Been working building a solar farm this summer. Used this set to knock out approx 3600 holes. It's worth every penny if you need it often. Luckily my company bought it for us.
Yeah some things from harbor freights are worth it. I would strongly discourage getting the hole saws though if you plan on going through any sort of metal
@@ThegratefulC what's your problem? Do you think I am lying? I used it many of times mostly knocking holes in 1200 amp CT cabinets. Use to tear up my hole saws fast and they where Milwaukee. Enjoy your TRUCK
I truly appreciate hand cranking when coming through the ranks iny early days. And feel blessed to have earned the hydraulic systems in my later years. Newbies want instant gratification. Only the mechanic back in the 80's had the cordless screw gun. That old Makita with the long battery. It's 35 years later for me. I'm grateful for this experience in the field.
A new truck costs closer to $65,000-$150,000 in the USA today. That old $2,500 truck is less complicated and less expensive all around. Ideally a Toyota, Honda, or old Mazda truck.
yep i get his point but it appears he has not purchased a new truck for a long long time. They were not 25,000 twenty years ago lol Maybe electricians get a huge discounts on bells and whistles 😁🤣😂
@@DrippiBean Yes i believe we all got his point. But i also believe if one is going to compare something old to something new, at least get it in the ballpark lol.
I still have some tools new in the package as well. My wife gets angry when she sees that. But I'd rather have a tool and not need it, then have a day when I actually NEED a tool to finish a task and I don't have it. I'd prefer to stay prepared for almost any scenario. I have tools that I've owned for years and only used once.
If you have a job that is going to require punching 100 KOs or even 25 KOs or more you buy the $2k KO set and charge it to the job. Add that cost right into that estimate either as the tool purchase or spread out that cost into other parts of the job cost. I rarely buy any tools with my own money. Always purchase tools with materials for a job. That's one of the perks of being the owner and working for yourself.
Im just over here wondering where all the 25k NEW trucks are hiding. 😂 Most 4-5 year old trucks are still more than 25k. I have a 20yr old truck that i take good care of. Ive had the transmission rebuilt a few years back, and a new engine last year. Im perfectly fine with my 20yr old truck after seeing what new vehicles cost these days. Now i just need some new tunes and a set of Katzkin leater seat covers and I'll REALLY be happy with my 20year old truck! 👍
I was the opposite I worked for a big company in the beginning of my apprentice ship. Had all these nice new tools all the Milwaukee anything and everything they had out. Went to a smaller company and started from the bottom doing everything by hand😂😂
I was the same. I started as a driver and then the warehouse foreman for what was the biggest elect contractor on the West Coast and we also had a full time tool repair man who I grew up with and we were only 20 yrs old and we would fix tools from screwguns to ramset guns and we both went to Greenlee repair school so we worked on hydraulic table benders and KO sets and we fixed rotohammers you name a tool used in commercial industrial electrical we knew how to fix and use it. Then I went to work as an apprentice for a small 5 man old school family shop. Amazing electricians with great work but nothing modern as far as tools. But it's good to know that you can do almost any job with Linemans, a screwdriver, strippers and a Wiggy tester. But when I became a journeyman I went back to working for the biggest and best companies and you walk on any job that first day they handed you a care package with leather and cotton gloves, whole saws and arbors may tip hex drivers ¼ - 3/8, Philips and straight may tips for your drill, safety glasses, an induction tester, a step bit, forehead liners for your hardhat and brand new hardhat if you needed one, there was a gangbox with blades for your razor knife, hacksaw blades, boxes of brand new hole saws and brand new arbors, boxes of sharpies, pencils, earplugs, you could get fingerless leather gloves or fingered or with just thumb and index and middle fingers uncovered, boxes of drill bits, first aid kits that had drugs in them. In those days we, the crew, would get to scrap our copper and use the money by giving the apprentice a couple hundred dollars and Fridays were long lunch beer and pizza or Mexican or whatever. And come back in time to clean up and go home. I have been working for myself for 13 years now after 16 as a union journeyman and over the years I've collected, acquired, bought almost everything I needed to start my business. I have tool bags full of hole saws and arbors and boxes of sawzall and hacksaw blades and may tips and I get to know salesmen at the supply houses and some are shady making extra money on the side giving deals on tools and expendables. I have doubles and triples of all hand tools, some not even used. I've got a couple hundred feet of 6/4 temp cords and two distribution boxes, at least 1k feet of 20 amp twist Loc extension cords, I've got everything except power benders.
Ibosad on Amazon is $140 for a hydraulic up to 2”- it stays in my pack out base at all times with my core tools. Compact and light enough to always keep close. Won’t knock out an ATS or switchgear to 4” or anything but does 98% of what I work with day to day.
I have a hydraulic set that out performs the Milwaukee battery powered 10 ton set. Would still love to have that set, but I don't have the funds for it. The hydraulic isn't as fast, but when it comes to the thicker metals it actually does a better job because the tonnage on it is higher. And it only cost me about $400. My boss liked it so much that he bought himself the same set. He was more than impressed with it.
Good to know I'm not the only one. Whatever I'm traveling in, as long as it reliably goes where i ask it to, I don't care what it looks like. Also, nice trucks will burden you for 75,000 bucks.
Used several Greenlee hydralic sets for over 40 years for KO'S up to 4". Think the battery operated KO tools especially with the swivel head is a game winner.
if you a contractor doing alot of service work from resi and commercial, a quality knockout set is a good investment. You will be glad you had it when you need it, and thats a return on your investment
I spent $350 on a new 15 ton hydraulic knockout set and it’s served me well. 1/2”-4”. Just keep the set lightly oiled to prevent rust and you’re good to go
Yep. That should tell you everything you need to know about that. Use your grandpa's rusty old hand cranked antique drill. Nobody would ever think twice about stealing that thing! 😉
I actually like my old truck. Less to go wrong, easier to fix, and if the road is getting washed out, I can go right up against tree limbs and scratch the hell out of it. In regards to that tool, I'm a cheap bastard. But, if I'm up to the maximum amount of hours I want to work a week (whether that's 20 or 120), and the tool saves time, all it has to do is save enough hours over the life of the tool to more than pay for itself, and it makes logical sense to buy. Farming doesn't, so I don't buy tools like this, only what I need to run. :D
I won’t use a hydraulic after one failed. Created a huge mess resulting in damage costing way more than a nice knock out set. Plus they are soooo much nicer to work with!
Thankfully it was just into an empty panel so no real damage done but I had a Milwaukee KO leak hydraulic fluid everywhere during a routine 2” punch. I’ve also seen two different ones fail the same way when they couldn’t be released afterwards and had to be mechanically reset by taking the driver apart. Great tool, love it but the only money that’s going towards one of those is the companies.
You make your money back quickly either good tools, I have the same as electrician, I spend 2500 euros on a set and it made life so much easier that I didn’t regret it for a second.
You DEFINITELY want to own a knockout set. Never look back afterward. I have the $50-$100 Amazon hydraulic. It is HEAVY and CLUNKY but it works like butter. I finally learned to "step" the knockout. First one makes the hole for the larger shaft, second one does the big hole. * Factory knockout hole will fit the smaller shaft * Choose the knockout that's perfect for the bigger shaft * Do the big knockout Doesn't take any drilling at all and you can offset the hole to just the spot where you want it. I knock out plastic, nylon, aluminum, thin sheet metal, thick sheet metal, polypropylene, all sorts of stuff. Makes an absolutely perfect hole every single time with no effort and it seems to never wear out. Hole saws suck
I still use the ratchet I don't use it enough to warrant a purchase but fr I have every hole maker I can in order to not pull out the little green tool box
For 1 1/2" and larger if you're punching a ton of holes you'll get you r money back. Tools are an investment if they save wear on the body and time. Trade offs my friends
it's also how fast you want to get the job done because if you can get the job done correctly and quickly then you can do more work and then that means more money
I don't know I had an issue with my car so I had to go into the shop I asked for something small at the rental place they gave me a Ford F150 land yacht it wouldn't fit in my driveway it wouldn't fit in the driveway where I work it wouldn't fit in anybody else's driveway and it barely fit down the road. Plus it's taking me about two weeks to unlearn how to drive that thing and actually drive my van again. And the worst part it only had Bluetooth can't hook up a cassette recorder over Bluetooth! Have to use Bluetooth with the phone but then you're downloading all your contacts into a vehicle you don't have control over and it's probably gonna suck out to Ford. I can't wait for the time with car stereos that's gonna happen like copiers you know those things just archive everything you copy nowadays because they're not securely erasing the hard drive. Why can't we have auxiliary port on every vehicle I know phones don't have them anymore but there's a whole lot of other devices that do.
It's working smart, faster and more efficiently, not working harder. The more jobs you get done(as an owner/operator) the more you make because you've now opened more room up on your schedule.
Same thing I said. My boss had us on a 800 am service making 4 in holes with a nasty ass KO set..... smh. I said f that did evething we could that day with out making a knockout, called Grainger and they had that set for me 10am the next morning. $1900 on my Amex. BEST PURCHASE OF THAT YEAR.
It's a battery powered hydraulic knockout set. You drill a pilot hole in an enclosure and can knock any trade size hole through sheet steel. Easier than a hole saw especially over 1" fittings.
@@elijahdement9890 ahhh gotcha. I was thinking it did something with the knockouts already in boxes which seemed very overkill. It creates those if they're not there.
It's not worth 2 grand but it make the job easier and why do people use new compared to old $2000 and it will still break down on you and won't be a DIY fix
Those who can't appreciate are the ones who never had to put muscle into popping holes on a giant J box! Lol trust me, I felt the same way til someone put that joint on my job! Lmao then I was WILLINGLY punching holes! Lol try it and see
I love your material, been watching you since votech learning all I can. So teach me, please, where are these $25,000 new trucks?
😂😂😂
In the 1990s
$25k New (to you) truck
That classic $2,500 truck is a $30k truck or more if it's all original & near mint condition. (After market bluetooth is optional).
Been working building a solar farm this summer. Used this set to knock out approx 3600 holes. It's worth every penny if you need it often. Luckily my company bought it for us.
A really nice hydraulic set from Harbor freight believe it or not for 100 bucks. Had it for 2 1/2 years use it often
Yeah I don’t agree with his mindset at all lol and I love my 98 Silverado, got BT and a 12” sub too lol
Can’t beat that
Yeah some things from harbor freights are worth it. I would strongly discourage getting the hole saws though if you plan on going through any sort of metal
@@ThegratefulC what's your problem? Do you think I am lying? I used it many of times mostly knocking holes in 1200 amp CT cabinets. Use to tear up my hole saws fast and they where Milwaukee. Enjoy your TRUCK
@@jeffbell7309 I was talking about the video not you lol… 🤦♂️
I truly appreciate hand cranking when coming through the ranks iny early days. And feel blessed to have earned the hydraulic systems in my later years. Newbies want instant gratification. Only the mechanic back in the 80's had the cordless screw gun. That old Makita with the long battery. It's 35 years later for me.
I'm grateful for this experience in the field.
A new truck costs closer to $65,000-$150,000 in the USA today. That old $2,500 truck is less complicated and less expensive all around. Ideally a Toyota, Honda, or old Mazda truck.
yep i get his point but it appears he has not purchased a new truck for a long long time. They were not 25,000 twenty years ago lol Maybe electricians get a huge discounts on bells and whistles 😁🤣😂
what kind of truck and how much it actually costs is a moot point. cheap truck, less quality of life, expensive truck, more quality of life
@@DrippiBean Yes i believe we all got his point. But i also believe if one is going to compare something old to something new, at least get it in the ballpark lol.
My new 2022 Maverick cost me $24k out the door
Old truck is more worth it at this point probably.
If you need it, a tool doesn’t cost money.
It makes money.
That said, I have a bazillion tools I don’t need. Some are still in the plastic. :)
Mind donating them to a good cause (my tool bag) ?
- humble apprentice
@@nicocaffarilla8556 I’m gonna use em someday. 😂😂😂
I still have some tools new in the package as well. My wife gets angry when she sees that. But I'd rather have a tool and not need it, then have a day when I actually NEED a tool to finish a task and I don't have it. I'd prefer to stay prepared for almost any scenario. I have tools that I've owned for years and only used once.
I got my 40 year old Greenlee 4 point hydraulic unit that will KO up to 4" and it still does what I need it to do.
That Milwaukee knockout set is my absolute favorite tool. Love that thing.
I saw you and your team at Neca on Sunday at the San Diego convention center. very cool Bro. over by Schneider electric.
There is no new $25k trucks out there dude.....
Id day get a slug buster greenlee kit, can get them for around 50-80 bucks and you just gotta get a 1” socket and it works like a charm
I was just about to say that.
Works like a charm. But hurts your ears if you are not wearing ear protection.
@@meganandmichaelrodriguez8874 its a manual ko set, it makes little to no noise at all
If you have a job that is going to require punching 100 KOs or even 25 KOs or more you buy the $2k KO set and charge it to the job. Add that cost right into that estimate either as the tool purchase or spread out that cost into other parts of the job cost.
I rarely buy any tools with my own money. Always purchase tools with materials for a job.
That's one of the perks of being the owner and working for yourself.
Im just over here wondering where all the 25k NEW trucks are hiding. 😂
Most 4-5 year old trucks are still more than 25k. I have a 20yr old truck that i take good care of. Ive had the transmission rebuilt a few years back, and a new engine last year. Im perfectly fine with my 20yr old truck after seeing what new vehicles cost these days. Now i just need some new tunes and a set of Katzkin leater seat covers and I'll REALLY be happy with my 20year old truck! 👍
$25,000 brand new truck? Tell me where I can get one of those. Even the Ford Maverick is higher than that now.
I don't know about easy, but tools make some jobs so nice. So nice...
I was the opposite I worked for a big company in the beginning of my apprentice ship. Had all these nice new tools all the Milwaukee anything and everything they had out. Went to a smaller company and started from the bottom doing everything by hand😂😂
I was the same. I started as a driver and then the warehouse foreman for what was the biggest elect contractor on the West Coast and we also had a full time tool repair man who I grew up with and we were only 20 yrs old and we would fix tools from screwguns to ramset guns and we both went to Greenlee repair school so we worked on hydraulic table benders and KO sets and we fixed rotohammers you name a tool used in commercial industrial electrical we knew how to fix and use it. Then I went to work as an apprentice for a small 5 man old school family shop. Amazing electricians with great work but nothing modern as far as tools. But it's good to know that you can do almost any job with Linemans, a screwdriver, strippers and a Wiggy tester.
But when I became a journeyman I went back to working for the biggest and best companies and you walk on any job that first day they handed you a care package with leather and cotton gloves, whole saws and arbors may tip hex drivers ¼ - 3/8, Philips and straight may tips for your drill, safety glasses, an induction tester, a step bit, forehead liners for your hardhat and brand new hardhat if you needed one, there was a gangbox with blades for your razor knife, hacksaw blades, boxes of brand new hole saws and brand new arbors, boxes of sharpies, pencils, earplugs, you could get fingerless leather gloves or fingered or with just thumb and index and middle fingers uncovered, boxes of drill bits, first aid kits that had drugs in them.
In those days we, the crew, would get to scrap our copper and use the money by giving the apprentice a couple hundred dollars and Fridays were long lunch beer and pizza or Mexican or whatever. And come back in time to clean up and go home.
I have been working for myself for 13 years now after 16 as a union journeyman and over the years I've collected, acquired, bought almost everything I needed to start my business.
I have tool bags full of hole saws and arbors and boxes of sawzall and hacksaw blades and may tips and I get to know salesmen at the supply houses and some are shady making extra money on the side giving deals on tools and expendables. I have doubles and triples of all hand tools, some not even used. I've got a couple hundred feet of 6/4 temp cords and two distribution boxes, at least 1k feet of 20 amp twist Loc extension cords, I've got everything except power benders.
Ibosad on Amazon is $140 for a hydraulic up to 2”- it stays in my pack out base at all times with my core tools. Compact and light enough to always keep close. Won’t knock out an ATS or switchgear to 4” or anything but does 98% of what I work with day to day.
I have a hydraulic set that out performs the Milwaukee battery powered 10 ton set. Would still love to have that set, but I don't have the funds for it. The hydraulic isn't as fast, but when it comes to the thicker metals it actually does a better job because the tonnage on it is higher. And it only cost me about $400. My boss liked it so much that he bought himself the same set. He was more than impressed with it.
I’ll raider have the $2500 truck, have you seen how the truck market is now days 😂😂😂
Good to know I'm not the only one. Whatever I'm traveling in, as long as it reliably goes where i ask it to, I don't care what it looks like. Also, nice trucks will burden you for 75,000 bucks.
Love the honesty
I love it. I agree with you.
Used several Greenlee hydralic sets for over 40 years for KO'S up to 4". Think the battery operated KO tools especially with the swivel head is a game winner.
if you a contractor doing alot of service work from resi and commercial, a quality knockout set is a good investment. You will be glad you had it when you need it, and thats a return on your investment
That truck was a classic
I spent $350 on a new 15 ton hydraulic knockout set and it’s served me well. 1/2”-4”. Just keep the set lightly oiled to prevent rust and you’re good to go
Yes it is. Makes life so much easier.
depnds if its your company and yoire runnign the work making the money then its worth it . If youre hourly then no dont buy this
@@mikesmoth-v4w If you are hourly it should be in the contractors shop tool bin.
If you start out you don't want expensive tools also they break into vans and steal your tools
Yep. That should tell you everything you need to know about that. Use your grandpa's rusty old hand cranked antique drill. Nobody would ever think twice about stealing that thing! 😉
“It depends how hard you wanna work” is the most electrician thing I’ve heard 😂
I agree with the point...but I will take the first truck any day
I actually like my old truck. Less to go wrong, easier to fix, and if the road is getting washed out, I can go right up against tree limbs and scratch the hell out of it. In regards to that tool, I'm a cheap bastard. But, if I'm up to the maximum amount of hours I want to work a week (whether that's 20 or 120), and the tool saves time, all it has to do is save enough hours over the life of the tool to more than pay for itself, and it makes logical sense to buy. Farming doesn't, so I don't buy tools like this, only what I need to run. :D
I won’t use a hydraulic after one failed. Created a huge mess resulting in damage costing way more than a nice knock out set. Plus they are soooo much nicer to work with!
Thankfully it was just into an empty panel so no real damage done but I had a Milwaukee KO leak hydraulic fluid everywhere during a routine 2” punch. I’ve also seen two different ones fail the same way when they couldn’t be released afterwards and had to be mechanically reset by taking the driver apart. Great tool, love it but the only money that’s going towards one of those is the companies.
You make your money back quickly either good tools, I have the same as electrician, I spend 2500 euros on a set and it made life so much easier that I didn’t regret it for a second.
You DEFINITELY want to own a knockout set. Never look back afterward. I have the $50-$100 Amazon hydraulic. It is HEAVY and CLUNKY but it works like butter.
I finally learned to "step" the knockout. First one makes the hole for the larger shaft, second one does the big hole.
* Factory knockout hole will fit the smaller shaft
* Choose the knockout that's perfect for the bigger shaft
* Do the big knockout
Doesn't take any drilling at all and you can offset the hole to just the spot where you want it.
I knock out plastic, nylon, aluminum, thin sheet metal, thick sheet metal, polypropylene, all sorts of stuff. Makes an absolutely perfect hole every single time with no effort and it seems to never wear out.
Hole saws suck
It’s necessary if that’s what the competition gas or if that is what the job demands.
I like my pos vehicles better because they're easier to work on without needing a nasa level computer system and no car payments😊
Worth Every Penny! Love mine
Can you use a impact with a socket on a hand ratcheting set or will it damage it?
Realistically $25k truck is a piece of crap
I still use the ratchet I don't use it enough to warrant a purchase but fr I have every hole maker I can in order to not pull out the little green tool box
For 1 1/2" and larger if you're punching a ton of holes you'll get you r money back. Tools are an investment if they save wear on the body and time. Trade offs my friends
Best investment i ever made as an electrician
it's also how fast you want to get the job done because if you can get the job done correctly and quickly then you can do more work and then that means more money
Where are you living that $25,000 buys a nice truck?
I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOUR AT !
My coworker still prefer using hole saws. I tell them that punches are better, but they think it’s too slow.
Looks like you guys only do residential.
@@alvilla701 I wish that was the case.
I drive a 93 f-350 idi and use an old hydraulic punch that was given to me.
Get a socket and an impact on your manual set that's all you need....
Hate to break it to you but that 60s C10 you put up as a 2500truck is actually a 25k truck. I'll take that over that POS F150 you showed next
3rd year apprentice here. I bought the 6 ton one for $1200. Everyone talks shit on me, then asks to use it over the company provided pos. Smh.
I don't know I had an issue with my car so I had to go into the shop I asked for something small at the rental place they gave me a Ford F150 land yacht it wouldn't fit in my driveway it wouldn't fit in the driveway where I work it wouldn't fit in anybody else's driveway and it barely fit down the road. Plus it's taking me about two weeks to unlearn how to drive that thing and actually drive my van again. And the worst part it only had Bluetooth can't hook up a cassette recorder over Bluetooth! Have to use Bluetooth with the phone but then you're downloading all your contacts into a vehicle you don't have control over and it's probably gonna suck out to Ford. I can't wait for the time with car stereos that's gonna happen like copiers you know those things just archive everything you copy nowadays because they're not securely erasing the hard drive. Why can't we have auxiliary port on every vehicle I know phones don't have them anymore but there's a whole lot of other devices that do.
Your company should provide one
It's working smart, faster and more efficiently, not working harder. The more jobs you get done(as an owner/operator) the more you make because you've now opened more room up on your schedule.
Way better and safer than drilling.
I’d rather drive around in the 2500 dollar truck considering both will make me the same amount of money while one saves me more.
When was the last time he bought a truck?
"It just depends how hard you want to work"
It's more I could just depends how much money you have.
As a rigger who's had to put the volume down on my phone 😂 i do not want to work either. Ever
I would take the old truck any day.
Is it neccassary..yes
Man come on bud lol it's absolutely necessary hahaha 😆 😂 🤣 👏
we dont get paid enough to buy one
Same thing I said. My boss had us on a 800 am service making 4 in holes with a nasty ass KO set..... smh. I said f that did evething we could that day with out making a knockout, called Grainger and they had that set for me 10am the next morning. $1900 on my Amex. BEST PURCHASE OF THAT YEAR.
$25,000 new truck? My brother in electrical you're stuck in the 2000's
The $25,000 truck IS the $2,500 truck now.
They want $75K for a new truck now.
If we could only figure out how to make the starter hole without blood, sweat, and tears.
What's this tool used for?
1966 f 1-00
It's a battery powered hydraulic knockout set. You drill a pilot hole in an enclosure and can knock any trade size hole through sheet steel. Easier than a hole saw especially over 1" fittings.
@@elijahdement9890 ahhh gotcha. I was thinking it did something with the knockouts already in boxes which seemed very overkill. It creates those if they're not there.
Worth it.
It’s way worth it if you’re always making knockouts forsure
I'm over here with a hole saw
😂
When reaching deep into a box to punch a hole. Make sure you don't accidently have a bolt in the knockout. 200$ mistake
Where the hell are you finding new trucks for 25k?
Yess
Would rather use a necklace than a car for transport old man lmao
I don't know when the last time you bought a new truck but 25k don't get you there.
It’s worth it if you think it’s worth it.
Or you just work for a good shop that buys it for you
25,000 truck?!?!
Jesus 2g’s? Company has to foot that bill or it’s not happening. They are nice though but that’s ridiculous
25k for a truck? Where the hell is he shopping?
Please show me where I can buy a nice new truck for $25000. I'll take 2
It's not worth 2 grand but it make the job easier and why do people use new compared to old $2000 and it will still break down on you and won't be a DIY fix
i just want to know where i can find a new truck for only 25,000 😂 maybe 50,000
I'd rather have the old truck....
The same guys are going to ask you to borrow your tools.
Nice truck for 25K ha!
where do you get a nice new truck for $25k ? lol
$2500 if it looks like the truck in the picture
25k truck?? Try 75k 😂
love mine
Bro you don’t need a thousand dollar ko set pretty cringe actually, just send that to me and don’t embarrass yourself
Yea you got lucky the boss got one for the company.
Never going back to the heavier oil filled Greenlee punch. They suck
Those who can't appreciate are the ones who never had to put muscle into popping holes on a giant J box! Lol trust me, I felt the same way til someone put that joint on my job! Lmao then I was WILLINGLY punching holes! Lol try it and see