Just gotta say, I'M DONE with TV shows ending on a cliffhanger. Each season of The Wire, ends with a solid conclusion. Penguin, ends with a solid conclusion. But this "Season 3 will have S2's conclusive conflict as its first 5 minutes AND THEN start the actual S3 time-skip" shit is a trash trend.
I wanna believe that Squid Game is a prequel to Train to Busan so the reason why Recruiter guy was always too busy with work to meet his daughter is because he was doing stuff like this. (I know he dies but still)
Plus they had a very good reason to pick the lottery ticket. That one piece of bread is simply worth less. I looked up a scratch lottery and there is a 1 in 4 chance of winning €5 or less to a minimum of 2. So even ignoring the bigger prices, the choice is between being slightly less hungry for a bit, or having a decent chance at enough money for more food than that one bit of bread.
The EFAP crew mostly focused on the Recruiter’s wonderful acting in the rock, paper, scissors scene, but I wanted to highlight the excellent storytelling taking place with his two victims. As far as they know, each game they play is a death sentence for the other person if they win. The first time, the boss wins automatically since the lackey doesn’t play anything. The second round, the boss can’t lose if he chooses rock, but he plays the riskier paper and loses to scissors, meaning he tries to win, not draw. The third round, the boss is in the same dominant position but chooses the safer option and wins. In each round, the lackey has been in a weaker position and only won due to the boss’s misplays. The boss is in the driver’s seat the entire match, but he seems unsure of what result he ultimately wants. Once the stakes are raised, it could be argued that the number of draws they start getting is too convenient for raising the dramatic tension, considering they haven’t had one draw prior, but I think it’s possible they are both intuitively choosing the same option they see on the opposing side to force a draw since it’s the only result that keeps them both alive. It only stops when the outcome becomes certain due to a draw being impossible. What I like about the final play is that it could have just as easily been communicated by having the boss intentionally pull away the winning hand, showing that he decisively wanted his close friend to live. Instead, he kept both hands in place, making it ambiguous as to whether he chose to save his friend or simply couldn’t decide in time. Neither character could speak during this scene, so their expressions and reactions communicate everything. All three actors worked very well to make the scene. I also think it’s interesting to consider what would have happened if the Recruiter had won the second game. Would he have let the lackey go for winning the first game or perhaps taken him somewhere? I also wonder how the Recruiter reconciles his games with the Squid Game philosophy of only accepting consenting players. These Russian Roulette games are the only ones we see where players are forced to play, including the Recruiter’s prior games.
I didn’t see the characters as equally interesting. They all exemplified similar archetypes as pre-existing characters. They also didn’t have as much meaning as other characters
This phenomena of splitting Seasons into "parts" is becoming more common and I think it's despicable especially knowing that both parts were filmed back to back, the entirety of season 2 should have been released Arcane Style, 3-4 episodes at a time.
@@Fireice39 The same writers also said that they made this new season mainly for money because Netflix hoarded all the profits and didn’t pay them enough for last season.
For all his craziness, gotta respect Gong Yoo for not cheating when he played Russian Roulette with Master Sol. Because if it was Osha or Mae, I’m sure that they will cheat and the show will somehow portray it as a good thing.
Sorry but it made no sense for master Sol NOT to cheat, he literally didn't cheat for the audience and because he read the script and knew he had plot armor... InUniverse he literally risked killing himself and allowing the games to continue for a stupid dramatic moment...
@@nont18411 Sorry but how was it done well? He literally risked everything just to be stupidly dramatic... Why did he waste his time running around with a gun even if he didn't even bother to draw and use it when he knew there was someone waiting for him? It was as if he read the script and knew roulette scene was coming up, so stupid...
The Front Man sparing Gi Hun are either - Plot armor or - Setting up the evil ending of Gi Hun eventually becomes his replacement as the new Front Man I hope we get the latter. It would mean the show has the absolute balls to end in a bleak note.
@@samwallaceart288 To be fair, I don’t like this kind of dynamic between the hero and the villain. They can’t kill each other because of some bs justification that would prove one another right which will somehow cause more and more innocent people to die.
This reminds me of Treasure of the Sierra Madre. Watch a film about people overcome by greed and certain people say "See, it's anti-capitalist". For Part two, you may want to make a character chart with their names, like when you did HotD. 3:50:00 ICYDK ○ and X are used the way we use ✅ and X.
Their criticism about how do the pink guys know who to shoot and would require feedback over mics is beyond me. Does EFAP realize that they have eyes and can just literally shoot anyone who moves? They know what the game is, they don't need directions or orders... (It's around 3:20:00 in the video)
If this is the case, why spend so much time emphasizing the motion detectors in the dolls eyes? Lining up behind other players is shown to give you additional protection because it hides your movement from the doll, by your logic Thanos should have been shot when he pushed the ppl in front of him because the pink soliders would see him move, they are clearly relying on the doll relaying information to them.
@@Fireice39 True, but do they really need orders to shoot 20 people running away? I am not saying the sensor is unnecessary but when it's obvious that a lot of people are running, they don't need to be called out. It's also a thing where one could be called out as well. Both systems can work together.
yes they have eyes, but also human brains. there is no way they can process 100 people panicking and running all at the same time. just like your human brain isnt processing every angle of the issue here
@@adamantz7682 Ouch! Look, I get the Thanos thing but that's part of the rules of the game. They don't need to shoot him because it was not a single call out. They DO NOT NEED THE SCANNER FOR TWENTY RUNNING PEOPLE. My whole point is that it's dumb for EFAP to say they would need to call out 20 people running when they can see them breaking the rules when the girl is not singing her song. Also, let's not exaggerate, it was 20 people and yes, humans very much can tell people are moving, more so from far away in a brightly lit arena...
@@Necrow_Productions They definitely do not need orders per se, but there is an issue having a two tiered verification system that didn't exist in S1. S1 left it ambagious on how the shootings occurred, the doll having a motion detector and the fact that we do not see any1 handling the guns heavily implies it's an automatic targeting system. This explains why subtle movements like ppl moving their eyes, talking, and Gi-hun's shaking could go undetected. If you introduce the pink soldiers having autonomy on who they can shoot based on what they perceive as movement it changes the whole dynamic of the game. I don't think there is anything wrong with EFAP bringing it up.
Just gotta say, I'M DONE with TV shows ending on a cliffhanger. Each season of The Wire, ends with a solid conclusion. Penguin, ends with a solid conclusion.
But this "Season 3 will have S2's conclusive conflict as its first 5 minutes AND THEN start the actual S3 time-skip" shit is a trash trend.
Completely agree, it's a cheap way to try and retain viewership.
I wanna believe that Squid Game is a prequel to Train to Busan so the reason why Recruiter guy was always too busy with work to meet his daughter is because he was doing stuff like this. (I know he dies but still)
Imma be honest.... they are homeless and hungry. They 100% picked up that bread and ate it as soon as Train to Busan man walked away.
Plus they had a very good reason to pick the lottery ticket. That one piece of bread is simply worth less. I looked up a scratch lottery and there is a 1 in 4 chance of winning €5 or less to a minimum of 2. So even ignoring the bigger prices, the choice is between being slightly less hungry for a bit, or having a decent chance at enough money for more food than that one bit of bread.
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Was funny enough suggested to me by youtube... Probs because they were still life at the point I got it...
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Not sure why Netflix didnt just release Season 2 and 3 together. At least be honest with the audience / fans and call it season 2, part 1.
For anyone in the uk remember Wallace and grommit requires a tv licence.
You'd think the British would have discovered the high seas exist, you know being a maritime power.
The first season was really good as a standalone miniseries so I really hope this doesn't ruin that one.
The EFAP crew mostly focused on the Recruiter’s wonderful acting in the rock, paper, scissors scene, but I wanted to highlight the excellent storytelling taking place with his two victims. As far as they know, each game they play is a death sentence for the other person if they win. The first time, the boss wins automatically since the lackey doesn’t play anything. The second round, the boss can’t lose if he chooses rock, but he plays the riskier paper and loses to scissors, meaning he tries to win, not draw. The third round, the boss is in the same dominant position but chooses the safer option and wins. In each round, the lackey has been in a weaker position and only won due to the boss’s misplays. The boss is in the driver’s seat the entire match, but he seems unsure of what result he ultimately wants.
Once the stakes are raised, it could be argued that the number of draws they start getting is too convenient for raising the dramatic tension, considering they haven’t had one draw prior, but I think it’s possible they are both intuitively choosing the same option they see on the opposing side to force a draw since it’s the only result that keeps them both alive. It only stops when the outcome becomes certain due to a draw being impossible.
What I like about the final play is that it could have just as easily been communicated by having the boss intentionally pull away the winning hand, showing that he decisively wanted his close friend to live. Instead, he kept both hands in place, making it ambiguous as to whether he chose to save his friend or simply couldn’t decide in time. Neither character could speak during this scene, so their expressions and reactions communicate everything. All three actors worked very well to make the scene.
I also think it’s interesting to consider what would have happened if the Recruiter had won the second game. Would he have let the lackey go for winning the first game or perhaps taken him somewhere? I also wonder how the Recruiter reconciles his games with the Squid Game philosophy of only accepting consenting players. These Russian Roulette games are the only ones we see where players are forced to play, including the Recruiter’s prior games.
Fringe Master General
He is the player 001. The “Fringe Man”.
@@nont18411 The "Fringe Meiser"
I think fring master general forgot to send the invitations for my 8th birthday party. That's the reason no one came.
I love when Fringy takes control of the EFAPs
With arcane season 2 vitriol sprinkled in here and there for some seasoning. Most likely well into the future as well.
Definitely felt like a "part 1" of a split season. Left on a cliffhanger with a ton of questions. Good characters again though.
I didn’t see the characters as equally interesting. They all exemplified similar archetypes as pre-existing characters. They also didn’t have as much meaning as other characters
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This phenomena of splitting Seasons into "parts" is becoming more common and I think it's despicable especially knowing that both parts were filmed back to back, the entirety of season 2 should have been released Arcane Style, 3-4 episodes at a time.
Probably because of money
@@nont18411 Which if funny considering how anti-capitalist the writers are based on their comments regarding the show.
@@Fireice39 The same writers also said that they made this new season mainly for money because Netflix hoarded all the profits and didn’t pay them enough for last season.
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Squid Game season 2 was better than House Of The Dragon season 2.
Not a very high bar
For all his craziness, gotta respect Gong Yoo for not cheating when he played Russian Roulette with Master Sol.
Because if it was Osha or Mae, I’m sure that they will cheat and the show will somehow portray it as a good thing.
Sorry but it made no sense for master Sol NOT to cheat, he literally didn't cheat for the audience and because he read the script and knew he had plot armor... InUniverse he literally risked killing himself and allowing the games to continue for a stupid dramatic moment...
@@John21WoW Yeah but at least that scene was plot armor done well, to be fair
@@nont18411 Sorry but how was it done well? He literally risked everything just to be stupidly dramatic... Why did he waste his time running around with a gun even if he didn't even bother to draw and use it when he knew there was someone waiting for him? It was as if he read the script and knew roulette scene was coming up, so stupid...
Metal: *makes mediocre joke*
*waits for pity laugh*
*laughs*
this is so riveting, i can’t tell if my favourite character is gung-ho, or yee-ha
After the disaster that was the latter part of the series I just can't be bothered.
The Front Man sparing Gi Hun are either
- Plot armor or
- Setting up the evil ending of Gi Hun eventually becomes his replacement as the new Front Man
I hope we get the latter. It would mean the show has the absolute balls to end in a bleak note.
Front Man on that "we're not so different, you and I" bullshit for sure
@@samwallaceart288 To be fair, I don’t like this kind of dynamic between the hero and the villain. They can’t kill each other because of some bs justification that would prove one another right which will somehow cause more and more innocent people to die.
@nont18411 or they are gonna force him into the games
@@nont18411 the whole S2 is basically that Russian roulette game; they COULD just kill the bastard, but that would mean "admitting he's got a point".
This reminds me of Treasure of the Sierra Madre. Watch a film about people overcome by greed and certain people say "See, it's anti-capitalist".
For Part two, you may want to make a character chart with their names, like when you did HotD.
3:50:00 ICYDK ○ and X are used the way we use ✅ and X.
Ah yes, only 2 episodes without metal, better get him back on for his pointless comments and cringe jokes and dumb noises
I only watch when Metal is on
Their criticism about how do the pink guys know who to shoot and would require feedback over mics is beyond me. Does EFAP realize that they have eyes and can just literally shoot anyone who moves? They know what the game is, they don't need directions or orders...
(It's around 3:20:00 in the video)
If this is the case, why spend so much time emphasizing the motion detectors in the dolls eyes? Lining up behind other players is shown to give you additional protection because it hides your movement from the doll, by your logic Thanos should have been shot when he pushed the ppl in front of him because the pink soliders would see him move, they are clearly relying on the doll relaying information to them.
@@Fireice39 True, but do they really need orders to shoot 20 people running away? I am not saying the sensor is unnecessary but when it's obvious that a lot of people are running, they don't need to be called out. It's also a thing where one could be called out as well. Both systems can work together.
yes they have eyes, but also human brains. there is no way they can process 100 people panicking and running all at the same time. just like your human brain isnt processing every angle of the issue here
@@adamantz7682 Ouch! Look, I get the Thanos thing but that's part of the rules of the game. They don't need to shoot him because it was not a single call out. They DO NOT NEED THE SCANNER FOR TWENTY RUNNING PEOPLE. My whole point is that it's dumb for EFAP to say they would need to call out 20 people running when they can see them breaking the rules when the girl is not singing her song. Also, let's not exaggerate, it was 20 people and yes, humans very much can tell people are moving, more so from far away in a brightly lit arena...
@@Necrow_Productions They definitely do not need orders per se, but there is an issue having a two tiered verification system that didn't exist in S1. S1 left it ambagious on how the shootings occurred, the doll having a motion detector and the fact that we do not see any1 handling the guns heavily implies it's an automatic targeting system. This explains why subtle movements like ppl moving their eyes, talking, and Gi-hun's shaking could go undetected. If you introduce the pink soldiers having autonomy on who they can shoot based on what they perceive as movement it changes the whole dynamic of the game. I don't think there is anything wrong with EFAP bringing it up.
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