I am halfway through. And you bring out an excellent point Karen. My aunt had that attitude as well when she knew there was no hell fire. She said she’d just let Armageddon roll over her and she just do whatever she felt like in the meantime. Charles Davis is a former Roman Catholic scholar, writer and priest. His book of question of conscience brought up the point That when someone is in it with their whole heart and they realize it’s wrong those are the ones that leave. Too many don’t care. I see such a hypocritical self righteousness within the organization and have for years, as well as appalling apathy and depraved indifference , and I kept hearing in my head revelation, 18. And I realize now it was the same situation as when the angels had to grab them out of Sodom and Gomorrah. Jesus grabbed my hand and pulled me and thankfully, my immediate family out. As for those who become atheist, it makes me think of the scriptures where the Pharisees were being rebuked because they moved heaven and earth to make one proselyte, and then they made them twice the subject for Gehenna
Thanks so much for your deep and meaningful insight 🙏 ❤️ 💕 you have a lot of knowledge 🙏 very important to help others when they read 📚 the comments xo 🤗 😘
What a beautiful and emotional interview experience. 😢 Chaba you really touch our hearts❤❤❤. My parents and I enjoyed it so much! 😊 Karen, I felt the same way what am I doing here in the cong. I just felt awkward and would say to myself something doesn't seem right!! I really thank God my first shepherd call was given to me in January and it was a reason because even though it was so negative, God and Jesus Christ helped me to rethink and research all the facts of this organization. Glad we all woke up!!! You and Chaba really made my day today and my eyes got watery but it was a good thing, because you both show so much feelings and so caring! I don't have too much friends, but getting to know you both in TH-cam I feel like I know you both for quite sometime. I hope someday I can meet ya'll in person and my family and I can meet you too! This video really boost my confidence and more strength. We were just amazed! Many thanks to you Karen and Chaba!!! ❤🎉😊😘🌹
Awww no way Lisa!!! So glad you and your family enjoyed the video. I Waa hoping Chaba's experience would encourage others my dear friend 🧡 lots of love to you ❤️
Thanks Elaine!! 🙏👏💖 You were my very first shoutout and got me “on the scene” 🤩 A big thank you for you too Elaine and God bless you my Sister! 🙏💖 We are so so blessed to be found by Yeshua Jesus!!! THANK YOU LORD!!!🙌🙏✨🙏
Watchtower may pretend to frown on Witnesses working at or attending casinos but I bet they would gladly accept your jackpot winnings if you offered it to them. 🤑 Praise the Lord for another Witness who was drawn to Jesus. 🙏
That really depends on who it is a favoured individual they would say it's a conscience matter. Someone who they didn't like it would be a sin and you would be asked to attend a meeting with three bullies The crazy world of WT
Isn’t it crazy that the one place where you would not expect csa to be or at least as much as it happens and the cover up’s it blows my mind. This is what pushed us to leave couldn’t be part of an org that was so irresponsible no common sense no justice for victims it’s incredible that this happens of all places. Awesome video ❤
Dear Karen, Sorry for the late acknowledgment, but just wanted to THANK YOU for this lovely opportunity to attend on your channel and share my experiences and some of my story with you and your viewers! 🙏💖🙌🤩 Hope all Ex-JWs who are watching this will walk away encouraged, edified and being able to overcome the difficulties that our past and experiences have caused us, and seeing ourselves more than just victims, more than just survivors and begin to see ourselves as someone who’s worthy of Jesus’s precious blood..!🩸 As He himself says: “ I will never drive away the one who comes to me..!” So, do not be afraid…. He IS love and He will never reject you or throw you away… So don’t let your past and your experiences in this Org. (or even just life in general) decide and dictate who you are, but rather who Jesus can make you when He enters into your life and transforms your heart and giving you a new spirit. THE SPIRT…! 🙌 His Spirit God bless you all! 🙏💖🙏
I said exactly the same Karen, when i saw majority become atheists after leaving WT, I strongly questioned whether their hearts were for God at all... were they a JW for God at all. And so it makes me think, logically and statistically that most JWs also are not in for God or Jesus, they are just in the Borg for a social place. And as we know a cult is not a good social place for anybody.
I became agnostic for a time, but felt I had went too far. I did live my life as if God didn’t exist though because I was angry after all I had learned. I have mentioned to my brother before that it seems as if the organization is a social club. Great points and really makes me think! Thank you.
The are a lot of PIMO you didn't mention the elders and m/s who are and would never leave because in the KH they have a position of authority and sadly for some people its intoxicating. That's why you have to admire Ray Franz he got to the ultimate position in JW world but he didn't agree with many teachings that's a true mark of a Man
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Thanks to you both for an excellent video conversation 👍💪
Thank you so much ..! 🙏
Thank you dear Tim. Glad you enjoyed it ❤
I am halfway through. And you bring out an excellent point Karen. My aunt had that attitude as well when she knew there was no hell fire. She said she’d just let Armageddon roll over her and she just do whatever she felt like in the meantime. Charles Davis is a former Roman Catholic scholar, writer and priest. His book of question of conscience brought up the point That when someone is in it with their whole heart and they realize it’s wrong those are the ones that leave. Too many don’t care.
I see such a hypocritical self righteousness within the organization and have for years, as well as appalling apathy and depraved indifference , and I kept hearing in my head revelation, 18. And I realize now it was the same situation as when the angels had to grab them out of Sodom and Gomorrah. Jesus grabbed my hand and pulled me and thankfully, my immediate family out.
As for those who become atheist, it makes me think of the scriptures where the Pharisees were being rebuked because they moved heaven and earth to make one proselyte, and then they made them twice the subject for Gehenna
What a powerful statement…!!! So so true..!👊🙏👍
Thanks so much for your deep and meaningful insight 🙏 ❤️ 💕 you have a lot of knowledge 🙏 very important to help others when they read 📚 the comments xo 🤗 😘
Awesome interview. Chaba sounds like he has had a very interesting life. I'm so glad he is in Christ. Thanks Karen ❤xo ❤️
Thanks so much Louise❤
What a beautiful and emotional interview experience. 😢 Chaba you really touch our hearts❤❤❤. My parents and I enjoyed it so much! 😊 Karen, I felt the same way what am I doing here in the cong. I just felt awkward and would say to myself something doesn't seem right!! I really thank God my first shepherd call was given to me in January and it was a reason because even though it was so negative, God and Jesus Christ helped me to rethink and research all the facts of this organization. Glad we all woke up!!! You and Chaba really made my day today and my eyes got watery but it was a good thing, because you both show so much feelings and so caring! I don't have too much friends, but getting to know you both in TH-cam I feel like I know you both for quite sometime. I hope someday I can meet ya'll in person and my family and I can meet you too! This video really boost my confidence and more strength. We were just amazed! Many thanks to you Karen and Chaba!!! ❤🎉😊😘🌹
Awww no way Lisa!!! So glad you and your family enjoyed the video. I Waa hoping Chaba's experience would encourage others my dear friend 🧡 lots of love to you ❤️
We love you too!! ❤💖💗
We admire you, you truly are an amazing lady and sister. Bear Hugs, love, and kisses!! 😘💕🐻
Right back at you my beautiful friend 🧡
@@karen1saunders Thank you so much!!! Have a blessed and beautiful day. 😉🥰
@lisadeleon2427 you too beautiful lady 😘
Top interview Chaba and Karen. So lovely to hear two born again Christians ✝️ ❤️ speaking so enthusiastically about love for Christ ❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉
Thanks! God bless you! All praise to our Saviour Jesus! ✨🙌💖🙏🤩
Thank you Gabby ❤
Beautiful up building video Karen and Chaka❤ thank you.
Thank you dear Andrea 😘 💕
Karen fantastic interview. Great story. So happy you found Jesus Christ. Barry heartwarming sounds like a great guy Amen brother ❤️👍👍
Thanks so much, dear Guy. I knew you would find Chaba encouraging xo ❤ 😘
@@karen1saunders I sure did ❤️🤗
Thanks for a great video, I really did enjoy hearing your story. So wonderful to finally have found our freedom.
Thanks Elaine!! 🙏👏💖 You were my very first shoutout and got me “on the scene” 🤩
A big thank you for you too Elaine and God bless you my Sister! 🙏💖 We are so so blessed to be found by Yeshua Jesus!!!
THANK YOU LORD!!!🙌🙏✨🙏
Glad you enjoyed it! Elaine
Raw and true interview. Chaba has a heart ❤️ 💙 💜 for the Lord. Wonderful experiences. Thank you Karen for always keeping it real and natural xoxoxo ❤
Hey Cleo, thanks so much ❤
Thanks so much! 🙏💖🙏
Very nice interview ❤ and encouraging too 👍 👏 xo ❤️
Thanks so much 🙏 💓
I love brother Chaba his channel is amazing
💖👏🙏🤩
Me too. Yes he's amazing 👏 🤩
Best interview I have listened to over many years. So glad for him waking up and finding Jesus.
Many thanks Stephen ❤
Watchtower may pretend to frown on Witnesses working at or attending casinos but I bet they would gladly accept your jackpot winnings if you offered it to them. 🤑
Praise the Lord for another Witness who was drawn to Jesus. 🙏
Awesome 👌 you are right my friend 🧡
That really depends on who it is a favoured individual they would say it's a conscience matter.
Someone who they didn't like it would be a sin and you would be asked to attend a meeting with three bullies
The crazy world of WT
@@thetruthk5138 I know firsthand that you are right. Different rules for different tiers of elitism.
@user-bi5op9bu9d yes unfortunately it's so true 👍
@thetruthk5138 yes very crazy indeed 😜
Isn’t it crazy that the one place where you would not expect csa to be or at least as much as it happens and the cover up’s it blows my mind. This is what pushed us to leave couldn’t be part of an org that was so irresponsible no common sense no justice for victims it’s incredible that this happens of all places. Awesome video ❤
Thanks so much for your comments 😊 ❤
Dear Karen,
Sorry for the late acknowledgment, but just wanted to THANK YOU for this lovely opportunity to attend on your channel and share my experiences and some of my story with you and your viewers! 🙏💖🙌🤩
Hope all Ex-JWs who are watching this will walk away encouraged, edified and being able to overcome the difficulties that our past and experiences have caused us, and seeing ourselves more than just victims, more than just survivors and begin to see ourselves as someone who’s worthy of Jesus’s precious blood..!🩸
As He himself says: “ I will never drive away the one who comes to me..!”
So, do not be afraid…. He IS love and He will never reject you or throw you away…
So don’t let your past and your experiences in this Org. (or even just life in general) decide and dictate who you are, but rather who Jesus can make you when He enters into your life and transforms your heart and giving you a new spirit. THE SPIRT…! 🙌 His Spirit
God bless you all! 🙏💖🙏
Thank you so much too my friend 🧡 everyone has been so encouraged by you 💗 Look forward to having you back on the channel 😀 ❤
With the greatest pleasure! 🤩👏👍🙏🙌
A native from up the road here.. thanks Karen! I will watch now
OK my friend 🧡
Great interview Karen! Thank you,and thank you Chaba,l was in and out in a similar period,left in 2017,God bless you both,well done,peace and love.🙏❤️
Thank you Derek, glad you’ve found your freedom in Christ!
Thanks so much dear Derek. Thanks for your continued support too❤
yeah Chaba, I would say that too, most JWs are filled with depression
Sadly is so true….😢
Yes itsvery sad 😢
I said exactly the same Karen, when i saw majority become atheists after leaving WT, I strongly questioned whether their hearts were for God at all... were they a JW for God at all. And so it makes me think, logically and statistically that most JWs also are not in for God or Jesus, they are just in the Borg for a social place. And as we know a cult is not a good social place for anybody.
I became agnostic for a time, but felt I had went too far. I did live my life as if God didn’t exist though because I was angry after all I had learned. I have mentioned to my brother before that it seems as if the organization is a social club. Great points and really makes me think! Thank you.
@@HerefortheLove I've heard relatives of JWs say that Watchtower is a social club
I totally agree.
Exactly my friend ❤100 💯 correct xo ❤
Yep !!
The are a lot of PIMO you didn't mention the elders and m/s who are and would never leave because in the KH they have a position of authority and sadly for some people its intoxicating.
That's why you have to admire Ray Franz he got to the ultimate position in JW world but he didn't agree with many teachings that's a true mark of a Man
💯 correct thanks for your comments 👍 🙏 😊
I’ll visit your other channel Karen. I’m going to email you on Friday.
Lovely 😀 😍 I look forward to hearing from you 😀
Karen, would you perhaps know of a CO's wife in Bne named Sue ?
No I don't what's the sir name ?
@@karen1saunders I can't remember, they were somewhere south of Bne