.
I'm not fully onboard with this yet. I am trying.
i am feeling lonely & depressed/vulnerable after my recent third vipassana experience. maybe it is the need of the moment, because i might have been escaping & compensating the pain within me for too long through being busy but avoiding to face it. vipassana has just pointed this pain out, so i have to deal with it without postponing, looking at it as it is, forgiving myself, purifying it & moving on. i have faith it is for my own benefit, i take responsibility without blaming vipassana. i am grateful ✨
Let go of Vipassana and only practice TWIM & our style of forgiveness and 6Rs. Problem solved. The Buddha never said to avoid problems but to look at them and relax the tension and tightness that arose. Gradually it disappears for good.
@@darmstrong693 yes i am in this process, thank you
@@darmstrong693 i never said i have avoided problems. i was saying vipassana has helped me to look at my mind as it is & not compensating negative feeling rather accepting them & it is being really insightful. Goenka vipassana does lack deeper metta bhavana practice but it is really good for purification
Bhante only means that the heaviness is a sympton of depression. It can be light or severe but the key here is to "relax" into this feeling and be OK with it. Now it is important also to meditate doing Lovingkindness Meditation BUT only as he shows you how to do it. Sit 30min per day and learn the 6r method for the hindrances that arise. Bhante has done the other types of meditation and this works quickly and can we say permanently because you are letting go of craving directly. See metta instr
this monk are not atain nirvana still eat meet from death animal and tell you stupid story that he eat animal because he didnt see how some one kill animal to him to serve he bay in super market whose his explanation false budist I dont belive he atain nirvana...real monk folow the ruls no killing so real monk cannot acept eat animal because animal sombody kill for make you eat them we all now that cannot be blind
@@monikastojakovic7609 what you say is not what the Buddha said
Why does he think it would take a psychiatrist any longer to explain? Also the problem is agreeing on what depression is? What does he mean by depression? Any painful feeling that arises? Seems to broad of a definition
Bless you with metta,your holiness. I hope you come to Myanmar.
Nice explanation.....
It has been so effective and helpful to manage anxiety, worry, fear and other negative feelings that were the byproducts due to my depression all these years!! Thank god that I found out this video. Or else I would be for sure taking addictive psychotropic medications with endless list of side effects by now!!!
lot of people cant let GO
chan or zen, accept it, embrace it, get use it , be friends with it. live with it. handle it
That's right. But what kind of meditation is the best, the most effective? Tell me.
No, I haven't. Maybe you know where to find her thoughts on Internet? Let me know and I'll have a look.
Thank you sir.
Informative video. In life there are only 2 problems--mind and the body. To feel better reduce negative thoughts. Be careful what you feed your mind. Avoid comparing yourself physically or mentally with others, reduce watching negative social media and avoid constipation as it affects the mind instantly [psychosomatic problems]. Your breathing is closely related to the brain [mind] and gives relief from stress-anxiety. For a relaxed mind observe the sensations of your incoming--outgoing breath at the entrance of the nostrils for 10-15-20 minutes or more. You can sit or lie down, anywhere-anytime, neck straight and eyes closed. Never meditate with expectations but with awareness. Don’t fight your thoughts. With practice the mind will relax. Keep a reminder to observe your breath sensations throughout the day and night --before sleep, when reading, at work, at home, etc with eyes open or closed. Make this a lifetime habit to have a better life. Best wishes--Counsellor.
It is an individual and complex thing, yes. I suffer from it. i also know that one can break free of it by simply letting go of one's ego. Easy? Heck no. Work all the time? Nope. Work a good bit of the time? Yes. People are too quick to look for a drug. It's easy. I know from experience. But the drugs are a cover, not a solution. Why? Because you'll be forever dependent on them. You must change your though processes.
I was tormented by fear for 37 years. It was mixed with anger. I don't know, maybe I was a rebel kid and my hatred towards my parents, school beaks and the people was strong, when I was young. It gave me sufferings beyond imagination. Only when I got Suzuki's book about Zen and Upanishads I started to aim towards new direction. Chandogya Upanishad and Kayvalya Upanishad made great deal of impression upon my young bitten heart (bitten ass). Zen was the other love. So I practice Zen for 34 years.
In my case I had depression for 20 years. I was under supervise of a Psychiatric Doctors (19 doctors altogether) and got medications. I took haloperidol and imap injections for 15 years. Later in 1993 I started risperdal and my depressions diminished. I have been taking seroquel for 8 last years and zeldox for last two and a half. My depression disappeared gradually and there is state of pernament peace in all places and situations, now. I have no fear, too ( dentist, blood work, dark streets).
Friend, Meditation is the permanent cure for depression. Enter "Vipaasna 10 minute meditation in English or Hindi video" and follow instructions for a relaxed mind. Sit on a chair, close your eyes, be still and focus on the incoming and outgoing breath from your nostrils. A lot of thoughts will come but with daily practice negative thoughts will will not have any impact on you. Do the above meditation for 10 minutes early morning and night. Best wishes.
Hello. tell me more about your healing?
@@shyaaammeneen63 you think its very easy -to sit in depression fear anxiety-on chair in practice!? yournt right. you hadnt depression!!!
@@u_Vajiradhammo Read my updated comment below the video.
@@u_Vajiradhammo Hello. My healing from depression came from God, Krishna. Fucker tried to cure me but I was not sick at all. Only horribly exhausted with heavy work. My psychiatric Treatement would prove futile if not my awakening to Buddha Nature 41 years ago. That saved me. Shrinks, had 20 of them, care is a joke.
self centered is not selfish. They are different. One problem with extreme self centeredness is one can lose the ability to empathize.
Simple!
Highly recommend Bhante. Depression maybe self centered, or may arise out of selfless concern for the world, grief, or can just be a feeling that passes around via mirror neurons, or a result of alcohol, or drugs, or hormones(teenage,post natal). Got a teenage stepson who when he was depressed it was like he was walking around with a a bag of cut onions - contagious. The problem is no one likes to look depressed in keeping up appearances so it gets resisted and escalated. Melancholic music may help to let it go and ride it through(enjoy being depressed). B vitamins and eating fruit and tryptophan foods may help with cheerful brain chemistry levels. Anti-depressants may help If its just a product of self identified vs world thinking then Bhante's advice is pertinent.
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Why don't you try this instead of criticising the method?
If only it were that easy. It's not.
Really - At DSMC we put people through this practice and in 3-5 days most of the emotional obstacle has been reduced by ...a lot. Its just about letting go of the constant thoughts about whatever you are feeling. Let it go.
I have a chemical imbalance and must take medicine. I have tried to come off of the meds and became very depressed and suicidal.
Yes, it is chemical; but it is also a multidimensional, interconnected matrix of processes colliding and interacting that can be seen for what it is, and through training in meditating and mindfulness, one can learn to detach and disidentify with one's attachment and aversion to ideas of a self that is depressed. This doesn't change the reality; it simply helps one to transcend ones pain experienced through taking these thoughts to be real and to be real reflections of a real reality that is purely confabulated by a mind trying to maintain equilibrium and integrity in whatever way it was evolved to do. You learn through an arduous cultivation of these methods of meditation to learn not to experience your thoughts personally without trying to repress or kowtow to them. I hope this helps clarify your confusion!
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I get it. Thinking while the feeling is affecting you will only feed it because it depends on your energy to harm you. They're not telling you to become stupid and abolish every analysis, curiosity and desire to know, don't take it that far. There are benefic desires and actions to be taken in the world.
The Buddha was basically a "philosopher genius", besides being virtuous.
How please??
www.dhammasukha.org/brief-forgiveness-instructions.html
@@DhammasukhaOrg Thankyou so very much.
@begintosee When I had depression I didn't feel any pain you talking about. I felt longing-nostomania and heaviness in chest. No pain. The meditation you talk I practiced for 25 years until my knees broke and I have not sit for 7 years. I was doing mahamudra Mind Nature meditation and shikantaza Zen meditation. I have been in state of samadhi 24/7 for about 15 years, at peace with my true Self and God Krsna/Ganesh/Siva/Christ/Avalokitesvara/Padmasambhava/Amitabha. I am at peace, now.
in the middle east happiness is a decision not a feeling
I found this "Mindfulness Meditation" (acceptance of thoughts and feelings part 1 & 2) on yt ..which I thought was quite good.
He obviously doesn't know what depression is, probably because he've never had it. He is talking about SADNESS, it's not the same thing as depression at all!
I do Belive that their way of living could be good for not getting an depression in the first place. Psychological pressure in long term, damage the brain and causes it. When you have it you must seek treatment and it can take a while to be cured. You have to be patient and also the ones around you too. It's a Deadly disease like cancer unfortunately, people just don't understand that. I believe that a good way to get back to life from depression is with mindfulness etc.
Manjula Nilsson the mind is more powerful than you think, it's when you believe you don't have control that you lose yourself, taking meds is giving in, accepting you're not in charge. You become powerless in your own body. Depression is a disease, totally agree, but it isn't curable by meds, it's a personal journey. They can help calm you down but it's a fake feeling. Never heard of anyone overcoming depression thanks to drugs, only through up and downed self realization.
Actually Bhante talked about how he would lock himself in a room when he was young and experience depression. Sadness, grief, depression are all based on a feeling arising. Taking it personally and thinking about it and repeating the cycle over and over.
No, he's right. I was diagnosed at 17 and am now 44; been on an ssri antidepressant my whole adult life and been suicidal many times. When the mind state comes over one, it's just a feeling; you do not have to act on it. The problem for most is that without a practice and enough experience, it's overwhelming. I've needed "talking down" a few times. Now, it's less powerful and I know what's happening. Having said all that, some people DO need medication and no amount of meditation can cure an imbalanced biochemistry immediately.
Chris - The thing that is different here is that when you meditate you start to see that the feeling that comes up is truly "not yours". Gradually as you get deeper you get to a point where there is a point of transcendence and the idea of self disappears. When there is no craving clinging self those feelings may arise but they aren't latched onto and taken as yours - they are just taken as feeling with no emotional reaction whatsoever. It does work - many students that have gone deep into the practice say that not only do they not get depressed but that they simply can't even see how it could ever arise again. Why? because the self that the feeling latched onto is gone. When you chop down the tree, down go the branches! Why don't you take an online retreat for a week and see what this practice is all about. Meditate at home and try it. With kindness www.dhammasuka.org
Manjula Nilsson Okay, but are you going to try what he recommended?
How to end desire?
Later Bhakti yoga and Tibetan Buddhadharma appeared. Not unexpectedly. By a throw of karma, I think. Lam Rim, mahamudra and dzog-chen. I met two Buddhist teachers: Zen master Seung Sahn and Tibetan lama Geshe Khenrab Gajam Tobgye. They took care of me and my life underwent, let's say transformation. There is not much left of the old "me" and not much of "me" exists today. I also got company of Ganesha and Siva in a Montreal factory where I was working and got second nervous breakdown.
There really are no helpful stories (clinging) no matter how brilliant they seem at the time - just more suffering.
Bhante, with all due respect it would be unfair to generalise all those who suffer from depression to be self-centered.
There are a number of those who genuinely need medical help and are not expressive about it. Depression comes in all forms and behaviour; even silent ones as well.
We really need to be fair and sensitive about how we talk about this delicate topic and not generalise everyone under the same umbrella.
It will not serve anyone suffering from depression if we approach them this way, pragmatic as the way you explain it. We need more tact and sensitivity on this. Thank you.
Very wise words. While some may need additional medical attention the 6 R's can get to the core of this debilitating disease.
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This monk is telling, that Depression is feeling some pain and discomfort. He is wrong here. I've had Depression for about 20 years, very strong and severe heaviness in place of my chest, so I had to lie down in bed to battle it, for two hours, everyday. I've been taking strong meds for this condition and owing to them I'm still alive. I studied and practised ZEN and Taoism, specially CHI GONG Breathing Exercises, for almost 20 years and these practices helped me to recover, plus shrink's meds.
What he means Hidden Depression in many people, Light Depression not the Heavy Depression
No such categories. It's either clinical Unipolar Depression, Bipolar I or II Depression, or a general malaise that is situational or environmental. Of which, he addresses both simultaneously. You have to "hear with your eyes," or you will never grasp the profundity of this wisdom.
The other one is Ken Cohen's "Taoist Chi Gong Breathing Exercises" to make your Chi flow harmonious and your Hara Center strong. It will take 90 minutes of exercise every second day. You just sit on a chair and breathe. Find him on internet, too. From myself I suggest to observe at time when you in bed at night, before you lose consciousness, images and sounds appearing to you before you fall asleep. If you get it right you'll get insights and revelations, which will help you to feel better.OK?
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Your reasoning is very innovative. Thanks. I never thought I'm deep in concepts. But I don't understand why haven't you eaten a tangerine, yet? Any unusual obstacles? Try a tangerine. That's all I have to say to you.
@begintosee The practices of monk you try to promote here are useless to me. My teacher told me: " Put it all down. Don't make anything. Moment to moment just do it! When hungry, eat. When tired, sleep. That's all." I can see clearly you yourself are confused. Absorbtion Meditation? I have eating a tangerine meditation. Drinking a banana milkshake meditation. Watching this blue sky and stars at night meditation. I feel well. Have nice staying place. I'm lying on a sofa,now, smilling.
Agree, disagree-doesn't matter. What counts is, where does your depression come from? Buy for yourself CD, "Guided Relaxation And Affirmations For Inner Peace" by Sri Swami Satchitananda and try that. That will help you better than discussions and conversations.
Jst flick a switch and your pain is gone.... no need for medication or doctors.... just flip that switch in your soul and all your problems are gone. What bullshit.
I have been self centered for years, as everybody else. Are you not self centered? Oh, boy. As to materialistic and physical wants I must admit when young, there were too many. Maybe I wanted some toys when had none. Were your mama and dad buying you expensive toys like a cowboy suit with colts, electric car models you could drive them by a remote control or an electric train models? Today I see kids who made it all, sank in a sea of toys, drank on pleasures and bliss. Oh, boy. You must be one.
I think if you just take care of yourself, let's say for your own "spirituality", and you are in a monastery or with people who take care of you...... it works. But with all the respect that this holy man can inspire and with all the respect that I can have for difference opinions, I would like to know what this sympathetic monk did for his family and community? Let's say for improving the life of all that are in the need? And works, for his own health? I spend sometime with gays repeating chants and mantras along the day, having wonderful "philosophical talks" and getting tree meals a day. It was "fantastic", no stress, no depression, no fear, no anger, just flying in this great atmosphere. But all these guys, didn't have children to feed, work to do (or to loose), tax responsibilities for the well being of the community. So I insist, this work, but go to tell war refugees or hungry people who has nothing for feeding their babies tonight all this great techniques.....
Reply for venerable dj: Bhante worked in a hospice taking care of dying people which his mother ran; sitting at besides of dying people giving a sense of peace to them. He did this work on occasion for a few years in Malaysia where he was at a temple there. He has helped so many people overcome their depression and become happier. Even if you have food you can be miserable because of your mental anguish. This is the job of a monk - to enlighten. The job of lay people is to feed the hungry and be generous and that's what he teaches his students. This is the Buddhist community. The monks teach the way of life and the meditation and the lay people follow these precepts and develop their virtue through generous acts and taking care of the monks.
What did he do? He selflessly gave up all of his possessions and faced ostracism from his family, friends, and society in order to take the bodhisattva vow to put all beings before oneself through overcoming one's own limitations. No monk ever claimed to be perfect. If you work with them, you will notice that they sacrificed their whole lives and material comforts to help alleviate others' mental afflictions and turmoil. Really, there is no greater sacrifice. Also good to note that I am ordained in the Soto Zen and Dzogchen traditions, am a counselor for kids and am a single father all at once. Sure, the monastery in a wonderful, tranquil, peaceful place; but is it adverse from human relationships and problems going along with the suffering beings who practice or live there? No. I found it to be a different shade of suffering than outside it. Samsara and nirvana are simultaneously co-present, and therefore, understanding this, one knows that by choosing to live in a monastery, one is trading one kind of suffering for another in order be able to cultivate greater peace by being in a supportive environment where one can concentrate and focus in solitude and silence for most of the day. It is possible to juggle samsaric responsibilities with the Buddhist path.
May you be blessed in happiness and love!
It was in 1894. I landed in a nuthouse. Police took me there from my good home. I haven't worked since and devoted to study Dharma and sit in meditation. As I mentioned before, my life was on the rocks and not a bed of roses. It has been painful and despite of few relieves proposed by Buddhist masters or Hindu gods I still am not completely out of the woods. But I feel not bad. Have no depression and no fear. It is great. You read lotus sutra. That's good. NO depression? Very good for you.
What about child rape victims. Are they causing their own depression
Obviously they didn't cause what happened to them but when they reflect back about what happened and a painful feeling arises they will definitely take it personally, get involved with it, and think about it over and over. So one must see these painful feelings arise and not grab hold of them and twist them around and get involved with them. The Buddha said Feeling is only feeling and impersonal. When we "Don't Like" the feeling and try to push it away. This is where we cause ourselves suffering. When one just sees it impersonally and not you then suffering doesn't arise. You have to break the chain at Feeling.
No, but they're identifying with their pain, which feeds the cycle of pain. Thus, he is right, and worldly beings are perpetuating and exacerbating their own environmental suffering by multiplying their own problems; and when someone points this out, it's vetted through misconceptions of each person, which are projected onto this idea about this object, person, or concept/thought, and they simply draw-out the pain to a greater degree than if they dis-identified with the thoughts are attached or aversive to the past incident. It never accuses anyone of being the causes of their situations. Nor does it blame people for suffering from traumatic situations. It doesn't even dismiss that these situations are real. The intention and logic behind his speech are that suffering happens, but the cycle of mental suffering can be alleviated or softened through meditation or mindfulness practices. Beings suffer just because they are alive. The pain of the suffering, great or small, is nobody's fault. How we learn work with that pain is to begin to perceive our thoughts as not-us and not-somebody/something else, and also neither both of these two, or neither of them...Things just are. And when that clicks, all that emotional baggage from clinging or rejecting that experiences simply falls away until all that remains is acceptance and an empowered sense of wellbeing!
Many blessings!
The perpetrators will certainly experience the dark results of their actions, he's just showing a method so the victims can get rid of the pain that was caused to them. Otherwise they're trapped in a cycle and that's totally unfair. They've already suffered enough!
There're some illnesses where your powers of will, no matter how great they may become, are useless and too small. I DID NOT FEEL ANY PAIN in my Depressions. It was rather gloomy and sad feelings, nostomania, longing and bad mood. Like a Dog who's longing for his Master-Friend whose he'll never see again and he knows about that. This kind of Depression. What this monk's speaking about is baloney to me. He'll never heal strong Depression by meditation. Healing needs strong, correct medication.
You wrote me, you was sad and disappointed of life that's why you suspect you have had depression, uncured by doctors' intervention and their medication was useless. Only when you got lotus sutra depression went away. Really? Only you know how you feel. If no problem then no problem. If there's a problem then each problem has its solution, yes? I'm not an expert on Psychiatry and its methods to deal with depression. In my case Psychiatry & Dharma, together works. In your case maybe wrong doctor.
Wrong doctor is like a wrong teacher. In this case a good Psychiatrists and a good Dharma teacher can work together. No problem. But who is good teacher? Good teacher brings relief immediately. If teacher is Buddha I mean awakened expert, then few words of instruction is enough to bring student to awakening and perfect health. For you I suggest to buy "Guided Relaxation & Affirmations For Inner Peace" by Sri Swami Satchitananda. You may find him on internet. Have a look. It is very good exercise
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He likely has never been persistently deeply depressed. He may serve himself and others better by disclosing his history. He seems to have a superficial attitude about this problem.
Yeah. Depression isn't about thoughts. You could have no thoughts and no distractions and still be depressed. It just eats you from inside and you can't do anything about it. If you're depressed, get on meds and seek psychotherapy - that's the only cure.
@@fghfghsrtsrthsrthsrt5968Meditation is the permanent cure for depression. Enter "Vipaasna 10 minute meditation in English video" and follow instructions for a relaxed mind. Sit on a chair, close your eyes, be still and focus on the incoming and outgoing breath from your nostrils. A lot of thoughts will come but with daily practice negative thoughts will will not have any impact on you. Do the above meditation for 10 minutes early morning and night. Best wishes.
@@shyaaammeneen63 I've done meditation for 8 years. I suffer from depression and I have states of mind and suffering that you cannot even imagine. Numbness, emotionlessness, hopelessness, etc etc. Meditation isn't a cure for depression. You're just going to meditate while being numb, that's it.
fghfghsrt srthsrthsrt At least practice what I have said-Expect and experience positive changes but I if lose the battle in the mind nothing will change. The meditation I told you takes only 10 minutes
@@shyaaammeneen63 I've practiced meditation for 8 years.
Im really sorry but i think all the respescted Buddhist teachers have not undeestood how it is to be a Healthcare professional who tales on others pain and problems and give and give and suffering from tiredness and fatigue. Ita absolutely not to do with self centredness. Its the opposite. Theres more than one way that depression can result in the mind and there's different forms. Burnout is a form of depression
If you study Buddhism and mindfulness practice, then you will learn not to take on others problems. This doesn't mean you can't be compassionate or empathetic, it means you can witness the problems they have as something external, note them and let go. Of course this takes time and a lot of work. It is also fair to say that if more communities were taught these practices, then mental health would improve, reducing the need for healthcare professionals
Kim, Meditation is the permanent cure for depression. Enter "Vipaasna 10 minute meditation in English video" and follow instructions for a relaxed mind. Sit on a chair, close your eyes, be still and focus on the incoming and outgoing breath from your nostrils. A lot of thoughts will come but with daily practice negative thoughts will will not have any impact on you. Do the above meditation for 10 minutes early morning and night. You need not follow the sound on the video. Best wishes.