Great video..wondering if you would share your nitrox stick set up? Just bought my own compressor and would like to start making nitrox. Thanks in advance
Hello @user-cd7cg6ez1b, we will be happy to share our plans with you. We recently shared an email with a viewer, and it may have been you, showing how we built our Nitrox Stik. If it wasn't you, send us an email to info@lakehickoryscuba.com, and we will be happy to share the plans on how to build your very own.
Thank you for sharing this video it's been a while since I took the nitrox class and this was very helpful to me. I'm just a recreation diver and don't use this information on a regular basis and sometimes hard to recall with all the other demands sometimes life throws at us. Thanks again for all your help.
Hey, Bryan thanks for your videos. I have been looking at your nitrox videos, they are helping me out a lot. With everything going on in the word, work and life it's been hard to get back into scuba. That being said I have an SSI IE July 11th and 12th. I have to come up with a 15 min powerpoint on what is Nitrox. So just letting you know your videos are helping me get back into the grove. Thanks Again Chris
Most shops will either use partial pressure blending or continuous blending method due to cost. Membrane systems tend to be more expensive, and most shops choose not to make the investment upfront.
I watched your new cylinder prep video where you covered your cascade fills. Since you bleed down one customer cylinder to another to equalize all cylinders being filled is there a risk of someone having a cylinder that was previously filled with a higher O2 mix than air messing with the other cylinder being filled where their air MOD could be affected? Obviously we check mixed gas fills, and I’ve caught bad fills before (27% that’s should have been 32%). After that I also started checking air fills just to be sure that there wasn’t an error filling them.
Hello Caleb Mcelhaney, our fill operators are trained specifically on our fill stations, and for any mixed gas, they verify all mixes after the fill. Top offs as some would call them, can cause certain mixtures to be wrong. This is why all of our fill operators are required to go through the SSI XR Gas Blender course and they routinely get trained in compressor maintainence as well. Customers are also required to verify fills prior to leaving with their cylinders. We encourage all customers to verify even their air fills prior to diving.
Hello Chris Payne, if you are asking about the smaller compressor unit, well its a compressor. If you are referring to the PVC Pipe mounted on the wall, that is the Nitrox Blending Stick.
@@chrispayne806 It seems you're confusing two things. There's only one compressor in the video: the blue Bauer Junior II. That's what compresses the gas into the cylinder. It pulls in gas through the yellow/green Nitrox mixing stick. The stick has two inputs, air from the tip and pure oxygen on the side from that big cylinder (which has a pressure reducer on it, a simple regulator valve). Inside the stick, the air and oxygen mixes and a nitrox analyzer at the bottom of the stick gives the operator feedback so they can adjust the oxygen input flow to get the desired mix on the output. That output goes straight into the compressor and from there into your cylinder.
Hi Brian, Thanks for posting video, I do my own high pressure nitrox mixing as home presently but obviously pain as cylinder pressure starts dropping, im interested in making my own mixing stick suitable for 3cfm compressor, i presume you built yours and wondered if you would mind giving me some pointers , i.e diameter pipe ,size amount wiffle balls ,anything special you need to do is it basically just a big baffle?, Many thanks, Darren
Hello Darren Gibbs. Send me an email to bryan@lakehickoryscuba, and I will be happy to share some plans with you on how to build your own Nitrox Stick.
@@LakeHickoryScuba Thanks Bryan I couldn't get message to send via your personal one you sent me but have managed via your shop/business email , If that finds you OK?, Regards, Darren
Hey Darren Gibbs, not sure what is going on with my email, but I received on the company's and have responded to it. There are plans and pictures attached. Hope this helps.
Bryan - I enjoy your videos. I don't mean this question as a "gotcha" one--I just want to see if I am missing something. I assume the process of filling the tank in the video was a continuous one and so what you set the initial fill for the stick is what you should get when you do the final analysis with the hand-held sensor. Given that assumption, I didn't understand why the locked in pressure on the O2 sensor was set at 31.3% (7:00 minute point on the video) while you later said it measured 29.9% (9:00 minute point). Did I miss something (sadly, not a rare occurrence!)? Thanks.
Hello @dkk923, great question. This particular cylinder most likely had a lower blend in it to begin with. By adding the 31% to it, it mixed it up to the 30%. We have several videos showing how we mix different blends that you may find interesting. Mixing Nitrox from Nitrox th-cam.com/video/mWrtxyFKF-g/w-d-xo.html
Hi there Quick question, why the analyser before the compressor was reading 31.3 and after filling was marking 29.9 And should you leave venting a bit before filling the actual cylinder? Thanks in advance Manny
Hello @user-he8hy2cc3t, the short answer here is Charles's Law. Partial pressure will change as temperature changes. During the filling process, the gas is heated during the compression stage, and over time will cool, thus losing pressure. When this happens, mixes can change.
Hello jbunderwaterservices4132, from the beginning of time (the beginning of the scuba industry selling mixed gases), there has always been differences in opinons on using Oxygen Cleaned Cylinders for anything other than standard breathing gas 21%. Fill station operators are required to abide by DOT and CGA gas laws in the United States. Most shops (non International Training Shops) that are certified through PSI / PCI, will require cylinders to be Oxygen Cleaned for any gas mixture above 21%. What you are referring to as Nitrox Cleaned is not an accurate way to describe the actual cleanning of the cylinder. With Oxygen Cleanning, the entire purpose of the process is to eliminate all hydrocarbons from the cylinder. Once this is complete, as long as Modified Grade E Air (Oxygen Clean Air) is used, the cylinder will remain Oxygen Cleaned until the cylinder valve is removed. Once atmospheric air is re-introduced into the cylinder, it theoretically is no longer Oxygen Cleaned. Now the argument we here all the time is, if you are using pre-mixed or pre-blended gas mixtures (in short a Nitrox Stik mixing station) then the risk of the fire triangle occuring is limited to the point, the fire hazzard no longer exist. Only during the mixing phase of partial pressure blending, does the fill operator have a substantial risk of injury. Whether a fill operator follows this way of thinking or not, he or she is still bound by the insurance company that covers the shop, and the current DOT and CGA gas laws. Thus, they follow the rules. The simpliest solution to not have to worry about the shop giving you any hassle is to buy a small compressor and building your own Nitrox Stik for practically nothing. I have built them in the past for less than $100. You can pick up a small compressor for around $2000. Thus, for $2100, this would be paid for after about 210 fills, not including filters, oxygen, and normal maintainence fees.
Hello Farooq Mansoor, you present a great question. Thankfully we have what is called the 40% rule. And since we are mixing blends at 40% and less via continuous blending, the risk of an explosion is negligible.
@@LakeHickoryScuba thanks a lot man for the reply. I myself is an Divemaster and planning to pursue my Technical course. Ur video was great help and motivating. Continue what u do. Peace ✌️
Hello lee Owen, glad you liked the video. I am very familiar with a membrane compressor system. Outside of visiting shops that use them, and playing with them at DEMA, the big diving show each year, I have never owned one. We recently purchases a new compressor a few years ago, and was considering getting one. We opted out for several business and financial reasons.
@@LakeHickoryScuba very cool, just making sure, we just launched a low level CO detector for scuba and when I heard the noise (with no smoke or coughing) I figured you did the right thing, cheerz my man!
@@LakeHickoryScuba also would love to get your inputs on a article OXYGEN ANALYZERS for scuba, feel free to include anything I missed, cheerz www.forensicsdetectors.com/blogs/articles/forensics-detectors-launches-new-oxygen-analyzer-for-scuba-diving
Hello DrKoz Forensics Detectors, the article looked good. The only questionable bit of information was under the "What is Enriched Air Nitrox?" heading. I believe its the 5th sentence, "In recreational diving, Nitrox contains oxygen from 28-36% oxygen." Most if not all WRSTC Training agencies recognize Enriched Air as any O2N2 Gas mixture with a partial pressure of O2 above 21%. Recreational mixes ranging between 21%-40%. Hope this helps.
I love the setup you got. I have the same compressor. But where did you get the blending tube or the kit? Did you make it your self? I live 5 hrs away from any one that can blend. I would love to put together my own blending set up and I like yours. I’m an instructor. I’m a tech diver. I have done a lot of nitrox fills when I worked for a dive store, but we pre blended in banks. Now that I’m on my own I would like to put together a kit like yours. It’s perfect for just me. Nice video by the way.
Hello yann devouassoux, this was one of our old back up compressors that we have now replaced. The Blending Stick was made by us, and is very simple to do. Send us an email, lakehickoryscuba@gmail.com, and we can send you the plans on how to make your own.
Hello Gee, great question. In short, it to would shorten the amount of time one would need to wait before ascending to altitude. Still a minimum of 24 hours is strongly encouraged.
Hello David allen, we have several compressors. This is the one we use for Nitrox fills. We have a much larger Bauer that we use for most air fills. It has 4 cascade cylinders that we typically will fill from.
How much does the air flow through the stick (and therefore the amount of O2 you have to add) change as the tank fills? I'd assume it slows down significantly as the pressure goes up. Also how do you like that QuickStick analyzer? I've been thinking of getting one just to double check my own tanks.
it does not change. the compressor runs at a constant rpm so the inlet takes in the same as if it is at 100psi as it would at 3000psi the only time they mess up is if your O2 reg is bad or the compressor belt is loose but that should not happen with a proper look over before you use it. i added a solenoid valve to shut off the O2 when the compressor shuts off or losses power. just so no O2 builds up. a pure O2 hit in the compressor could be very bad
Hello Dan Bowkley, b st john explains it very well. The intake can only take in so much air at a time. The micro adjustment on the O2 cylinder only controls how much O2 flows into the Nitrox Stick itself. As far as the analyzer, I have used just about all of them. They all work great, this just happens to be the ones I am using now.
I see your Bauer Junior II compressor with electric drive. 😀 I have the petrol version and it was honestly one of the best decisions I made for my dive gear. Great vid thanks for sharing. 🤙 Cheers, #SeattleRingHunter
Hi and thanks for all your videos I like them a lot. What diameter and length is the pipe in your Nitrox stick? What size are the wiffle balls and how many do you have in there? If you come over to Iceland contact me and I can help you find the best spots for diving over here :)
Hello Julius Albertsson, send me an email saying hello, and I can send you some plans on how to build your own Nitrox Stick. lakehickoryscuba@gmail.com
Geez you are doing it all wrong, everyone knows you use BLUE masking tape. LOL One danger of a cold cold fill is that the pressure can shoot up if the water is warmer. I remember a cold day (well for Florida at 60 degrees) I setup my tanks, and put them in the spring water (at 72 degrees) when I went to put them on they went up another 250psi.
Thankfully Charle's Law plays a big role in the matter. For every 1 degree temperature change, your PSI will either raise or lower 5 psi. With this being said, most valves are rated to 5000 psi, as is the test pressure of most standard 3000 psi cylinders. So the likelihood of a cylinder being jeopardized by an over fill due to heating up, is highly unlikely.
Here in California a tank can get pretty hot sitting in a car but burst disks are rated for at least 25% over working pressure. I've had bad tank valve o-rings go but never a burst disk.
Really like the idea of the tape over the small nitrox stickers
Hello Shawn Skiver, we have been doing this for years. More space to write on and its cheaper.
Great video..wondering if you would share your nitrox stick set up?
Just bought my own compressor and would like to start making nitrox.
Thanks in advance
Hello @user-cd7cg6ez1b, we will be happy to share our plans with you. We recently shared an email with a viewer, and it may have been you, showing how we built our Nitrox Stik. If it wasn't you, send us an email to info@lakehickoryscuba.com, and we will be happy to share the plans on how to build your very own.
Thank you for sharing this video it's been a while since I took the nitrox class and this was very helpful to me. I'm just a recreation diver and don't use this information on a regular basis and sometimes hard to recall with all the other demands sometimes life throws at us. Thanks again for all your help.
You're welcome David. Make sure to check out all the other Nitrox videos we did, we think they will be very helpful for you.
@@LakeHickoryScuba will do thanks
Hey, Bryan thanks for your videos. I have been looking at your nitrox videos, they are helping me out a lot. With everything going on in the word, work and life it's been hard to get back into scuba. That being said I have an SSI IE July 11th and 12th. I have to come up with a 15 min powerpoint on what is Nitrox. So just letting you know your videos are helping me get back into the grove. Thanks Again Chris
Hello tazccl (Chris), I am glad to hear that our videos are helping you out. Good luck on your IE in July, let me know how it goes.
Thanks Bryan! I answered my own question about The tank It has a DIN not a yoke
Glad you got your answer Searching 4.
So do you prefer to add compressed O2 rather than use a membrane type system? When would you use one over the other?? Thanks!
Most shops will either use partial pressure blending or continuous blending method due to cost. Membrane systems tend to be more expensive, and most shops choose not to make the investment upfront.
I watched your new cylinder prep video where you covered your cascade fills. Since you bleed down one customer cylinder to another to equalize all cylinders being filled is there a risk of someone having a cylinder that was previously filled with a higher O2 mix than air messing with the other cylinder being filled where their air MOD could be affected? Obviously we check mixed gas fills, and I’ve caught bad fills before (27% that’s should have been 32%). After that I also started checking air fills just to be sure that there wasn’t an error filling them.
Hello Caleb Mcelhaney, our fill operators are trained specifically on our fill stations, and for any mixed gas, they verify all mixes after the fill. Top offs as some would call them, can cause certain mixtures to be wrong. This is why all of our fill operators are required to go through the SSI XR Gas Blender course and they routinely get trained in compressor maintainence as well. Customers are also required to verify fills prior to leaving with their cylinders. We encourage all customers to verify even their air fills prior to diving.
What is the pump that whip is connected or coming from and what’s the reason it is needed?
Hello Chris Payne, if you are asking about the smaller compressor unit, well its a compressor. If you are referring to the PVC Pipe mounted on the wall, that is the Nitrox Blending Stick.
What is the small compressor unit actually for since the compressor is the one pumping the air into the tanks? Just curious knowledge is power.
@@chrispayne806 It seems you're confusing two things. There's only one compressor in the video: the blue Bauer Junior II. That's what compresses the gas into the cylinder. It pulls in gas through the yellow/green Nitrox mixing stick. The stick has two inputs, air from the tip and pure oxygen on the side from that big cylinder (which has a pressure reducer on it, a simple regulator valve). Inside the stick, the air and oxygen mixes and a nitrox analyzer at the bottom of the stick gives the operator feedback so they can adjust the oxygen input flow to get the desired mix on the output. That output goes straight into the compressor and from there into your cylinder.
I didn't know how all this worked... Thank you for the education... 🙏
You're welcome David Taylor.
Hi Brian,
Thanks for posting video,
I do my own high pressure nitrox mixing as home presently but obviously pain as cylinder pressure starts dropping, im interested in making my own mixing stick suitable for 3cfm compressor, i presume you built yours and wondered if you would mind giving me some pointers , i.e diameter pipe ,size amount wiffle balls ,anything special you need to do is it basically just a big baffle?,
Many thanks,
Darren
Hello Darren Gibbs. Send me an email to bryan@lakehickoryscuba, and I will be happy to share some plans with you on how to build your own Nitrox Stick.
@@LakeHickoryScuba Thanks Bryan I couldn't get message to send via your personal one you sent me but have managed via your shop/business email ,
If that finds you OK?,
Regards,
Darren
Hey Darren Gibbs, not sure what is going on with my email, but I received on the company's and have responded to it. There are plans and pictures attached. Hope this helps.
Bryan - I enjoy your videos. I don't mean this question as a "gotcha" one--I just want to see if I am missing something. I assume the process of filling the tank in the video was a continuous one and so what you set the initial fill for the stick is what you should get when you do the final analysis with the hand-held sensor. Given that assumption, I didn't understand why the locked in pressure on the O2 sensor was set at 31.3% (7:00 minute point on the video) while you later said it measured 29.9% (9:00 minute point). Did I miss something (sadly, not a rare occurrence!)? Thanks.
Hello @dkk923, great question. This particular cylinder most likely had a lower blend in it to begin with. By adding the 31% to it, it mixed it up to the 30%. We have several videos showing how we mix different blends that you may find interesting.
Mixing Nitrox from Nitrox
th-cam.com/video/mWrtxyFKF-g/w-d-xo.html
@@LakeHickoryScuba Good point. I figured there was some possibility I was missing! Thanks. :-)
Hi there
Quick question, why the analyser before the compressor was reading 31.3 and after filling was marking 29.9
And should you leave venting a bit before filling the actual cylinder?
Thanks in advance
Manny
Hello @user-he8hy2cc3t, the short answer here is Charles's Law. Partial pressure will change as temperature changes. During the filling process, the gas is heated during the compression stage, and over time will cool, thus losing pressure. When this happens, mixes can change.
Have you done any videos or any need for the difference between nitrox clean and O2 clean? Hearing differ8things from different people
Hello jbunderwaterservices4132, from the beginning of time (the beginning of the scuba industry selling mixed gases), there has always been differences in opinons on using Oxygen Cleaned Cylinders for anything other than standard breathing gas 21%. Fill station operators are required to abide by DOT and CGA gas laws in the United States. Most shops (non International Training Shops) that are certified through PSI / PCI, will require cylinders to be Oxygen Cleaned for any gas mixture above 21%. What you are referring to as Nitrox Cleaned is not an accurate way to describe the actual cleanning of the cylinder. With Oxygen Cleanning, the entire purpose of the process is to eliminate all hydrocarbons from the cylinder. Once this is complete, as long as Modified Grade E Air (Oxygen Clean Air) is used, the cylinder will remain Oxygen Cleaned until the cylinder valve is removed. Once atmospheric air is re-introduced into the cylinder, it theoretically is no longer Oxygen Cleaned. Now the argument we here all the time is, if you are using pre-mixed or pre-blended gas mixtures (in short a Nitrox Stik mixing station) then the risk of the fire triangle occuring is limited to the point, the fire hazzard no longer exist. Only during the mixing phase of partial pressure blending, does the fill operator have a substantial risk of injury. Whether a fill operator follows this way of thinking or not, he or she is still bound by the insurance company that covers the shop, and the current DOT and CGA gas laws. Thus, they follow the rules. The simpliest solution to not have to worry about the shop giving you any hassle is to buy a small compressor and building your own Nitrox Stik for practically nothing. I have built them in the past for less than $100. You can pick up a small compressor for around $2000. Thus, for $2100, this would be paid for after about 210 fills, not including filters, oxygen, and normal maintainence fees.
@@LakeHickoryScuba thank you, you just reinforced what I thought was correct.
Hey brian. That’s a brilliant idea. But what happens if the oxygen is contact in with oil inside the compressor Does it not initiate flame hazard?
Hello Farooq Mansoor, you present a great question. Thankfully we have what is called the 40% rule. And since we are mixing blends at 40% and less via continuous blending, the risk of an explosion is negligible.
@@LakeHickoryScuba thanks a lot man for the reply. I myself is an Divemaster and planning to pursue my Technical course. Ur video was great help and motivating. Continue what u do.
Peace ✌️
Great video! Currently doing Enriched Air course - good content in this video!
Thanks Sahil Govender, glad you liked the video.
very cool, thanks for this. you ever play with a membrane system?
Hello lee Owen, glad you liked the video. I am very familiar with a membrane compressor system. Outside of visiting shops that use them, and playing with them at DEMA, the big diving show each year, I have never owned one. We recently purchases a new compressor a few years ago, and was considering getting one. We opted out for several business and financial reasons.
How long does an O2 tank last you when blending to 30%?
Hello @user-cd7cg6ez1b, depends on how large of a cylinder you are using, and how you blend your gas.
Wow. Another great video.
Thanks troop1026
Took you so long to put that desk cap on I feel like you owe me a beer. Lol, love your vids bro.
Glad you like the videos don r.
thanks for showing your setup, quick question what pre filter do you have on the nitrox stick intake?
Its just another smaller air filter.
You selling those sticks?
are you running the compressor indoors? where is the exhaust going my man?
Hello DrKoz Forensics Detectors, our intake is piped from outside the building, so no worries of contaminated air.
@@LakeHickoryScuba very cool, just making sure, we just launched a low level CO detector for scuba and when I heard the noise (with no smoke or coughing) I figured you did the right thing, cheerz my man!
@@LakeHickoryScuba also would love to get your inputs on a article OXYGEN ANALYZERS for scuba, feel free to include anything I missed, cheerz
www.forensicsdetectors.com/blogs/articles/forensics-detectors-launches-new-oxygen-analyzer-for-scuba-diving
Hello DrKoz Forensics Detectors, the article looked good. The only questionable bit of information was under the "What is Enriched Air Nitrox?" heading. I believe its the 5th sentence, "In recreational diving, Nitrox contains oxygen from 28-36% oxygen." Most if not all WRSTC Training agencies recognize Enriched Air as any O2N2 Gas mixture with a partial pressure of O2 above 21%. Recreational mixes ranging between 21%-40%. Hope this helps.
@@LakeHickoryScuba ok great input, made changes, thank you for that!
Appreciate your video. Thanks and have a great day!
You're welcome Manuel Centeno, glad you liked the video.
I love the setup you got. I have the same compressor. But where did you get the blending tube or the kit? Did you make it your self? I live 5 hrs away from any one that can blend. I would love to put together my own blending set up and I like yours. I’m an instructor. I’m a tech diver. I have done a lot of nitrox fills when I worked for a dive store, but we pre blended in banks. Now that I’m on my own I would like to put together a kit like yours. It’s perfect for just me. Nice video by the way.
Hello yann devouassoux, this was one of our old back up compressors that we have now replaced. The Blending Stick was made by us, and is very simple to do. Send us an email, lakehickoryscuba@gmail.com, and we can send you the plans on how to make your own.
How much does it cost for the complete setup excluding the compressor?
Hello mamdhooh mohamed, you can build a simple Nitrox Stick for less than $100 USD.
Hey Bryan, got a questionable for you. EANx shortens your surface intervals due to less nitrogen intake.... so how would this affect fly time?
Hello Gee, great question. In short, it to would shorten the amount of time one would need to wait before ascending to altitude. Still a minimum of 24 hours is strongly encouraged.
Is that actually the compressor you use to fill tanks? Or just for blending gases? I have the same compressor i believe.
Hello David allen, we have several compressors. This is the one we use for Nitrox fills. We have a much larger Bauer that we use for most air fills. It has 4 cascade cylinders that we typically will fill from.
Is your compressor compatible with O2 over 21%?
Yes it is. We have it tested for modified grade E air, and we use the appropriate filters for it as well. We never run above 40% through it though.
How much does the air flow through the stick (and therefore the amount of O2 you have to add) change as the tank fills? I'd assume it slows down significantly as the pressure goes up.
Also how do you like that QuickStick analyzer? I've been thinking of getting one just to double check my own tanks.
it does not change. the compressor runs at a constant rpm so the inlet takes in the same as if it is at 100psi as it would at 3000psi the only time they mess up is if your O2 reg is bad or the compressor belt is loose but that should not happen with a proper look over before you use it. i added a solenoid valve to shut off the O2 when the compressor shuts off or losses power. just so no O2 builds up. a pure O2 hit in the compressor could be very bad
Hello Dan Bowkley, b st john explains it very well. The intake can only take in so much air at a time. The micro adjustment on the O2 cylinder only controls how much O2 flows into the Nitrox Stick itself. As far as the analyzer, I have used just about all of them. They all work great, this just happens to be the ones I am using now.
I see your Bauer Junior II compressor with electric drive. 😀 I have the petrol version and it was honestly one of the best decisions I made for my dive gear. Great vid thanks for sharing.
🤙
Cheers, #SeattleRingHunter
Glad you liked the video Seattle Ring Hunter.
Interesting. Good video!
Thank You Marilu Carvallo, glad you liked it.
Hi and thanks for all your videos I like them a lot.
What diameter and length is the pipe in your Nitrox stick?
What size are the wiffle balls and how many do you have in there?
If you come over to Iceland contact me and I can help you find the best spots for diving over here :)
Hello Julius Albertsson, send me an email saying hello, and I can send you some plans on how to build your own Nitrox Stick. lakehickoryscuba@gmail.com
"Eggs -specially." lol. Thanks for the video.
You're very welcome Joe Diver.
great vid thanks Brian
You're welcome b st john.
Thank you
You are very welcome @kennonhaneline9313
Don’t crack the valve with the meter on it, if you open it too much you might break the sensor
Thankfully FlyingFIN99, we have not had any issues with it.
Interesting, thanks!
You're welcome Donovan C. Young, glad you liked the video.
Geez you are doing it all wrong, everyone knows you use BLUE masking tape. LOL
One danger of a cold cold fill is that the pressure can shoot up if the water is warmer. I remember a cold day (well for Florida at 60 degrees) I setup my tanks, and put them in the spring water (at 72 degrees) when I went to put them on they went up another 250psi.
Thankfully Charle's Law plays a big role in the matter. For every 1 degree temperature change, your PSI will either raise or lower 5 psi. With this being said, most valves are rated to 5000 psi, as is the test pressure of most standard 3000 psi cylinders. So the likelihood of a cylinder being jeopardized by an over fill due to heating up, is highly unlikely.
Here in California a tank can get pretty hot sitting in a car but burst disks are rated for at least 25% over working pressure. I've had bad tank valve o-rings go but never a burst disk.