Thanks for all the comments! To those suggesting this job might be better suited to a 3D print, take a look at this short update: th-cam.com/video/X4ctgZKo18g/w-d-xo.html
What a nice, clean build! I especially like how you got into other details besides just machining, like the circuit re-design and anodizing, to get it just how you want. Really neat. This is also my first time watching (not sure why) but your editing and voiceovers are great!
Thanks for the excellent video. So well done, I didn't feel it was necessary to quick step through any part. I wish I had seen this before I added a ring light to my CNC mill. 🙂
So many good and interesting processes and ideas. Yep, this was bonkers over the top attention to detail to get shadow free lighting, but boy this was so full of insights. I love the mistakes that are learning moments. Over the top but nothing is wasted in this educational piece. Stunning quality productions. Thank you.
Right? Everything else was... something I hadn't necessarily thought of, but seemed straightforward/obvious enough. The brass tube, though, I would certainly not have thought of... though now perhaps I will! I love it!
You were served up and the title caught my mind. I have just spent 2 days modifying a trailer hitch on the mill. The lighting is behind the tooling. My bandsaw has a light on flex which is also a pain. Do I want new lights? Too right. As I watched I realized what a quality production you offer. Nicely paced, lovely vocals and lighting, informative. A pleasant change from our usual stateside comrades. I subscribed. Re tube bending. Filling it with sugar is a nice twist on the other suggestions. You can dissolve it if need be.
Love what you made there! I’d have gone straight to the 3D printer to make the housing but yours is far classier… I wonder whether, with a macro lens and your small and large rings, could you do a macro photography setup with bright field and dark field illumination options?
I hope to dip my toe in the world of 3D printing sometime in 2023. Though my record for finishing projects on time isn't all that good! Thanks for watching! 👍 🇬🇧
BEST YET, This is the best spindle light I have seen, I have 2x Haas VM3's and a Tormach, If you build them I will buy, Try to make them locally, if its too expensive go offshore but assemble them yourself........................
Hi Matt, like you I've got lots of paused projects, and guess what.... one of them is a ring light for my mill! It's definitely one I need to get on with, as I'm always having to correct the lighting in mill shots in post. I really enjoy the way you put your videos together, very inspiring.
All Hail the Algorithm for bringing me here for this! I’ve been toying around with ideas for how to do the same thing for my RF-31 since it’s down for a rebuild. Neat trick with the headlight ring.
Brilliant video. You are one of my top channels, and I love it when you put a new vid out. Careful filming and narration, sharp editing, great workmanship on the machining side and it even strays into one of my other obsessions: electronics. What more could anyone want? Thanks for the video mate 👍
One trick I've seen in watercooling community for bending pipes without kinking was to insert a non-compressible but flexible material, e.g. silicone rod in case with clear plastic tubes. Apparently that works.
Beautiful work! I just made a work light for my mill a couple of weeks ago but not as fancy as yours. I just took some aluminum angle profile on three sides of the head and a LED-strip in it.
Another trick for bending small tubing like that w/o collapsing it is to pin it like you did, then fill it with fine sand or something similar. Probably would help to pin the other end afterward and heating like you did would probably make it even easier.
8:19 Name that noise? I've got a couple of them which I hardly ever use but there are times when you really need to feel exactly what your doing n these give the best feedback for the job. I bet you that the vast majority of people have hardly ever used or even seen them in the flesh because everyone's got the latest n greatest versions these days. The last time I used it was for tapping some small holes in a clutch disc.
I must confess that I would probably have made one out of plastic! Much easier to machine. I actually made one from LED strips - several wired in parallel - in a square housing. I just drilled and tapped four holes into the mill's casting. However, I think I might upgrade it to higher brightness LEDs and then I will probably use your dimmer circuit, as it might then be too bright or at least need to be controllable for different materials.
I listen to quite a few podcasts and I can say you would make a wonderful podcast narrator! Give Pushkin Industries a ring They have a lot of quality podcasts and some in dire need of your voice!
yes its sometimes useful to use via's in the mouse bites so you can power the entire panel at once using minimal connections then cut them out. I don't do that cause its sketch as hell but im not making 70 cent LED rings by the thousands in china (we use a bed of nails where each unit is independent of each other, but those are several dollar a unit OEM automotive parts)
Greetings, Divya here with NTD Television. We are one of the world's fastest growing media companies with over 100 million fans and 1 billion monthly video views across all of our social properties. Our motto is truth, hope, and humanity. We love your videos and our editors would like to showcase it by uploading it on some of our social media pages and websites so that our fans can see it. Of course, we are happy to credit your channel clearly to make sure people know how to find you and your videos. You will still hold the exclusive rights to the video. Can we have your permission to do that? Kind regards, Divya
Since the original cover that you replaced was plastic, I would think 3D printing a LED housing in plastic would be a good alternative to machining one.
I hope to dip my toe in the world of 3D printing sometime in 2023. Though my record for finishing projects on time isn't all that good! Thanks for watching! 👍 🇬🇧
I hope to dip my toe in the world of 3D printing sometime in 2023. Though my record for finishing projects on time isn't all that good! Thanks for watching! 👍 🇬🇧
I tried a halo ring on my drill press, and while it was plenty bright, the drill chuck blocked the light at the place you needed it. You show yours with a collet/end mill, how does it work with something larger?
Larger tools do cast a shadow, but I reckon for 70% of the work I do the illumination is better, and for the 30% where it isn't I've still got the gooseneck on hand for extra light, so I'll still call it a win. Thanks for watching! 👍 🇬🇧
Idk. I like the clean work. But I think it is really overengineered, could be done much easier and at some point more versatile. But maybe that’s part of the story on this channel.
Nice job. You may want to check the pH of your black dye. Mine wasn't creating a deep black. It was a sort of green grey. The pH should be around 6.5 and mine was about 8! A few drops of hydrochloric acid bought it back into range and now it works beautifully.
The through hole vias are called "mouse bite". they are put in the tab where the cut out part is still connected to the larger panel during production. They make it possible to (mostly) cleanly break the part out of the panel instead of having to cut it.
My guess as to why there were residual hole plating in the mouse bites is often for cost cutting reasons some board houses plate all holes instead of having a mix of PTH (plated through hole) and NPTH (non-plated through hole). If you drill all your holes at the beginning before plating the holes that need it then you don't need to have drill bits in your milling machine when milling the profiles for final board shape as the final board shape. Makes for a less expensive milling machine for the final step if it only ever needs one tool instead of having a tool changer to swap between the single size milling bit and a variety of differently sized drill bits.
wow. sir, I really appreciate the time you've put into the fantastic camera and audio quality. the high FPS and resolution, crisp and clear audio. first time watching your channel and now subscribed. in one video you've worked intimately with micro electronics, diagrams, machining work on mill and lathe and even metal working and bluing haha. awesome! and to boot some really fine craftsmanship. :)
WAY overkill, stupendous workmanship, a number of disciplines from which I learned quite a few things, great camera work and editing, and narration, and tea making 🙂 When I made the same thing for my 6040 CNC, I used blue foam (My first 3D CNC milling job) and double sided adhesive tape; having a 3D printer now, it would have been straight into SolidWorks, and then 3D printed. But you can be proud of your finished product and its incredible build quality. For my manual mill and manual lathe, drill press and 3D printer, I have found the 30 LED magnetic sewing machine light on a 200mm gooseneck from Amazon for $10 is very flexible, positional and BRIGHT and is the cat's meow.
I hope to dip my toe in the world of 3D printing sometime in 2023. Though my record for finishing projects on time isn't all that good! Thanks for watching! 👍 🇬🇧
@@TheRecreationalMachinist Might I recommend a Creality Ender 3 V2; now my second printer from a very rudimentary unit, and it prints perfectly and reliably right from the start (you do have to assemble it, but very simple, just make sure to adjust it properly; holds adjustment well). WELL worth the price.
An incredibly clean build! I must say I am a bit shocked that its my first time watching one of your videos as their quality are amazing. Thank you for sharing
Lovely professional job as always, much better than "bang 'em out" uploads, the devil is always in the very thoughtfully provided detail, thank you. Could you add an affiliate link for the PAUSED PROJECTS stickers, I could do with a few.
Really like those jigs to work the bolts - not seen that before. I know now from previous videos of yours to keep a notepad handy while I'm watching! Thanks.
I freaking love your video style. The voice is just wonderful. The pace is calm and the editing is lovely. Just waiting for more greatness to come. Thank you for making great videos and inspiring me and others. I wish you all the best. //Olle
The light housing looks like a stock part. Very nice job. I don't know what the obsession is in the UK with replicating gas lamps with LEDs, but finding 6500K lightbulbs in the supermarket or even a hardware shop is a nightmare. The CRI of warm whites is execrable.
I enjoyed your video you should have ground yourself a trepanning tool. It affords much more support to the tool below center by following the radius as seen from the workpiece. You could grind a more narrow trepanning tool to reduce the load and feed with the cross slide to finish to size. The light was grear idea and a great design. Thanks for the video
Really a fantastic work, the video editing Is super, like the sound! I did a similar job 3 years ago on my mini mill SX2, like yours milling machine! At that time i used the BMW type 1 "Angel eyes", that was use for my Bmw type 1 car of 2005 front position lights! ( You know..BMW= Brings More Womans... 😂that was why i bought It!)Do you have a video how to colour alluminum? That's very interesting for me! Super video congratulation! A big ciao from Italy, Alberto 🇮🇹
Thanks for watching Alberto! Great minds think alike! I'm no expert on dyeing aluminium, but what works for me is described here: th-cam.com/video/L2RKze7baJw/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for all the comments!
To those suggesting this job might be better suited to a 3D print, take a look at this short update: th-cam.com/video/X4ctgZKo18g/w-d-xo.html
What a nice, clean build! I especially like how you got into other details besides just machining, like the circuit re-design and anodizing, to get it just how you want. Really neat. This is also my first time watching (not sure why) but your editing and voiceovers are great!
My first time watching too! It instantly reminded me of your channel.
Good to see you here !!
Unbelievably its my first time too!
i sense even more side projects in your videos now :D Love your channel btw
Thanks for dropping by @InheritanceMachining! If I'm ever half the machinist or film maker you are, I'll be very pleased indeed 👍 🇬🇧
@@TheRecreationalMachinist You are very kind... but I have a lot to learn yet. That's the beauty of this trade!
Thanks to your video, I am learning more everyday about machines.
Outstanding material. The content, the filming, the editing, the narrative... Subscribed
This video is superb, the light came out really nice! I would totally buy one if I owned a mill.
Beautiful work, with a nice attention to detail. I loved the creative presentation.
Thanks for the excellent video. So well done, I didn't feel it was necessary to quick step through any part. I wish I had seen this before I added a ring light to my CNC mill. 🙂
Setting up the milling machine to anything you think is precise... is the ultimate time machine.
So many good and interesting processes and ideas. Yep, this was bonkers over the top attention to detail to get shadow free lighting, but boy this was so full of insights. I love the mistakes that are learning moments. Over the top but nothing is wasted in this educational piece.
Stunning quality productions. Thank you.
Thanks for taking the time to watch 👍 🇬🇧
Paused for 6 years. I can really relate to that. 😊😊😊😊😊
Seriously good job mate. The brass tube is pure class on an already fantastic project!
Right? Everything else was... something I hadn't necessarily thought of, but seemed straightforward/obvious enough. The brass tube, though, I would certainly not have thought of... though now perhaps I will! I love it!
Elegant solutions to problems really nice work as always
You were served up and the title caught my mind. I have just spent 2 days modifying a trailer hitch on the mill. The lighting is behind the tooling. My bandsaw has a light on flex which is also a pain. Do I want new lights? Too right.
As I watched I realized what a quality production you offer. Nicely paced, lovely vocals and lighting, informative. A pleasant change from our usual stateside comrades. I subscribed.
Re tube bending. Filling it with sugar is a nice twist on the other suggestions. You can dissolve it if need be.
Love what you made there! I’d have gone straight to the 3D printer to make the housing but yours is far classier…
I wonder whether, with a macro lens and your small and large rings, could you do a macro photography setup with bright field and dark field illumination options?
I hope to dip my toe in the world of 3D printing sometime in 2023. Though my record for finishing projects on time isn't all that good! Thanks for watching! 👍 🇬🇧
Found your channel just recently and couldn't help but to watch your entire library within a few days. Love your stuff and hope you keep making more!
Beautiful work. Beautiful production quality.
Man, I really love your content: the quality of filming, editing, your calm voice, and the interesting job itself: everything! All first class!
Agree 100%
@@Convolutedtubules Indeed! I could listen to him talk for hours!
Agree. Add some soft instrumental synth-pop and this could How It's Made.
Yes wanted to write something similar but you wrote it much better than I could of
@@bencrosskey3241 wachted some others of his video with some kind of piano back sound, a pur regale
BEST YET, This is the best spindle light I have seen, I have 2x Haas VM3's and a Tormach, If you build them I will buy, Try to make them locally, if its too expensive go offshore but assemble them yourself........................
Stunning and extremely inspiring 👍👍😎👍👍
Hi Matt, like you I've got lots of paused projects, and guess what.... one of them is a ring light for my mill! It's definitely one I need to get on with, as I'm always having to correct the lighting in mill shots in post. I really enjoy the way you put your videos together, very inspiring.
Thanks Olly!
Very clean and professional
A masterful build thorougly performed. Kuodoes.
Exceptional detail to quality!
Real nice job! You inspired me and I’ll add ones to my drill press and mill 😊
Great craftsmanship
Very nicely made part and great production value. Just found a new subscription.
Gorgeous build, looks grand. Now I'm thinking about putting LED ring lights on some of my old sewing machines!
Brilliant! I really want to work on this anodizing process!
All Hail the Algorithm for bringing me here for this! I’ve been toying around with ideas for how to do the same thing for my RF-31 since it’s down for a rebuild. Neat trick with the headlight ring.
Instant subscription! Super cool work man, love it!
I really the 3D cad mixed with reality shots, well done. I have my guesses it would be cool to see how you did that
lights action camera editing timing filmography , spot on.
Excellent work. This is something I've always wanted to do on my mill!
Really well done project!
Just found your channel and subscribed.
Great idea and very well explained. Video is very well done
Brilliant video. You are one of my top channels, and I love it when you put a new vid out. Careful filming and narration, sharp editing, great workmanship on the machining side and it even strays into one of my other obsessions: electronics. What more could anyone want? Thanks for the video mate 👍
Thanks Craig! A nod of approval from someone who I consider to be better at it than me means a lot 👍 🇬🇧
One trick I've seen in watercooling community for bending pipes without kinking was to insert a non-compressible but flexible material, e.g. silicone rod in case with clear plastic tubes. Apparently that works.
Very well engineeered! And I've enjoyed several of your other videos too.
+1 new subscriber for you sir! 😊
You make great videos. Informative and entertaining. And quite the craftsman. Thank you.
Good work. Thanks for video.
I think that switch should be up position when you turn it on.
Beautiful work! I just made a work light for my mill a couple of weeks ago but not as fancy as yours. I just took some aluminum angle profile on three sides of the head and a LED-strip in it.
I have some of those ikea lamps on my mill they are pretty annoying. Lovely job on the ring mount. 😀
Very nice. Love your content. Too bad asking for more might diminish your recreation. So I try to wait patiently.
God! If some parts of your build are half decent, than all of mine’s are 1/1000th decent! Congrats for your dedication
Top-Job, Sir👌
Awesome skills
Nice presentation. I have like installation came out half success. You’ll know what i mean when you use ER holders and boring head.
nice job
Nice job. The only possibily concern is the vibrations from the mill could cause problems to led smd weldings.
Brilliant!
Another trick for bending small tubing like that w/o collapsing it is to pin it like you did, then fill it with fine sand or something similar. Probably would help to pin the other end afterward and heating like you did would probably make it even easier.
8:19 Name that noise?
I've got a couple of them which I hardly ever use but there are times when you really need to feel exactly what your doing n these give the best feedback for the job.
I bet you that the vast majority of people have hardly ever used or even seen them in the flesh because everyone's got the latest n greatest versions these days.
The last time I used it was for tapping some small holes in a clutch disc.
His voice would be perfect for a children's book story telling. Golden.
I must confess that I would probably have made one out of plastic! Much easier to machine. I actually made one from LED strips - several wired in parallel - in a square housing. I just drilled and tapped four holes into the mill's casting. However, I think I might upgrade it to higher brightness LEDs and then I will probably use your dimmer circuit, as it might then be too bright or at least need to be controllable for different materials.
Nice little video. I have the same problem with my janso lights!
I'll subscribe, since you claim to only do a few videos a year!
Ficou ótimo parabéns 👏👏
I listen to quite a few podcasts and I can say you would make a wonderful podcast narrator! Give Pushkin Industries a ring They have a lot of quality podcasts and some in dire need of your voice!
Double sided tape would have been my go to😂
yes its sometimes useful to use via's in the mouse bites so you can power the entire panel at once using minimal connections then cut them out. I don't do that cause its sketch as hell but im not making 70 cent LED rings by the thousands in china (we use a bed of nails where each unit is independent of each other, but those are several dollar a unit OEM automotive parts)
Greetings,
Divya here with NTD Television. We are one of the world's fastest growing media companies with over 100 million fans and 1 billion monthly video views across all of our social properties. Our motto is truth, hope, and humanity.
We love your videos and our editors would like to showcase it by uploading it on some of our social media pages and websites so that our fans can see it. Of course, we are happy to credit your channel clearly to make sure people know how to find you and your videos. You will still hold the exclusive rights to the video.
Can we have your permission to do that?
Kind regards,
Divya
Since the original cover that you replaced was plastic, I would think 3D printing a LED housing in plastic would be a good alternative to machining one.
I hope to dip my toe in the world of 3D printing sometime in 2023. Though my record for finishing projects on time isn't all that good! Thanks for watching! 👍 🇬🇧
The alloy can really mess with the colour. We wanted to anodise 7075 t6 black and it turned out purple.
This part seems like a good candidate for 3d printing, although I understand if it is machined for the sake of machining 🙂
I hope to dip my toe in the world of 3D printing sometime in 2023. Though my record for finishing projects on time isn't all that good! Thanks for watching! 👍 🇬🇧
That's a really neat project. Love the attention to detail.
Is that connector you used for the power supply a mini-xlr?
Search for Binder 719 series. A couple of viewers have asked, so I've added a note to the video description. Thanks for watching! 👍 🇬🇧
@@TheRecreationalMachinist interesting little connector. Thanks a lot!
Have you got any idea of how much it takes to edit videos like this...
I tried a halo ring on my drill press, and while it was plenty bright, the drill chuck blocked the light at the place you needed it. You show yours with a collet/end mill, how does it work with something larger?
Larger tools do cast a shadow, but I reckon for 70% of the work I do the illumination is better, and for the 30% where it isn't I've still got the gooseneck on hand for extra light, so I'll still call it a win. Thanks for watching! 👍 🇬🇧
Idk. I like the clean work. But I think it is really overengineered, could be done much easier and at some point more versatile. But maybe that’s part of the story on this channel.
since the original one was plastic... seems like the easier option would have been to simply draw it up in 15 min and 3d print it out of abs plastic
excellent job! I would have done it with 3D printer I guess maybe faster but then less pleasure as you ;)
I have learned long ago, work lights are like sex, "SIZE MATTERS!"
Instead of just slapping the light on dude started to do rocket science. I LOVE IT😀 very good video and you got a new sub🙂
Nice job. You may want to check the pH of your black dye. Mine wasn't creating a deep black. It was a sort of green grey. The pH should be around 6.5 and mine was about 8! A few drops of hydrochloric acid bought it back into range and now it works beautifully.
Thanks for the tip. I'll bare that in mind for the next job 👍 🇬🇧
So satisfying when you build something and it finishes up looking like it was meant to be there’s all along. Really nice work.
The through hole vias are called "mouse bite". they are put in the tab where the cut out part is still connected to the larger panel during production.
They make it possible to (mostly) cleanly break the part out of the panel instead of having to cut it.
My guess as to why there were residual hole plating in the mouse bites is often for cost cutting reasons some board houses plate all holes instead of having a mix of PTH (plated through hole) and NPTH (non-plated through hole). If you drill all your holes at the beginning before plating the holes that need it then you don't need to have drill bits in your milling machine when milling the profiles for final board shape as the final board shape. Makes for a less expensive milling machine for the final step if it only ever needs one tool instead of having a tool changer to swap between the single size milling bit and a variety of differently sized drill bits.
@Christopher Elliott they were probably used for testing. They leave them in the panel and then test the whole panel at once.
wow. sir, I really appreciate the time you've put into the fantastic camera and audio quality. the high FPS and resolution, crisp and clear audio. first time watching your channel and now subscribed. in one video you've worked intimately with micro electronics, diagrams, machining work on mill and lathe and even metal working and bluing haha. awesome! and to boot some really fine craftsmanship. :)
Excellent video.
I can only imagine how much work and time it took to make it.
Like and Big Thanks
Sometimes it turns into a labour of love 😂 Thanks for your kind words.
@@TheRecreationalMachinist lol.
You're welcome 🙂
"…back in 2016, when this project started…" this is too relatable 🙃
As always very interesting video. 👍
👍👍
You've just got such a nice and calming voice, every video turns into a machining fairy tale (:
You've got some serious skills for a recreational machinist! Very clean!
Brilliantly made. That was a lot of work. Very much the craftsman.
Wow! So many amazing machining channels these days. Top notch 😊 subscribed
WAY overkill, stupendous workmanship, a number of disciplines from which I learned quite a few things, great camera work and editing, and narration, and tea making 🙂
When I made the same thing for my 6040 CNC, I used blue foam (My first 3D CNC milling job) and double sided adhesive tape; having a 3D printer now, it would have been straight into SolidWorks, and then 3D printed. But you can be proud of your finished product and its incredible build quality. For my manual mill and manual lathe, drill press and 3D printer, I have found the 30 LED magnetic sewing machine light on a 200mm gooseneck from Amazon for $10 is very flexible, positional and BRIGHT and is the cat's meow.
I hope to dip my toe in the world of 3D printing sometime in 2023. Though my record for finishing projects on time isn't all that good! Thanks for watching! 👍 🇬🇧
@@TheRecreationalMachinist Might I recommend a Creality Ender 3 V2; now my second printer from a very rudimentary unit, and it prints perfectly and reliably right from the start (you do have to assemble it, but very simple, just make sure to adjust it properly; holds adjustment well). WELL worth the price.
That's the model I was leaning towards, though I've some more research to do before I commit. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Great video. I’ve always wanted to fit a ring onto my spindle. It’s on my actual project list now. thank you for the inspiration.
0:50 Perfect shot, great side by side comparison of light temperature/colour
Art, the work, the craftsmanship, the video, the results
An incredibly clean build! I must say I am a bit shocked that its my first time watching one of your videos as their quality are amazing. Thank you for sharing
Lovely professional job as always, much better than "bang 'em out" uploads, the devil is always in the very thoughtfully provided detail, thank you. Could you add an affiliate link for the PAUSED PROJECTS stickers, I could do with a few.
Really like those jigs to work the bolts - not seen that before. I know now from previous videos of yours to keep a notepad handy while I'm watching! Thanks.
Super awesome video! I might do the same for my little mill!
Oh dear. I think you must be an alien. No mortal man is capable of that complexity 😢
You too have biscuit tins with paused projects.... Thank you for this very enjoyable video. Great finished product.
I freaking love your video style. The voice is just wonderful. The pace is calm and the editing is lovely. Just waiting for more greatness to come. Thank you for making great videos and inspiring me and others. I wish you all the best. //Olle
Thanks for your encouraging words! 👍 🇬🇧
Impressive and elegant!
You are living the dream with that workshop and knowledge.
Wonderfully over engineered. I like it.
The light housing looks like a stock part. Very nice job.
I don't know what the obsession is in the UK with replicating gas lamps with LEDs, but finding 6500K lightbulbs in the supermarket or even a hardware shop is a nightmare. The CRI of warm whites is execrable.
Technically excellent, visually excellent. Just excellently excellent. Just on another level. 😁 Cheers
Thanks Paul! Good to have you along 👍 🇬🇧
I enjoyed your video you should have ground yourself a trepanning tool. It affords much more support to the tool below center by following the radius as seen from the workpiece. You could grind a more narrow trepanning tool to reduce the load and feed with the cross slide to finish to size. The light was grear idea and a great design. Thanks for the video
Really a fantastic work, the video editing Is super, like the sound! I did a similar job 3 years ago on my mini mill SX2, like yours milling machine! At that time i used the BMW type 1 "Angel eyes", that was use for my Bmw type 1 car of 2005 front position lights! ( You know..BMW= Brings More Womans... 😂that was why i bought It!)Do you have a video how to colour alluminum? That's very interesting for me! Super video congratulation! A big ciao from Italy, Alberto 🇮🇹
Thanks for watching Alberto! Great minds think alike! I'm no expert on dyeing aluminium, but what works for me is described here: th-cam.com/video/L2RKze7baJw/w-d-xo.html