Damian McKenzie at 10, the last ¼ blues and why the Boks tripped up | ARP
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- 1:57 Solutions to the All Blacks’ last ¼ blues
18:22 Is the All Blacks’ bench being mismanaged?
21:57 The impact off Wallace Sititi on the ABs’ loose trio
25:12 Who replaces Sam Cane at 7 next season?
27:16 Who starts at 9 when Roigard returns?
29:36 Cortez Ratima’s crazy bench press numbers…
31:19 Is Damian McKenzie getting a bad wrap?
35:00 What went wrong for the Boks in Argentina?
42:17 Aaron Cruden mic’d up
49:41 Who ya got? Rugby Championship tipping
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Aotearoa Rugby pod is one of my favorite Rugby podcasts together with the 'Breakdown' and I'm South African. New Zealanders are just so chilled and informative. Even when there's banter around it's always funny and good natured.
good to see SA fans back supporting nz after argentina beat you
Mate you missed out on alot.There was the other show from early 2000s with alot more banter with yawns.Never got into Supersport stuff too much testosterone when Smith Matfield and Habana came on
😂New Zealanders are biased mate but yeah they dö make great pöints😅
Bryn, Ross and Jipper just seem like the best blokes. Great show lads.
can agree fully > this is a great show lads : well done‼️🥂💫
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It was interesting hearing Joe Schmidt’s comments at the end of the game and he praised a few ABs including McKenzie.
Bryn and James are brilliant analysts. Ross is a really talented presenter too. So much low key humility on show. This is a great watch.
Do not sugar coat it by saying what could have been. We lack game management in the last quarter. We need to be able to just close opposition down. We didn't need more points.
Spot on mate
I think the issue with the last quarter actually stems from the team tactics. We are picking a speed-based loose forward combination with an intent on moving the ball wide - rapidly and continually. The ABs have passed way more ball than any other team in the Championship. This has created opportunities - which haven’t always been taken - but the lack of direct, driving play means that they aren’t tiring teams whilst ultimately running out of steam themselves.
Probably the most accurate assessment I heard
I miss Sonny !maybe Vern Cotter is an answer
Been the problem since Henry left ....2019 Quarter vs England
I’m glad they talked about the Mackenzie Hate. It’s embarrassing.. the “he’s threw away 3 tries” narrative that he also created…
Last year we lacked the ability to create not this year….
It’s always a certain dude that hates Mackenzie too. Middle aged white dude that’s never played ten….
37-year old ex 9/10 here - he did throw away tries. It’s his job not just to create opportunities but also to execute them. If Beauden or Mo’unga were blowing tries like that they would also be the subject of public scorn.
He’s a great impact player- anyone with sense would agree to that - but he’s not a run-on 10 and he’s clearly panicking when the pressure comes on
You have zero idea of who is critical of McKenzie.
Why shouldn't people be critical?
@@AngusRobert 53-year old ex 9/10 here, clearly you're wrong. Obviously there's more going on the DMac. You're a joke if you can't see it. Watch the last 10 and see if you can see him make a mistake... haters got to hate. And here's the thing, who repalces him, Beauden? No thanks... is he going to be around for the next cup? The next two inline for 10 are a long way behind DMAc.
Thats the reality....
How does race come into the equation? That's not a valid point but just racism
Really enjoyed the Mic'd Up, be great to see some more of that
I was watching the highlights of the Bokks vs Argentina and when Argentina started turning things around i thought it could be an interesting result. So stopped the highlights reel and went and watched the game. I wasn't disappointed! Viva Argentina!
Ask yourself, in Nz is there a better impact player than Duplesis Kirifi, strong over the ball, strong ball runner and a nut who will tackle his heart out, I know he's small but if you give Ardie a time limit of 65 minutes to go hard and wreck havok then rest him for last 15 minutes and replace him with Kirifi to come on and go Nutz, make him a specialised 15 minute impact player
Dalton Papalii and Peter lakai way better 7s .
Who is 'KArifi'?
Oh, you mean KIRIFI!
If you're going to promote the guy then at least spell and type his surname correctly.
Ardie is too arrogant to either switch positions or to sub-off. Every man and his Dog can see that Ardie should be moving from 8 to allow Wallace to flourish there. Ardies Post Contact meter stats are woeful and he his famous for fighting too hard and not hitting the deck to allow the halfback to clear.
@@maffroseyou dont know anything mate 😂😂 he aint world player of the year for nothing
@@rogue_lukosorry laho I mean no disrespect I'm actually blind and using a braille to write
Offering a different perspective: if you ask a coach from endurance sports about the reasons why an athlete / team may be regularly suffering from a drop in performance later in an event they'd likely look for explanations like: chronic over-training, high fatigue levels going into the event, poor pre-event fuelling, poor intra-event fuelling, poor effort balance across the event, inadequate cardiovascular fitness levels etc. Looking at the ABs loss of intensity later in games this season, these physiological explanations may be a better fit than tactical explanations. Maybe the new coaching team's strength and conditioning coaches have not found the right balance this season?
everyone else can see it except coach ..
Our defense crumbles in the last 20 minutes. That is a fitness issue.
I think fatigue could be it. I mean Razor had them do fitness tests during their holiday last summer after a long season with the world cup
It's neither tactics nor conditioning, it's purely psychological. Get our players more confidence and belief in themselves, and it'll all click into place.
The strength and conditioning coach and nutritionist have not changed, they’re the same people who’ve been with the team for years, so this argument doesn’t seem viable
Thanks for the timeline in the comments! Agree with Bryn on Damo - he has the potential to be the best 10 in the world and has a talent-set no other NZ 10 has. Yes he has elements to work on. I think he would have benefited from learning under the senior leadership team of the ABs 2011 - 2015 - the current leadership group is lacking severely on mental resilience, which is what I think Mackenzie needs to improve most
The best Rugby show by far through out the world .
Boys, left field question that I’ve been thinking about. Do you think Roigard could be converted into a 10. He’s unbelievably composed and intelligent, he has a running game, a very good kicking game that could potentially evolve to a kicking game at 10. This also allows us to have Ratima and Roigard combo which could be potentially craaaaazy. Interested to hear Bryn’s thoughts as a halfback and having been in a combination with one of the best 10’s in the world in Richie.
How do you like Jordie B. at 10, weird I know but he's halfway there
Reckon there's something in that. Dupont has played a bit of 10. Having players that can switch between those halves positions would be super helpful to foster.
@@PJSO his tactical kicking is very good, and he’s super intelligent. I just wonder whether his size and physicality would be wasted at 1st receiver.
@@MLF-kq8ut yeah that’s kinda where I was getting the idea from. Would be interesting to hear the boys thoughts about how difficult it would actually be for a 9 to move to first five, do they think that Roigards skillset would transfer well or would being the game driver take away from his instinctive attacking style he has at 9. Like would the stress of being a 10 and having to know all the plays as well as trying to play heads up footy and learn a whole new defensive role suit Cam? Also the ABs use their first fives to cover bombs as well would this suit Cam, or would they change the game plan around him so that it wasn’t part of his role? I think it’s an interesting area to explore.
He's one of the best 9s we've ever had and you want to put him at 10?,go see a doctor
Come on Razor time for a change up. I was at the game.
I have been to nine previous AB's vs Aust games in Sydney.
Scooter is silent as captain. No team huddles aka Richie and Read.
D Mac is a chaotic fly in the bottle player, the rest of the backline never know what he plans to do.
Our numbers 1-8 lack the rugby IQ to grind a game down. And they are not punching the gainline, that's a form and talent issue imho.
Way too many errors.The final score should have been around 50-15.
Agree on the forwards lack of IQ, disagree about not making the advantage line. Wallace, Ardie, Aumua and more all consistently carried the ball forward well.
Hi there love your show, i might be wrong here ,but i feel a player like Harry Plummer is someone we can grow into a Carter like player. Someone that can control the back line ,can kick and run . Not like we currently have someone that runs across tha field. Yes McKenzie is great wen spaces open . But think we need someone that can keep n calm head and be tha general we need to guide the guys
Pumas looking real good with Kiwi Kendrick Lynn as their attack coach
Please get Jippa in front of the video wall and show us what he is talking and thinking through
Luv you guys learning so much about rugby keep up your excellent work from QueenNZlander living in Brissy cheers🎉
People have short memories.... Cortez looks a lot better than Roigard at the moment because one of them is actually playing rugby and the other isn't but once Roigard is back in action he is most definitely the best half back in New Zealand
Listening to the chat about returning players and who they may replace or supplement is interesting. Taking a leaf from the Bok book, it’s evident that depth and rotation, and players with multiple possible roles/postions makes a big difference come the RWC.
Rassie was at fault for the loss. Playing Tonyball with 10 changes, and putting Libbok to close out the game was a disaster, made worse by the Boks reverting to Bok rugby in the last quarter with the completely wrong flyhalf for that force penalty and kick for goals job. Its not Manie's fault because we arent now just discovering he has no BMT under pressure, its been known for years. Why was he even put into that position which is not in his skillset in the first place? Absolute shambles.
Agree not Libbok's fault. Rassie should have moved Pollard to inside centre, because let's face it AM was a spectator for 99% of the game.
Agree that Rassie should've made a tactical change at the back to keep Pollard on to close out the game@bwarrior6340
Libbok is not a bench player. He either starts or he doesn’t play. His creativity makes him probably the best attacking 10 in the world, we all know what he can do off front foot ball. We also know about his goal kicking, which is why you bench Pollard in the sense that you can just bring him off the bench to kick penalties. You don’t bring Libbok off the bench while the team is under the pump and hope that he can kick you to a win lol.
Who cares about you passion Chippa😂😂
Mates you nailed it Rassie blunders at times. this was worst blunder mates
Love the show lads! Did you get a chance to watch the Munster v Connacht game in the URC? Josh Ioane and Nankervell had great games for their teams respectively, and a good debut from Aido Morgan for Ulster. Can’t wait to see Jordie pull on the leinster geansaí.
Great show as always lads
Jeeezus.......FACTS
1 disallowed try just before half time. Execution error.
1 missed open try line before half time. Accuracy error.
2 disallowed tries in the second half. Execution error.
2 missed open try lines in the second half. Accuracy error.
6 missed opportunities.....that is a max 42 missed points If they converted just two of them, it is a totally different outcome.......it isn't that bad.......just lacked accuracy and execution.
the 1 at half time was actually a try but the tmo got it wrong
@@harryshark5459 Yeah, no idea how it can be classed a knock on if it never rolled forwards, or left Reece's hands.
@@harryshark5459its amazing how often they get it wrong when NZ is involved and you notice they look at NZs tries from every angle yet didnt even bother checking Niche try that wasnt a try.
@@Trajan2401 yeah almost a try ever other game involving us is incorrectly awarded/not given
All I hear is crying kiwis
Why is it that when you guys talk about plays that happen in games, you don't have clips to support? Now we have to re imagine and try remember specific plays in the moment, tf?
Razor is no amateur, I have faith in the process, the team, D Mac all of it. U guy's are cool, but on the whole, The NZ media, a lot of fans & "emailer's" etc are so nit-picky, be great to some lifting-them-up, positivity and encouragement thrown in as well, would make us all feel better. I know this because when other countries talk about us and how good our All Blacks are, ......it feels like a sunny day. Up the ABs 🖤
Would love to see Bryn and JP put together tapes of their own visually pointing out what they are talking about. Always great analysis, could be even more understood with real game examples.
Good show guys!
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Saffa. Somehow I've been much less motivated to comment on rugby show videos this week 😂. But congratulations to Argentina. Impressive performance!
Ill tell you what people don't understand... why are we trying to turn a classy full back in D Mac into a first 5 when we have a multiple player of the year at 1st 5 in Bauden Barret in the team.. its ridiculous
Because D-Mac is unlocking the rush D. He's also making fundamental errors that is leaving points out there. Being at fullback won't change that.
Fully agree
Its so nice listening to non Saffas talk rugby. They talk less about themselves and more about rugby.🤣 great pod as usual!🫡
Sorry guys i dont think Razors plan was to put Harry on the field at all, Give Harry 20 to 30 minutes and then judge from their on. We lost in every test since the boks because our bench is not making the impact in all areas but as individuals. So bring all of them on after 50 - 60 min mark and we will not struggle the last 20 min
Bok supporter, great commentary on our game
I think most kiwis agree that Beauden Barrett and Richie Mounga are better first 5s than DMac. He is better off the bench. Give Ardie Savea the captaincy. Also Tim Southhee, 11 wickets in the last 10 test matches, scores no runs, please.....just my opinion
Another awesome show guys🤘🤘 keep being awesome chaps🤙🤙🍻
One thing i love about these rugby podcasts, the 🇿🇦 comments from springbok and all black supporters. 🤙🏾
Are the All Blacks as fit as they used to be? I've heard Strength and Conditioning coaches say that players who aren't fit start making bad decisions in the last 15-20 minutes of a game just because they're tired. Just wonder if that's a factor with this team or is something else just not clicking.
so whats the strength & conditioning coaches doing about it?? that's their job. stop talking about it and do what they were hired for.
If we are preparing for future, once Sam leaves, Razor should give Lakai chances to have a run in the team.
Lakai can plak 7-8, Sititi can play 6-8, Blackadder 6-7-8, Ardie 7-8.
Currently our young 9s stocks all have decent passing speed of the breakdown, it’s just the tactical kicking that is not up to Test standards yet. Anyone who improved their kicking should be further up in the pecking order to start for ABs.
Hey team, A lot of chat about Fihaki entering injury cover when the likes of McLeod, Tupaea, Shaun and Emoni are around. Reminds me of what everyone thought when Jordie started getting selected... If for whatever reason he gets a chance in a black jersey where does Razor put Chay?
Roigard n ratima, think we can use em both just who n what time n the game. But both very good. Cheers
I'm South African, so I'm bias...but love the analysis on the Springboks.
Yeah Sititi awesome, agree with DMac, just need video sessions with Coach.
They are trying to blame Damein McKenzie mates it's the whole team no enforcer in the teams 😊
I beg to differ with James about the "trust" issue with Plummer seeing they kinda had to let him come on in order to make his debut as an AB. That was kinda exactly the same for Stephen Perofeta when we lost against Argentina in Christchurch 2022. Razor might have done that alot during his tenure as the Crusaders coach but this is Test foot we are talking about. If you are mentioning the yellow cards then why did they not bring him on sooner? Week in week out we are hearing about learnings from the coaching staff but clearly the bench is where we are not learning.
I hope Razor can just let the new kids loose on the park this weekend. The bledisloe is already won and we are not winning the championship.
Please consider this:
1 - Williams
2 - Amua
3 - Tosi
4 - Darry
5 - Barrett (only because he is the captain)
6 - Blackadder
7 - Savea
8 - Sititi
9- Ratima
10 - Plummer
11 - Clarke
12 - ALB
13 - Proctor
14 - Jordan
15 - B. Barrett
16 - Lomax
17 - Bell
18 - De Groot
19- Tuipulotu
20 - Sam Cane (To complete 100th test)
21 - Hotham
22 - Rieko Ioane
23 - McKenzie
I played rugby in school in South Africa. I could kick that Libbok kick over every day of the week.
Love Dmac but maybe at FB with BBarrett at flyhalf
No
Sititi to start at 6 always. Then later in second half bring blackadder on for him, blackadder is prone to being injured so have him as that real impact. Bkackadders workrate on tired bodies will be immense.
I don’t remember another AB’s 10 getting so many chances? 👀 DMac’s a great attacking threat, but he’s half the game manager that Beaudy is. I feel for him, the pressures getting to him. He threw away 3 tries last weekend, that he would’ve iced in the past.
Similar story to Scotty.. he’s lost the dog in him, no doubt thats due to the weight of captaincy.
Great learnings coming out of all of this though!
Carlos Spencer had many years of inconsistent kicking and was always being considered for chances.
In the case of Scott Barrett, the change in form is due to a change in locking partner. When he played alongside Retallick he established a particular pattern of play where he could really target his strengths. He’s not quite established the same relationship with Vaa’i yet.
They already gave BB more chances
The were saying Richie wasn’t upto it for years!! Before he cracked it….
@@rory7590I feel like Patty t might be that guy Scott could Chem with.
NZ rugby fans need a scapegoat and if your not the one they prefer they love to put the boot in as they lay the blame and sharpen their knives..Jeez I wonder who the target is🤔
Go back and watch games where McKenzie is under pressure, watch how he loses his rugby IQ. Bryn (sp) just said as much in the video. Watch how he loses all sense of playing for territory and panics kicking the ball straight back to the opposition, watch how much pressure that puts on the All Black defense, watch how it makes them give penalties and earn cards. He's more of a cost than a plus in those situations. This is why so many people are calling for him to be an impact bench player. This is why he's copping so much flak.
Our fitness is not as great as everyone assumes. We have had multiple 4th quarter collapses over the past few years including Melbourne 2022 and Twickenham 2022. This is an ongoing issue that is plaguing our game. All Blacks fitness coach Nick Gill need to improve the fitness of the players.
Because we are tired, our game collapses in the last 20 minutes as the opposition puts us under severe defensive pressure which leads to discipline issues. Even our carries and cleans deteriorated badly in the last 20 minutes. We carried and cleaned well for 60 minutes of that game and then there was a significant drop off in the last 20 minutes. That’s a fitness issue. We need to try a 6-2 split on the bench having 2 extra loose forwards. Bring them on in the 50th minute and give them a good 30 minutes to impact the game.
Copy cat all blacks late to the 6-2 party?
NZ used to be the leaders in rugby, it just shows the balance of power now
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Great show to start😁
Dm very talented player just think he would be so much more suited back to15
Give the form plummber chance by starting4 minutes razor
Better combo midfield would be great🤔
Took wallabies long time to get there defence right🤔
When they did we seemed lost for new ideas🤔
Cortez @ 9 / Plummer @ 10 / ALB @ 12 / Proctor @ 13 / Reiko @ 14 / Clarke @ 11 / Jordan @ fullback. Bledisloe is locked away, lets see these backs and get S Barret back @ 6 with Darry and Tupou in the engine room with Sititi at 8 and Ardie being the NZ Kwagga smith off the bench.
You were correct with the backline but not forwards
Has Rieko ever played 14? Too many players out of position either put Telea there or get Narawa in and Rieko can ride the bench
Plumber at ten? No
Put Jordan at 14, he's great with ball in hand but he'll crumble at fullback if he ever needs to kick or tackle.
@@sage_ignition8640out played Dmac twice this year head to heads to be fair
Living in oz i often saw a good blues team not doing well and now with razor coaching the ABs ; do es there need to be an improvement in coaching clinics ?? Bunting hasn't done much with BFerns so far .
All the talk about Tony Brown at SA, what about Kenny Lynn's impact as the Argentine back coach?? Give some credit
These guys think the AB loose forward trio is set...they are so wrong. Yes, Sititi is a great find...but is he really best at 6? Is Ardie really best at 8? And who should be playing at 7? Cane is not performing to his usual standards and is a very one-dimensional loosie. Papali'i is out of form and also a fairly one-dimensional player. I still believe we need a tall lineout option at 6 and see Vai'i as a natural 6...and a back-up 5. He's in the mold of a PSDT or Maro Etoji...a dominant force at the breakdown and disruptor on the opposition's lineout. He's played very well at 5 but is not the tall timber and enforcer we need there. I think Razor should be starting Vai'i at 6 this weekend with Darry starting at 5. I'd move Sititi to 8 and Ardie to 7 with Blackadder covering the three loosie positions off the bench...and Samipeni Finau or Jacobson added if we decide to use a 6:2 split. Sam Cane did not do enough last week to warrant his selection this week. On the end of year tour we need to take Peter Lakai to see if he can cut it at 7 at the top level. And the coaches may decide to bring Sotutu in from the cold instead of taking Jacobson if they believe he has developed the maturity to keep a lid on his emotions and social media outbursts -- very disruptive for the squad.
Pressure is on the last quarter from losing the 3rd quarter(repeatedly) and entering last quarter already under penalty pressure.
Not using bench for walking Scott Barret and Tyrel Lomax game after game after game doesn't help.
Codie Taylor great for everything but lineouts.
Not sure what AB systems were doing in the close channel, should have been fixed at half time.
Argees prob underated for some time. On the day very good. An there passes half changes are sticking
I think the stats on Dmacs passing tell a different story. Hes not new, he was considered third choice last year.
Love Ardie, hes a captain & SEVEN in my book.
We gonna waste so many high potential talents at 8 & 6.
Libbok executed well, i also thought he'll be a mastermind if he got that crucial kick because he orchestrated all that.
DMac will grow as an All Black first five-eighth!! He's an instinctive player!!
Up the Men In Black 🖤
Why is it that we are pesisting with Reiko at 13. He's a winger IMO and personally don't think he possesses the game intelligence to play that position. What am I missing?
AB coaches persist with Reiko at 13 because of the threat of his speed. It draws defenders in, as they now have to contend with two speedsters on the wing, and opens up space elsewhere. It's not rugby iq they're after, but opportunities.
which winger would you drop for him Jordan,Clarke?.
Foster brought in many changes , they have backfired and now Razor is sitting with the problems
@Trajan2401 bro, great question, even with Beauden at 10, although it means Jordan moves to 15. Maybe Telia, although we have Reece too.
He's a work on for me, I guess, and I think we would be better served by an actual centre because I don't think we are good enough to have work ons right now.
@@Trajan2401good question. My answer would be none. Jordan & Clarke are our dynamic wingers.
We should talk about rugby’s bunker. The decision on half time to rule out a try with a knock on looked wrong. But they did it behind closed doors. Compare the way the NRL do this. The bunker is live, we see what they are ruling on, they talk about decisions afterwards as well. It’s all open and they involve the fans. It’s all part of the entertainment - whereas rugby keeps its fans in the dark.
Yep it’s flawed definitely the tmo in the rwc final was criminal
Sevu's "knock-on" 🤣🤣🤣
If razor is referring to our bench as the impact players, why would you select ALB? Our bench is ridiculously low impact.
Beauden barrett needs to run at 10 for a bit. Trust me. If we are relying on mac at 10. Then we have to run beaudy at 10 also. I like plummer. But we have a certified game manager in baz. I think baz and jordan at 10-15 will suprisingly be a nice combo.
I still dont get how people believe that ardie the world player of the year ahould come off the bench? He is a 80min player!!! Nobody talks about scott coming off and he is below par in terms of skills and impact.
Last quarter??? The last points we scored was in the 43rd minute. New Zealand have become a 1 half team
Can Proctor play 12? 👀 because maybe he should! Has the ball skills and he’s a hard lad. Imagine this backline:
9. Ratima
10. Beaudy
11. Caleb
12. Proctor
13. Rieko
14. Jordan
15. Jordie
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Don't do that, don't make my dream back line😂 if only
Guuuun backline. Rock solid defensive midfield as well. Everyone always talks about how good Proctors running lines and distribution is, but not enough people talk about his defence. His D is elite.
Jordie is for better Fb than 12. You can easily slot him there for injury cover if need be. Reiko and Proctor would smash opposition together.
I would make Caleb the 13. He can break a line.
‼️Unpopular opinion on Ardie:
He isn’t captain because he’s too loose and unstructured. Hear me out: He won World Rugby POTY which has fully justified this play style but.. is it good for the team? Everyone targets him now. He was stripped TWICE on the weekend. He goes on to run into 3 defenders over the line and was held up when patience was the obvious right call. What role does he play for the AB’s right now? Seems like it’s Individual “Superman”. I think we need the SMART 8, High IQ Ardie. He is still a BEAST but he hasn’t made the smartest decisions lately in the 2nd half specifically.
so how did Soctt Bdo? where was the game management in last 20?
@@pita3908 Scotty shouldn’t be captain either lol but now we’re starting to understand why Cane and Whitelock were Captains. Played their role. Sacrifices so others (like Ardie) get to flourish. My candidate is Beaudy. It’s about time
Ardie needs to go back to 7 where he belongs
All the reasoning and positives seem to reflect what is usually successful in Super Rugby. The last seven years have shown decreasing returns for that style as tighter defences and team management tactics at test level have countered it. I would agree that simplifying the strategy and tactics in the first and final quarters could be effective IF players skill sets and execution were matched to the positions that got them into the squad in the first place. B.Barrett, Jordan, J.Barrett, Ioane, DMac, Savea, Sititi all being played out of their principal successful positions. I’m hearing a lot of excuses (sorry, “rationalising”) about team strategy, tactics, and management. I heard the same excuses initially about the wobbles at the Crusaders this year. They seem to have turned out to more likely be what they appear to be… failings that lead to poor performances. “Our team is doing so well…” This is our worst season since 2009 and would need to get a lot better to convince me this is progress not deterioration. I was really impressed with the effective attack and defense of the Wallabies back row, and how they put pressure on the ABs connection between pack and backline. Would love to see some analysis of why and how that worked. It seems to me a factor in turning the momentum in the game.
Once this lot moves on, 6-Blackadder 7-Savea 8-Sititi Impact-Papali’i surely
Papali isn’t that good at international level
Los Pumas brought the Boks back to earth as Rassie might have fielded a "4th" team if they got another win. Either way - GO BOKKE.
Cody Taylor should be captain
S Barrett looks out of form mostly, & seems burdened by Captaincy, remember last year he was the FORM lock, lost confidence, Razor needs a stronger bench with game changers & needs to use it
Dmac at 10 created more chances and lost some
They were down to 13 .. why is everyone so negative..
Because they are NZ rugby enthusiasts😮
why was our scrum was not as effective as it should have been?
Why is noone talking about leadership? Everything is leaderships fault - good and bad. D-Mac can't stop players from ill disicpline or make sure the bench performs their role when they're on. Thats the leaders role. The real issue with the final quarter is leadership - our captain and vice captains need to be a lot better. Not to mention - are they on the same page? If Sam Cane was captain right now, we would all be blaming the captain! The same scrutiny needs to be applied to S Barret.
Razor was completely outcoached and his selection in game management has become a head buried in sand. We have a good team other than bench selection. Draw a line through DMac, Jacobson and Reece. Game management and tactical rethink. This team has great potential .
The All Blacks don't have enough ball carriers compared to South Africa and Ireland. The pack is heavily reliant on Savea, Taylor and now Sititi with the rest being pretty ineffective..........Akira Ioane, Lakai, and Sotutu were the biggest pack ball carriers in Super Rugby that haven't been picked for the ABs squad.
To emphasis this point, against Australia, the whole of the rest of the ABs pack carried for 41 metres in total (Cane 1m, Lomax 2m, Williams 3m). Pieter Steph Du Toit carried that same amount himself vs Australia in their 1st test with the Boks.
The Blues had the least amount of tries scored against them, the best tackling, carries and metres gained, line-outs and rucks won in the Super rugby season and yet only made up 17% of the 23 man squad vs Australia.
The Blues demolished the running game of The Chiefs in the grand final and yet The Chiefs made up 30% of the 23 man squad vs Australia. FYI - Crusaders were 22%.
Not enough emphasis is being given to pack carries and game management and too much is being given to the running game of the backs in particular the 9 and 10, which has been proven not to work e.g. The Chiefs in the grand final of Super Rugby and France with Antoine Dupont. The issue with the 10 running so much (and the ABs 10 has run more than any other in the Rugby Championship) is that it makes the pack have to work harder to clear rucks which leads to fatigue come the latter stages of the game. In effect, the ABs are starting fast with their running game but then finding that they have "shot their load" because when fatigue sets in the pack is ineffective at ball carrying and there is a lack of game management to get themselves out of their own 22. When the bench comes on, they are not making an impact because ball carriers haven't been chosen for the squad.
So, it comes down to the tactics which have been chosen and the squad which has been selected, IMO.
A compromise position would be to have forward pack ball carriers and a game manager on the bench so that come the second half they can switch from a more Chiefs back-centred attack to a Blues forward-centred attack. In fact, it might be better to reverse this order and start with a forward-centred attack......it's clear that they cannot play for a whole 80 minutes using just one style of play.
Ardie on the bench and wallace start at 8. Ardie for impact in the later stages.
Bryn and Jip should be politicians when they need to state that DMAC had a poor game too many errors but as politicians they won’t 😂
No they genuinely think he's playing well, but just not finishing. It's better to keep him and get him to work on the 5% he's not finishing.
@@paultv8693 but if it was anyone else they drop them he needs to be ready not just hope he plays well he’s had several chances time for someone else
@@marboy01 fair but I think they are prepared to think long term, e g. Develop him for next WC, not just game to game.
Chay Fihaki is a joke. I cannot understand this move, given the real talent out there.
Well since the all blacks are in a building face adding chay fihaki will boost the building blocks
Just because crusaders.. bias coaching at its best
Exactly, Shaun Stevenson would have been my pick considering he already knows the All Blacks system.
The ABs are no longer the fittest team around. I think it’s really that simple. Plus, defence is miles ahead of where it used to be the last time the ABs were dominant, so they can’t get that 25 point lead.
Bryn take your crusader hat off. We scored most of our try’s off Australia’s mistakes our Attack has not been that good and definitely not good enough in the last 20 minutes
TJ saved the day big time. The 23 man game needs 23 test level players, and why change when the team are winning, can't these guys do a full 80.? They have been falling apart when they make changes.
Get rid of Bomber squad maybe a lock or prop but not the back line especially if they are having a light game
we lack patience. We are becoming the warriors
What difference between these guyz n the breakdown (Joke)show. Good content, stats, and views n comments a lot more dialled in.
You forgot or don’t wanted to talk about Beauden Barrett
He didn't play lol
Razor has not done anything to this side. The NZ rugby need to apologise to Foster.
Razor is out of depth, He was so happy on Saturday, how could he be happy with such a performance.
But at least the boys put in the ‘care’ ‘effort’ and got all the ‘learnings’. I’m sure they’ll ’look in the mirror’ this week blah blah blah
Its only his first year i guarantee he will have a far better record than fozzie in 4 years
Fozzie was worse with more international experience
@@Trajan2401 , probably. But He has not done anything yet.
Foster won the rugby championship a few times,got NZ to the World Cup final, let see how far Razor gets.👍
Get lost.
Chipper would never appreciate an Argentinian win, it has always been a lack of merit of either NZ, Aussie or ZA in this Rugby championship 😂
DMac is not the problem. The guys outside him are the problem. How long do we have to persevere with Jordie and Rieko? They do nothing and are shocking on defence. Why is no one talking about the easy tries the forwards let in?
Agree. Personally, I want to see Proctor and ALB in midfield this Saturday.
12 and 13 are the weakest pairing ever. Jordie can't carry the ball his a opportunist, always waiting for the end pass.
Crazy how Cruden looks like how he did 10 years ago.
I love these mic'd up player segments, but how realistic are they, are these players always this vocal or is it ramped up because they know they are mic'd. In my 30 years playing low level amateur I never heard such talking. Or indeed is this a differentiator with top players?
HP is as an Ace/ game changer , not Bench nor impact player.
Solve the first five problem and you have the makings of a very good team.
Harry plummer given gametime will suit allblack style better than mackenzie, more like carter was.
He's nothing like Carter.
Very disrespectful saying the boks just had an off weekend. Argentina deserved to win. And it just settles the debate as to who the best rugby team is off all time. It's the 2011 to 2015 All Blacks.
This bok team has lost to Argentina, Wales, Australia, Ireland and France. That was not the case with the All Blacks
All Blacks, your strength can also be your weakness too. There's more to rugby than fancy skill-sets, slick passing and flashy off-loads. It's rugby, not touch rugby.
we dont like boring rugby lol.
We’ve gotta genius over here