Thank you for dispelling the “icing after throwing” myth. For all the dads out there, if you read “Iced” by Gary Reinl, you’ll never let a coach ice your son’s arm after a start again!!
Hey Trevor, I have a (slightly long-winded) dilemma. From throwing hard at a young age, genetics (my Dad has had 4 shoulder surgeries, non-sports related), and minor injuries while playing, I'm left with a bunch of scar tissue and wishing I didn't have to stop playing several years ago. My last season I was about 13-14, playing comp. While I didn't entirely blow my arm out, I started making music around the same time and eventually left the field. I'm 21 now and discovered I can still throw a bit, and fairly accurately. The problem is, as my shoulders have weakened and been away from pitching, I have damn near the same velocity as my last season, maybe just 5mph faster today. I'm not trying to go pro or anything soon by any means.. but as someone who rediscovered my love for baseball, and who thought he'd never pitch again - do you have any advice on how to keep progressing (even minimally) without overdoing it? I've been trying some of your workouts and routines but know that I'm physically threatened by some because my shoulder is in bad shape. I'm pretty much just hoping it's not a lost cause. Thanks for reading if you got the chance, glad I found your channel this year and I'm glad you're back on socials. Much love and thanks man, we appreciate you.
Get yourself a shoulder-tube and look up TBs routine from long ago. Best thing I ever did for my shoulder. Had a cranky one since I was a teen and when I started using it (in my 40s), that sent completely away. I can now use it to warm up when I get to the field and start throwing BP right away, without any throwing warmups. Incredible tool.
I totally agree, but ice has helped me once. I had extreme shoulder stabilizer muscle looseness, (arm kept falling out of socket) and ice helped tense up those muscles so they could actually heal up faster… and in the right spot.
Hey Trevor love the vids, i have a question im 16 years old and I haven’t played/thrown in 6 years and I want to become a pitcher I don’t really know what training i should do to condition my arm any tips to train my arm and get rid of elbow pain?
@Hudson House at first my arm would go numb but then as in 3 months of throwing again just light throwing its now more on my forearm like inside my elbow
@@Its_a_a_ron i think thats were i messed up i just went straight throwing hard but my arm would go numb so i took it slow now 3 months of light throwing its on my forearm area near my elbow
If you’re icing too much, yes I agree. If you’re only icing for 15-20 minutes following significant usage, then no it has benefits. But, like everything, there are people who try too heavily on it and/or take it too far.
Trevor, I love airing it out and throwing long, but in the Michigan winter, I cant really do that, any suggestions for how I can feel like I'm airing it out in a gymnasium
i live in Michigan and I just do some longtoss on the plowed road or parking lots. wear a sweatshirt and after a few throws you will feel fine. I live in the middle of lower peninsula so it may be different if you live in the UP and get a foot of snow a day. 😂
@@redwingsfan1136 I usually get out there but the ball gets wet and heavy and my fingers get all cold, I found the ball gets lost in the white snow, lol
The more I watch the more I realize the entirety of my baseball life was mismanaged.
Thank you for dispelling the “icing after throwing” myth. For all the dads out there, if you read “Iced” by Gary Reinl, you’ll never let a coach ice your son’s arm after a start again!!
Hey Trevor, I have a (slightly long-winded) dilemma. From throwing hard at a young age, genetics (my Dad has had 4 shoulder surgeries, non-sports related), and minor injuries while playing, I'm left with a bunch of scar tissue and wishing I didn't have to stop playing several years ago. My last season I was about 13-14, playing comp. While I didn't entirely blow my arm out, I started making music around the same time and eventually left the field. I'm 21 now and discovered I can still throw a bit, and fairly accurately. The problem is, as my shoulders have weakened and been away from pitching, I have damn near the same velocity as my last season, maybe just 5mph faster today. I'm not trying to go pro or anything soon by any means.. but as someone who rediscovered my love for baseball, and who thought he'd never pitch again - do you have any advice on how to keep progressing (even minimally) without overdoing it? I've been trying some of your workouts and routines but know that I'm physically threatened by some because my shoulder is in bad shape. I'm pretty much just hoping it's not a lost cause. Thanks for reading if you got the chance, glad I found your channel this year and I'm glad you're back on socials. Much love and thanks man, we appreciate you.
Get yourself a shoulder-tube and look up TBs routine from long ago. Best thing I ever did for my shoulder. Had a cranky one since I was a teen and when I started using it (in my 40s), that sent completely away. I can now use it to warm up when I get to the field and start throwing BP right away, without any throwing warmups. Incredible tool.
I totally agree, but ice has helped me once. I had extreme shoulder stabilizer muscle looseness, (arm kept falling out of socket) and ice helped tense up those muscles so they could actually heal up faster… and in the right spot.
Hey Trevor love the vids, i have a question im 16 years old and I haven’t played/thrown in 6 years and I want to become a pitcher I don’t really know what training i should do to condition my arm any tips to train my arm and get rid of elbow pain?
I don’t really know anything, but I would just gradually throw more over time, and don’t start straight up pitching instantly.
I remember in a previous video he and buster talked about how much they liked long toss. Check out his "How To STAY HEALTHY As A Youth Pitcher"
@Hudson House at first my arm would go numb but then as in 3 months of throwing again just light throwing its now more on my forearm like inside my elbow
@@Its_a_a_ron i think thats were i messed up i just went straight throwing hard but my arm would go numb so i took it slow now 3 months of light throwing its on my forearm area near my elbow
Throw with your legs
If you’re icing too much, yes I agree. If you’re only icing for 15-20 minutes following significant usage, then no it has benefits. But, like everything, there are people who try too heavily on it and/or take it too far.
Thanks trevor
So than when are ice baths a good idea?
So what should a youth pitcher, 10 years old , do after pitching a full game for their arm?
What about heat pads would you say there are beneficial for post recovery
Trevor, I love airing it out and throwing long, but in the Michigan winter, I cant really do that, any suggestions for how I can feel like I'm airing it out in a gymnasium
i live in Michigan and I just do some longtoss on the plowed road or parking lots. wear a sweatshirt and after a few throws you will feel fine. I live in the middle of lower peninsula so it may be different if you live in the UP and get a foot of snow a day. 😂
@@redwingsfan1136 I usually get out there but the ball gets wet and heavy and my fingers get all cold, I found the ball gets lost in the white snow, lol
@@adammarcotte4803 get a throwing pouch, you can do throwing indoor.
Finally someone with credibility that also hates ice👍. My arm hurts for a week after using it.
Come to Japan and play in NPB. More than welcome!
And he did!!
Opinion on Marc pro for recovery?
Thanks this was perfect
What about shoulders? I see mad max do it after every start
facts / my science teacher is my baseball coach
Agreed. Hate ice.
Shhheeeeesh
Is this dude wearing a jock strap on his head?
High School players ice because of stupid coaches and because they don’t know how to properly throw the baseball so their arm hurts
first les gooo