Hang on a sec. We will have to start again as Winston needs to uncover every option and talk to everyone again. Nice 'hospital' pass Thicky Nicky. Winstonn looks pleased about the role. What could go wrong?
@@ytzpilot not the three musketeers more like Larry, Mo and Curly (three stooges). This government is the real form of the metaphor of a clown car on fire flying off a cliff with no hospital at the bottom of it. We should be taking bets on a National 1 term government that is done so much damage to never be voted in again. They seem to set new levels of fail when you thinks it's not poss ible to do worse and are so delusional and disconnected it's like they are from a parallel reality.... Nightmare.
To be clear: the reason Project IRex was as much as it was is because those ports *need* those upgrades. They weren't spending that money for sh*ts and giggles. Hell, the project in Picton had already broken ground when they canned it. Now, the port operators will have to pay for those necessary upgrades, which will be passed on to us in the form of higher port fees and fares for crossings (and will probably cost more, to boot). On top of that, we're going to get smaller, less-future-proof ferries than we would have done, and we'll probably pay more for them, plus we still have to pay god knows how much to Hyundai Heavy in break fees. They'll probably also not be rail-enabled, which means KiwiRail will have to build a rail manufacturing plant in the South Island, as they currently all come over on the Interislander. So tell me, how precisely are we *saving* money? This govt is a disgrace.
So, they are replacing three ferries with two, with a total capacity less than the current three, and the prospect of them being rail enabled is in doubt. Bloody criminal.😪🥵
There are 2 brand new ferries, Spirit of Tasmania IV and V. currently stored in Scotland, available for lease from the Australians who right now cannot use them until upgraded docking facilities are made available in 2027 or later. These ferries are costing the owners $50,000 a week in storage fees ....a perfect quick fix for NZ. These ferries are not Rail equipped.
Why even bother reporting on a "maybe". Willis's option will not be better or cheaper than IRex. The 3 billion for IRex was including the termal upgrades and the rail enabled Hyundai ferries which were individually costed at $500 million, that's what it may cost to break the contract with Hyundai. Willis should resign as Minister of Finance and take ownership of her mistake in canceling the IRex project, it was a big and expensive bad decision made so casually.
I just know you wouldve much preferred to have Cinda and Shitskin still running the country.. you would love to get a jab ever week .. stay home , locked down, and get paid for it ..But some how .. it gave us a massive Bill to pay , (while you was sleeping ).. Just back up and pay attention.. Budget within your means 🤪
Labour promised the ferries at 300 mill, but under Hipkins it slipped all the way to 3 billion. A party of total failure lecturing a party with far more financial responsibility.
@JamesGuarmillo Again, I'm not sure what you mean by financial responsibility. If you mean delivering projects at a cheaper cost and then having to pay more down the road when it's realised that final decision wasn't adequate then that's not financial responsibility, that's cheap mismanagement on the grounds of being shortsighted. Replacing the Ferris alone were never going to cost just 300 million, not at the scale we need. Labour had a program that would not only have delivered larger Ferries that had way more capacity for current and future freight volumes that would have been capable of transporting rail freight using an advanced hybrid engine system, but the program also included the upgrade of the ferry terminals, seismic strengthening and upgrades to the surrounding road and rail infrastructure. Basically it was a project to not only upgrade the current infrastructure but future proof it for growing freight and passenger volumes as well as further investment into the rail network, which explains the inflated prices tag. National are only looking to purchase 2 Ferries that might be rail enabled with the same or less capacity than our current ones and already are projected to cost quite a bit of money, with no upgrades to land infrastructure. That isn't financial responsibility because it's terrible value for money in the long run and that is exactly what NZ has issues with.
How about a rail and freight ferry Wellington to Lyttelton as well as Picton. Save the roads, better for the environment. Very little infrastructure is required. Just an opinion.
KORO is dying he is being forced to agree with the toyota's. LIKE HE SAID, TO NIK , THIS one IS ON YOUR HEAD, WHO'S HEAD EXACTLY NOW. 2029 double handle freight untill then, no train access more double handling after they arrive, wharf up grade and counting!! $$$$$'s
Thank you for the video. You are right it's taking too long. Are they sitting on their hands , Rail is a must to cover the present and future investments in mining and industry. like reefton mines moving 62000 ton on a trains loaded with ore for processing and having the service infrastructure to maintain these operations . With all the local jobs and investors, l wish Mr Peter's the best of luck .
Labour has a much better track record than National. I suggest you stop blindly buying into National Party fact-free fearmongering as they make up Labour's so-called financial mismanagement, cook the books, and hope people like you don't notice how while claiming there is not enough money, managed to find billions for tax cuts to Landlords and their Donors.
And National are no better. They advocated for cost cutting measures and less investment that ended up costing NZ more down the road, hence the infrastructure deficit, housing shortage, poor transport policies and therefore declining productivity, not very financially responsible.
so we are going to reduce our productivity and raise the prices and the reason of the private company to buy 49% to cash in to nz pocketbooks.they will raise the price of every person car and goods that have to cross the straight. the only way for nz to make money as a country is to look at successful countries like China and start building infrastructure for the future, not waste money on stop gap measures for the past needs. the govt needs to control 100% of our essential services and having a private company there to suck profit out of peoples wallets will just introduce a profit motive for several people where we want to have a profit motive for 5 million.
What will happen with the 2 ships being replaced? Can they be used by our pacific island nations? As a doctors, dentist....floating services? Something useful in the pacific
Great savings there Winston and Nationals Nicola! ACT continue to be disruptive but great to see the media and Labour happy to chip in...apparently spending large and faster is better🤣😂Yeah yeah it worked well for you but we the taxpayers and Nicola the kiwi mum can see thru the fast roads with slow potholes! Keep Chippy on, no really keep Chippy TPM's bestie 🤣😂 IF not? BRING BACK CINDY 😂😂😂
So let me get this right. They have taken over one year to make decision to make a decision about a decsion that hasn't yet been made. LOL
National has a concept of a decision 😂
😂😂
Hang on a sec. We will have to start again as Winston needs to uncover every option and talk to everyone again. Nice 'hospital' pass Thicky Nicky. Winstonn looks pleased about the role. What could go wrong?
The three musketeers 😂
@@ytzpilot not the three musketeers more like Larry, Mo and Curly (three stooges). This government is the real form of the metaphor of a clown car on fire flying off a cliff with no hospital at the bottom of it. We should be taking bets on a National 1 term government that is done so much damage to never be voted in again. They seem to set new levels of fail when you thinks it's not poss ible to do worse and are so delusional and disconnected it's like they are from a parallel reality.... Nightmare.
To be clear: the reason Project IRex was as much as it was is because those ports *need* those upgrades. They weren't spending that money for sh*ts and giggles. Hell, the project in Picton had already broken ground when they canned it. Now, the port operators will have to pay for those necessary upgrades, which will be passed on to us in the form of higher port fees and fares for crossings (and will probably cost more, to boot).
On top of that, we're going to get smaller, less-future-proof ferries than we would have done, and we'll probably pay more for them, plus we still have to pay god knows how much to Hyundai Heavy in break fees. They'll probably also not be rail-enabled, which means KiwiRail will have to build a rail manufacturing plant in the South Island, as they currently all come over on the Interislander. So tell me, how precisely are we *saving* money? This govt is a disgrace.
So, they are replacing three ferries with two, with a total capacity less than the current three, and the prospect of them being rail enabled is in doubt. Bloody criminal.😪🥵
Agreed, this is what Luxon calls economic vandalism. What a bunch of amateurs.
There are 2 brand new ferries, Spirit of Tasmania IV and V. currently stored in Scotland, available for lease from the Australians who right now cannot use them until upgraded docking facilities are made available in 2027 or later. These ferries are costing the owners $50,000 a week in storage fees ....a perfect quick fix for NZ. These ferries are not Rail equipped.
Why even bother reporting on a "maybe". Willis's option will not be better or cheaper than IRex. The 3 billion for IRex was including the termal upgrades and the rail enabled Hyundai ferries which were individually costed at $500 million, that's what it may cost to break the contract with Hyundai. Willis should resign as Minister of Finance and take ownership of her mistake in canceling the IRex project, it was a big and expensive bad decision made so casually.
🎉Nicky no boats has passed it on. Seymour at the lifeboat ready to bail. What a joke this government is.
I just know you wouldve much preferred to have Cinda and Shitskin still running the country.. you would love to get a jab ever week .. stay home , locked down, and get paid for it ..But some how .. it gave us a massive Bill to pay , (while you was sleeping ).. Just back up and pay attention.. Budget within your means 🤪
This government is going to keep trying to say it COULD of cost 4 billion. . At 3 billion it was a lot better.
Imagine it still costing 3 billion but with a lot less
Sounds like a dogs dinner they completely stuffed up
Labour promised the ferries at 300 mill, but under Hipkins it slipped all the way to 3 billion. A party of total failure lecturing a party with far more financial responsibility.
@@JamesGuarmillo Not even Nicola Willis believes your nonsense claim.
@JamesGuarmillo Again, I'm not sure what you mean by financial responsibility.
If you mean delivering projects at a cheaper cost and then having to pay more down the road when it's realised that final decision wasn't adequate then that's not financial responsibility, that's cheap mismanagement on the grounds of being shortsighted.
Replacing the Ferris alone were never going to cost just 300 million, not at the scale we need.
Labour had a program that would not only have delivered larger Ferries that had way more capacity for current and future freight volumes that would have been capable of transporting rail freight using an advanced hybrid engine system, but the program also included the upgrade of the ferry terminals, seismic strengthening and upgrades to the surrounding road and rail infrastructure. Basically it was a project to not only upgrade the current infrastructure but future proof it for growing freight and passenger volumes as well as further investment into the rail network, which explains the inflated prices tag.
National are only looking to purchase 2 Ferries that might be rail enabled with the same or less capacity than our current ones and already are projected to cost quite a bit of money, with no upgrades to land infrastructure.
That isn't financial responsibility because it's terrible value for money in the long run and that is exactly what NZ has issues with.
How about a rail and freight ferry Wellington to Lyttelton as well as Picton. Save the roads, better for the environment. Very little infrastructure is required. Just an opinion.
lol oh that patronising attitude! You're sunk, Nicky No Boats 😂
KORO is dying he is being forced to agree with the toyota's. LIKE HE SAID, TO NIK , THIS one IS ON YOUR HEAD, WHO'S HEAD EXACTLY NOW. 2029 double handle freight untill then, no train access more double handling after they arrive, wharf up grade and counting!! $$$$$'s
Even Nicolas Willis doesn't sound like she's drinking the Kool-Aid.
Fletcher have been told to sharpen their pencil as with Whangarei. Once again we taxpayers pull Fletcher out of the shite .
Are we taking bets that the minister for rail will flog off the trains at a discount AGAIN?
Thank you for the video. You are right it's taking too long. Are they sitting on their hands ,
Rail is a must to cover the present and future investments in mining and industry. like reefton mines moving 62000 ton on a trains loaded with ore for processing and having the service infrastructure to maintain these operations .
With all the local jobs and investors, l wish Mr Peter's the best of luck .
Um..."Coalition of Chaos" anyone?
Has anyone noticed all the unalivings that have been happening in new Zealand??..but it's all gravy baby.
Just fix current boats then
Bring on 2026
National offloading blame to Winston so he will be held responsible for closing the South Island rail as mentioned in the 2024 budget.
We needed an upgrade, not a downgrade…
Labour a party with no track record of fiscal responsibility, how on earth can they criticize?
Labour has a much better track record than National.
I suggest you stop blindly buying into National Party fact-free fearmongering as they make up Labour's so-called financial mismanagement, cook the books, and hope people like you don't notice how while claiming there is not enough money, managed to find billions for tax cuts to Landlords and their Donors.
And National are no better. They advocated for cost cutting measures and less investment that ended up costing NZ more down the road, hence the infrastructure deficit, housing shortage, poor transport policies and therefore declining productivity, not very financially responsible.
More bs from this government
so we are going to reduce our productivity and raise the prices and the reason of the private company to buy 49% to cash in to nz pocketbooks.they will raise the price of every person car and goods that have to cross the straight. the only way for nz to make money as a country is to look at successful countries like China and start building infrastructure for the future, not waste money on stop gap measures for the past needs. the govt needs to control 100% of our essential services and having a private company there to suck profit out of peoples wallets will just introduce a profit motive for several people where we want to have a profit motive for 5 million.
Ah yeah it's the same old 'it's all the other guy's fault' mumbo jumbo.
What will happen with the 2 ships being replaced? Can they be used by our pacific island nations? As a doctors, dentist....floating services? Something useful in the pacific
Yeah, right.
Nicky no boat$ palming off the ferries disaster decision onto the lap of steamboat Winnie.
I'm not looking forward to our incoming Tofu Dreg ferries.
pretty snide and unhelpful reporting
The media is so Lame and Fake in NZ .. what what do sheep know 🤣
Great savings there Winston and Nationals Nicola! ACT continue to be disruptive but great to see the media and Labour happy to chip in...apparently spending large and faster is better🤣😂Yeah yeah it worked well for you but we the taxpayers and Nicola the kiwi mum can see thru the fast roads with slow potholes! Keep Chippy on, no really keep Chippy TPM's bestie 🤣😂 IF not? BRING BACK CINDY 😂😂😂
Take some money from South Auckland. u can get a lot from there ... to be honest