Great info, but if I claim $2,000 of depreciation, it doesn't mean that I am bringing $2,000 to my pocket, so why does the IRS recapture $2,000? Or, will I get my $2,000 as long as I have the receipt?
I can not believe I was able to follow everything you said, only because of the pains you took in explaining this video in way regular joe's like me can understand. Thank you very much !!!
I'm an auditor for a taxing agency. This is one of the best informational videos that I have seen on the subject. I enjoy all of your videos. Keep up the good work.
Did he miss explaining at the end that your taxable income also is a factor in what rate you pay in capital gains taxes? Single 0% rate - $0-$40k income 15% rate - $40k-441,450 income 20% rate - over $441,450 income Married filing joint 0% rate - $0-80k income 15% rate - $80k - $496,600 20% rate - over $496,600
I'm an engineer and I know numbers... but not financial numbers. It seems calculus is easy but accounting is hard. Thanks for the excellent explanation on depreciation and calculating taxes including the depreciation recapture tax. You've made it easy "even for an engineer" to understand.
A-MA-ZING!!! I have been trying to figure this out all day long. Thank you, thank you, thank you! NO ONE has explained it as well as you just did and I get it now 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you so much Brian. Can’t believe my CPA doesn’t explain this to me. I’m selling my rental property and have questions about this topic. You just answer my questions. My CPA would have charge me a zoom meeting to discuss this topic with them.
CPAs didn't go to school to teach accounting, they went to school to apply accounting to the real world. If you want to know, these types of videos and the entire damn internet is at your disposal.
I cannot count how many times I have researched depreciation recapture and tried to understand the posts, blogs, and "tax advice" pages I have visited that "attempt" to explain this tax, and always come up scratching my head a bit and throw in the towel. I can honestly say this is the first time the entire concept of depreciation recapture has crystallized (for the layperson) in my head to the point where I can pick up a calculator and actually attempt to figure it out and feel reasonably okay with my calculations (yet of course I seek tax advice). So again I cannot thank you enough because after selling a property last year I have had so much angst, heartburn, and even lack of sleep about this as tax deadline looms SO close. THANK YOU -THANK YOU -THANK YOU from a "new" subscriber :) PS. My tax advisor stated that acquisition closing costs are usually not included in the basis, but he did not seem very confident of his statement about the acquisition closing costs. So I may be contacting you :)
My son and I watch your current videos almost daily and this goes to show, YOU ARE THE GOAT! Thank you for providing value to us as we grow our tax practice! This was so freaking helpful!
Greay video. Easy to follow and understand. Here is my situation. Purchased our Condo back in 2005 for $128,000. Converted to Rental in 2012 and sold it Jan 2019 for $104,000. We never took the depre expense for those 6yrs. We took the FMV that it was in 2012 at the time of the conversion which came to $54,700 as the cost basis to determine depreciation recapture (54,700/27.5 =1989) 1989x6(yrs)=$11,934 We found closing costs on the sale for $2675, so we added that $54,700 which came to $57,375 no commission which became our Cost basis plus expenses. Then we took $57,375 minus $11,934 (deprec we should have taken) = $45,441 which is our Adjusted Basis. So our total gain is $58,559 (104,000-45,441). So my understanding the first $11,934 deprec recapture will be taxed at 25% and the remaining $46,625 ($58,559-11,934) will be taxed at our Capital gain rate correct? Did we figure this out correctly since we did not take the depr expense at all? And do we put this on Form 4797 Part III section 1245 lines 20 through 25b?
You explained things so that I could easily understand my tax situation when I sell my house. Thanks for putting out a video that people can easily follow.
ClearValue Tax so I will still have to pay CA tax on capital gain? There’s no such thing as CA tax exemption on capital gain? What if I am 100% disabled military retiree? Does that make me exempt? Can you prepare taxes on CA residents?
@@carpediem9718 Hi Carpe Diem, there are many benefits of such situation such as potential of property tax exemptions or paying no taxes on certain pension income in that situation, however, the capital gain income not connected with your service income will not be treated differently in this situation. And yes, we prepare tax returns from people all over country and even out of country.
You truly know your stuff, and is amazing at explaining those complex tax issues in a way that can be so easy to understand. Love these videos. Wish you can be my CPA one day.
Good vid,best explanation so far I have found. A few questions; 1. Sold rental in 2019. Rented for 10yrs, have both HUD statements..what do I do with my rental 1098 interest/insurance? Is it a rental expense or 2nd home or add to basis? 2. If rental expense, can I add things that can't be added to the basis? Utilities, lawn care? Maintenance things awaiting a buyer or tenant 3. You mentioned claim improvement for life of rental? What about repairs made that was not added to depreciation? Dishwasher, new carpet? Thank you
Outstanding video!! You explained it so eloquently in such a short period of time better than my own CPA did! I was able to follow through the entirety of video without any issues. Truly helped so much!!! The part where you said the accumulated depreciation recapture is greater for a long term rental vs one that’s been rented for 1-3 years was the part that helped solidify my decision to go ahead and sell the rental. Well first going to attempt the 1031 but I feel more informed now than I did earlier!
Awesome video! Logically arranged, clearly explained, detailed and well spoken. Voice and mannerisms kept the video interesting until the end. Well Done!
I so understand it the way you explain it, I have the job of explaining that to my brother in law. WOW !!! No wonder I din't choose to be an accountant. Thanks again.
Great explanation. Loved the examples, made it very easy to follow. I will be selling my rental property in 2022, and will use this information to estimate my capital gains tax.
I wonder if you have EA tax class to take, your knowledge and the way you present information are so clear, easy to take in and understand. Please let me know.
@@clearvaluetax9382 Hello, I am Happy you are married...👍👌💟👨👩👧👧 My house Fair market value is $ 240,000. But I Sell it for $ 67,000 to my own brother. So What is the Sale Tax for me... ????
great video, but I wish you would show the numbers on the screen as you discuss them...but I get the gist of it and will certainly rewatch till I got the equation down. Thanks again Brian :)
Thank you for your video. You're the only one that has made me understand how this works. My question is: If you sell for a loss, do you still owe depreciation recapture?
QUICK QUESTION. YOU ADD CLOSING COST ( BUYING AND SELLING) TO COST BASIS... CAN YOU ADD CLOSING COST IF YOU REFI LOAN. SO IT WOULD BE CLOSING COST ( BUYING+SELLING+REFI?) + IMPROVEMENTS..... HELP.... GREAT VIDEO !!!
Thats my question. I refinanced my rental 2 times. So do I add those 2 plus the closing cost of the sell... for a total of 3 closings? Did you ever find an answer?
Marcelo, first of all, you are awesome! Thanks for the support and encouragement, you're a blessing! Yes, I'm going to make a lot more videos this year!
Thank you for this clear explanation about most people are missing and scared to face, the depreciation recapture. My question is where can I find that accumulated depreciation? And where should I put that accumulated depreciation? Should it go to 4797? Which part? I'm using Lacerte.
At 4:44 you mention capturing improvements on your Sched. E., if you write off some or all of the improvements made to the property during that year on Sched. E, , I believe you can't add them to your cost basis at the time of sale...you have to know what is considered to be a repair vs. an improvement. According to the IRS you can only write off a repair on your Sched. E...
Thank you for doing this video. I have been searching for this explanation. Very well done!!! My question is as follows: I am thinking of selling my rental home, but don't know which numbers to utilize for the cost basis and recapture depreciation. The different between the two scenarios, are that one includes the actual building and land depreciation and the other only includes the improvements and HUD 1 Fees. In reviewing the tax returns, to find the depreciation to recapture, I am not sure which number to recapture. Here are two scenarios: (For example) Property Sold - $210,000/ Property Original Purchase $130,000/. which equals $80,000 capital gain. I have two different numbers from tax records and I don't know which numbers to utilize - Scenario #1: (Cost) $29,979 / (Basis) - $29,979 / (Prior Depreciation) - $12,020/ Scenario #2 (Cost) $139,979 - (Basis) $139,979 - (Prior Depreciation) $74,524 - (Future Depreciation) - $65,455. Which scenario do I utilize to determine the tax liability? The first scenario added the $110,000 depreciation on the actual building and land. Would I utilize the first numbers above or the second numbers? Would the numbers be $80,000 (Capital Gain) + $12,020 (recapture) = $92,020 - (Cost) $29,379 = $62,041 (Actual Capital Gain) - $12,020 * 25% = $3005/ and $50,021 * 15% = $7503.15 total tax liablity ($7503.13 +$3005 = $10,508). or Would it be $80,000 (capital gain) - $139,979 (Cost Basis) =(--$59,979) + ($74,541) (Recapture) = ($14,562) (Capital Gains) /($14,562 * 15% = $2184 Tax Liability). Please advise.
Hi Regina, land is not depreciable, just the property. To look up the depreciation recapture, go to Schedule E for all your tax returns that you had this rental and add up the "depreciation expense" for all years. That will give you the accumulated depreciation for this property in order to use as the recapture amount. Some softwares, like professional softwares, will have that accumulated balance on file. However, if your software does not have that accumulated depreciation figure handy, that's the way you would find out the depreciation claimed on the property. The cost basis would be the purchase price of the home and land + improvements + closing expenses on the purchase and sale of the property.
Hii..... i have a quick question .... If i buy a property in 2010 for $500k And rent it for 10 years (2020) My accumulated depriciation is $50k Now i decide to move in my property and claim it as my primary residence and sell it after 24 months (2022) Do i still need to pay tax on depriciation recapture ( $50k) ?? Thank you for the answer and plzzz keep making such informative videos 👍👍
Hi I have questions about deductible items when I purchased a new home. Sorry I know these questions are irrelevant with this video, I just wondered if you have made a video about this. Thank you.
During past 10 years we rented 33% of the home out. And with the improvements we got the 33% depreciation when filing the taxes during the year when the improvement was done. The property was sold last year. We are filing tax return now, the question is: Can we add the total cost of improvements to the cost basis or can we only add (100% - 33%) 67% of the improvement costs to the cost basis. Thank you very much in advance for your answers.
Excellent presentation wish my cpa could have explained as well. Question, in qb can you do your deposit of your ...cash to seller to zero out asset. How do you plug in the re-captured depreciation @25% and the long term capital gains rate of 15%.....or no ???? But how do you show on books ??? Thank you Rob
My big question is improvement. If I had to replace the gutters with a more modern design is that improvement? painting the exterior panels is improvement too? Putting new appliances is also improvement?
Can you create a video on rental income as a passive investor with K-1? How to claim passive income from the K-1 and tax implications when the property refinance or sell the property. Thanks!
Thanks for your detailed explanation. I understand depreciation recapture etc. But how do I translate all of these numbers to form 4797? What forms should be used for 25% of depreciation recapture?
I've had 1 rental property for 33 years.. I doubt I could even find all the paperwork, and records.. so how the heck would I figure out how much I will owe for the sale of my property?
Similar situation here. The closing costs on purchasing isn't that much, especially compared to when selling. But, if you want to find out, I'd go to the county recorder's office and take a look at the deed, mortgage, release of mortgage, etc. on file. These documents may have the title company's information, which may be helpful. If you don't remember the purchase price exactly, the county appraiser (or recorder's office) may have the information.
Hi Brian, excellent video. My case is a bit different, bought my rental at $30k in 2012. Put it for rent a year later and sold it in 12/2019 for $160k. Never did depreciation, TT never mentioned you must do. 1 - what price do I used for depreciation from purchase to sale 2 - what form do I use to enter this info (sale price - cost basis = gain) Thanks
This is an excellent explanation of selling a rental home for a gain. Would it be possible to post a similar video for the unfortunate scenario of selling a rental property for a loss and how that affects depreciation recapture?
That's a very good topic. Yes, I'll have to make that video, good call. You won't be subject to depreciation recapture on a loss. However, please remember that depreciation reduces your cost basis.
Im very simple, but your explanation was well done. I understand your video, but then sometimes selling a rental property you have had for a long time seems like your getting penalized for either depreciating your property over the course of time or selling your property period.
Great video! Can you do a follow up video on strategies to avoid depreciation recapture tax. For example, can you move back into the property, sell it after living in it for 2 years and use the $250k/$500k capital gains deduction to defray some or all of the depreciation recapture?
Hi Sjtola, yes, that is a great video topic! I plan on making a TON of video after tax season this year after April, and I'll definitely put this on my topic sheet. Seriously, great idea... I appreciate it!
Great video, Thanks. How about move back there when I'm older after selling my current primary home (down sizing)? Or give it to my son as gift? Thanks
The depreciation recapture follows you and the property. The way to avoid it is to own it when you die, at which time you will get a basis reset for your heirs.
@@minhvinhtube Depreciation recapture stays with the owner and the property. Gifting it to your son gives him the recapture. You can avoid the recapture if you bequeath it to him; i.e., you die owning it and he is your heir.
Hello and thank you so much for your explanation. I have a question for you . I refinance my rental property with cash out option. Is my cost basis increased ?
Please make a video on this scenario. What happens in the event of a property being your primary residence (long term investment = exclusion) multi family Sch E was never depreciated therefore there’s no cap gain recapture. But you have refinance the property once and the sales price is over $1,000,000. Purchase price is $450k. No major repair, So we are looking at a high cap gain therefore the 1031 exchange is very difficult due to the deadlines rules. Please make a video on this scenario.
I called it difficult bc of the rule on the new purchase to avoid the tax liability. It will be helpful for those in the real estate investing business to learn this because paying taxes is not ideal. Lets just call it deferred taxes are more attractive.
I have a question about the 5043 - RF form that you have to fill out at the close of escrow you have the option of doing this long drawn out taxing process or you can do the sale price withholding amount of 3 1/3% in California. The three and one third tax is a lot less than the long drawn out one. is this a part of what you would pay in the depreciation recapture 25% rate and or the 15% capital gains amount. What happens when you file your income tax at the end of the year? If you haven’t already done this subject in one of your videos I think this would be a really good one to do because this form is a bit different than what you taught in this video which by the way was extremely helpful and I wrote down everything I felt like I was back in real estate school so anyway thank you for this I have subscribed too by the way you have a lot of very good and informative videos
You explain all of this so well! I do have a question about the depreciation component of the cost basis. Is this depreciation that you are subtracting supposed to include the accumulated depreciation of the Improvements? Thank you!
Thx Brian. You are doing a great job. I lived in my property for 5 years and rented it out for less than a year. Now I am considering to sell, how would the costs calculation work out in that case?
it is really great explanation on tax consequences & Depreciation recapture on sale of rental property. But it miss on suspended passive loss carried over for many years from owner, of part rental and part personal use of a residential home, who has salary over $150,000 and has no passive income to offset?. How to release this suspended passive loss when this property is disposed of?
My question is determining the cost basis. If you converted a primary residence to a rental 10 years after the initial purchase of the property, what is the number you would use to calculate the cost basis? Doesn't seem right to use the original purchase price of the property or is it? And how would I factor in the initial purchase closing costs to that number? Thank you.
Hi Fuzzzyyellow, nice name. It's lower of original purchase price or fair market value. The closing costs are from the HUD statement or settlement statement and are AMORTIZED, which really means depreciation of intangible expenses. So when inputting your assets to depreciate in Schedule E. Enter the property as one item and then separately input the closing costs as another item (either under depreciation or amortization). I hope that helps!
One last question. I'm aware of the swap for selling one rental property and buying another. Here is my question...if I take the money from selling and paying off my present mortgage , how does that work ? For one I pay 15 % gain, 25 % recapture, and by paying off my current mortgage I lose any tax shelter. Given this current "pandemic " should I even worry about losing a tax shelter, when I no longer have to worry about being unemployed and not able to pay the mortgage ?
For owner occupied primary residence. How do you add up improvements to a house you live in. Like if I spent $50k fixing it up how do I prove the improvements especially if I did a lot of DIY improvements
Great info. I looked over my Schedule E for the 13 years I rented my property. As it turned out, 6 years the depreciation expense was not taken! Funny thing is that H&R Block did my taxes every year and would advertise about getting you EVERY deduction. So this is about $20,000 in expense never declared, so does that mean it actually will help me during the depreciation recapture?
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Thanks for the info. What about capital losses as it relates to depreciation?
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Great info, but if I claim $2,000 of depreciation, it doesn't mean that I am bringing $2,000 to my pocket, so why does the IRS recapture $2,000? Or, will I get my $2,000 as long as I have the receipt?
I can not believe I was able to follow everything you said, only because of the pains you took in explaining this video in way regular joe's like me can understand. Thank you very much !!!
This was one of our more technical videos!!! If you can follow, that's awesome!
@@clearvaluetax9382 The house fair market value is $240,000, but I Sell it to my brother for $ 67,000.
What is my Sale Tax on this house ??
Very clear. I watched a 2 hour video last night and fell asleep still not understanding! Thank you !
I'm an auditor for a taxing agency. This is one of the best informational videos that I have seen on the subject. I enjoy all of your videos. Keep up the good work.
Did he miss explaining at the end that your taxable income also is a factor in what rate you pay in capital gains taxes?
Single
0% rate - $0-$40k income
15% rate - $40k-441,450 income
20% rate - over $441,450 income
Married filing joint
0% rate - $0-80k income
15% rate - $80k - $496,600
20% rate - over $496,600
I'm an engineer and I know numbers... but not financial numbers. It seems calculus is easy but accounting is hard. Thanks for the excellent explanation on depreciation and calculating taxes including the depreciation recapture tax. You've made it easy "even for an engineer" to understand.
A-MA-ZING!!! I have been trying to figure this out all day long. Thank you, thank you, thank you! NO ONE has explained it as well as you just did and I get it now 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you so much Brian. Can’t believe my CPA doesn’t explain this to me. I’m selling my rental property and have questions about this topic. You just answer my questions. My CPA would have charge me a zoom meeting to discuss this topic with them.
CPAs didn't go to school to teach accounting, they went to school to apply accounting to the real world. If you want to know, these types of videos and the entire damn internet is at your disposal.
Yeah, we are really busy. We charge for our time.
Idk how I didn’t find this channel before!
This is the best channel on TH-cam.
I cannot count how many times I have researched depreciation recapture and tried to understand the posts, blogs, and "tax advice" pages I have visited that "attempt" to explain this tax, and always come up scratching my head a bit and throw in the towel. I can honestly say this is the first time the entire concept of depreciation recapture has crystallized (for the layperson) in my head to the point where I can pick up a calculator and actually attempt to figure it out and feel reasonably okay with my calculations (yet of course I seek tax advice). So again I cannot thank you enough because after selling a property last year I have had so much angst, heartburn, and even lack of sleep about this as tax deadline looms SO close. THANK YOU -THANK YOU -THANK YOU from a "new" subscriber :) PS. My tax advisor stated that acquisition closing costs are usually not included in the basis, but he did not seem very confident of his statement about the acquisition closing costs. So I may be contacting you :)
My son and I watch your current videos almost daily and this goes to show, YOU ARE THE GOAT! Thank you for providing value to us as we grow our tax practice! This was so freaking helpful!
FINALLY!!! Someone who explained it clearly and wasn't all over the place.
Greay video. Easy to follow and understand. Here is my situation. Purchased our Condo back in 2005 for $128,000. Converted to Rental in 2012 and sold it Jan 2019 for $104,000. We never took the depre expense for those 6yrs. We took the FMV that it was in 2012 at the time of the conversion which came to $54,700 as the cost basis to determine depreciation recapture (54,700/27.5 =1989) 1989x6(yrs)=$11,934
We found closing costs on the sale for $2675, so we added that $54,700 which came to $57,375 no commission which became our Cost basis plus expenses. Then we took $57,375 minus $11,934 (deprec we should have taken) = $45,441 which is our Adjusted Basis. So our total gain is $58,559 (104,000-45,441). So my understanding the first $11,934 deprec recapture will be taxed at 25% and the remaining $46,625 ($58,559-11,934) will be taxed at our Capital gain rate correct? Did we figure this out correctly since we did not take the depr expense at all? And do we put this on Form 4797 Part III section 1245 lines 20 through 25b?
You explained things so that I could easily understand my tax situation when I sell my house.
Thanks for putting out a video that people can easily follow.
Very informative! So basically, accumulated depreciation is taxed at 25% and the rest of the gain is taxed at 15%
25% for depreciation recapture rates. However, if you're making above ~$464K, then your long-term capital gains rates are 20% instead of 15%.
ClearValue Tax so I will still have to pay CA tax on capital gain? There’s no such thing as CA tax exemption on capital gain? What if I am 100% disabled military retiree? Does that make me exempt?
Can you prepare taxes on CA residents?
@@carpediem9718 Hi Carpe Diem, there are many benefits of such situation such as potential of property tax exemptions or paying no taxes on certain pension income in that situation, however, the capital gain income not connected with your service income will not be treated differently in this situation. And yes, we prepare tax returns from people all over country and even out of country.
You truly know your stuff, and is amazing at explaining those complex tax issues in a way that can be so easy to understand. Love these videos. Wish you can be my CPA one day.
This is the best video I have seem on the sale of rental property. Very clearly explained, thank you.....
Good vid,best explanation so far I have found. A few questions;
1. Sold rental in 2019. Rented for 10yrs, have both HUD statements..what do I do with my rental 1098 interest/insurance?
Is it a rental expense or 2nd home or add to basis?
2. If rental expense, can I add things that can't be added to the basis? Utilities, lawn care? Maintenance things awaiting a buyer or tenant
3. You mentioned claim improvement for life of rental? What about repairs made that was not added to depreciation? Dishwasher, new carpet?
Thank you
Outstanding video!! You explained it so eloquently in such a short period of time better than my own CPA did! I was able to follow through the entirety of video without any issues. Truly helped so much!!! The part where you said the accumulated depreciation recapture is greater for a long term rental vs one that’s been rented for 1-3 years was the part that helped solidify my decision to go ahead and sell the rental. Well first going to attempt the 1031 but I feel more informed now than I did earlier!
I love how you explain in detail. I actually learned something. Thank you so much. Kuddo to you to for explaining it very clearly.
Thank you! Best explanation I have found! Appreciate this video!!!
First time i’ve ever understopd depreciation recapture! Thanks!
Awesome video! Logically arranged, clearly explained, detailed and well spoken. Voice and mannerisms kept the video interesting until the end. Well Done!
I was able to understand all you said but I wanted you to fill out forms so I could see what forms you would use.
This helped me better understand the whole basis issue a lot. Much appreciated. Hope you do more of these.
I so understand it the way you explain it, I have the job of explaining that to my brother in law. WOW !!! No wonder I din't choose to be an accountant. Thanks again.
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Awesome! Very clear illustrations and explanations!
Great explanation. Loved the examples, made it very easy to follow.
I will be selling my rental property in 2022, and will use this information to estimate my capital gains tax.
This helped me a lot in trying to learn about 1031 exchange. Thank you and you earned a subscriber.
Awesome, I'm happy to hear it helped. Thanks so much Jackygiant!
Thank you, great explanation of unrecaptured capital gains.
I am learning a lot from you. You are very good! thank you for your time!
I can't thank you enough for all of your videos. They have been VERY informative and you explain it so well. Thank you
Excellent video, going through the example is very helpful. Thanks!
thanks for your video, you explain it well, and easy to understand, like your video
Thank you for your videos.
Thank you Brian. Another great video
Greetings Clear Value Tax, you are awesome Brain, as you answered my questions, I have subscribed and hit the thumbs up button. Thanks for sharing.
I wonder if you have EA tax class to take, your knowledge and the way you present information are so clear, easy to take in and understand. Please let me know.
This is a great video. I'm excited to see more in the future.
Thank you Alexander!
@@clearvaluetax9382 Hello, I am Happy you are married...👍👌💟👨👩👧👧
My house Fair market value is $ 240,000. But I Sell it for $ 67,000 to my own brother.
So What is the Sale Tax for me... ????
great video, but I wish you would show the numbers on the screen as you discuss them...but I get the gist of it and will certainly rewatch till I got the equation down. Thanks again Brian :)
This was broken down so good. Thanks
Thank you for your video. You're the only one that has made me understand how this works. My question is: If you sell for a loss, do you still owe depreciation recapture?
QUICK QUESTION. YOU ADD CLOSING COST ( BUYING AND SELLING) TO COST BASIS... CAN YOU ADD CLOSING COST IF YOU REFI LOAN.
SO IT WOULD BE CLOSING COST ( BUYING+SELLING+REFI?) + IMPROVEMENTS..... HELP.... GREAT VIDEO !!!
Thats my question. I refinanced my rental 2 times. So do I add those 2 plus the closing cost of the sell... for a total of 3 closings?
Did you ever find an answer?
Super helpfull! Thanks so much.
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I will ask you questions when I sell my property sometime this year. I use turbo tax every year thx 😊 🙏
That was an excellent video. Thank you.
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Amazing video! Many doubts solved! Waiting for more videos!
Marcelo, first of all, you are awesome! Thanks for the support and encouragement, you're a blessing! Yes, I'm going to make a lot more videos this year!
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Thank you for this clear explanation about most people are missing and scared to face, the depreciation recapture. My question is where can I find that accumulated depreciation? And where should I put that accumulated depreciation? Should it go to 4797? Which part? I'm using Lacerte.
It was really understandable! Thanks!
At 4:44 you mention capturing improvements on your Sched. E., if you write off some or all of the improvements made to the property during that year on Sched. E, , I believe you can't add them to your cost basis at the time of sale...you have to know what is considered to be a repair vs. an improvement. According to the IRS you can only write off a repair on your Sched. E...
I so love your a proxy in explaing smoothing so complex an making it I can understand it. Keep it up
Thank you for doing this video. I have been searching for this explanation. Very well done!!!
My question is as follows: I am thinking of selling my rental home, but don't know which numbers to utilize for the cost basis and recapture depreciation. The different between the two scenarios, are that one includes the actual building and land depreciation and the other only includes the improvements and HUD 1 Fees. In reviewing the tax returns, to find the depreciation to recapture, I am not sure which number to recapture.
Here are two scenarios: (For example)
Property Sold - $210,000/ Property Original Purchase $130,000/. which equals $80,000 capital gain.
I have two different numbers from tax records and I don't know which numbers to utilize -
Scenario #1: (Cost) $29,979 / (Basis) - $29,979 / (Prior Depreciation) - $12,020/
Scenario #2 (Cost) $139,979 - (Basis) $139,979 - (Prior Depreciation) $74,524 - (Future Depreciation) - $65,455.
Which scenario do I utilize to determine the tax liability?
The first scenario added the $110,000 depreciation on the actual building and land. Would I utilize the first numbers above or the second numbers?
Would the numbers be $80,000 (Capital Gain) + $12,020 (recapture) = $92,020 - (Cost) $29,379 = $62,041
(Actual Capital Gain) - $12,020 * 25% = $3005/ and $50,021 * 15% = $7503.15 total tax liablity ($7503.13 +$3005 = $10,508).
or
Would it be $80,000 (capital gain) - $139,979 (Cost Basis) =(--$59,979) + ($74,541) (Recapture) = ($14,562) (Capital Gains) /($14,562 * 15% = $2184 Tax Liability).
Please advise.
Hi Regina, land is not depreciable, just the property. To look up the depreciation recapture, go to Schedule E for all your tax returns that you had this rental and add up the "depreciation expense" for all years. That will give you the accumulated depreciation for this property in order to use as the recapture amount. Some softwares, like professional softwares, will have that accumulated balance on file. However, if your software does not have that accumulated depreciation figure handy, that's the way you would find out the depreciation claimed on the property.
The cost basis would be the purchase price of the home and land + improvements + closing expenses on the purchase and sale of the property.
Hii..... i have a quick question ....
If i buy a property in 2010 for $500k
And rent it for 10 years (2020)
My accumulated depriciation is $50k
Now i decide to move in my property and claim it as my primary residence and sell it after 24 months (2022)
Do i still need to pay tax on depriciation recapture ( $50k) ??
Thank you for the answer and plzzz keep making such informative videos 👍👍
Thanks, very helpful :)
Hi I have questions about deductible items when I purchased a new home. Sorry I know these questions are irrelevant with this video, I just wondered if you have made a video about this. Thank you.
Great Content! Thank you 🙏🏽
Thank you Witness Richness for the feedback and kind words, I appreciate it!
Although I was able to follow I think a white board session would have made this a Home run!!
During past 10 years we rented 33% of the home out. And with the improvements we got the 33% depreciation when filing the taxes during the year when the improvement was done. The property was sold last year. We are filing tax return now, the question is: Can we add the total cost of improvements to the cost basis or can we only add (100% - 33%) 67% of the improvement costs to the cost basis. Thank you very much in advance for your answers.
Excellent presentation wish my cpa could have explained as well.
Question, in qb can you do your deposit of your ...cash to seller to zero out asset. How do you plug in the re-captured depreciation @25% and the long term capital gains rate of 15%.....or no ???? But how do you show on books ???
Thank you
Rob
My big question is improvement. If I had to replace the gutters with a more modern design is that improvement? painting the exterior panels is improvement too? Putting new appliances is also improvement?
Do you have any videos showing how to take the carryover schedule E rental losses against the capital gains of the sale of the rental property?
Can you create a video on rental income as a passive investor with K-1? How to claim passive income from the K-1 and tax implications when the property refinance or sell the property. Thanks!
That's a good idea Trinh, thank you for the suggestion!
Can one choose to simply opt out of using depreciation. Only deduct maintenance. Save improvement receipts for when selling
Thanks for your detailed explanation. I understand depreciation recapture etc. But how do I translate all of these numbers to form 4797? What forms should be used for 25% of depreciation recapture?
Well described!
I've had 1 rental property for 33 years.. I doubt I could even find all the paperwork, and records.. so how the heck would I figure out how much I will owe for the sale of my property?
Similar situation here. The closing costs on purchasing isn't that much, especially compared to when selling. But, if you want to find out, I'd go to the county recorder's office and take a look at the deed, mortgage, release of mortgage, etc. on file. These documents may have the title company's information, which may be helpful. If you don't remember the purchase price exactly, the county appraiser (or recorder's office) may have the information.
Excelent! ✔
Thank you!!
Hi Brian, excellent video.
My case is a bit different, bought my rental at $30k in 2012. Put it for rent a year later and sold it in 12/2019 for $160k. Never did depreciation, TT never mentioned you must do.
1 - what price do I used for depreciation from purchase to sale
2 - what form do I use to enter this info (sale price - cost basis = gain)
Thanks
Don't factor depreciation into your cost basis if you never claimed it on previous returns.
This is an excellent explanation of selling a rental home for a gain. Would it be possible to post a similar video for the unfortunate scenario of selling a rental property for a loss and how that affects depreciation recapture?
That's a very good topic. Yes, I'll have to make that video, good call. You won't be subject to depreciation recapture on a loss. However, please remember that depreciation reduces your cost basis.
Im very simple, but your explanation was well done. I understand your video, but then sometimes selling a rental property you have had for a long time seems like your getting penalized for either depreciating your property over the course of time or selling your property period.
Great video! Can you do a follow up video on strategies to avoid depreciation recapture tax. For example, can you move back into the property, sell it after living in it for 2 years and use the $250k/$500k capital gains deduction to defray some or all of the depreciation recapture?
Hi Sjtola, yes, that is a great video topic! I plan on making a TON of video after tax season this year after April, and I'll definitely put this on my topic sheet. Seriously, great idea... I appreciate it!
@@clearvaluetax9382thanks again, I'm really looking forward to that topic!
Great video, Thanks. How about move back there when I'm older after selling my current primary home (down sizing)? Or give it to my son as gift? Thanks
The depreciation recapture follows you and the property. The way to avoid it is to own it when you die, at which time you will get a basis reset for your heirs.
@@minhvinhtube Depreciation recapture stays with the owner and the property. Gifting it to your son gives him the recapture. You can avoid the recapture if you bequeath it to him; i.e., you die owning it and he is your heir.
Hello and thank you so much for your explanation. I have a question for you . I refinance my rental property with cash out option. Is my cost basis increased ?
Thanks a lot. At 8min 50 sec, did you forget the real estate fees ? the typical 6%.
Can you provide a video about how to Loopholes to avoid depreciation recapture? Thank you!
Please make a video on this scenario. What happens in the event of a property being your primary residence (long term investment = exclusion) multi family Sch E was never depreciated therefore there’s no cap gain recapture. But you have refinance the property once and the sales price is over $1,000,000. Purchase price is $450k. No major repair, So we are looking at a high cap gain therefore the 1031 exchange is very difficult due to the deadlines rules. Please make a video on this scenario.
I called it difficult bc of the rule on the new purchase to avoid the tax liability. It will be helpful for those in the real estate investing business to learn this because paying taxes is not ideal. Lets just call it deferred taxes are more attractive.
I have a question about the 5043 - RF form that you have to fill out at the close of escrow you have the option of doing this long drawn out taxing process or you can do the sale price withholding amount of 3 1/3% in California. The three and one third tax is a lot less than the long drawn out one. is this a part of what you would pay in the depreciation recapture 25% rate and or the 15% capital gains amount. What happens when you file your income tax at the end of the year? If you haven’t already done this subject in one of your videos I think this would be a really good one to do because this form is a bit different than what you taught in this video which by the way was extremely helpful and I wrote down everything I felt like I was back in real estate school so anyway thank you for this I have subscribed too by the way you have a lot of very good and informative videos
You explain all of this so well! I do have a question about the depreciation component of the cost basis. Is this depreciation that you are subtracting supposed to include the accumulated depreciation of the Improvements? Thank you!
good video
I love the video. However, after following the steps to get my net gain I will then need to subtract the remaining balance of my mortgage loan right?
This is really good.
Thx Brian. You are doing a great job. I lived in my property for 5 years and rented it out for less than a year. Now I am considering to sell, how would the costs calculation work out in that case?
awesome content!
Thank you Lianora for the feedback and kind words, I appreciate it!
Great job 👍
it is really great explanation on tax consequences & Depreciation recapture on sale of rental property. But it miss on suspended passive loss carried over for many years from owner, of part rental and part personal use of a residential home, who has salary over $150,000 and has no passive income to offset?. How to release this suspended passive loss when this property is disposed of?
How does refinancing your home play into calculating your cost basis?
Very helpful
Thanks Zach, I appreciate it!
My question is determining the cost basis. If you converted a primary residence to a rental 10 years after the initial purchase of the property, what is the number you would use to calculate the cost basis? Doesn't seem right to use the original purchase price of the property or is it? And how would I factor in the initial purchase closing costs to that number? Thank you.
Hi Fuzzzyyellow, nice name. It's lower of original purchase price or fair market value. The closing costs are from the HUD statement or settlement statement and are AMORTIZED, which really means depreciation of intangible expenses. So when inputting your assets to depreciate in Schedule E. Enter the property as one item and then separately input the closing costs as another item (either under depreciation or amortization). I hope that helps!
@@clearvaluetax9382 Thank you for your answer. I'm afraid the IRS is going to be very happy with my submission this year :-(
One last question. I'm aware of the swap for selling one rental property and buying another. Here is my question...if I take the money from selling and paying off my present mortgage , how does that work ? For one I pay 15 % gain, 25 % recapture, and by paying off my current mortgage I lose any tax shelter. Given this current "pandemic " should I even worry about losing a tax shelter, when I no longer have to worry about being unemployed and not able to pay the mortgage ?
For owner occupied primary residence. How do you add up improvements to a house you live in. Like if I spent $50k fixing it up how do I prove the improvements especially if I did a lot of DIY improvements
I have the same question, looking to rent my primary residence after buying a second home
Nice job!
Ah, a CPA!!!! Then your feedback is extra special to me. Thanks so much James, I appreciate it!
Great info. I looked over my Schedule E for the 13 years I rented my property. As it turned out, 6 years the depreciation expense was not taken! Funny thing is that H&R Block did my taxes every year and would advertise about getting you EVERY deduction. So this is about $20,000 in expense never declared, so does that mean it actually will help me during the depreciation recapture?
Very helpful! Can you claim closing cost of refinancing the loan?