@@tammypurvis7307 He is a member of the, "Knights Templar". "So what are the Knights Templar? The following is a quote from the website of a masonic lodge, (also known as freemason), website: “The Knights Templar and the 32nd Degree stand on the same step (level) and await to be called to the illustrious 33rd Degree, the highest step a Mason can achieve, but no more prestigious than the Sublime Degree of a Master Mason.” The freemasons are a secretive, occult organization that has existed for centuries with a tiered hierarchy. The higher up the pyramid its adherents climb, the deeper into the occult they go."
There are obviously flaws in CCM and its artists. But there are for sure artists that are genuine and want to lift up the name of Jesus. that should be our only goal in life. But we will mess up because we are human and are sinners. We need to love each other and lift up the name of Jesus.
"A little leaven..." The devil always uses truth to hide his little lies. The Christian music show I'm with (can't name without permission yet) does not and will not use artists who aren't professing and practicing the faith of His Word; Jesus Christ, and proclaiming the unadulterated truth through music, speech and action. No one should let any "leaven" be allowed to be kneaded into the souls of people.
When i first became a born again Christian years ago ,i listen to and loved keith green, he was a songwriter with his wife Melody, he died in a plane crash at 26 with his 2 kids, so im sure he did not have enough time to fall into corruption, his songs are on utube❤
i wish people who do videos like this try to atleast recommend to us what other singers or songs we can go to.. its like all our chrisitan singers like hillsong bethel music or now mentioned Phil Wickham... then what other singers should we look to.. this is what i feel is wrong with christian preachers.. u try to persuade us to get away from something but don't try to say the alternative to it.... that makes it all the more difficult to us to leave singing the songs of above mentioned people... we already have a shortage on christian singers and on that we have news like this popping up now and then shattering us but then what next? if u trying to teach something learn to show the remedy.... that helps people to cope up better
The last time I checked in Matthew 28:19 says, "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit".
I’m a music guy. Play guitar at church. I’ve been challenged & squeezed on the topic of worship. What it is, what it isn’t, and what is the dividing line for acceptable or not. I sincerely would like to know what music/artists fits your boundaries for acceptable? I find faults in most of these ministries and would love to see something that is promoted as acceptable, honourable and respecting Gods holiness.
@@clintonjameshuddleston-apo9385 not defending it but most of the stuff I play on a Sunday is contemporary. I play by ear and have played hymns. Amazing grace goes back to my guitar beginnings.
@@clintonjameshuddleston-apo9385 What nonsense is that? You think hymns are the only valid songs of worship? What about when we play hymns with good musicians rather than a piano/organ? Is that bad too? The only valid worship is to love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength. What style of music you choose to use is not dictated by God because He really doesn't mind! I can worship God singing 'Crown Him With Many Crowns' and singing something by Matt Redman just as equally.
it is not good to earn click bites on other people mistakes. Phil is anointed musician and if he is invited to Lakewood, why not? He is worshiping Lord. You are good pharisee. Why you wear red hat like you are Fred Durst?
What’s a brother to do? Are there any good options for music for the church? Been struggling with the worship music in church for along time. Also, Are we to stop buying gas, are we to stop buying food, stop purchasing things from Amazon? Cause most if not all of these corporations are definitely anti-Christian
@@JordanRiley Thanks for the reply. Definitely looking forward to that video. But what about the rest of my comment? To me this is where I struggle the most. If we apply the same logic to our worship music, pastors, artists and friends. Shouldn't we do the same in everything? Like when we purchase gas we are definitely fueling the Islamic machine as well as others. I mean most of the things we buy come from china. We all know how they feel about God.
@j-hud8528 they are not the same thing. Going to buy gas from a mormon gas station owner isn't leading you to Hell, but listening to worship music from a false church that twists God's Word will
@@JordanRiley Thank man for the reply. Sorry man I am just trying to wrap my head around all this. So like you said about supporting a Mormon gas station owner isn't sending me to hell but watching a "Christian series" from a Mormon studio is? Or singing songs from these false churches even if the song is biblically sound which still supports them through ccli. How is that any different than buying things from amazon that clearly support things we definitely don't stand for? Sorry brother I'm not trying to start nothing. I'm just trying to put all this in context and serve the Lord better.
@@JordanRiley There are many solid Christian Artists-no; God alone is solid, Christ alone is solid. Just look at Steve Lawson. Theologically sound, but look where he is at this current moment (praying for him). But I strongly believe that God used him to bring many to salvation. God used flawed people to bring forth the Gospel, to bring them to Christ-not the people whom He used. So many examples in the Bible-not to follow the examples of the failures, but to be redirected to God. God alone is Holy.
I appreciate videos like this which do make you more discerning totally but although Phil has had these associations in the past and I'm aware he's still writing songs with ones I stay away from (Steven Furtick for a great example) but Phil himself is one to truly look up to over all these heretical people. He's got a true heart of worship, strong faith, strong biblical knowledge and God definitely uses him for His glory. Phil is a great song writer and worship leader. His concerts are so focused on lifting up the name of Jesus and you can't see a performance aspect from him during in my opinion. He's purely up on that stage to lead Gods people in worship and praise which I adore. As Christians we should be very discerning and put much thought into who we listen to and what though. Anyone who's had heresy linked to their name, be very careful but God can still use people with some twisted views for his Honor and Glory! If the song is biblical and blesses the church, that's what we should be looking for. Stay biblical y'all ❤God bless!
Best songs are with lyrics that quote the Word of God, about God, and speak about reality of being a Christian such as hope, struggle against sin, persecution, chtistian living, etc.
search on YT old recordings from 'john todd (collins)' a christian speaker from 1970-80s (he spoke on evil in christian music & hollyevil & movies & music industries in 1970-80s) john todd (collins) is 100% labeled by society as a liar and fake christian YET everything he said 40+ yrs ago is being re revealed by many many people now saying the same details regarding corruption & evil industries like all music & movie & big people really in charge at the Top yet he's labeled crazy & a liar (like most all genuine truth tellers all get labeled crazy liars) DOVE MUSIC AWARDS 2023 was revealing & shocking makes me really shake my head more now and remembering all that Jonh Todd (collins) said (these are old old rescindings from 1970/80 from a christian speaker named john todd (collins) a former satanic cult leader turned christian) either way - his many stated details make more sense now even more
I've always been conflicted about the fact that these christian artists have to compete with each other as to who sells more records. Who's more popular and such. And the listeners have their favorites. This system is exactly like the world. What do you all think?
I wish our churches would take out the a lot of these praise and worship songs and bring back the old fashioned hymns. You can take a hymn song and have one of the most GLORIOUS services you have ever been in. I have personally experienced it for myself.
I write and sing Gospel songs, and I've been challenging the CCM industry for 20 years. I've witnessed musicians finishing their sets or church appointments, only to retreat to buses or rooms to indulge in drugs and alcohol. I believe Satan uses today's music to mislead, which is why I focus solely on Biblical music.
Thank you. I pray for the Holy Spirit to give me conviction on artists and preachers. So many false outriders and teaching in every single area of service. Thank you for being true.
A church in Kentucky is called Sovereign Grace Church. Their worship team is called "Prayers of the Saints" or just type in Sovereign Grace songs. Their songs are very God-Centered.
I used to listen to all Christain music thinking it all glorified God, even the rock . I listen only to Bibilical scripture put in song now and can feel the presence of the Lord for sure❤
@@1stankazajobrorther, i'd like to encourage you to have a really deep understanding of the gospel first, then how you view and listen is begin to change. It happens naturally, so if i recommended what i listened to but you don't have what i just said, then it's emptiness, those song those lyrics even it is so profound, it's empty cause you don't know the truth first. But if you already have that, then here some of them-> any christ exalting music (hymns), sovereign grace music, matt papa, matt boswell, cityalight, and the gettys(but i'm not quite sure about this cause they collab with false christian). I think that's it. They alone produce so many christ exalting songs. Hope it helps you brother!
The thing that is deceptive about the music is that it sounds soooo stinking good. The lyrics are curated and focused in such a way as to evoke a very powerful emotional response. That's the reason why people who are in its hooks will vociferously defend their favorite "worship" artist. I know, I have been there. I led hundreds of song services with this stuff. It's almost like a drug that people get hooked on.
Totally agree. That's how the enemy works, that's how a lie works...it uses 99% truth to cover 1% lie. It's modeled from the very first interaction between Eve and the serpent in Genesis 3.
What is the problem with that passage at 5:32? I don't understand your problem with that. I am also composing songs, and I understood perfectly what he wanted to say. :) He simply tried to explain his process to people who don't write songs.
I'm the music director at our church, and when I took over from the previous one, I had to pull a lot of well-liked Phil Wickham songs from rotation that shared copyrights with Bethel and Elevation Church. I didn't realize they were collaborations until I had access to the CCLI listings. It was very disappointing.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Lucifer the angel in Heaven the one in charge of what we would now call "music ministry"? If I'm wrong, I do know that the devil does twist doctrine through music.
That's My Pastor you talking about. They were exposed and they pretend like nothing happened. I tried to silence me. But I took My Sword of Spirit and I fought with it. It took me 3 months to wake them up. Eventually after much praying through Scriptures they understood their wrongful actions. When they admitted they were wrong I sent a resignation letter to my Pastor. I am the CHURCH and that is final.
I'M So grateful for God and his CONFIRMATION and may he continue to allow us all to be aware these false Teacher's and there deceitful ways because remember it's not God that lead us astray but the Enemy along with his Agent's so keep close to God and what he speaks always and forever John 16:33 in the mighty name of Jesus Amen
@ well l have reached out to them aren’t we all one church in Christ? I am not making an excuse or exception for them but l rather have brothers and sisters in Christ
I am written off as Crazy what's worse is I have a legitimate diagnosis I am the most shocked to learn that my mom is probably bad at reading people 😭😔😖
@@JordanRileyi have felt this but cant quite communicate why is there a particular reason other than the false doctrine misrepresenting Bible verse or cause i know she endorsed the President i like or at least i think she did it does feel evil when she is on tv in this house but i cant vocalize why its just what it sounds like for the past few days it has felt like Peace ✌️
I lost interest in CCM when a very prominent female artist was asked on a secular talk show if homosexuality was a sin. Her response was, "I don't know." CCM has become just a money making machine by secular music companies. It's sad.
Over a decade ago when going through extremely difficult times I attended 2 separate Meyer women's conferences. He performed at both and most attendees stood and raised hands during his time on stage. Had no idea then about listening to false doctrine teaching and music.😔 Thank God for videos that explain using Scripture & expose these false preachers and musicians.
It's sad how much of "Christian music" is industry centered rather than ministry centered. I've also heard that some famous pop musicians like Katy Perry actually used Christian music platforms as pudding* for fame. *"Pudding" is a reference to the guy who collected pudding, but he didn't do it because of the pudding. He did it to earn airline trips based on the barcodes.
Yeah, for some people it’s easier to make it big in CCM than in secular music as the “fan base” is limited (at first) but already set. No need for touring endless years before gaining some popularity.
Man will disappoint and fail, we need to keep our eyes on Jesus and worship Him in spirit and in truth. Be careful not to shoot our own soldiers. Be discerning and beware of false teaching, but pray for their eyes to be open to truth. And I have not seen any Mormon teaching in The Chosen series. (They apparently used some land in Texas owned by Mormons.) I've personally loved that series. But thank you for being watchful.
I never said i was a biblical expert. I'm just someone Jesus has saved and I am a full time biblical counselor and I make videos to expose false teachers and point people to Jesus and the Word of God
@StephanieMatthews-j8k I agree Stephanie Luke 6:41-46 NABRE How can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me remove that splinter in your eye,' when you do not even notice the wooden beam in your own eye? You hypocrite! Remove the wooden beam from your eye first; then you will see clearly to remove the splinter in your brother's eye. Before we judge others let's look at our on short comings
You can create your songs of course based on God's word, and not innovated words. God had given us wisdom and knowledge to understand His word. So we'll use it to praise Him and glorify Him in spirit and in truth. Godbless!
I don't listen to much music, but I appreciate your direction on this issue as you expose these musicians, since you, yourself, were a musician as well. I grew up in a church where the old hymns were used, and these are my preference.....and they must be evaluated next to Scripture just the same.
@MadeAtTaylor Yes, I know what you mean. Discernment is needed for the old hymns just as well as the modern songs. It depends on the theological/doctrinal bent of the author of the worded verse.
This issue has always been a concern for me, which is why I've completely removed lyrical music from my life. I do want to ask, however, if you have a list or video of Christian bands that are safe to listen to?
Been listening to his songs for quite some time now but somehow these past few weeks I felt like there's something going on about Phil but when I saw this video post it just solidified the thought I have with him. Thank you. Instant subscribe. I hope and pray that the Holy Spirit touches him and reveals his eyes to the Truth of God's word by Our Lord and King Jesus!
By this video your implying that anyone who supports the chosen is a false Christian? What’s wrong with the chosen? Its made by people who are really passionate about the word of God and are trying to share it in a visual medium, but here you’re painting it as the anti Christs child… the chosen has encouraged me to read my bible, and has gotten me excited about the word of God, it may not be 100% accurate but from the behind the scenes footage it’s clear they are trying their best to portray the sinless Jesus. I feel like doing what your doing is causing more division, controversy and conflict within Christians then good.
He did come to bring division, but he wanted to divide us from the word, not followers of the faith from one another. Jesus even states in his last prayer before he died that he wanted a united church, these are two completely different contexts. Also I have indeed learned to read the bible. But you never actually state why my claim is false, you just tell be the chosen is bad, wait for my next video. I suppose I will wait for the next video, it’s just hard to have an informed discussion on the idea of the chosen being terrible if you have given me no arguments as to why it is.
I figured this video was coming. When I checked out his last album, it mentioned Steven Furtick and I was deeply saddened. However I didn’t know all of what was going on with him before. Hoping and praying he will repent. Are there any solid Christian artists to listen to? I can’t seem to find any. I’m kind of stuck singing old hymns myself and my voice sounds terrible.
The Christian music industry doesn't screen the maturity of the artist and as result there theology and discernment is often dismal. Phil is simply riding the wave of being Christian celebrity. It is not the Jesus Way. Jordan, You know Jesus is clear about young plants (wheat and tares) and to be careful in pulling them up lest you pull up wheat instead.
@@jaybelle1909 look how some market themselves, seems like many already make idols out of themselves and charge same enormous fees as worldly concerts do, does not the Lord state that worshipping the Lord shouldn't be for be done in such manner, Jaybelle? There are some artists that do concerts by donation and try to keep the cost of concerts down. You might look up how Keith Green felt on these matters. He despised that the Christian music field was going in the direction of being an industry instead of a ministry. There does need to be a distinction.
The More of God's Word you read and the more the Word of God renews you... The less of these Artists and their music you listen to... It's true what you are saying sir. The Word of God inside of you opens your eyes up to these things... Like every believer should know that these musicians partner and promote false teachers, just by having the Word of God fill your heart mind and soul, these things are clear as daylight to all believers or should be... 🤷🏻♂️
Some people want to receive a ministration of the Holy Spirit through their favorite worshiper and then they fall into saying... I felt the "holy spirit" at their concerts, how? Are you saying that listening to these songs brings you to the holy spirit? You are very bad, the Holy Spirit is not brought by the songs you listen to. It is brought by your spiritual disposition, your surrender to God from the depths of your heart. It is something individual and independent of external conditions such as listening to such an artist or worshiper.
Appreciate the heads up about Phil Wickham. I am not familiar with the name but do recall hearing that song "This is Amazing Grace" being performed in a church I used to follow online. So glad I left that church! I do have a question though about what actually constitutes worship music. You may want to address this in a future video. The church I mentioned above has a senior pastor who loves thrash metal music and has even been a musician in so-called Christian thrash metal bands. I can't stand thrash metal music. It sounds angry and demonic and the lyrics are screamed and not sung in my opinion. The said pastor above claims that their thrash metal lyrics are Christian and glorify God. How can any music that sounds outright evil and demonic like thrash metal be glorifying God when you can't even make out what they're saying because they are screaming like possessed devils??!!
The problem is that we've allowed the CCM industry into our churches. We're letting musicians with questionable doctrines write our worship music. 20 years ago, "Christian Musicians" still believed some wacky things, but you generally only heard them on the radio or when you bought their CDs. Now, we're singing songs in church written by people not renowned for their unshakeable theology, but rather on their ability to sell records and make money for the record labels. It's our fault that we've allowed the filth from Hillsong, Bethel, Elevation, etc., to make a home in our churches.
Me neither. At least, not the newer songs. My church sings a few CCM songs and I have no room to complain, because I don’t have any say. But if it were up to me, we’d sing some of the CCM from the 90s and early 2000s. (Ron Kenoly, Michael W. Smith)
I have friends who think the Chosen movie is better then the Bible, and that they learn more before the Chosen then they can from Bible,to me the Chosen. mocks God's word . The movie the Chosen is a false doctrine. This type of music is leading people away from God's truth. God help us.
I disagree with you. It is a false teaching and they twist the Biblical Scriptures. That's your choice if to watch a false doctrine. @@jackieferrarimusic
Thanks Jordan for this video and always speaking truth! I need some advice. I’m trying to find a new church and every church I go to uses mostly music from Phil , Elevation, Bethel, Hillsong. Do I bring this up to the worship director? If so how? And if they think I’m crazy or being legalistic do I go find another church? Honestly, I can’t find a biblically sound church who doesn’t play this music. I’m very discouraged that the discernment is flat out missing with church leaders. I remember the video you did on Jack Hibbs when he said just sit there and be quiet and don’t gossip about these artists if the music is blessing someone else. You can’t sing it because of your conscience but don’t rob someone else from it. So do I continue with a church who sings this stuff and sit there even if I bring it up to them and they don’t change? Then is my lack of engaging in the music causing problems for the people around me? I’m so confused on what to do!
@kellymcdonald2572 so if you can I would start by sending an email to the pastor and worship leader to start the discussion and share the truth and your concerns. If they refuse to listen or change their ways you need to move on. Sadly most churches are run like a business and lack discernment or don't care
Hi jorden Riley can you recommend a list of songs or Christian artists to listen to because I could go to a store and buy a cd player and buy the cds of the songs that you recommend that I should listen to i just end up listening to phil wickman shirt songs on a Christian radio 📻 station 🚉 station out here in Oregon because I haven't purchased a cd player yet
Thank you for another great presentation and I'd like to point out that when I heard what you had to say at the 3:34 mark regarding Joyce Mayer, I was particularly reminded of 1 John 1:8-10, which declares this: If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the Truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His Word is not in us. Also, when I think of the way those people come as wolves in sheep's clothing, one thought that often comes to me is the scene from the classic children's story, "Little Red Riding Hood," where Red Riding Hood herself is headed for her grandma's house with her basket of goodies, when suddenly, she hears what appears to be the friendliest voice she has ever heard ask her where she is going, but this voice happens to be that of the big bad wolf and unfortunately, not only does he beat her there, but he eats up grandma.
What a jerk! My only hesitation in saying this, is he will quote the bible Matthew 5 v10+11 and 1Peter 4 v14 - thinking he fits the description. I fear he will receive this admonition from Jesus instead - Matthew 7 v21-23
9:11 OMgosh...okay, so I watched all 3 seasons and I bought 4 shirts from them...and THEM..I found out Dallas was MORON..I felt sick...I THREW THEM ALL OUT in the trash..did not give to good will or anything..I just felt sick....and sad I had not know about this before spending all that money...but the thing that really turned me away from the chosen was an artist being used to paint a portrait of the Jesus 'character' that Johnathan person...and he is Catholic....I was just sick...but, I certainly learned through all my mistakes...
People/Christians today just don't take the time to scout out these deceivers. Before I watched The Chosen....I researched it. After I did so, I didn't have to waste my time . Most movies and series are NOT Biblical. So....I don't watch and I tell others WHY they are wrong etc.
So you don't actually watch these things, you just dismiss them on the words of other people condemning them. Those words you are 'researching' will have been mad by other people doing exactly the same thing! You are not just judgemental, you are worse because you don't even know the stuff you are railing against because you haven't bothered watching them to find out for yourself!
What was so wrong about The Chosen that you didnt watch it. It's spot on with scripture and as far as the filler stuff its filler stuff they don't have a lot to work with in the Bible as far as conversations go, So it is a good thing it is a show but its also a good thing that they do correct scripture scenes.. It's the closest thing we will ever get to actually seeing and living through what they went through and they may just be actors but they are working on Gods word and I dont see how it teaches false doctrines or pulls people away from the Bible. They encourage you to follow along with the episodes from your Bible. So you have a better understanding. But htis is just my discernment of it and what I get from the show and my Bible. have a blessed day :)
Never heard of this guy. All CCM is Godless. Hymans and spiritual songs only. No Power Point. We don''t know how to read music or harmonize. No one sings.
I've listened to Joyce Meyer and found some things that are useful. I think the key is to know your Bible, and to only take to heart that which matches up with it. I personally don't throw the baby out with the bath water, so to speak.
@@JordanRiley but man, Greg laurie. I can't believe he's a false teacher after leading thousands of people to Christ including my pastor who got saved by Greg's preaching the gospel. My pastor is a very gracious loving Christ-like pastor who preach the Biblical gospel.
It would be really helpful to see a video that suggests artists who are still true to scripture. Most of your videos are helpful in showing us who to avoid but only showing that side of the issue can make it challenging. Who do you listen to?
@heathermkdg I'm sorry I can't. No one watches them positive ones and I spend my own time and money to make and produce these and if people don't watch we don't get reimbursed by youtube
Hot news: Christian singers and songwriters and band members are doing nothing wrong by making and selling their music. The worker is worthy of their hire! These people are doing jobs like you and me and in that job they are seeking to provide the church with tools of worship and praise. If you claim they have compromised the Gospel and God's Word then show us EXACTLY what you claim is wrong. Not interested in just your opinion, you need to back it up with clear, in context, examples of things you claim are wrong. So far, I haven't seen that from Riley or any of the other naysayers who claim to be doing the church a favour by criticising other Christians who don't do things their way!
I came across your channel from another "Christian" content creator who was pretty much bashing you. What is interesting, this is the first-time i have seen your videos and i must say, you are spot on. So thanks to what Satan meant to be negative, God turned into a blessing and brought me to your channel to hear the truth.
This stuff is leading almost as many people into error as false teachers IMOP
its sad how many people are losing their minds over this video and are upset. It's like they are so blinded by feelings that they can't see it
Given that the Bible is filled with song lyrics and music I would have to argue that these musicians are teachers.
@@JordanRileyThank you for this one and I want you to tell us about Christmas
@@tammypurvis7307 He is a member of the, "Knights Templar". "So what are the Knights Templar?
The following is a quote from the website of a masonic lodge, (also known as freemason), website:
“The Knights Templar and the 32nd Degree stand on the same step (level) and await to be called to the illustrious 33rd Degree, the highest step a Mason can achieve, but no more prestigious than the Sublime Degree of a Master Mason.”
The freemasons are a secretive, occult organization that has existed for centuries with a tiered hierarchy. The higher up the pyramid its adherents climb, the deeper into the occult they go."
@@hemjoowhat do you think of Chris Tomlin. I Personally think he is singing Gods praises and is true to God at least I hope so, ✝️💜🙏🕊️thank yoim
God is not about religions, but our relationship with him. Phil, Joyce, Steve nor Joel are going to save my soul, but God our savior.
Well put!
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Amen Amen.
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Jesus, specifically. John 5:22
There are obviously flaws in CCM and its artists. But there are for sure artists that are genuine and want to lift up the name of Jesus. that should be our only goal in life. But we will mess up because we are human and are sinners. We need to love each other and lift up the name of Jesus.
"A little leaven..." The devil always uses truth to hide his little lies. The Christian music show I'm with (can't name without permission yet) does not and will not use artists who aren't professing and practicing the faith of His Word; Jesus Christ, and proclaiming the unadulterated truth through music, speech and action. No one should let any "leaven" be allowed to be kneaded into the souls of people.
Brothers and sisters, WAKE UP‼️ THE BIBLE IS THE SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY AND FOREVER‼️ OUR KING IS COMING‼️
We have a new covenant
Thank you
Why judge Gods people when only God is righteous and just ❤. We need to ask God for discernment
We are commanded to judge those in the church
When i first became a born again Christian years ago ,i listen to and loved keith green, he was a songwriter with his wife Melody, he died in a plane crash at 26 with his 2 kids, so im sure he did not have enough time to fall into corruption, his songs are on utube❤
I grew up listening to him as well and still loved his music.
Me too
i wish people who do videos like this try to atleast recommend to us what other singers or songs we can go to.. its like all our chrisitan singers like hillsong bethel music or now mentioned Phil Wickham... then what other singers should we look to.. this is what i feel is wrong with christian preachers.. u try to persuade us to get away from something but don't try to say the alternative to it.... that makes it all the more difficult to us to leave singing the songs of above mentioned people... we already have a shortage on christian singers and on that we have news like this popping up now and then shattering us but then what next? if u trying to teach something learn to show the remedy.... that helps people to cope up better
True!!!
The last time I checked in Matthew 28:19 says, "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit".
I’m a music guy. Play guitar at church. I’ve been challenged & squeezed on the topic of worship. What it is, what it isn’t, and what is the dividing line for acceptable or not.
I sincerely would like to know what music/artists fits your boundaries for acceptable?
I find faults in most of these ministries and would love to see something that is promoted as acceptable, honourable and respecting Gods holiness.
Thank you! I love that perspective. If you feel this is wrong, show me what the right thing is. 💯
You play guitar? Very good, but how many hymns can ya play?
@@clintonjameshuddleston-apo9385 not defending it but most of the stuff I play on a Sunday is contemporary. I play by ear and have played hymns. Amazing grace goes back to my guitar beginnings.
@@JHam18 exactly.. its basically annoying because they say us that something is wrong but don't show us the alternative
@@clintonjameshuddleston-apo9385 What nonsense is that? You think hymns are the only valid songs of worship? What about when we play hymns with good musicians rather than a piano/organ? Is that bad too? The only valid worship is to love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength. What style of music you choose to use is not dictated by God because He really doesn't mind! I can worship God singing 'Crown Him With Many Crowns' and singing something by Matt Redman just as equally.
Discernment is Key
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Amen Satan Masquerades as an angel of light
Jesus is the way
Yes, the only Way!
Amen 🙏
it is not good to earn click bites on other people mistakes. Phil is anointed musician and if he is invited to Lakewood, why not? He is worshiping Lord. You are good pharisee. Why you wear red hat like you are Fred Durst?
Oh the irony, this man himself is a false prophet. I don't see the fruit of the Spirit in him.
What’s a brother to do? Are there any good options for music for the church? Been struggling with the worship music in church for along time. Also, Are we to stop buying gas, are we to stop buying food, stop purchasing things from Amazon? Cause most if not all of these corporations are definitely anti-Christian
I just made a video that comes out next week that will help point you to some great solid Christian Artists
@@JordanRiley Thanks for the reply. Definitely looking forward to that video. But what about the rest of my comment? To me this is where I struggle the most. If we apply the same logic to our worship music, pastors, artists and friends. Shouldn't we do the same in everything? Like when we purchase gas we are definitely fueling the Islamic machine as well as others. I mean most of the things we buy come from china. We all know how they feel about God.
@j-hud8528 they are not the same thing. Going to buy gas from a mormon gas station owner isn't leading you to Hell, but listening to worship music from a false church that twists God's Word will
@@JordanRiley Thank man for the reply. Sorry man I am just trying to wrap my head around all this. So like you said about supporting a Mormon gas station owner isn't sending me to hell but watching a "Christian series" from a Mormon studio is? Or singing songs from these false churches even if the song is biblically sound which still supports them through ccli. How is that any different than buying things from amazon that clearly support things we definitely don't stand for? Sorry brother I'm not trying to start nothing. I'm just trying to put all this in context and serve the Lord better.
@@JordanRiley There are many solid Christian Artists-no; God alone is solid, Christ alone is solid. Just look at Steve Lawson. Theologically sound, but look where he is at this current moment (praying for him). But I strongly believe that God used him to bring many to salvation.
God used flawed people to bring forth the Gospel, to bring them to Christ-not the people whom He used. So many examples in the Bible-not to follow the examples of the failures, but to be redirected to God.
God alone is Holy.
I appreciate videos like this which do make you more discerning totally but although Phil has had these associations in the past and I'm aware he's still writing songs with ones I stay away from (Steven Furtick for a great example) but Phil himself is one to truly look up to over all these heretical people. He's got a true heart of worship, strong faith, strong biblical knowledge and God definitely uses him for His glory. Phil is a great song writer and worship leader. His concerts are so focused on lifting up the name of Jesus and you can't see a performance aspect from him during in my opinion. He's purely up on that stage to lead Gods people in worship and praise which I adore. As Christians we should be very discerning and put much thought into who we listen to and what though. Anyone who's had heresy linked to their name, be very careful but God can still use people with some twisted views for his Honor and Glory! If the song is biblical and blesses the church, that's what we should be looking for. Stay biblical y'all ❤God bless!
Guilty by association.
Paul clearly warned us who we fellowship with and even worse who we worship with and endorse them !
Best songs are with lyrics that quote the Word of God, about God, and speak about reality of being a Christian such as hope, struggle against sin, persecution, chtistian living, etc.
I lost hope in CCM when I learned that many of these Christian music labels are owned by secular ones.
search on YT old recordings from 'john todd (collins)'
a christian speaker from 1970-80s
(he spoke on evil in christian music & hollyevil & movies & music industries in 1970-80s)
john todd (collins) is 100% labeled by society as a liar and fake christian
YET
everything he said 40+ yrs ago is being re revealed by many many people now saying the same details regarding corruption & evil industries like all music & movie & big people really in charge at the Top
yet he's labeled crazy & a liar (like most all genuine truth tellers all get labeled crazy liars)
DOVE MUSIC AWARDS 2023 was revealing & shocking
makes me really shake my head more now and remembering all that Jonh Todd (collins) said
(these are old old rescindings from 1970/80 from a christian speaker named john todd (collins) a former satanic cult leader turned christian) either way - his many stated details make more sense now even more
that happend in 1996 cmm was sold in 1996 to Sony BMG
I've always been conflicted about the fact that these christian artists have to compete with each other as to who sells more records. Who's more popular and such. And the listeners have their favorites. This system is exactly like the world. What do you all think?
If we're not where we should be in Christ, we could all be deceived
I wish our churches would take out the a lot of these praise and worship songs and bring back the old fashioned hymns. You can take a hymn song and have one of the most GLORIOUS services you have ever been in. I have personally experienced it for myself.
I'd give anything to hear "The Old Rugged Cross" one Sunday morning soon.
There are churches that do sing hymns and never fell for the con of CCM.
@@jonnosjimnyI’ve gone back listening to the old hymns and yes the old rugged cross is a favourite
Amen, I don't think those songs have a place in church
I love old Christian hymns too. I just listened to How from my foundation ye saints of the Lord.So good! @@jonnosjimny
I write and sing Gospel songs, and I've been challenging the CCM industry for 20 years. I've witnessed musicians finishing their sets or church appointments, only to retreat to buses or rooms to indulge in drugs and alcohol. I believe Satan uses today's music to mislead, which is why I focus solely on Biblical music.
Who was using drugs and alcohol?
How many churches sing goodness of God?
Wow!!!!!!
Thank you. I pray for the Holy Spirit to give me conviction on artists and preachers. So many false outriders and teaching in every single area of service. Thank you for being true.
Name names!
Just out of curiosity, who do y'all recommend that we listen to? Definitely not secular music..... 🤷♀️🤷♀️
@@michellecisneros3191 I put several yellow sticky notes in this video of phil saying that my new video on Monday will be about who I recommend
@JordanRiley thank you
@@JordanRileylist of who you recommend?
A church in Kentucky is called Sovereign Grace Church. Their worship team is called "Prayers of the Saints" or just type in Sovereign Grace songs. Their songs are very God-Centered.
I used to listen to all Christain music thinking it all glorified God, even the rock . I listen only to Bibilical scripture put in song now and can feel the presence of the Lord for sure❤
Can you tell me what kind of biblical music do you listen to. I would like to find myself some. Thanx
@@1stankazajobrorther, i'd like to encourage you to have a really deep understanding of the gospel first, then how you view and listen is begin to change. It happens naturally, so if i recommended what i listened to but you don't have what i just said, then it's emptiness, those song those lyrics even it is so profound, it's empty cause you don't know the truth first. But if you already have that, then here some of them-> any christ exalting music (hymns), sovereign grace music, matt papa, matt boswell, cityalight, and the gettys(but i'm not quite sure about this cause they collab with false christian). I think that's it. They alone produce so many christ exalting songs. Hope it helps you brother!
The thing that is deceptive about the music is that it sounds soooo stinking good. The lyrics are curated and focused in such a way as to evoke a very powerful emotional response. That's the reason why people who are in its hooks will vociferously defend their favorite "worship" artist. I know, I have been there. I led hundreds of song services with this stuff. It's almost like a drug that people get hooked on.
Yes also the words are very christianise
Totally agree. That's how the enemy works, that's how a lie works...it uses 99% truth to cover 1% lie. It's modeled from the very first interaction between Eve and the serpent in Genesis 3.
They are using soft rock melodies to draw you in. Most of them can't even sing, they are just talking and all sound the same.
What is the problem with that passage at 5:32? I don't understand your problem with that. I am also composing songs, and I understood perfectly what he wanted to say. :) He simply tried to explain his process to people who don't write songs.
Aah! The praise of men is addictive!
I'm the music director at our church, and when I took over from the previous one, I had to pull a lot of well-liked Phil Wickham songs from rotation that shared copyrights with Bethel and Elevation Church. I didn't realize they were collaborations until I had access to the CCLI listings. It was very disappointing.
Thanks for standing for the truth
Whats your thought on Zach Williams? I did time in prison nd hes music helped me get closer to God...
Jordan does a video on reputable christian artists! Do a search on youtube. I’m going to search for it too. Let you know if I find it…
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Lucifer the angel in Heaven the one in charge of what we would now call "music ministry"? If I'm wrong, I do know that the devil does twist doctrine through music.
Phil Wickham sounded a little like Dolly Parton when you sped up his performance at Lakewood.😂
thats true mehn🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
People don't have knowledge cause they don't know the Scriptures and that also leads to lack of discernment.
Phil Wickham is an amazing Christian and you are a very sad person.
That's My Pastor you talking about. They were exposed and they pretend like nothing happened. I tried to silence me. But I took My Sword of Spirit and I fought with it. It took me 3 months to wake them up. Eventually after much praying through Scriptures they understood their wrongful actions. When they admitted they were wrong I sent a resignation letter to my Pastor. I am the CHURCH and that is final.
I'M So grateful for God and his CONFIRMATION and may he continue to allow us all to be aware these false Teacher's and there deceitful ways because remember it's not God that lead us astray but the Enemy along with his Agent's so keep close to God and what he speaks always and forever John 16:33 in the mighty name of Jesus Amen
My question is did anyone reach out to them and let them know? Matthew chapter 18, verses 15 and 16
Please stop!!! Matt 18 :15-20 is about CHURCH DISCIPLINE and only applies to people in the same church. You are wrong
@ well l have reached out to them aren’t we all one church in Christ? I am not making an excuse or exception for them but l rather have brothers and sisters in Christ
Respectfully may I ask your theological point of view? I’m guessing it’s Reformed…Calvinist? Thanks.
I simply preach God's Word. I didn't even know what calvinism was until a year ago
IMMEDIATE alarm bells when I heard "...Joyce Meyer..."!
Always a huge red flag
Exactly
I am written off as Crazy what's worse is I have a legitimate diagnosis I am the most shocked to learn that my mom is probably bad at reading people 😭😔😖
@peggypenname joyce meyer is one of the most evil people out there
@@JordanRileyi have felt this but cant quite communicate why is there a particular reason other than the false doctrine misrepresenting Bible verse or cause i know she endorsed the President i like or at least i think she did it does feel evil when she is on tv in this house but i cant vocalize why its just what it sounds like for the past few days it has felt like Peace ✌️
I am a worship leader and I am not aware of what he (Phil Wickham) is doing. Thank you for opening my eyes.
Oh the irony, this man himself is a false prophet. I don't see the fruit of the Spirit in him.
I lost interest in CCM when a very prominent female artist was asked on a secular talk show if homosexuality was a sin. Her response was, "I don't know." CCM has become just a money making machine by secular music companies. It's sad.
That was Lauren Dagle
@rosezagrocki Yes, it was.
Who was that.
Lauren is a new kid, listen to people like Cece Winans instead
@cherryblossom15 no please do not. Ce ce is just as bad
Over a decade ago when going through extremely difficult times I attended 2 separate Meyer women's conferences. He performed at both and most attendees stood and raised hands during his time on stage. Had no idea then about listening to false doctrine teaching and music.😔
Thank God for videos that explain using Scripture & expose these false preachers and musicians.
It's sad how much of "Christian music" is industry centered rather than ministry centered. I've also heard that some famous pop musicians like Katy Perry actually used Christian music platforms as pudding* for fame.
*"Pudding" is a reference to the guy who collected pudding, but he didn't do it because of the pudding. He did it to earn airline trips based on the barcodes.
Yeah, for some people it’s easier to make it big in CCM than in secular music as the “fan base” is limited (at first) but already set. No need for touring endless years before gaining some popularity.
@@jaybelle1909 Looking at the Old Testament, making music for God was definitely a ministry and not „just a job like any other“.
Man will disappoint and fail, we need to keep our eyes on Jesus and worship Him in spirit and in truth. Be careful not to shoot our own soldiers. Be discerning and beware of false teaching, but pray for their eyes to be open to truth. And I have not seen any Mormon teaching in The Chosen series. (They apparently used some land in Texas owned by Mormons.) I've personally loved that series. But thank you for being watchful.
@@karlaadams6344 Who’s talking about „The Chosen“?
@@jan_777 He mentioned it in his video.
I went to Keith Greens concert at the Bronco Bowl in Dallas..the power of the Holy Spirit was in that place ..I still listen to his songsr too.
Who is Jordan Riley anyway? I really dont see him as a biblical expert.😢😢😢
I never said i was a biblical expert. I'm just someone Jesus has saved and I am a full time biblical counselor and I make videos to expose false teachers and point people to Jesus and the Word of God
I'll pray for you because you are very judgmental, wow. You are judging all of these peoples' personal relationships with God. That is not your place.
@StephanieMatthews-j8k
I agree Stephanie
Luke 6:41-46 NABRE
How can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me remove that splinter in your eye,' when you do not even notice the wooden beam in your own eye? You hypocrite! Remove the wooden beam from your eye first; then you will see clearly to remove the splinter in your brother's eye.
Before we judge others let's look at our on short comings
So, what are we going to sing to praise and worship God?
You can create your songs of course based on God's word, and not innovated words. God had given us wisdom and knowledge to understand His word. So we'll use it to praise Him and glorify Him in spirit and in truth. Godbless!
I don't listen to much music, but I appreciate your direction on this issue as you expose these musicians, since you, yourself, were a musician as well. I grew up in a church where the old hymns were used, and these are my preference.....and they must be evaluated next to Scripture just the same.
I grew up on hymns as well. I've seen verses in hymns that were not theologically correct, and those verses were not sung because of that.
@MadeAtTaylor Yes, I know what you mean. Discernment is needed for the old hymns just as well as the modern songs. It depends on the theological/doctrinal bent of the author of the worded verse.
Oh the irony, this man himself is a false prophet. I don't see the fruit of the Spirit in him.
This issue has always been a concern for me, which is why I've completely removed lyrical music from my life. I do want to ask, however, if you have a list or video of Christian bands that are safe to listen to?
Yes i just made a video of ones i recommend
Been listening to his songs for quite some time now but somehow these past few weeks I felt like there's something going on about Phil but when I saw this video post it just solidified the thought I have with him. Thank you. Instant subscribe. I hope and pray that the Holy Spirit touches him and reveals his eyes to the Truth of God's word by Our Lord and King Jesus!
Oh the irony, this man himself is a false prophet. I don't see the fruit of the Spirit in him.
By this video your implying that anyone who supports the chosen is a false Christian? What’s wrong with the chosen? Its made by people who are really passionate about the word of God and are trying to share it in a visual medium, but here you’re painting it as the anti Christs child… the chosen has encouraged me to read my bible, and has gotten me excited about the word of God, it may not be 100% accurate but from the behind the scenes footage it’s clear they are trying their best to portray the sinless Jesus. I feel like doing what your doing is causing more division, controversy and conflict within Christians then good.
I'm sorry but you're wrong about the chosen. My New video tomorrow will show you why the chosen is so bad
P.S. Jesus came to bring division. Please learn to read the Bible
He did come to bring division, but he wanted to divide us from the word, not followers of the faith from one another. Jesus even states in his last prayer before he died that he wanted a united church, these are two completely different contexts. Also I have indeed learned to read the bible.
But you never actually state why my claim is false, you just tell be the chosen is bad, wait for my next video. I suppose I will wait for the next video, it’s just hard to have an informed discussion on the idea of the chosen being terrible if you have given me no arguments as to why it is.
@entropzia9944 just an FYI I have made 2 full videos about the chosen already on my channel which you are more than welcome to go watch.
If he is bad, 😂😂😂 wish you have seen me before Christ Jesus Saved me
It is sad to see Phil Wickham joined with the false teacher,and false Singers like bethel,Elevation.. wish I called alert him..
I figured this video was coming. When I checked out his last album, it mentioned Steven Furtick and I was deeply saddened. However I didn’t know all of what was going on with him before. Hoping and praying he will repent. Are there any solid Christian artists to listen to? I can’t seem to find any. I’m kind of stuck singing old hymns myself and my voice sounds terrible.
Next weeks video will show who are solid musicians and groups to listen to
@ thank you so much!! I looking forward to it!
How about Don Moen?
@davidsolo0202 no he is not solid
@@JordanRileyWhat about the band North Point Worship? Just curious.
Wow, thank you! I listen to Phil. Thank you for the info. I agree, your truth and associations must line up with the Word of God!!!
The Christian music industry doesn't screen the maturity of the artist and as result there theology and discernment is often dismal. Phil is simply riding the wave of being Christian celebrity. It is not the Jesus Way. Jordan, You know Jesus is clear about young plants (wheat and tares) and to be careful in pulling them up lest you pull up wheat instead.
@graysonbr I'm not pulling up anything I am warning the body of tares
Jude chapter 1 verse 23. God bless you and your family 🙏❤️
@@jaybelle1909 look how some market themselves, seems like many already make idols out of themselves and charge same enormous fees as worldly concerts do, does not the Lord state that worshipping the Lord shouldn't be for be done in such manner, Jaybelle? There are some artists that do concerts by donation and try to keep the cost of concerts down. You might look up how Keith Green felt on these matters. He despised that the Christian music field was going in the direction of being an industry instead of a ministry. There does need to be a distinction.
The More of God's Word you read and the more the Word of God renews you... The less of these Artists and their music you listen to... It's true what you are saying sir.
The Word of God inside of you opens your eyes up to these things... Like every believer should know that these musicians partner and promote false teachers, just by having the Word of God fill your heart mind and soul, these things are clear as daylight to all believers or should be... 🤷🏻♂️
How is rejecting someone loving in a biblical way, BUD. You should listen to elevation and bethel there Susy not Phil.
This really breaks my heart. Praying for Phil Wickham.
Some people want to receive a ministration of the Holy Spirit through their favorite worshiper and then they fall into saying... I felt the "holy spirit" at their concerts, how? Are you saying that listening to these songs brings you to the holy spirit? You are very bad, the Holy Spirit is not brought by the songs you listen to. It is brought by your spiritual disposition, your surrender to God from the depths of your heart. It is something individual and independent of external conditions such as listening to such an artist or worshiper.
For Christ has already accomplished the purpose for which the law was given. As a result, all who believe in him are made right with God.
Roman. 10.4
Appreciate the heads up about Phil Wickham. I am not familiar with the name but do recall hearing that song "This is Amazing Grace" being performed in a church I used to follow online. So glad I left that church! I do have a question though about what actually constitutes worship music. You may want to address this in a future video. The church I mentioned above has a senior pastor who loves thrash metal music and has even been a musician in so-called Christian thrash metal bands. I can't stand thrash metal music. It sounds angry and demonic and the lyrics are screamed and not sung in my opinion. The said pastor above claims that their thrash metal lyrics are Christian and glorify God. How can any music that sounds outright evil and demonic like thrash metal be glorifying God when you can't even make out what they're saying because they are screaming like possessed devils??!!
The problem is that we've allowed the CCM industry into our churches. We're letting musicians with questionable doctrines write our worship music. 20 years ago, "Christian Musicians" still believed some wacky things, but you generally only heard them on the radio or when you bought their CDs. Now, we're singing songs in church written by people not renowned for their unshakeable theology, but rather on their ability to sell records and make money for the record labels. It's our fault that we've allowed the filth from Hillsong, Bethel, Elevation, etc., to make a home in our churches.
AMEN!!!!
YES so true, Amen
Very sad I liked some of his song's.. Can't listen to anything anymore..
I do not like to listen to CCM. Sometimes my church plays it and I have complained about it. Thank you Jordan.
Me neither. At least, not the newer songs. My church sings a few CCM songs and I have no room to complain, because I don’t have any say. But if it were up to me, we’d sing some of the CCM from the 90s and early 2000s. (Ron Kenoly, Michael W. Smith)
Yesss ❤
Thank you for the info it all lines up ! My Husband and had been learning a lot about this kind of stuff . I am now learning even more !
Thanks for watching and helping to stand for the truth
And how have you proven his music is wrong?🤔
I have proven that he is a false teacher and he disobeys God's Word and is a false convert so we should avoid him
Where does Bethel say that Jesus is not God, only a man who was right with God?
I have made several videos on that
Your comments were fine until you mentioned Greg Laurie. Then you said nothing. What's wrong with Greg Laurie?
I have made 2 full videos on him. They are on my channel
Just Like Daigle. She is confused if homosexuality is wrong, as the bible says it is.
She isn't confused, she simply doesn't know God or His word.. she is an imposter
I have friends who think the Chosen movie is better then the Bible, and that they learn more before the Chosen then they can from Bible,to me the Chosen. mocks God's word . The movie the Chosen is a false doctrine. This type of music is leading people away from God's truth. God help us.
I disagree with you. It is a false teaching and they twist the Biblical Scriptures. That's your choice if to watch a false doctrine.
@@jackieferrarimusic
I disagree with you it is a false teaching.@@jackieferrarimusic
Thanks Jordan for this video and always speaking truth! I need some advice. I’m trying to find a new church and every church I go to uses mostly music from Phil , Elevation, Bethel, Hillsong. Do I bring this up to the worship director? If so how? And if they think I’m crazy or being legalistic do I go find another church? Honestly, I can’t find a biblically sound church who doesn’t play this music. I’m very discouraged that the discernment is flat out missing with church leaders. I remember the video you did on Jack Hibbs when he said just sit there and be quiet and don’t gossip about these artists if the music is blessing someone else. You can’t sing it because of your conscience but don’t rob someone else from it. So do I continue with a church who sings this stuff and sit there even if I bring it up to them and they don’t change? Then is my lack of engaging in the music causing problems for the people around me? I’m so confused on what to do!
@kellymcdonald2572 so if you can I would start by sending an email to the pastor and worship leader to start the discussion and share the truth and your concerns. If they refuse to listen or change their ways you need to move on. Sadly most churches are run like a business and lack discernment or don't care
Agree with all of these. God bless you! Mabuhay rom the Philippines!
Oh my gosh! I did not know this! Thank you Jordan for this information!
This is the first time I’ve seen you so I’m not sure you’re background. But I have a question: what are your objections to Pastor Greg Laurie?
I've made 2 videos on him and his false teaching
I want to know what years these clips are from
Hi jorden Riley can you recommend a list of songs or Christian artists to listen to because I could go to a store and buy a cd player and buy the cds of the songs that you recommend that I should listen to i just end up listening to phil wickman shirt songs on a Christian radio 📻 station 🚉 station out here in Oregon because I haven't purchased a cd player yet
@@michaelmcvay1180 my new video on Monday will cover that
Yes, Jesus is alive. Just not in The Chosen TV series or in celebrity Christian music.
You better get Cece Winans off that picture 😂😂😂 2:07
Thank you for exposing the lies of Satan.
Thank you for another great presentation and I'd like to point out that when I heard what you had to say at the 3:34 mark regarding Joyce Mayer, I was particularly reminded of 1 John 1:8-10, which declares this:
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the Truth is not in us.
If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His Word is not in us.
Also, when I think of the way those people come as wolves in sheep's clothing, one thought that often comes to me is the scene from the classic children's story, "Little Red Riding Hood," where Red Riding Hood herself is headed for her grandma's house with her basket of goodies, when suddenly, she hears what appears to be the friendliest voice she has ever heard ask her where she is going, but this voice happens to be that of the big bad wolf and unfortunately, not only does he beat her there, but he eats up grandma.
My discernment rader goes off like a Christmas tree whenever I see or hear Phil Wickham… he is so full of himself.
What a jerk!
My only hesitation in saying this, is he will quote the bible Matthew 5 v10+11 and 1Peter 4 v14 - thinking he fits the description.
I fear he will receive this admonition from Jesus instead - Matthew 7 v21-23
Greg Laurie, what!? How is he a false teacher?
I made 2 full videos showing you how false he is
9:11 OMgosh...okay, so I watched all 3 seasons and I bought 4 shirts from them...and THEM..I found out Dallas was MORON..I felt sick...I THREW THEM ALL OUT in the trash..did not give to good will or anything..I just felt sick....and sad I had not know about this before spending all that money...but the thing that really turned me away from the chosen was an artist being used to paint a portrait of the Jesus 'character' that Johnathan person...and he is Catholic....I was just sick...but, I certainly learned through all my mistakes...
People/Christians today just don't take the time to scout out these deceivers. Before I watched The Chosen....I researched it. After I did so, I didn't have to waste my time . Most movies and series are NOT Biblical. So....I don't watch and I tell others WHY they are wrong etc.
Me too
So you don't actually watch these things, you just dismiss them on the words of other people condemning them. Those words you are 'researching' will have been mad by other people doing exactly the same thing! You are not just judgemental, you are worse because you don't even know the stuff you are railing against because you haven't bothered watching them to find out for yourself!
What was so wrong about The Chosen that you didnt watch it. It's spot on with scripture and as far as the filler stuff its filler stuff they don't have a lot to work with in the Bible as far as conversations go, So it is a good thing it is a show but its also a good thing that they do correct scripture scenes.. It's the closest thing we will ever get to actually seeing and living through what they went through and they may just be actors but they are working on Gods word and I dont see how it teaches false doctrines or pulls people away from the Bible. They encourage you to follow along with the episodes from your Bible. So you have a better understanding. But htis is just my discernment of it and what I get from the show and my Bible. have a blessed day :)
I met the guy in that Jesus movie and he isn’t even Christian
How does the Chosen teach a false Jesus?
Go watch the 2 full videos I've made proving it
Never heard of this guy. All CCM is Godless. Hymans and spiritual songs only. No Power Point. We don''t know how to read music or harmonize. No one sings.
I was not deceived. I knew it was a money-grabbing racket from the beginning.
Yikes! What’s wrong with Greg Laurie?😮
Glad my church still sings from a hymnal.
Hey Jordan just wondered what you thought about this TH-cam Channel called Beit Shofarot Messianic Live Steaming?
If could Massage Phil I ll tell him Go back to be serving God on his own.. not hanging out with popular but false believers.
Thank you man. At first I was angry but I finally realized. Thanks!!
So sad , so misled…
I've heard of the false teacher Joyce Meier but never heard of Phil Wickham and have no desire to listen to either one of them! Goodbye!
I've listened to Joyce Meyer and found some things that are useful. I think the key is to know your Bible, and to only take to heart that which matches up with it. I personally don't throw the baby out with the bath water, so to speak.
is Greg laurie considered a false teacher??
Yes he is a false teacher
@@JordanRiley man this is very sad
@@JordanRiley and what about Chris tomlin, is he a false believer?
@kira1722 chris tomlin sadly partners with false teachers. So he is compromising God's Word at the very minimum
@@JordanRiley but man, Greg laurie. I can't believe he's a false teacher after leading thousands of people to Christ including my pastor who got saved by Greg's preaching the gospel. My pastor is a very gracious loving Christ-like pastor who preach the Biblical gospel.
“Gods word…our opinion”. Interesting shirt, please explain.
God's Word over our opinion.
It would be really helpful to see a video that suggests artists who are still true to scripture. Most of your videos are helpful in showing us who to avoid but only showing that side of the issue can make it challenging. Who do you listen to?
If you take a look o already made a few of those including a new one just last week and the thumbnail says recommended
@JordanRiley a playlist of those would help helpful 😊
@@heathermkdg THESE Musical Artists are Solid & Safe to listen to!!!
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@@JordanRiley thank you. Would love to see stuff like this more often. These more positive videos kinda get lost in all the others.
@heathermkdg I'm sorry I can't. No one watches them positive ones and I spend my own time and money to make and produce these and if people don't watch we don't get reimbursed by youtube
I dont listen to music anymore. I listen to podcasts
isn't gossip and slander a sin?
My video is NEITHER. it is warning and exposing. HUGE DIFFERENCE.
its not about God its about money. Whickam isnt the only one, most every Christian musician or band is compromised.
Hot news: Christian singers and songwriters and band members are doing nothing wrong by making and selling their music. The worker is worthy of their hire! These people are doing jobs like you and me and in that job they are seeking to provide the church with tools of worship and praise. If you claim they have compromised the Gospel and God's Word then show us EXACTLY what you claim is wrong. Not interested in just your opinion, you need to back it up with clear, in context, examples of things you claim are wrong. So far, I haven't seen that from Riley or any of the other naysayers who claim to be doing the church a favour by criticising other Christians who don't do things their way!
I came across your channel from another "Christian" content creator who was pretty much bashing you. What is interesting, this is the first-time i have seen your videos and i must say, you are spot on. So thanks to what Satan meant to be negative, God turned into a blessing and brought me to your channel to hear the truth.
You should use the same biblical discernment on music that you'd use on a sermon.