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Mozart is godly. Only Servant with a 50 star bomb and he has a one turn Arts bomb that's nearly as strong as Tamamo's. All for 1 star? Come on.
We’re seriously missing a massive amount of supports here?! Nero Bride, Miyu, Himiko, Jeanne, not to mention Van Gogh and Douman!
Maybe there is a part 2
Some of those would fall into the Sub-Support/Sub-DPS category.
@@otakuelric7782 yeah for example douman and himiko
Don't forget Sherlock
What about batty? That’s a pretty glaring omission to me. She’s probably most players first or second support
So... Himiko, Nero Bride and others got deleted now?
This is a rather unpopular opinion, but I think Tai Gong Wang should classify as a support and a pretty good one at that.
His skill 1 gives the entire party a 15% quick attack up, 15% attack up, and 15% np attack up, this has amazing synergy with ruler skadi as a support as you can not only support your dps servant, but also ruler skadi herself. Even if your team is not a quick team, that's still a 30% attack up. That's pretty good and pretty rare too. Not only that, his skill 3 gives a party wide 20 battery and 30 to himself. He's Helena but better. Not only that, since he can give himself a 50 battery, he can use his np as a damage so you can actually kill with your dps. And that doesn't even compare to how godly he becomes against divine enemies, but they're pretty rare so I won't add it as a pros here, it is however a good bonus.
Overall, use Tai Gong Wang more.
Gonna need a part 2 for the rest of the supports
Hans is criminally low, he gives so much value as a 2 star support, especially for f2p accounts and new players.
Tama and Crane should be A+ Waver and Hans - A.
Merlin and LA are the best supports for CQ and difficult content (along with castoria I mean) . They also complement castoria very well because she can't heal and they are both crucial to their versions of the unkillable comp because of how much charge they give to the party passively with their nps. They should be S no questions asked imo
No that title still goes to castoria who should be in her own tier
@@kristianschuff1723 Absolutely not. She is the best but she isnt a tier above Koyan and Oberon. Especially Oberon.
@@muratticugaratti1571 she is better than them individually yes
I own all three and castoria is far better than them
Castoria over koyan over Oberon
The two of them together might beat her individually in farming but in general content including challenge quest she out performs them
@@kristianschuff1723 I agree but not a tier above them. Putting her a tier above them disrespects them far too much
@@muratticugaratti1571 Castoria is def a tier above Koyan. Oberon is the same tier as her tho, but she is def better than him. Koyan should be in the same tier as SSkadi and OG SKadi is one tier below those two alongside the others like Merlin, Tamamo and LAvalon.
I'm happy with Nightingale's spot
Got my Skadi love her but I still need my Merlin OG version he’s my favorite support to use. Really hope he comes back doesn’t matter if he goes down tiers doesn’t matter how much it cost me. Castoria if she comes back going for her to since I got Space Ishtar.
Besides what peeps said about Umu Bride missing, wouldn't Bartholomew count as support as well? It seems like Lan Ling is missing too and for sure he's support. At least to me this just seems like the usual NP chargers were picked, with some few low rarity ones that some might remember but didn't really go through the entire servant list lol.
Pope Joan doesn't count as support?
is nobukatsu so bad that he's not counted as a support 😅
i think he's ok though
Nobukatsu is a really good crit support because of his stars per turn, and taunt with heal on death. His NP is pretty awkward though. It feels like I can only use it in some "last ditch" push for Nobunaga carry. A situation that never happens since Nobunaga just... Murders.
In my mind I call Waver the caster of extra if there is buster, arts, and quick. Definitely Waver is Extra..
As an Edison main (lol), I can say he is extremely versatile but there's a catch with him: he is a secondary support. Ideally you need someone with some form of healing or hard defense, or a looping factory. He will provide the stars needed for blue teams (it's not much, but it helps) and more importantly he brings up emergency skill cooldown (very valuable) and double OC charge for whatever you need at the moment (higher charge, better stun, strong attack/crit down, more damage etc.)
Very good stuff. That said, I can see why you would put him in C: he needs more work than your typical Infinity stone.
Second post to make it cleaner: you forgot one support and it's Daikokuten.
They have a similar role as Edison, but better IMO. What they don't provide for OC buff, cooldowns or AOE debilitation they make up with healing, evasion, more NP gain AND more stars with her NP. Since they are green, they make a great secondary for Skadi IMO to help her get that NP faster. They also work well with Xu Fu and Edison (it's not an immortal comp though, Xufu will outlive them eventually). I've gathered 70-99 stars by doing absolutely nothing with that team lol
I would say Van Gogh is an A+ Supporter
osakabehime is not a support?
Osakabehime and nero bride ?
I think that, sometimes, Okki's reputation as a solo servant makes people overlook her as a support. Which is a shame, because sure, she's not as good as Skadi in neutrals, but she's still hysterically fun as support for a quick or buster assassin when against riders.
I think that Hans and Asclepius should be higher. Ascelpius A and Hans A+. They are really good supporto as 3* and 2* star, Hans helped me so much back then.
are you joking? in what world is Hans the same tier as Merlin and Waver?
@@trainerred4902 Maybe because Hans is more more accessible for player obtaining him at NP5 it's really easy.
@@trainerred4902Merlin - S Hans - A Waver - A while Asclepius is fine at B.
@@trainerred4902pov: 2 hans>merlin
you can easily get hans if you have a lot of friends point
Where's Miyu?
Why is Skadi above Merlin? I get she can be used for farming but even when she first released as was as good as or slightly worse than him?
Skadi & her Ruler version are still the go-to support for Quick but Merlin has lost his spot as the go-to buster support to Koyan & Oberon. Since the vast majority of the game is farming both Skadi's (especially her Ruler form) are much better in that role than Merlin who isn't really used for faming much at all. Also having a 50% battery is pretty much mandatory for supports these days.
@@izumolee6714 That doesn't change the fact that objectively Pre-Oberon and Koyan Merlin was above Caster Skadi.
IIRC Skadi didn't get any buffs so He should still be above her. If anything having more 50% support should make Skadi's position weaker, not Merlins.
@@datnoob4394keyword “before” we don’t care about the past in these types of games. Merlin got power crept as a buster support by Koyanskya. their playstyles do not synergize well to use together effectively. The skadis work together well and have a good gameplan.
basically the skadis are 5+5= 10 while koyanskya and merlin are water and oil
@@Anthem34 But Merlin didn't get power crept by Caster Skadi?
Hell, if that's the logic, he should be S tier with Himiko because Himiko, Castoria and Merlin is one of the most broken team comps in the game.
Hell, why not put Reines and Morgan as S-tier support since they can sub out Himiko for that team comp as well.
Sure, Skadi might be the top-tier quick support for farming, but Quick is just flat-out not as good as Buster and Arts.
@@izumolee6714 That doesn't change their relative use as a support, though? Hell, Merlin is an essential part of the Himiko, Castoria Merlin invincible team?
Surely Himiko, Reines and Morgan should also be counted as "S-tier supports" by that logic.
Which would bump his back up to S-tier/
What about my pretty Chinese prince Lan Ling?
At least in comparison with the other meta supports, Tamamo has the relative "misfortune" of being a support that doesn't help as much to obliterate a standard 3-wave fight. Many of the ones in A+ and EX tiers provide obscene amounts of firepower, either through np or crit damage buffs, and/or provide targetable batteries, both of which Tamamo lacks.
While she lacks the ability to help in 3T to some extent, Tamamo's niche is there for longer fights with more targeted healing and party-wide cd reduction (which unlike Koyanskaya, doesn't need to worry about cd). Ultimately, it boils down to the kind of fights you're getting into. And well, I can see why people would like min turns; farming is a pain as it is, and you really don't want certain boss fights to drag on.
As for Crane, I think I would've ranked her slightly lower. Crane's key gimmick does require you to use her NP to buff your main dps, which can go really well or really poorly depending on whether you set up the team positions right, as you had mentioned. She's not as "user-friendly" as the other supports in that regard, but there's some fun in figuring out where and when you want the birdie to join the battle.
Where is chiron? 😭
Hey ZTL, can you do a series for each buff (both popular and obscure) and how they work?
With as much charge Tammy gives on her NP, I sadly doubt they'll give her up front charge on a skill. Would I love to see it? Yes. But I still doubt. Sadge
i think lanling is a+ cuz hes hot and he has good buffs
If i got castoria, koyan, merlin, waver, oberon, do i still need tamamo no mae? Im planning to use my ssr tix for other servant, im lacking boss killer.
You need another support arts... so either Tamamo or Proto merlin or Yui.
Wait, where is nero bride 😢?
Where’s Nero bride, Douman and batty?
Castoria No.1 thus I like her~♡!
I personally would bump Lavalon to S and Xu Fu to A+ but it doesn't matter all is good
Wu and cheron
Oberon is the king of all supports
Nah
@@bilirain map 90++ with boss 1M HP say hello
@@Rosemaryalter2711 i get it but u can use it only 1turn
Not king of all supp
King of killing last turn
70% battery,130 % NP damage,yeah,he's king of all supports after all
That's why he is needed for map 90++
@@Rosemaryalter2711 but only 1turn after that sleep
U forget there are 3turns
Miss crane can double np and giving 40atk 60np and dmg 60 np charge/over charge
Great video mate, keep up!!
U forget Lancer support
Where's van Gogh?
Forgot Nero
Martha Ruler?
I used her as a DPS before all the meta characters back in the day. 10/10 would recc for DPS
There’s a lot of support servants missing
Mozart is TOO Underrated, I mean ok, his mana burst is just one turn, but he have Art down+crit chance down and 50 stars bomb (literally a 100% crit chance for yours dps)
Imagine the best case scenario, your single target Art dps have 2 art cards in your shuffle (even one is ok)
Just ONE Castoria (from friends list), Art chain with 2 garanted crit art (or even just one with your main dps as 3th attack)
The Crit HELP A LOT With the loop
My Robin (1 hit Np ladies and gentlemans) CAN LOOP WITH DOUBLE ART CRIT
C'mon this video is so bullshit, mozart deserve to be B at least, compate him with Shakespeare is blasphemy (Shake is the REAL Trash support some idiots on YT dare to say that Shake is worth to use for Newbies players, atrocious)
Same for Hans, comparate him with Florence (aka Worst Merlin and Worst class for a supporter) is a bullshit even bigger than the ome with Mozart
Mozart only really helps gas up 1 turn, and sometimes he just doesnt get hit and becomes a liability. Other supports have multi turn buffs, so even if the buffs are lower, they help the main dps get through multiple break bars compared to Mozart only getting through 1. If you have a taunt CE or are using the Gong he becomes much better though.
@@kazekori9593 Yeah, but 50 stars is still more useful than a non-targetable Invicibility, thats why a rate Mozart higher than Shakespeare, but yeah you has a point, Mozart can gas just one turn and later he can die with a Taunt Ce
But here the thing; Mozart can distract your single target boss with his only presence, if the rng is good you can take few hit and survive longer enough to re-use his skills, especially if his skills are maxed (I use 3 hits Invu Ce on him and help a lot in long fight)
The fact that hans is not EX is kinda... huh.
Yes, hans is definitely EX considering his great support capabilities,cost,and rarity
sus amiright
Tammy no.1 cause I like her
Tammy is very bad for farming but boss fights wise though it's a separate issue.
@uselesshero.official yeah I was making a joke based on what he said in the video
Chad
where's Bunyan?
Nero Bride and Lanling
Chiron, Jane, SantaGale and Nobukatsu
Brunhildr
Boudica (especially now with Draco/Roman CC) and Habetrot
Miyu and Santa Martha
Osakabehime
Jeanne, Sherlock, Himiko, Summer da Vinci and Johanna
Jinako, Douman, Van Gogh
I’d also add Keisuke in there as well but he is exclusively shinsengumi support
Would bunyan count?
What about nero bride, osakabehime, bunyan and robert?
1.Where Himiko and Van gogh and the rest.
2. Hans and Xu fu deserve A+ on account that there are great 3*star supports that basically have 5* star skills. And with u can just use the ce that buffs his buff succes rate
Himiko>Merlin
@@vesta3544 I see u r a man of culture as well
Himiko and okasabehime should be here. Van Gogh is kinda a fine line cause 90% of the time you are gonna be using Van as a quick super Orion.
Would love for Tamamo's second skill to at least give party-wide def, and possibly debuff protection to play into her role for bosses. NP would be cool on that as well either a flat 20 or a party-wide pulse like daVinci's personal one.
did they forgot my girl Osakabehime?
B tier at best. I'm saying this even though she's my second ssr.
You missed Nero bride.
I don't need to watch this vid to know Tamamo is S tier.
Tamamo castoria and BB ready to loop with 3 characters at the same time, I love to Challenge Avengers with this team
good list feels weird to leave out so many supports especially jeanne himiko and mash unless the list is specifically farming supports
Assclapius is B tier until he carries you through a cq/boss fight like an absolute chad. Did some really fun memes with him and Kagekiyo, love that guy
You want to tell me that skadi caster better than Merlin how ??
Farming
You can use skadi for both farming and cq. Merlin really only works in stall cq teams
As ZTL stated both the Skadi's makes their card type that much better, as they are the primary support for Quick. Merlin is no longer the go-to Buster support like he used to be as Koyan & Oberon has taken over that role. Merlin is still good in CQ but since the vast majority of the game is farming he's not really used for that. Also having a 50% battery is pretty much mandatory for supports these days.
@@izumolee6714
I'm a NA player so I don't know koyan & Oberon forget them, Merlin still a solid option his np 25% of np to the team with 20% from his skill and hero creation still a good even that skidi give a quick buff we don't have that much of quick sarvant so Merlin is better
@Shigaraki being a NA player we know what servants are coming to prepare. Very soon we are going to get an abundance of high quality Quick servants. If you want to improve your account having Skadi just makes your farming life easier especially if you are a Quick abuser.
If you are a Buster lover than Koyan & Oberon will be the priority.
Farming nodes will get much more complex & difficult. We don't see it now but NA players will see it soon enough. Lost Belt 6 is no joke.
can u make a looping tier list or like a team guide
I guess part 2 will have bride, lan ling, oskabehime, himeko, Jane, Jeanne, miyu and van Gogh
Keep it clean in the comments than forgets a ton of supports
Proto Merlin do be underrated
Got my Castoria, Waver, Tamamo (with ticket since I couldn’t get Galatea), Skadi, and Koya. Now I just need Oberon, Summer Skadi, and the Merlin’s.
You know what other tier list you missed?, the ce tier list
Is Douman not on this list? I’d honestly consider him a chaotic evil support and a very good one in fact, gives massive crit and attack roids over a three turn duration and a defense down on enemies. He is definitely more niche than most on the list but I would still put him at A or B myself
Double Doman is one of the most fun comps since _everyone_ is a DPS, and as such every crit ends up looking like a war crime.
@@BoopaKing ikr I use double Douman and Kagekiyo to great effect. Works great
Where is Sherlock and Calamity Jane?
Anni servant will be Geronimo Alter. Same skills but on crack
I think Caster Skadi should be one tier lower than Ruler Skadi.
You missed out Nero Bride, Taikobou, RulerVinci, Osakabehime, Bakin and Douman.
The battery alone is enough to keep her as a top tier support
@@ericknunez8069 Wouldn't that make Kuku top tier support then? Coz she also has targeted 50% battery.
Bakin and Taikobou are pushing it. If you consider those as "supports", then you must consider others like Tez and Koyami
@@kun2588 ZTL considered Gong and Edison as support with lesser supporting capabilities than Bakin and Taikobou.
Taikobou provides Quick up, Np damage up, attack up, and np gauge up for the party. That's support in my book.
Bakin has 8 buffs in one skill for an ally, and provides a small np gauge up. I think that's support as well.
@@bleach4k239 I mean Gong has 3/3 skills oriented around support. Idk what he was thinking about with Edison. What I'm saying is if you consider those two "supports", you have to talk about Tez, Koyami, CasGil and Kirei asw.
You missed Da Vinci summer and Nero Bride
Santa Martha?
I think that Miss Crane's biggest drawback is the fact that in "full event CEs 3-support and SSR dps" composition you just have no more party cost for even a 4*. So she has to compete with Oberon/Waver/Reines/LA.
I hope they look at adjusting party code soon moving forward. It could honestly free up a lot more creative team comps or allow you access to better CEs instead of making due
Nero Bride???
Yeah lol also the 4 star Saber twink
This one is tough question
Miyu???? we need a redo of the list
No miyu?