I've made my final primal - Light just in time for GW. I don't use Efes (have only 1) but I'm fan of Lu Woh fists and crit double Zeus. It has a lot of HP and nice dmg from Nehan harps :) BTW. Sandalphon 3rd skill's cooldown is 6 turns before first use (not 12). I tested it and there is a passive that reduces cd by 1 turn if you have effect that restores HP every turn (his ougi allows him to have Revitalize on him and team all the time). It's kinda misleading in wiki but I tested it.
Personally, Vira like.. the MVP on the last 2 light adv. GW for me. Just because she's super tanky, combined with Makura and whoever she swap with, Vira might as well manage to cover the double strike buff till the end of run. Now I kind of want to ramble as well about whos the best chara to swap when using Makura... Last GW I used V.Aglo since dude can generate crest from backline and when Makura baton pass to him, he might have about 2-3 crest and with that he might cast veil as well as other skill dmg. But now I have Cosmos, Sandy and Khumbira. With Cosmso I feel like her 3rd Might help with keeping the Makura double strike buff since she got unchallange(?) and might frequently use it due to double strike and CA reactivation. Sandy kind of the same since dude got echo buff thing going on and when the 3rd is up got CA reactivation as well and when the 1st reset while 3rd active he can grant dodge all to everyone, also he boost magna/primal skill. With Khumbira.. well she doesn't particualary need the double strike I think, but since she got tanking role, the heal/skill reset if enter dying state buff from Makura might be beneficial to Khumbira and her 4th which cause buttloads of damage. Or maybe Lucio IG, hopefully the FLB is great. Oh yeah also, I think you were talking about bringing Borger to front in the video yeah? I supposed there's no Skyfall but do you think his capping of dark damage taken is still good for GW or we can let him go? Edit: Let him go from the backline I mean
Really just depends what the boss does, if it repeatedly hits you with super high damaging hits you may want to keep him backline but if he's front he could sub for those hits or if the boss doesn't repeatedly do high damaging hits then you can probably drop him
Fun fact about M3, the passive the Magna summons got is "10% boost to [Element] allies' Normal ATK and DEF" which does actually stack with the Primal passive as they're different modifiers. Additionally it also provides Def which can be valuable in difficult content(Though I doubt it'll ever be worth including over better options), I wonder if that is worth slotting in these setups over someone like Artemis(if you're not calling her in the setup described). So maybe Primal players will have to farm M3 too just for the passive in completely optimal setups farm setups Additional speculation, it might be better in some situations to run 3 exalto(90%) + 1 Primarch(20%) + 1 sided(170%) and open the summon slot for that M3 summon passive instead of a sub ally?
Yeah not too sure about the magna summons in primal, the defense is nice but it's only 10% so idk if you'd ever use that over just using another summon. Especially in primal which has more defensive options in their grid in general The attack is also only 10% but maybe if you were using main primal and then you put it as a sub summon to go up to 40% maybe? But idk maybe if you needed the summon call for something the extra attack and defense might be a good bonus but it's hard for me to see a place where I'd use them over another summon in primal
I have been running around with the 280% ougi amp key and it is incredibly fucking fun and funny! I even went the extra step and I am running CB key on my 250 Opus and seeing Chain Bursts land between 10-12m damage is a feeling, so is 5.4m FCs and of course the ougi damage is good. It is both meme and legit, legit in having a 3 turn rotation for mins in Agastia as well as blowing up that raid in general and I have been getting amazing results when fighting faa0 (BUT I always have to mention I am running Futsu tormentor in there so I am on some bullshit anyway) 10/10 would recommend if you want to **feel** something in endgame stuffs (Hex/Faa0) but also be productive
I fell for it haha. Also yeah I just finished bricking and stoning and I grabbed Ura and i was having the same issue. Grids are getting very tight for space! Im not sure what will be optimal for alot of runs but I like having so many options so in the end Im very happy with it. Good luck to both of us in gw.
Also I haven't decided if I want to switch to NA pendulum been using skill damage this whole time and I prolly need a bit before I can tackle faa so Im curious what you think.
Yeah I feel like they're tight in a good way I like playing around with different weapons to min max setups, it's just the fact that you need everything to do that lol
@@TempestDacine You mean for the 3rd key? I do still think it's good but maybe just wait until gw and see if you need it if you're strapped on feathers. But like I said in the video I think it's just the best general use one especially if you can hit it single sided. Most comps get a lot of benefit out of the na damage amp and the 25% TA is ridiculously good I honestly still don't know why that's only on this key and not the other two
Hey man, I am looking to get into subaha, hexa, and Faa. I have 2 yuni harps, 2 nehan harps, 2 ivory arks, and 3 edens all uncapped (plus a certificus and a sacred standard from back in the day) I have three Impetuous fury and 3 efes now as well, but all at 0*. Not wanting to waste resources, do you have any pointers/example grids to go for? I hear what you are saying about resonators potentially being on the way out, but most of the setups I see for the high end stuff still include 2/3 of them and I am not sure if that is an artifact of them being from before Efes or because they are really the way to go. Thank you for your help!
I recommend looking at this channel as they have some good HL light content th-cam.com/video/o8AKpxPxznc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hG_T9VyfoZU3RzUe. I feel like in general though for efes you 2 is the minimum anyway so 2 should be fine to invest in it's whether or not you want to go for 3. I have another video where I talked about this as well th-cam.com/video/-cqy89XKO84/w-d-xo.html. As for lu woh I think bare minimum you can have 1, I also think 2 is relatively safe because as the first video showed it is usable for HL stuff although if you have a cosmos harp maxed I think that can be used and might be slightly better depending on the situation, but I wouldn't go for 3 unless there's no other way to do a setup and besides gw that just passed idk if that actually exists in any other content
@@terminusthrall I think having one is good to have but I don't think it's a requirement in any setups atm and I don't think you need more than one so unless you just have a burning desire to use it for something I'd just let it be something you uncap naturally through rolls as opposed to barring it
My favorite part of your rambling videos is when you "finish" a section then remember something and go back to it after the cut lol. The one at the end was funny. But thanks for the video. One question I have, is if I'm not using a transcendent Opus is it fine using only 2 exaltos? From what you said 3 exaltos are mainly relevant for one sided 250 Opus but I was wondering if you're losing out if using only 2 exaltos instead of 3
I do love my addendums, and yeah the actual opus itself doesn't matter it's specifically the new faa0 keys with the 280% requirements that matter. That being said yes it's still ok to use 2 exalto when not using the key as you're still getting the s1 that helps boost your grid and the crit amp from skill 3
As long as you have the primarch and the dragon summon (at flb) and primal summon at 230 you can run the 280 key single side with 2 exalto. 3 lowers those requirements a bit.
Any ideas what a comp to farm the Celestial Weapon might look like? After seeing the Sword goddamn everywhere ever since the last gw I wanna make sure I dont miss out again.
As far as I can tell it works on all crits, and I'm not 100% but the amp should work in the same way normal amp works where it's a % of what you hit added onto your final number and both amps should work together
noticed you were still using the primarch harp, is that just for the harp voltage synergy and HP for imperious? does that really edge out the extra ampt and cap ups from an ultima?
I always appreciate your videos and your insight. However I somehow feel conflicted about the high-end grids You are right about everything you said, but sometimes people just dont have all those weapons. Because even if you only have 1 primal grid and want to fully commit into it (like as 150% investment). I often feel as if GBF is a better game if you don’t try to min max it. NOT minmaxing saves you a lot of money and worrying about dama bars (which are limited as well…unless you whale and trade for lots and lots of moons). Personally, I have 3 Efes but that was because of pure luck. I would never spark 2 in addition to a F2P anniv spark. I have a really really good job and I could but I simply refuse to do it. That’s why I think you should orientate yourself towards the fully optimized grids without never expecting to get that grid 100% the same.
I mean tbh I think having both types of players is pretty par for the course and needed. People who hyper invest are the ones who are able to go out and then test what the maximum is for those eles and then people can work backwards off that as a guideline on trying to optimize as best they can with what they have, also with this being a gacha game someone has to keep the lights on for it or else the game will die 😂 But at the same time I do think it's important for there to be people who acknowledge that you not only don't need to min max but it can also be incredibly viable at least in this game and cost effective as you said when it comes to irl money. I also think it helps that there are people on this side of the spectrum as well because they can help people see things that us whales don't because I know for me personally there have been many times where I straight up don't know off the cuff how to operate something that's not just max level because I never use it but then a crew mate who has already gone through the process of using a less min max setup can be the one to step in instead to help with that issue, and vice versa if someone is trying to get into the more min maxy side, again, it's good to have those people who have already been there so people aren't wasting money and bars on stuff that's not even optimal because they're just throwing things at the wall. So I think having both sides creates a relatively healthier game
@@Ajt500 oh yeah, absolutely. Agreed. Without the people pushing the meta forward, we wouldn’t have the references of what is optimal. At the same time, other non minmaxing players can venture into this theoretically optimal grids and test their boundaries of what is still possible with how much derivation from the optimal grid. That wasn’t to blame people that spend money to go for the optimal stuff. And as I said, i agree with all of your info in the video. Its a great source of information and ingame content. Thank you for that once again.
Light GW will forever be my bane just because I dont have the necessary characters I'll be doing 000 OTK EX+, and FA 1T NM95, but I dont think I can do Soldier or RB for NM100 and above just because not having H. Flo, it sucks.
kinda Niche, but MA on Io staff is nice to help 0tk set up that needs GTA, also what made lunalu good was the update to let 0 turn cd skills activate on FA
Iirc Yurius also has a clear which autocasts which is kind of big given the propensity to spam debuffs as well as the boss buffing themselves. Esp since they might rely on multihits or debuffs as a way to slow players down since single big hit nukes will be capped by borger
@@qwoz2327 A lot of people have said this but I feel like for the most part they've done a decent job of implementing exaltos and making them not only useful in most situations but also playing towards how the element they're in plays in general so I have faith that it'll be useful in general and not super specific like that especially since hrunting is the biggest part of the ele I feel like something will play into that playstyle. But hey what do I know maybe they just screw us
Ayooo, been watching your vids for some time and only now I realize we're on the same crew lmao good content man One weapon I didn't see you talk about was the exo fist. You think it will get any use for people without ura (me lol)? I guess there's too many unknowns yet in terms of setups, but what do you think?
Wait for real lol??? Thanks for the support 🤣. As for the fist honestly I have not used it at all and forgot it existed so I'm really not sure. Maybe it'll see some use in replicating ura burst setups but I feel like people without ura are probably going to aim for some kind of soldier setup with the m3 gun, and I'm not sure how useful it is in full auto
@@ReynardNathaniel Just too many moons, I'd rather use those on an Illustrious Weapon or even hoard a sierotix to save a spark as opposed to using that many on globes, you can also suptix and classic draw primals and you can stone the dupes then reduce to get the anima. So jist feels like a waste of resources for minimal gain over just using a friend summon if you need that primal
i think people already know triple exalto is good but it really isn't worth the investment unless you happen to have a 3rd one and bunch of extra gold bars to blow - i think 3rd resonators is about as niche as 3rd exalto imo (pretty much all eles still use 3 resonators to varying degrees of niche, some more than others)
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The Yapness Monster w/ another 10/10 yap
bricks and sands. the hamster wheel continues
I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.
I've made my final primal - Light just in time for GW. I don't use Efes (have only 1) but I'm fan of Lu Woh fists and crit double Zeus. It has a lot of HP and nice dmg from Nehan harps :)
BTW. Sandalphon 3rd skill's cooldown is 6 turns before first use (not 12). I tested it and there is a passive that reduces cd by 1 turn if you have effect that restores HP every turn (his ougi allows him to have Revitalize on him and team all the time). It's kinda misleading in wiki but I tested it.
Personally, Vira like.. the MVP on the last 2 light adv. GW for me.
Just because she's super tanky, combined with Makura and whoever she swap with, Vira might as well manage to cover the double strike buff till the end of run.
Now I kind of want to ramble as well about whos the best chara to swap when using Makura...
Last GW I used V.Aglo since dude can generate crest from backline and when Makura baton pass to him, he might have about 2-3 crest and with that he might cast veil as well as other skill dmg.
But now I have Cosmos, Sandy and Khumbira.
With Cosmso I feel like her 3rd Might help with keeping the Makura double strike buff since she got unchallange(?) and might frequently use it due to double strike and CA reactivation.
Sandy kind of the same since dude got echo buff thing going on and when the 3rd is up got CA reactivation as well and when the 1st reset while 3rd active he can grant dodge all to everyone, also he boost magna/primal skill.
With Khumbira.. well she doesn't particualary need the double strike I think, but since she got tanking role, the heal/skill reset if enter dying state buff from Makura might be beneficial to Khumbira and her 4th which cause buttloads of damage.
Or maybe Lucio IG, hopefully the FLB is great.
Oh yeah also, I think you were talking about bringing Borger to front in the video yeah?
I supposed there's no Skyfall but do you think his capping of dark damage taken is still good for GW or we can let him go?
Edit:
Let him go from the backline I mean
Really just depends what the boss does, if it repeatedly hits you with super high damaging hits you may want to keep him backline but if he's front he could sub for those hits or if the boss doesn't repeatedly do high damaging hits then you can probably drop him
Fun fact about M3, the passive the Magna summons got is "10% boost to [Element] allies' Normal ATK and DEF" which does actually stack with the Primal passive as they're different modifiers. Additionally it also provides Def which can be valuable in difficult content(Though I doubt it'll ever be worth including over better options), I wonder if that is worth slotting in these setups over someone like Artemis(if you're not calling her in the setup described).
So maybe Primal players will have to farm M3 too just for the passive in completely optimal setups farm setups
Additional speculation, it might be better in some situations to run 3 exalto(90%) + 1 Primarch(20%) + 1 sided(170%) and open the summon slot for that M3 summon passive instead of a sub ally?
Yeah not too sure about the magna summons in primal, the defense is nice but it's only 10% so idk if you'd ever use that over just using another summon. Especially in primal which has more defensive options in their grid in general
The attack is also only 10% but maybe if you were using main primal and then you put it as a sub summon to go up to 40% maybe? But idk maybe if you needed the summon call for something the extra attack and defense might be a good bonus but it's hard for me to see a place where I'd use them over another summon in primal
When primal was in a weird place, magna Song dominated the GW FA, so it'd be interesting to see if something would change this GW
LMAO my brain categorized April Fools as yesterday, since that's when it started for GBF and the wiki, so you actually got me super hard there lmfao
I have been running around with the 280% ougi amp key and it is incredibly fucking fun and funny! I even went the extra step and I am running CB key on my 250 Opus and seeing Chain Bursts land between 10-12m damage is a feeling, so is 5.4m FCs and of course the ougi damage is good. It is both meme and legit, legit in having a 3 turn rotation for mins in Agastia as well as blowing up that raid in general and I have been getting amazing results when fighting faa0 (BUT I always have to mention I am running Futsu tormentor in there so I am on some bullshit anyway)
10/10 would recommend if you want to **feel** something in endgame stuffs (Hex/Faa0) but also be productive
I fell for it haha.
Also yeah I just finished bricking and stoning and I grabbed Ura and i was having the same issue. Grids are getting very tight for space! Im not sure what will be optimal for alot of runs but I like having so many options so in the end Im very happy with it. Good luck to both of us in gw.
Also I haven't decided if I want to switch to NA pendulum been using skill damage this whole time and I prolly need a bit before I can tackle faa so Im curious what you think.
Yeah I feel like they're tight in a good way I like playing around with different weapons to min max setups, it's just the fact that you need everything to do that lol
@@TempestDacine You mean for the 3rd key? I do still think it's good but maybe just wait until gw and see if you need it if you're strapped on feathers. But like I said in the video I think it's just the best general use one especially if you can hit it single sided. Most comps get a lot of benefit out of the na damage amp and the 25% TA is ridiculously good I honestly still don't know why that's only on this key and not the other two
Yeah I don't have feathers yet I picked skill cuz skill memes and being applicable for most content lol.
Live for these rambles 👌🏿
Hey man, I am looking to get into subaha, hexa, and Faa. I have 2 yuni harps, 2 nehan harps, 2 ivory arks, and 3 edens all uncapped (plus a certificus and a sacred standard from back in the day) I have three Impetuous fury and 3 efes now as well, but all at 0*. Not wanting to waste resources, do you have any pointers/example grids to go for? I hear what you are saying about resonators potentially being on the way out, but most of the setups I see for the high end stuff still include 2/3 of them and I am not sure if that is an artifact of them being from before Efes or because they are really the way to go.
Thank you for your help!
I recommend looking at this channel as they have some good HL light content th-cam.com/video/o8AKpxPxznc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hG_T9VyfoZU3RzUe. I feel like in general though for efes you 2 is the minimum anyway so 2 should be fine to invest in it's whether or not you want to go for 3. I have another video where I talked about this as well th-cam.com/video/-cqy89XKO84/w-d-xo.html. As for lu woh I think bare minimum you can have 1, I also think 2 is relatively safe because as the first video showed it is usable for HL stuff although if you have a cosmos harp maxed I think that can be used and might be slightly better depending on the situation, but I wouldn't go for 3 unless there's no other way to do a setup and besides gw that just passed idk if that actually exists in any other content
@@Ajt500 Thanks man! Do you think the cosmo harp is a safe uncap as well, or skip if I am going for 2 lu woh?
@@terminusthrall I think having one is good to have but I don't think it's a requirement in any setups atm and I don't think you need more than one so unless you just have a burning desire to use it for something I'd just let it be something you uncap naturally through rolls as opposed to barring it
My favorite part of your rambling videos is when you "finish" a section then remember something and go back to it after the cut lol. The one at the end was funny.
But thanks for the video. One question I have, is if I'm not using a transcendent Opus is it fine using only 2 exaltos? From what you said 3 exaltos are mainly relevant for one sided 250 Opus but I was wondering if you're losing out if using only 2 exaltos instead of 3
I do love my addendums, and yeah the actual opus itself doesn't matter it's specifically the new faa0 keys with the 280% requirements that matter. That being said yes it's still ok to use 2 exalto when not using the key as you're still getting the s1 that helps boost your grid and the crit amp from skill 3
As long as you have the primarch and the dragon summon (at flb) and primal summon at 230 you can run the 280 key single side with 2 exalto.
3 lowers those requirements a bit.
my inability to get horus right before light gw has tanked motivation for even attempting to play it, but might as well put this grid to work
Any ideas what a comp to farm the Celestial Weapon might look like? After seeing the Sword goddamn everywhere ever since the last gw I wanna make sure I dont miss out again.
Not entirely sure yet but you'll just want to get whatever can kill nightmare 90 as fast as possible with as high of drop rate as possible
I am mega suffering i have issues with farming light
How the amplified crit of efes works? Is it applied to all type of critical dmg? What happened if normal amp. and critical amp. co-exist?
As far as I can tell it works on all crits, and I'm not 100% but the amp should work in the same way normal amp works where it's a % of what you hit added onto your final number and both amps should work together
I have limited bricks, my main hand is ura, which do you suggest I uncap? 2efes or 2 luwohfist?
Probably 2 efes
Not gonna lie you had me at the first half
noticed you were still using the primarch harp, is that just for the harp voltage synergy and HP for imperious? does that really edge out the extra ampt and cap ups from an ultima?
Not too sure tbh, I just do it in light sometimes because a lot of characters don't share specialties
@Ajt500 ive been having that issue too lol i still use the ultima for the cap up and amp but I kinda get wanting to use the seraphics's majesty
Feels good to be a middling magna player
Primal seems WAYY too stressful
thanks for the vids
good luck in your irl
It was a joke 😭
I always appreciate your videos and your insight.
However I somehow feel conflicted about the high-end grids
You are right about everything you said, but sometimes people just dont have all those weapons. Because even if you only have 1 primal grid and want to fully commit into it (like as 150% investment).
I often feel as if GBF is a better game if you don’t try to min max it. NOT minmaxing saves you a lot of money and worrying about dama bars (which are limited as well…unless you whale and trade for lots and lots of moons).
Personally, I have 3 Efes but that was because of pure luck. I would never spark 2 in addition to a F2P anniv spark. I have a really really good job and I could but I simply refuse to do it.
That’s why I think you should orientate yourself towards the fully optimized grids without never expecting to get that grid 100% the same.
I mean tbh I think having both types of players is pretty par for the course and needed. People who hyper invest are the ones who are able to go out and then test what the maximum is for those eles and then people can work backwards off that as a guideline on trying to optimize as best they can with what they have, also with this being a gacha game someone has to keep the lights on for it or else the game will die 😂
But at the same time I do think it's important for there to be people who acknowledge that you not only don't need to min max but it can also be incredibly viable at least in this game and cost effective as you said when it comes to irl money. I also think it helps that there are people on this side of the spectrum as well because they can help people see things that us whales don't because I know for me personally there have been many times where I straight up don't know off the cuff how to operate something that's not just max level because I never use it but then a crew mate who has already gone through the process of using a less min max setup can be the one to step in instead to help with that issue, and vice versa if someone is trying to get into the more min maxy side, again, it's good to have those people who have already been there so people aren't wasting money and bars on stuff that's not even optimal because they're just throwing things at the wall.
So I think having both sides creates a relatively healthier game
@@Ajt500 oh yeah, absolutely. Agreed. Without the people pushing the meta forward, we wouldn’t have the references of what is optimal. At the same time, other non minmaxing players can venture into this theoretically optimal grids and test their boundaries of what is still possible with how much derivation from the optimal grid.
That wasn’t to blame people that spend money to go for the optimal stuff.
And as I said, i agree with all of your info in the video. Its a great source of information and ingame content.
Thank you for that once again.
Light GW will forever be my bane just because I dont have the necessary characters
I'll be doing 000 OTK EX+, and FA 1T NM95, but I dont think I can do Soldier or RB for NM100 and above just because not having H. Flo, it sucks.
kinda Niche, but MA on Io staff is nice to help 0tk set up that needs GTA, also what made lunalu good was the update to let 0 turn cd skills activate on FA
Surprised I didn't hear any honorable mentions to christmas illnot. I might farm out an atk concordia for this.
I talked a bit about her at 31:50
@@Ajt500 oof. How'd I miss.
Iirc Yurius also has a clear which autocasts which is kind of big given the propensity to spam debuffs as well as the boss buffing themselves. Esp since they might rely on multihits or debuffs as a way to slow players down since single big hit nukes will be capped by borger
i hope you fix that worklife balance and hopefully get back to youtube eventually, i'll be here through the wait !
It was a joke but ty 😭
also call me insane but im making the call that the dirt exalto will somehow be ougi centric, watch it have glory + ca amp
@@qwoz2327 A lot of people have said this but I feel like for the most part they've done a decent job of implementing exaltos and making them not only useful in most situations but also playing towards how the element they're in plays in general so I have faith that it'll be useful in general and not super specific like that especially since hrunting is the biggest part of the ele I feel like something will play into that playstyle. But hey what do I know maybe they just screw us
Ayooo, been watching your vids for some time and only now I realize we're on the same crew lmao good content man
One weapon I didn't see you talk about was the exo fist. You think it will get any use for people without ura (me lol)? I guess there's too many unknowns yet in terms of setups, but what do you think?
Wait for real lol??? Thanks for the support 🤣.
As for the fist honestly I have not used it at all and forgot it existed so I'm really not sure. Maybe it'll see some use in replicating ura burst setups but I feel like people without ura are probably going to aim for some kind of soldier setup with the m3 gun, and I'm not sure how useful it is in full auto
Depends alot on comp and raid but I think its very good for monk fa runs adding even more damage to popular skill damage charas.
Question. Do u think it's worth it to spend 150 moons to make 250 primal?
No
@@Ajt500 would u mind to elaborate why?
Thank u
@@ReynardNathaniel Just too many moons, I'd rather use those on an Illustrious Weapon or even hoard a sierotix to save a spark as opposed to using that many on globes, you can also suptix and classic draw primals and you can stone the dupes then reduce to get the anima. So jist feels like a waste of resources for minimal gain over just using a friend summon if you need that primal
@@Ajt500 so even primal lv 200 is fine with the current state of GBF?
@@ReynardNathaniel If the alternative is using 150 gold moons then yeah I'd make it work lol
Yay more rambling
Using only 1 imperious fury too 😱
New ajt vid let's gooo
i think people already know triple exalto is good but it really isn't worth the investment unless you happen to have a 3rd one and bunch of extra gold bars to blow - i think 3rd resonators is about as niche as 3rd exalto imo (pretty much all eles still use 3 resonators to varying degrees of niche, some more than others)