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The Lord of Murder shall perish. But in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos will be sown from their passing. So sayeth the wise Alaundo.
If I remember correctly, the reason Bhaal plays such a pivotal role is because even though he came in third during the tests, he was in fact given the power over death (not the dead). Thus, he could deny Bane the deaths Bane required to enact his tyranny or deny to Myrkul the dead required to feed his armies. I think there's lore about him one-upping them after the contest, pointing this out to them when they crowed about beating him. In fact, I think it's lore that's written in things you find in one or both of the first two BG games. If you want good lore for them, read the Forgotten Realms "Avatar Series" (one of the ones they did with different authors for each book). It tells the story of their machinations from the perspective of following the group of Cyric, Kelemvor, Midnight and Adon when they were still mortal....and how some of them ascended to the pantheon of gods that exists now....and all about the plot with the tablets. Elminster's there too!
10/10 Solid lore video. I've been playing D&D for 10 years and read the Drizzt novels, but never got deeper in to the lore like this. Keep up the good work!
There was zero effort for this in that game, maybe you meant the addon Throne of Bhaal, but there it's anyone's choice, which means in canon they will take the more "epic" (or standard) choice anyway.
It is not even clear what the formerly Dead Three are in the current edition (5th). Myrkul is not even a full power and neither is Bhaal, so who knows?
Thank you for another great lore video on Balgur's Gate 3. I appreciate the research and professional videos to help explain this fascinating subject. Looking forward to watching the others.
BG3 Spoilers.... I am a MASSIVE fan of the lore behind Bhaal and the Bhaalspawn. From the members of the Tribunal, to actually speak to Bhaal himself, The Dark Urge origin scratched that itch in so many levels. Although a old video, I rewatch this every now and again :)
Love your storytelling styled videos, great editing. I also think, as mentioned in some of the comments bellow, that a crackling fire, either that or another, is a great staple.
This was very helpful. I remember the Time of Troubles, but the never-ending soap opera of Faerun's deities is one of the reasons I stopped paying attention to the setting not long after. At least knowing that much about the setting set me up to play BG1/2 without being confused. Finding Bane, Bhaal and Myrkhul living as mortals would be very confusing for me.
Honestly, it still has not been resolved. Technically only Bane is a full deity and it is not clear what Myrkul and Bhaal are now, demipowers, something less?
@@thinking-ape6483 WotC decided to have Bane become some mortal...god...thing, like the rest of the Dark Three. Why a greater deity with one of the biggest followings in the Forgotten Realms would somehow want to take a massive downgrade in power and status to go steal candy from babies is, of course, never explained.
As far as i remember the story of BG1+2 in the time of the gods walking as avatars between humans several gods were slain by powerful mortals and Bhaal foresaw his death and thats why he created offspring, so his essence would be spread and the death of mortals by them would fuel their essence and when they finally die by their fellow brothers and sisters this soul would be banished and collected in Bhaals realm and the plan was for Bhaals Head Priestess to reawaken him, but Amelyssan/Melissan betrayed her God and wanted the essence for herself, thats why she orchestrated the huge war at the end of "Throne of Bhaal" by scheming and manipulating all of the mightiest Bhaal Spawn to fight each other for the Throne, while she pretended to be a saviour for all the weak offspring, trying to keep them save, but actually she collected them all in one spot to be sacrificed. And the protagonist in the end has the decision to either become the new God of Murder or to decline this option, which would mean in BG3 we will face our old protagonist as the new God of Murder or there must have been another explanation how Bhaal came back from the dead and forgotten Gods.
They had the choice to assimilate rest of Baal's essence and become a god. It was never stated, that they'd be the god of murder, or even tied to any alignment or any such thing when they did so. I always figured, that they'd have to figure their portfolio out for themselves, what they wanted to be a god of.
@@raifthemad it was a fluke. Amelissan as the Head Priestess scammed the Bhaalspawn into believing that the last Highlander will become the new God of Murder(the energy connected to Bhaal wouldnt let you change your Domain imo) but actually the whole Murder-ing of victims and the death of Bhaalspawn essence was planned to resurrect the God of Murder himself in the end. But Amelissan played not only all the Bhaalspawn against each other but also betrayed Bhaal by planning to use the essence for herself to become a Godess.
I remember the lore differently. All of them died, sure. But Bhaal had his Bhaalspawn plan to bring him back which ultimately failed due to his High Pristess betraying him. Myrkul ingrained himself so much into the mind of people that they would never forget him, allowing him to "survive" in the Astral Plane running on fumes. And Bane, after getting killed by Torm, actually made it back, bursting forth from his own son, taking control over his former domain. I never heard of the story that was told in this video.
Thank you - great lorevideo! Im gonna make a Warlock 3 / Paladin 7. A person who is both blessed and cursed to divine power in what only he believes is right. A real upcoming demigod dreamer.
Considering in the current FR world state in DnD 5e, canonically, Gorions Ward rejected godhood. And eventually died as one of if not the last Bhaalspawn and Bhaal did indeed return. (not sure if Larian is going off that) Assuming of course the world state hasn't changed since 5e's release. Indeed I could very well be wrong. Heck even Bane is alive again in 5e. Just cannot keep a villain down in Forgotten Realms.
Currently in act 3 and not a whiff of him. I expected his agents to pop up at some points and try to ruin the plans of the three, but noting. Hundred years would hardly be enough time for him to get over the fact that these pathetic mortals got the portfolios he felt rightfully belonged to him.
You can search for lore about the gods and cosmology of forgotten realms if you like, since that's where it's set. Also you can find good info on the city of baldurs gate and the rest of the sword coast.
I can imagine the other 2 making some kind of appearance, but not Bhaal, considering that gorions ward became a god by taking all of Bhaal's divine essence and permanently preventing his resurrection.
5 edition is a mess regarding consistency, it basically retconed everything that happened in the 4th and some things from the 2 to 3rd transition. It's a hot mess.
They didn't change story per se, Cyric still killed them, but some of them already were ressurected (refer to the "Murder in Baldur's Gate" adventure for Bhaal ressurection). I guess that BG3 may be the place where we get better info on if and how and when the rest of the dead three were ressurected.
@@SpiritofNature Myrkul said at that time that while there were those who still worshiped him, he would eventually recover most of his spirit. Eternal rest is not so eternal for DnD gods.
....but Bane was resurrected in 3e and has stayed a greater deity since his return. WotC seems to have conveniently forgotten that he's been around for 20 years real time.
@@wyrdthane I imagined , a bard drow , who is forced to play only for the nobles , he runs away from the oppression of the underdark , and discovers the freedom he never had and from there on he travels as much as possible to play for all the people who wants , sorry for my English xD
Do you know what choice you make at the end of Throne of Bhaal? If you choose to become a GOD, your character jolly well SHOULD still be around a hundred years later! I get that import options wouldn’t work.
You keep saying Io. In every source I have ever seen about the Overgod, going back all the way to basic, it's always Ao. I know you aren't talking about Asgorath. Io created dragons and ain't got shit to do with this story.
Interesting video. I've played all the old games (because I'm that old). Bhaal is obviously linked to BG1 and 2. Myrkul is linked to IWD 1 and Bane is linked to IWD 2, IMHO.
Myrkul was linked to Neverwinter Nights 2 Mask of the Betrayer. Bane was in the Pools of Darkness game and novelization, the sequel to Pool of Radiance.
Small Question. How did the Dead Three Return to life? I know Bane had a helmet containing his essence. And Bhaal had the Bhaalspawn. But it sounds like Bhaal managed to come back without the Bhaalspawn. Or is this relating to that one Codex that had the last 2 Bhaalspawn killing each other?
There was no helmet. After Bane, Bhaal and Myrkul were slain during the Time of Troubles (which happened ten years before the first Baldur's Gate game), Cyric temporarily took most of the powers of the Dead Three, and a small portion of Bane's power went to his son Iyachtu Xvim. Like Bhaal's Bhaalspawn, Bane's son was instrumental in his resurrection, Iyachtu was used as a cocoon for Bane's essence. Bane's resurrection happened in the winter of the year the first Neverwinter Nights game happened. Though most of the Bhaalspawn died during the events of the Baldur's Gate games, and the game protagonist and Imoen gave up their essences to become regular mortals, there were two Bhaalspawn remaining that lived for 100 years because of Bhaal's essence on them, Viekang and Abdel. Their deaths brought Bhaal back. Myrkul's method of survival is a plot point in Neverwinter Nights 2 Mask of the Betrayer.
@@LightStreak567 No, he's right. Canonically, Myrkul's essence survives in the Crown of Horns, which appeared in 2e's Villain's Lorebook (I think) and was updated to 3e in Magic of Faerun. MotB is not canon.
@@LordMortanius Inu never mentioned Myrkul, only Bane and Bhaal, I only corrected him about how Bane returned. 3e sourcebooks like Magic of Faerun are usually chronologically set in 3e's present day, 1372 DR. MotB is set two years afterwards in 1374 DR, so your claim that MotB is not canon is wrong. Magic of Faerun's info on Myrkul surviving in the Crown of Horns proves The developers of NWN 2 have been doing their homework on Forgotten Realms lore. The expansion's story exists in FR lore, but Myrkul's fate at the hands of the NWN 2 protagonist when he/she finds the Crown of Horns doesn't matter to the Second Sundering.
@@LightStreak567 NWN2 and MotB are of dubious canonicity given that they're not mentioned outside the games. The Bhaalspawn saga was at least given a novelization. Though Myrkul's divine essence surviving in multiple vessels does have precedent; Bane is almost revived in 2e in a novel featuring Finder Wyvernspur, long before it was revealed that Xvim literally had Bane living inside him.
I would say yes, but we could encounter these three in more weakened forms. They are mortal now in the time of BG3 and no longer true gods. Maybe with the use of the environment and some NPC help we could take one of them out!
Nice video man! Looking forward for the video about the history of Baldur's Gate 1 and 2. I didn't play the games when I was young, and recently I tried to play but the graphics sucks so much and it's AD&D rules 🤣... Too late for me now, should have played ten years earlier 🤣. The history video will come in handy and give me some lore to start the BD 3. Thanks, man. Greetings from Brazil
Thanks for watching. I totally understand. You should have played 20 years earlier! Crazy that Baldur’s Gate 1 came out in 1998 and Baldur’s Gate 2 in 2000! Greetings from New York.
Didn't Cyric got the power of Bane, Bhaal and Myrkul after the Time of Trouble. Kelemvor get the portfolio of God of Death and Midnight replaced Mystra later after Helm kill Mystra.
You're wrong, but not entirely. Mystra was destroyed by Helm for trying to bypass him on the Celestial Stairway, but eventually a mortal woman named Midnight who was one of Cyric's companions before he betrayed them and ascended to godhood became the new Mystra. Bane was destroyed by Torm, Bhaal was destroyed by Cyric, and Myrkul was destroyed by Midnight herself, the next Mystra.
Been a few years I didn't read the trilogy of Midnight, Cyric and Kel. I didn't put all the info you added but I still remember most of what you write. I really like forgetting realm book. It was another era when you was playing with real dice, papers, and your player handbook version 2.
Does that mean that NWN2 Masks of the Betrayer isn't canon ? Or at least the choice of ending Myrkul for good ? Or just that Myrkulites worship an inexisting god ?
I like your videos,really. Very informative and cool to watch &hear but... How come that in the video you said that you might do the lore videos on past Baldur's gates just after Baldur's gate 3 is in creation? I mean...if you are a huge fan and a lover of Baldur's gate game, you would have done videos way before any of us knew about Baldur's gate 3. See where I'm going with this?
Thanks for watching but no I don’t really see where you are going with this haha. Did you know that Baldur’s Gate 1 came out in 1998 and Baldur’s Gate 2 2000? TH-cam wasn’t even close to being around.
@@WolfheartFPS your profile is 8 years old. Before announcement of BD3 you could have made videos about BD1 and BD2. That is my point. I hope you are not, as some people say, "tryharding" to make content of an exciting game that is to come. Not only that. I would personally appreciate you doing at least lore of the BD1 and BD2 since all i see is that you are a big fan nearly fully placing time and energy in BD3. This is my opinion but for whatever it's worth, i only desire to see someone with your set of skill and knowledge to give us viewer's all the angles, not only BD3. All of this is with respect but that is my opinion.
@@alexandarblake6191 Are you familiar with how the youtube algorithm works if he had made a baldurs gate 1 and 2 lore video back in the past no one would ever see it, because the search term for baldurs gate 1 and 2 would probably have burried it in all subsequent potential searches like "rpg" etc. it wouldnt have been worth the time for a youtuber to make such a video about games long dead. It makes sense now to extrapolate thier lore to ready people for the history for BG3. Is your you tube identity wrapped up in BG1 and 2 lore videos or something ?
You are the second person today I watched a D&D video of that got a name wrong. His name is not A-i-o., it is AO. Alpha and Omega, Ey-oh. Where is the i coming from? You don't say A-i-lpha, do you? Otherwise, fine video.
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The Lord of Murder shall perish. But in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos will be sown from their passing. So sayeth the wise Alaundo.
Turns out Alaundo wasn't that wise. Couldn't even count.
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Score can mean 20 so I guess he underreported their numbers.
Speaking to Myrkul was one of the highlights in NWN2: Mask of the Betrayer. I will always remember that scene.
Consuming his spirit with eternal rest was better than speaking to that cryptic husk, though.
If I remember correctly, the reason Bhaal plays such a pivotal role is because even though he came in third during the tests, he was in fact given the power over death (not the dead). Thus, he could deny Bane the deaths Bane required to enact his tyranny or deny to Myrkul the dead required to feed his armies. I think there's lore about him one-upping them after the contest, pointing this out to them when they crowed about beating him. In fact, I think it's lore that's written in things you find in one or both of the first two BG games. If you want good lore for them, read the Forgotten Realms "Avatar Series" (one of the ones they did with different authors for each book). It tells the story of their machinations from the perspective of following the group of Cyric, Kelemvor, Midnight and Adon when they were still mortal....and how some of them ascended to the pantheon of gods that exists now....and all about the plot with the tablets. Elminster's there too!
Thanks for the recommendations!
"The Avatar Trilogy" was by far my favourite Forgotten Realms story line, followed by the book "Prince of Lies". I really should read the last book.
Myrkul does the same thing as he tells Bane that all his followers will eventually become part of his kingdom.
Fittingly dark atmosphere. That campfire sound is so relaxing though. Love hearing it play at the end too.
I am planning to play a ranger 5/ Cleric 5 of Kelemvor so hearing the dead three will be a story line is of great interest to me.
10/10 Solid lore video. I've been playing D&D for 10 years and read the Drizzt novels, but never got deeper in to the lore like this. Keep up the good work!
Thanks I appreciate it!
i don't know about 10/10. that picture of three people is not a picture of the dead three, but a picture of followers of the dead three.
This video is still useful une year after the release of the game. Thank you so much WolfheartFPS!
Great! All the effort in Baldur's Gate II to prevent Bhaal's ressurrection was all for naught.
There was zero effort for this in that game, maybe you meant the addon Throne of Bhaal, but there it's anyone's choice, which means in canon they will take the more "epic" (or standard) choice anyway.
It is not even clear what the formerly Dead Three are in the current edition (5th). Myrkul is not even a full power and neither is Bhaal, so who knows?
Dude you're absolutely killin' it! Keep up the great work dude.
Thank you for another great lore video on Balgur's Gate 3. I appreciate the research and professional videos to help explain this fascinating subject. Looking forward to watching the others.
Thanks for watching Louic.
BG3 Spoilers....
I am a MASSIVE fan of the lore behind Bhaal and the Bhaalspawn. From the members of the Tribunal, to actually speak to Bhaal himself, The Dark Urge origin scratched that itch in so many levels.
Although a old video, I rewatch this every now and again :)
Cheers!
Wonderful video! As always. I really appreciate your dedication to making these videos. I’m so excited for this game to come out 😁
& I appreciate you watching Christopher!
Love your storytelling styled videos, great editing.
I also think, as mentioned in some of the comments bellow, that a crackling fire, either that or another, is a great staple.
Then the fire shall persist! Thanks A Ver
If you end up coming across the slayer that would raise some very interting questions.
This was very helpful. I remember the Time of Troubles, but the never-ending soap opera of Faerun's deities is one of the reasons I stopped paying attention to the setting not long after. At least knowing that much about the setting set me up to play BG1/2 without being confused. Finding Bane, Bhaal and Myrkhul living as mortals would be very confusing for me.
Honestly, it still has not been resolved. Technically only Bane is a full deity and it is not clear what Myrkul and Bhaal are now, demipowers, something less?
Thanks for watching Tim. Happy to help
@@thinking-ape6483 WotC decided to have Bane become some mortal...god...thing, like the rest of the Dark Three. Why a greater deity with one of the biggest followings in the Forgotten Realms would somehow want to take a massive downgrade in power and status to go steal candy from babies is, of course, never explained.
When making a bonfire keep all kindling short and within the fire ring area.
Remember, only you can prevent forest fires!
Hell yeah man! Keep the lore videos up! Thanks for what you do!
People like you keep me wanting to make them!! Thanks 🙏🏻
As far as i remember the story of BG1+2 in the time of the gods walking as avatars between humans several gods were slain by powerful mortals and Bhaal foresaw his death and thats why he created offspring, so his essence would be spread and the death of mortals by them would fuel their essence and when they finally die by their fellow brothers and sisters this soul would be banished and collected in Bhaals realm and the plan was for Bhaals Head Priestess to reawaken him, but Amelyssan/Melissan betrayed her God and wanted the essence for herself, thats why she orchestrated the huge war at the end of "Throne of Bhaal" by scheming and manipulating all of the mightiest Bhaal Spawn to fight each other for the Throne, while she pretended to be a saviour for all the weak offspring, trying to keep them save, but actually she collected them all in one spot to be sacrificed. And the protagonist in the end has the decision to either become the new God of Murder or to decline this option, which would mean in BG3 we will face our old protagonist as the new God of Murder or there must have been another explanation how Bhaal came back from the dead and forgotten Gods.
They had the choice to assimilate rest of Baal's essence and become a god. It was never stated, that they'd be the god of murder, or even tied to any alignment or any such thing when they did so. I always figured, that they'd have to figure their portfolio out for themselves, what they wanted to be a god of.
@@raifthemad it was a fluke. Amelissan as the Head Priestess scammed the Bhaalspawn into believing that the last Highlander will become the new God of Murder(the energy connected to Bhaal wouldnt let you change your Domain imo) but actually the whole Murder-ing of victims and the death of Bhaalspawn essence was planned to resurrect the God of Murder himself in the end. But Amelissan played not only all the Bhaalspawn against each other but also betrayed Bhaal by planning to use the essence for herself to become a Godess.
I remember the lore differently. All of them died, sure. But Bhaal had his Bhaalspawn plan to bring him back which ultimately failed due to his High Pristess betraying him. Myrkul ingrained himself so much into the mind of people that they would never forget him, allowing him to "survive" in the Astral Plane running on fumes. And Bane, after getting killed by Torm, actually made it back, bursting forth from his own son, taking control over his former domain.
I never heard of the story that was told in this video.
Myrkul actually survives in the Crown of Horns.
Also, WotC laughs at consistency and does whatever they want, so don't worry about it.
Thank you - great lorevideo! Im gonna make a Warlock 3 / Paladin 7. A person who is both blessed and cursed to divine power in what only he believes is right. A real upcoming demigod dreamer.
Thanks for watching. I like your build idea.
WolfheartFPS thanks - i have been thinking about since they annonced BG3 ;) What are you gonna play?
I just want to say you are doing a great job. Keep up the great work! :)
I appreciate that!
Video of BG1 & BG2 would be amazing!
Check my latest upload! 😃
Awesome, farming free xp from the dead three followers is going to be fun.
Can I just skip to the part where 2020 is over and bg3 is released?
Lolll
Totally loving all your content, but especially these lore vids! Kudos Wolfheart
Thanks 🙏🏻 🙏🏻
Great video, i love to listen to these lore videos
Considering in the current FR world state in DnD 5e, canonically, Gorions Ward rejected godhood. And eventually died as one of if not the last Bhaalspawn and Bhaal did indeed return. (not sure if Larian is going off that) Assuming of course the world state hasn't changed since 5e's release. Indeed I could very well be wrong. Heck even Bane is alive again in 5e. Just cannot keep a villain down in Forgotten Realms.
Bane returned in 3e. 5e massively downgrades him.
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Hahah how many videos did it take!? lol thanks & welcome!
baal is the connection between the two other i suppose, because if he dont murder the other get no souls, but not sure anymore
I was thinking. Wow he should do a big 1 and bg2 video. And you said it lol good video bro
The last part of the dead three being mortal again is something that was retconned ?! I thought they are just alive in fifth edition and thats it...?!
god i'm so hype for this game
With The dead three，and BG series and Neverwinter game series could make a FCU（Faerum cinematic universe）movies like DC and marvel does
I have no words for this
Love these. More more!
Great video. Can't wait for more.
Thanks!!
Great video always interesting Wolf
i really hope Cyric makes a return i miss the lil scamp
Currently in act 3 and not a whiff of him. I expected his agents to pop up at some points and try to ruin the plans of the three, but noting. Hundred years would hardly be enough time for him to get over the fact that these pathetic mortals got the portfolios he felt rightfully belonged to him.
@@raifthemad well i guess im going to make a Cyricist build to represent his greatness
Thanks a i was looking for some "Gods" Lore , any other video like this one ?
You can search for lore about the gods and cosmology of forgotten realms if you like, since that's where it's set. Also you can find good info on the city of baldurs gate and the rest of the sword coast.
I can imagine the other 2 making some kind of appearance, but not Bhaal, considering that gorions ward became a god by taking all of Bhaal's divine essence and permanently preventing his resurrection.
@@marcialhd iirc the novels (which many people hated), Gorion's Ward become an aristocrat in Baldur's Gate.
@@takarahayashi4124 and then there was a 100 year time skip going into 5th edition, too
Well this has aged terribly
@@serenisma3402 only because Larian screwed over the lore lol
I want Baldur's III NOW! (just saying) lol
We where the badass son of bhaal in BG1/2 🤗
I thought Cyric and Kelemvor replaced two of these dieties. Did they change the lore or history?
5 edition is a mess regarding consistency, it basically retconed everything that happened in the 4th and some things from the 2 to 3rd transition. It's a hot mess.
Not a D&D player nor a DM, but that's why homebrew settings and campaigns are better.
They didn't change story per se, Cyric still killed them, but some of them already were ressurected (refer to the "Murder in Baldur's Gate" adventure for Bhaal ressurection). I guess that BG3 may be the place where we get better info on if and how and when the rest of the dead three were ressurected.
And Myrkul was finally killed for good in Neverwinter Nights 2. So yeah a lot of questions.
@@SpiritofNature Myrkul said at that time that while there were those who still worshiped him, he would eventually recover most of his spirit. Eternal rest is not so eternal for DnD gods.
I shall slay these demi gods... or join with them 💀
Awesome lore !
Well according to D&D lore, both Bane and Bhaal managed to pave the way for their respective resurrections, so guess BG3 will be a part of that tale.
So did Myrkul in Neverwinter Nights 2 Mask of the Betrayer
....but Bane was resurrected in 3e and has stayed a greater deity since his return. WotC seems to have conveniently forgotten that he's been around for 20 years real time.
Nice video 👍
thanks!
@WolfheartFPS will you be recording your first play through and uploading it to your channel ??
I’m not sure yet!! But I’ll definitely be posting a lot of gameplay as well as streaming.
Just rewatch the bard video 😂, I change my decision , for my first run I make a drow bard🤔
hell yeah bards for life
Ok but why.
@@wyrdthane I imagined , a bard drow , who is forced to play only for the nobles , he runs away from the oppression of the underdark , and discovers the freedom he never had and from there on he travels as much as possible to play for all the people who wants , sorry for my English xD
😂 awesome
Will your choice at the end of Throne of Bhaal make any difference.
Do you know what choice you make at the end of Throne of Bhaal? If you choose to become a GOD, your character jolly well SHOULD still be around a hundred years later!
I get that import options wouldn’t work.
Cyric wants to know your location.
Lol
So they ascended because the god of death was bored
You keep saying Io. In every source I have ever seen about the Overgod, going back all the way to basic, it's always Ao. I know you aren't talking about Asgorath. Io created dragons and ain't got shit to do with this story.
Interesting video. I've played all the old games (because I'm that old). Bhaal is obviously linked to BG1 and 2. Myrkul is linked to IWD 1 and Bane is linked to IWD 2, IMHO.
Myrkul was linked to Neverwinter Nights 2 Mask of the Betrayer. Bane was in the Pools of Darkness game and novelization, the sequel to Pool of Radiance.
Small Question.
How did the Dead Three Return to life?
I know Bane had a helmet containing his essence.
And Bhaal had the Bhaalspawn.
But it sounds like Bhaal managed to come back without the Bhaalspawn.
Or is this relating to that one Codex that had the last 2 Bhaalspawn killing each other?
There was no helmet. After Bane, Bhaal and Myrkul were slain during the Time of Troubles (which happened ten years before the first Baldur's Gate game), Cyric temporarily took most of the powers of the Dead Three, and a small portion of Bane's power went to his son Iyachtu Xvim. Like Bhaal's Bhaalspawn, Bane's son was instrumental in his resurrection, Iyachtu was used as a cocoon for Bane's essence. Bane's resurrection happened in the winter of the year the first Neverwinter Nights game happened.
Though most of the Bhaalspawn died during the events of the Baldur's Gate games, and the game protagonist and Imoen gave up their essences to become regular mortals, there were two Bhaalspawn remaining that lived for 100 years because of Bhaal's essence on them, Viekang and Abdel. Their deaths brought Bhaal back. Myrkul's method of survival is a plot point in Neverwinter Nights 2 Mask of the Betrayer.
@@LightStreak567 No, he's right. Canonically, Myrkul's essence survives in the Crown of Horns, which appeared in 2e's Villain's Lorebook (I think) and was updated to 3e in Magic of Faerun. MotB is not canon.
@@LordMortanius Inu never mentioned Myrkul, only Bane and Bhaal, I only corrected him about how Bane returned. 3e sourcebooks like Magic of Faerun are usually chronologically set in 3e's present day, 1372 DR. MotB is set two years afterwards in 1374 DR, so your claim that MotB is not canon is wrong. Magic of Faerun's info on Myrkul surviving in the Crown of Horns proves The developers of NWN 2 have been doing their homework on Forgotten Realms lore. The expansion's story exists in FR lore, but Myrkul's fate at the hands of the NWN 2 protagonist when he/she finds the Crown of Horns doesn't matter to the Second Sundering.
@@LightStreak567 NWN2 and MotB are of dubious canonicity given that they're not mentioned outside the games. The Bhaalspawn saga was at least given a novelization.
Though Myrkul's divine essence surviving in multiple vessels does have precedent; Bane is almost revived in 2e in a novel featuring Finder Wyvernspur, long before it was revealed that Xvim literally had Bane living inside him.
@@marcialhd Except Abdel still exists in 5e. Silly WotC.
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Isn't the lvl 10 low to encounter deities?
Meet them , ok. But fight them ? I think that would be fitting for a 15 lvl player
I would say yes, but we could encounter these three in more weakened forms. They are mortal now in the time of BG3 and no longer true gods. Maybe with the use of the environment and some NPC help we could take one of them out!
Nice video man! Looking forward for the video about the history of Baldur's Gate 1 and 2. I didn't play the games when I was young, and recently I tried to play but the graphics sucks so much and it's AD&D rules 🤣... Too late for me now, should have played ten years earlier 🤣. The history video will come in handy and give me some lore to start the BD 3.
Thanks, man. Greetings from Brazil
Thanks for watching. I totally understand. You should have played 20 years earlier! Crazy that Baldur’s Gate 1 came out in 1998 and Baldur’s Gate 2 in 2000! Greetings from New York.
Is there a transcript on this?
Didn't Cyric got the power of Bane, Bhaal and Myrkul after the Time of Trouble. Kelemvor get the portfolio of God of Death and Midnight replaced Mystra later after Helm kill Mystra.
You're wrong, but not entirely. Mystra was destroyed by Helm for trying to bypass him on the Celestial Stairway, but eventually a mortal woman named Midnight who was one of Cyric's companions before he betrayed them and ascended to godhood became the new Mystra. Bane was destroyed by Torm, Bhaal was destroyed by Cyric, and Myrkul was destroyed by Midnight herself, the next Mystra.
Been a few years I didn't read the trilogy of Midnight, Cyric and Kel. I didn't put all the info you added but I still remember most of what you write. I really like forgetting realm book. It was another era when you was playing with real dice, papers, and your player handbook version 2.
The over god of faerun is AO. IO is the greater dragon god
Thank you sir.
Does that mean that NWN2 Masks of the Betrayer isn't canon ? Or at least the choice of ending Myrkul for good ? Or just that Myrkulites worship an inexisting god ?
MotB isn't canon. Myrkul's deific essence survives in the Crowns of Horns, and has done so since 2e.
I like your videos,really. Very informative and cool to watch &hear but...
How come that in the video you said that you might do the lore videos on past Baldur's gates just after Baldur's gate 3 is in creation? I mean...if you are a huge fan and a lover of Baldur's gate game, you would have done videos way before any of us knew about Baldur's gate 3. See where I'm going with this?
Thanks for watching but no I don’t really see where you are going with this haha. Did you know that Baldur’s Gate 1 came out in 1998 and Baldur’s Gate 2 2000? TH-cam wasn’t even close to being around.
@@WolfheartFPS your profile is 8 years old. Before announcement of BD3 you could have made videos about BD1 and BD2. That is my point. I hope you are not, as some people say, "tryharding" to make content of an exciting game that is to come. Not only that. I would personally appreciate you doing at least lore of the BD1 and BD2 since all i see is that you are a big fan nearly fully placing time and energy in BD3. This is my opinion but for whatever it's worth, i only desire to see someone with your set of skill and knowledge to give us viewer's all the angles, not only BD3. All of this is with respect but that is my opinion.
@@alexandarblake6191 Are you familiar with how the youtube algorithm works if he had made a baldurs gate 1 and 2 lore video back in the past no one would ever see it, because the search term for baldurs gate 1 and 2 would probably have burried it in all subsequent potential searches like "rpg" etc. it wouldnt have been worth the time for a youtuber to make such a video about games long dead. It makes sense now to extrapolate thier lore to ready people for the history for BG3. Is your you tube identity wrapped up in BG1 and 2 lore videos or something ?
You are the second person today I watched a D&D video of that got a name wrong. His name is not A-i-o., it is AO. Alpha and Omega, Ey-oh. Where is the i coming from? You don't say A-i-lpha, do you? Otherwise, fine video.
Bane is a woman?! Wow!
He did mention "he". I don't know. Wouldn't mind. Tyranny to women! :D
@@HeFromBelow I know. But Bane on the picture definitly has feminine features.
why does everyone call bhall as ball? something to do with english pronunciation?
there better not be a bunch of sjw bullshit in this game
Bane "art" looks ridiculous. Myrkul's little skull on a chain looks silly... Whoever made this has poor taste.
Dear God definitely not playing this trash game. Whoever took over this genera really lost course of how cool the original game is.
This is a dead generation of gaming. This game is trash
Always some dumb toxic uninformed idiot who has to voice his stupid opinion
The last part of the dead three being mortal again is something that was retconned ?! I thought they are just alive in fifth edition and thats it...?!