GOING HOME, Hope Sandoval's early duo w. Sylvia Gomez, studio demos, 1985 or 1986, 7 songs
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- This is Hope Sandoval's early duo she had with Sylvia Gomez in the 1980s before Hope went on to join Opal,&later Mazzy Star.
Song Listing:
1. Give You My Lovin', starts at 0.00 / 2. [Love], 3.44 / 3. Where Did You Go, 5:33 / 4. [Till I Die], 8:08 / 5. Dying, 9:24 / 6. Scarecrow, 12:12 / 7. Come Down, 16:13
Titles in brackets are uncertain. The other titles are correct.
[Update Nov. 1, 2020: Mazzy Star played track 3 "Where Did You Go" [previously known as "Where Did You Run To"] live on their 1990 tour. A 1990 set list used on stage at Columbia, S.C. lists its title as "Where Did You Go," so we now know its correct title.
[Update Sept. 6, 2021]: In the book "Tell Me When It's Over, Notes From The Paisley Underground," edited by Clive Jones is reprinted a 1987 article from Heartbeat mag by Nigel Cross on Going Home. The journalist got to hear the Going Home studio recording and ID-ed some correct titles: "Scarecrow" & "Coming Down" here.
Here are some facts about this recording newly supplied or confirmed by my valued source:
-This is Going Home, Hope Sandoval's and Sylvia Gomez's 1980s duo
-Cassette tapes of this session were distributed privately circa 1985 to people the band knew. Someone who received a tape then cited 1985, though two articles I saw suggest 1986.
-There was reportedly an 8th song on the studio recording called "War in the Souls" (ID-ed by journalist Nigel Cross in a 1987 Heartbeat mag article), a song missing from this version I have. However, I have the missing song on the 1985 4-song live set of Going Home I upped to yt here: • Going Home - Hope Sand...
-David Roback (later to become Hope's Opal band mate and Mazzy Star partner) recorded/produced this studio recording
-This recording is the only studio recording ever made by Going Home.
-Going Home consisted of Sylvia Gomez on guitar and Hope Sandoval singing. One guitar and one voice.
Info gleaned from multiple interviews and articles discloses Hope and Sylvia started playing and writing songs together when Hope was 15 (1981 or 1982). By early 1985 they were gigging in the L.A. area. Their third gig can be dated to January 17, 1985 at the Anti-Club opening for Sonic Youth and The Minutemen, which suggests their first public gig was likely in late 1984 or in January, 1985.
In one article, a journalist claims it was Sylvia who gave David an early tape of Going Home in 1983 at a Rain Parade gig (Rain Parade was David's band at the time).
An alternate explanation is found in a direct quote from Hope from a 1990s mag interview by journalist Bruce Warren (mag source and date are unknown), QUOTE: "Back in high school," recounts Hope, "my friend Sylvia Gomez and I were always depressed, and we'd just stay in the house and write songs. One day Kendra [Smith of Opal] came by, asked us to play some songs, and she liked it. We made a tape and Kendra gave the tape to David."
David Roback has said he was very impressed with what he heard and listened to the tape over and over. He decided he wanted to record/produce them.
Hope joined Opal as their new singer (replacing Kendra Smith) in late Nov.,1987, renamed Mazzy Star in 1989.
Songs in brackets are titles supplied by the original sharer, but may be tentative ones. "Give You My Lovin' " is a song Hope originally sang in Going Home, a song Sylvia Gomez wrote&was later recorded by Mazzy Star & became a regularly performed song at Mazzy live shows."Where Did You Go" also became a song performed live by both Opal (with Hope) and by Mazzy Star though it was never on a studio release. "[Love]" & "Scarecrow" Going Home performed live. The fifth song "Dying" is the correct title supplied to me by a knowledgeable source. Formerly it was mis-titled "Close Up My Eyes."
Those interested in an audio file of this recording can download a FLAC version here:
mega.nz/#!Cc8A...
Lots more live show recordings with DL links can be found at a fan site here: mazzystar.free....
In more than one 1990s interview, Hope&David said this Going Home studio recording would be officially released. Decades later, we're still waiting. In a 2013 interview Digital Daze interview, Hope again repeated the Going Home recording may get a belated official release. Bring it.
I originally found this recording shared at popular live show torrent sharing site dimeadozen.org. Unfortunately, the person who upped it there had poor knowledge about the origin of the recording and inadvertently supplied misinfo claiming it was "Hope Sandoval solo, 1990." Wrong!
In a 2018 Double J radio interview (now uploaded to my yt Channel) David Roback speaks about this recording. He says it was recorded at engineer (and former member of the band Blue Cheer) Ethan James' Radio Tokyo studio located in an old house in Venice, California.
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Sylvia retired from music and went to college . She is an elementary school teacher and has two children . She and Hope are still close.
what are your sources?
@@ThePsyndicate Who knows where thoughts come from? It just feels nice. Let's just leave it at that and enjoy the warm fuzzy feeling.
Jumail Mail were u close to Silvia? How do you know all this?
Jamail are you close to hope?
Am I being untruthful? You know I am not .
8:09 I may have made a mistake
calm down, calm down
calm down, Nancy
people there dying
diemonds, they`re shining
hold `em in your hand
love me till i doubt
love me till i down
Thank you for posting this. It's great to have such a good quality recording. The fact it was made by the late David Roback makes it even more special.
Imagine if you were David Roback when he first heard Hope and Sylvia's home recording. I'm guessing it was one of the OMG moments of his life. She's got every possible musical gift, and an innate sensitivity to many of his ideas.
He was already convinced of their talent from hearing their own home made cassettes. That's why he recorded and produced this studio recording for them.
@@Bobjb999 oh gosh I just realized I got my musician history mixed up. You're right. Will edit.
@@Bobjb999- and thank you mr cat for all these videos
A knowledgeable, helpful source (someone who knew Hope & Sylvia back in their 1980s Going Home days) has recently provided or confirmed the following info about this recording:
-It is definitely Going Home with Sylvia on sole guitar and Hope as sole singer.
-It was recorded/produced by David Roback, presumably in 1985. Cassette tape copies of the recording were distributed in 1985 to people the band knew
-This seven-song recording is the only studio recording Going Home ever made. There never was any full-length album, just this e.p. length one.
Nice back story, thx. Thankfully, these songs lived on when Hope teamed up with David Roback forming Mazzy Star/OPAL...
Hermesacat 💖🎶🎵🎶
Wow! What I would give to have a copy! Music is so precious! ❤️
@@mauroienna9145 I accept your apology
True
Scarecrow is one of the most beautiful songs I’ve ever heard. I can’t believe they never officialy released this:(
Thank you so much for sharing it with us!
My fave is "Dying"
This is a fascinating time capsule. I'm surprised at the Dylan-isms.
Thank you for sharing this.
Coming across this made my day - thought I had heard every Hope Sandoval song only to come across this pile of gems - thank you!
A taste of Velvet Underground
What a great finding! I love listening to that stuff. Nothing against professional produced music, but in the end just pressing record on a tape recorder and a cheap mic in an untreated room without effects added just works if the songs are great. It’s just so real.
I'm sorry to hear Roback died. I didn't know till reading these comments. So that means seasons of your day is the end....
Hope lives on forever tho'
It sounds good, doesn't it? With a nice, clear, full sound. Click on my video description here to read the whole description. I've just added links to direct downloads at file hosting sites where anyone interested can DL a high quality FLAC version, &/or an MP3 of it, 'cause "worthwhile music's for sharing (not hoarding!)"
This shows her developing her unique style. Simple , yet genius. 👍
LOVE YOU HOPE S.💜💛💜❤🎸🎙🎹🌟
BIG FAN AND LOVE YOUR VOICE AND FROM ON CHICK TO ANOTHER YOUR SO DARN CUTE 🥰🎙🎸
🌟🌹🌹🌞💕✌✌
A unique voice, Her vocals in Mazzy Star seem more subdued. Interviews with David she seems reticent to express herself much like her mentor David almost taking on his personality. She because more open in interviews with the Warm Inventions.
Latinas stay winning period
Beautiful. Beauty. Precious. Mazzy Star.
Love these early recordings.. And shows what fabulous talent was on show.. Even then Hope had that magical power in her singing to get right inside you and make your mind just wander into a magical wilderness
Hope is a angeĺ .
I have to listen to the song "seasons of your day" every night.
Stunning, haunted ballads by east l.a.'s Going Home. I hear bits of The Gun Club, The Rolling Stones, & especially early Opal as strong influences on their unique sound. I can totally see why both David and Kendra were so taken, and flattered, and shook.
Velvet Underground
Velvet of course
Here's a lyrics of Where Did You Run To that I wrote by the way I hear
Nothing from something
Was a real great thing
Trying to be someone
Maybe even
Trying to be something
Looking through the world with those
Big black eyes
Where did you run to, baby?
Where did you hide?
All around I see
Great big fallen stars
And people outside the windows
With great big chance
I think that I just wanna
Close my eyes
Close up my eyes to all of these
That I can see
Being the king I guess it's all
Fine and well
And being the star I guess it's
Just as well
And being a winner
Has something to do with this world
But being a loser, baby
They haven't found a place for you
Hey you, live fast
Die young, did you know?
When you die you ain't gonna
Have any place to go
Your brand new sport car
And my one day run you down
Did you ever think of that?
In the second verse I hear: "And people outside the windows, with great big jaws"
And in the last verse I hear: "Your brand new sport car might one day run you down"
@@Paler23 not that it matters but i'm pretty sure the word is jars not jaws.
Mazzy Star yes, Thank you... !💞
Simply sensually beautiful.
Melody, esp. at 4:55-5:03 or so, is something else-- very bossanova, Astrud Gilbertoesque for sure. Wonder if these two had delved into that music back then.
Yes! This is it!!!! The only version I have ever heard! " Close up my eyes" is one of my top favorite five songs ever! I love this whole video! I am exhausted but I had to check it out before I go to bed. Thank you so much! I hope I am fortunate someday to see Mazzy Star (Hope, Dave... I don't care what she tour's as: warm inventions, Opal, Hope....I just want to see them live!!! Thank you! p.s. hope I make sense....almost asleep!
+Lisa Thompson If you haven't heard this good news already, Hope S&TWI are releasing a 7" vinyl single called "Isn't It True" on Record Store Day, April 16, 2016, and an album is to follow! And maybe a tour? Too bad they only talk about releasing the Going Home album Roback recorded in the 1980s, but never do it. Going Home had some something special, as David recognized when he first heard them.
Thank you for the exciting information! I have flown to Europe to see band's so I will have to watch close because I live two state's away from where Hope grew up. I could easily fly or even drive. Thanks again!!!
The correct title is "Dying" for the song you like I had mis-titled as "Close Up My Eyes." A knowledgable source informed me recently.
@@Bobjb999 One must consider who owns the rights to the master reels (reel to reel) and the process to get the masters digitized. Hopefully the master recordings are not damaged and can still be digitized unless this demo is the digitized version. Have you heard or read any updates about this? Interesting to know)
@@joshuafaust9094 There was a rumor some time ago, that Ivo Wats Russell was very interested in releasing this through 4ad. Apprently talks fell through between Roback & Ivo. What a shame as this would have been right at home on 4ad.
Scarecrow
I was walkin'
Down a lonely road
and I was thinkin'
about the wind and cold
and I saw a man
A shadow dwelling man
and he was alone, all alone
and he saw my eyes
and he saw them afraid
He reminded me of a scarecrow
a torn apart, old scarecrow
and he started towards me
started walkin' right to me
and he pulled me aside
and said that he never cried
no, he doesn't cry
He held it all inside
and I started thinkin'
about the music
and what the music was sayin'
and how the music was playin'
It was sayin'
not to give up
to keep holdin' on
and that it was alright to cry
and he looked me in the eyes
and said that I hadn't realized
That there was murder in the streets
and people were just dyin'
and he reached for his gun
and he put it to his head
and he blew himself away
He shot himself dead
But I was too young
to even understand
He was a lonely man
he was a lonely man
Burning Airlines (1980's - early 90's mail order purveyor of imports and bootlegs) had this release for sale in their zine / catalog. I think it was listed under Hope's name with the references "ex-Opal / Mazzy Star"
Since my comments over 8 years ago a lot has changed. One of my forever favorites David Roback has died of cancer. So has Keith the drummer . They are all seen together not long before Keith died on the Mazzy Star video “California”. I also have the Hope Sandoval and the warm inventions c.d. With “Isn’t it true”. I love that song!
I have that cd plus the red 45 physical media is important to own you never know how long your favorite songs will be available
@@tysontitus3332 I have all the c.d.’s but I can not find “Going Home” in any form. I don’t like streaming. I am old fashioned. I like you tube but nothing is better than a hard copy of great music. If you know where I can find Going Home Especially “Close up my eyes” please let me know! I LOVE that song. I have to go through Going Home to get to it! Thank you!
Gracias por esta publicación. Navegando por las noches siempre deviene la melancolía.
Hope Sandoval is really Peter Pan. She never had to grow up she just sang in Neverland forever.
Worked at Beach Culture '88 when Messrs Carson and Feineman turned me onto all sorts, none the least early Mazzy / G500. Thanks for this post.
But beeing a looser baby, they haven't found a place for you...
On autoplay forever...
I love scarecrow!
Great song! Vary deep to
thank you, i have imagined for years what this was, and it is in my mind as described somehow the origins of my love for this dreamy songwriter who inspired me to do so as well, to some degree, but my loss for words have left me with a instrumental landscape of nothing to say in music, but to do nothing but feel it in m soul and thank the universe for producing such a wonder
come down is to be checked out, as it will truly bring you there instantly
🖤🌟Hope Sandoval🌟🖤
"Dying" was always my favorite.
Most amazing voice
Nice hollow sound of the eighties...
Lou Reed love this.
thank you for this treasure... Mexico´s biggest fan.
4AD was teasing about releasing this back in the mid-90s but it never seemed to get beyond that.
Thanks for upload and information! Great!
Stunning. Thanks for sharing
I love the words.
Wonderful.Thanks for sharing
Thank You for this. Beautiful.
This is great
Dying reminds me of something Beat Happening would write.
Amazing song though.
hope sandoval világszépe is lehetett volna....
Her best work from start to finish
BEAUTIFUL LIL ALBUM
This is fantastic. Thank you for sharing it.
Wow this is so good
Thank you you for this
It’s in its raw form which makes so perfect 👍 love Hope
come down is amazing
They used some of these songs for Mazzy's debut album.
The talent of Hope Sandoval and David Roback cannot be understated. I have 3 of their albums and there is not a bad song on them. Sure, I like some more than others, but at the time those albums came out, major labels were doing the "7 record deal," with bands where they take 7 good songs, make 7 albums putting one of the 7 goods songs on each and filling up the rest of each album with crap and fluff. Mazzy did not do that. The worked hard on each and every song. I cannot say of all the music I own (and it's A LOT), that every album put out by bands over the course of years have all good songs. Not even my punk albums. Their work is solid and will stand the test of time for its artistry.
Didn't they almost become 4AD's first US signing? Ivo being a big fan of all the Roback-Kendra incarnations?
no. Throwing Muses.
Suffering is a part of life, and when I suffer because of a comment on Hope’s brilliant career ( and her voice is so powerful), it is worth it.
Maybe it´s not a demo tape, maybe it´s a part of the lost album, produced by Roback...???
I've looked everywhere for the last song comedown and it's lyrics but can't find it ,can you help please 🌛
You can download the 7-song collection in lossless FLAC format, here: mega.nz/file/Cc8ARJiY#FlnCBrdsOjw11mgYRlMfnLXqiCqBwSysuTJrOaxi80I. The songs are individual tracks in the download. You need to figure out lyrics yourself by listening and transcribing.
@@Bobjb999 Thank You
She was a real artist. She reminds me of a female Daniel Johnston
"Give you my lovin" fits the way I feel about you so well, bae... and you won't ever know or feel it, although: here am I writing about you again. 😩
Where did you go will always my favorite
Very beautiful. I am finally going home after 10 years in Graz Austria 🇦🇹. California here I come. 1st things Wal-Mart, in and out burger ,and Starbucks. Hahaha. It will be good to see my mother. Going home. Hope for peace 8888
Can anyone transcribe them? This is great! the last song sounds very interesting
Emi DR sure check comments I wrote some lyrics
Hey - added them to Genius. I'm new to the site so theyre a little jumbled because editing them into one album was confusing. stupid site. anyway here they are: genius.com/artists/Going-home
So punk rock .. musical genius
Here's a lyrics of Come Down that I wrote. Just like I hear it
Come down to dark deep hole
Come down and see
Come down to sell your soul
Sell it for free
Come down and see a man
Working alone
Come down and watch him create
His lonely home
Come down to black girl's heart
Blacker than blue
Come down to hear her sing
Sing just for you
Come down to buy a dreams
Buy them for free
Come down to buy a dreams
Buy them for me
Come down to white girl's heart
She's lost a soul
Come down to black boy's love
She'll never know
Come here to shame (?)
She cries
For being loved
Come down to lost
She cries
For on and on
Mazzy Star Thank you... 💞
thank you so much !!! x
well done for sourcing this early cassette tape .. Hope is definitely the best vocalist ever .. this is the only way that I know to reply how to Hope/Sylvia/David .. this track was created by Syd Barrett, the original member of the Pink Floyd th-cam.com/video/HhBb7fefdSU/w-d-xo.html
i need the chords for the second song 🥺
Great upload, love Hope S
Scarecrow!!!
Scarecrow is really her best song
What happened to Sylvia Gomez? Did she go on to make music, too?
She is credited for the background vocals on the album "Through the Devil Softly"
she's a happy mom with a great career and still maintains her friendship with Hope.
Factual info
Top demais som anos 80 👍
So deep.
Was für eine geile Stimme-was für eine geile Traumfrau😍😍😍😍😍
Loving it!
Can someone please upload “Come Down” by itself?
What's stopping YOU? You want it, you do it, how's that?
3:50
What happened to the other Going Home demo, the one with "You're Mine" on it??? And the Woody's show, too? Pls Hermes make the kitty bring them back, won't you!
Check my yt Channel. I've uploaded new versions of the Woody's 1990 Mazzy show, & Going Home live 1985 opening for Opal. I made the old uploads unavailable 'cause the new ones are in better quality audio. No loss, only gain!
Ah. Nice~
❤️❤️❤️
thank you so much
Oh my gosh this is totally fantastic! Might there be any chance you or anyone else would have an mp3 download of this? Either way, thanks so much for the upload!
GellyVelly would love an mp3 upload.... Any chance of one out there?
3:00
Is there a way to download this without having a Premium account at File factory?
Thank U! 😊
I agree
16:15
:)
Hope predating Courtney Barnett
Thank you!!!!
Now it worked, thanks!
9:24!
do you have a seperate recording or video for the song love (the second song) and by the way are you sure this is hope? she sounds v different
Do you mean have I also upped that song all on its own? No. Hope changed her vocal style over the years. In Going Home, she doesn't sound like she did later in Opal. And in Mazzy Star, especially by 1993, she doesn't sound like she did in Opal in 1988. If you compare Hope's voice here to the 4-song 1985 live set of "Going Home" I've also upped, the voice & many of the songs are identical. Plus someone with a speaking voice sounding like Hope's speaking voice IDs the name of their group as "Going Home" in answer to an audience question. It's Hope on both recordings.
You can tell it's Hope. Each song sounds different because a singer changes her/he tone based on how they feel they want the song to sound. Just saying.