Islamic Dawah Man's Abuse of Historian Diodorus Siculus to Claim a Pre-Islamic Mecca | Arul Velusamy
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No mecca. No Muhammad. No quran . ALL MADE UP😂😂😂
mohamad existed and quran exists. both evil..mecca probably build by random people in past that mohamad used story to build
It's fiction... Dr Jay has proved it.
Alice in Wonderland 😀
@@applemac100100 bingo
Without lies, Islam dies
Muslim ignorance doesn't have any answer !
Jesus is the Lord 👑
ExMuslim
you should know the pain we christians have to go through to save on soul from satan.its not easy
@@earthexplorer579 you complaining !? yes brother you should know its a the HolySpirit job.
Also apostasy in Islam is punished by death ! We are all here to see the work of God, in and among us to glorify God in Jesus name. The point is how we cross the finish line 👑✝️🎯
Without lies Islam dies
They know absolutely nothing
Without lies!! Islam dies 😂😂😂😂😂😂
May God strengthen more and more to proclaim truth and disclose the lies of Islam
No maps mentioned Mecca before the 8th Century
The Egyptians did not mention
Assyrians did not mention Babylonians did not mention
Medo- Persians did not mention
Greeks did not mention
Romans did not mention Mecca
Even the arabs didn't mention it before the 8th century, the most merciful Allah forgot to mention it to anyone it was a secret 🥱
@@yeshua7136😄
The art of lying is to believe your own s#!*.
God bless you brother Arul and family ❤❤❤ from Sweden 🇸🇪
^_^ Poor muslims,
They have nothing to stand on !
NOTHING to stand on!
No pre-Islamic source so much as mentions its existence, despite the contemporary interest in the region. A number of Roman historians provide detailed descriptions of western and southern Arabia, yet did not make so much as a single mention of Mecca.
It's the 1st bingo Hall where Muhammad played and cause he never won all Muslims can't gamble ...
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My mum played there too….😂
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Maaan, what a perfect call...😂
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Mecca didn't exist in the 7th century, it's Mohammed made up a city when he was controlled by the devil 😅
Mecca not mentioned in bible only valley of bakah which is NOWHERE NEAR A DUSTY HOLE IN DESSERT
God bless you brother
I love that you bring up new topics that put islam and its history on the spot. All that is an lie that needs to get light on it so that they can start question all the fake facts
Dan Gibson has said that there's no way a city like Mecca described in the Quran couldn't have existed as it was a baron wasteland... archaeological evidence supports this
I watched CIRA international and they showed that there are NO artifacts from that time there even though they are building there NOTHING has come up that states there was an ancient city/village there.
baron = a ruler
barren (wasteland) is the way to spell it.
Quran talks about mountain with trees, fields, large farms, grapes, ponds, streams, valley 😅where they disappeared??
@@monotfrommeccamonotfrommec1520 the Quran is full of lies so that could be one of them.
The look on the other guy's face when Arul called it 'a cock and bull story' 😂😂😂
Bcos this so called arul guy sounds stupid...its hillarious how hard hes tryingto talk like a european 😂
Arul is undefeated with this point
The guy doesn't want the young man to get it he is trying to disrupt him he is busted
Bingo! The heckler said you win that point Mecca doesn’t existed in pre Islamic
Mecca did not even exist during the time of Muhammad. All the stories that the Koran claimed happened in Mecca and Medina actually happened in Jerusalem and Petra.
Two complete Bibles Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus, centuries before Momo started his mission.
God bless you in your efforts brother. Your patience and manner is commnendable with these people. May the Holy Spirit be with you
The second guy trying to give lessons of islam. He was not being spoken to from the beginning. They do not want to talk about the topic. Deflect, deflect, deflect.
They used to pray to Petra! If they follow Abraham, they have to follow the ten commandments. That mean thou shalt not kill! That means God does not allow jihad! Fast way to get to Hell! The Kaba'a is Babylonian, also.
Wish your videos were a bit longer. 👍 I really enjoy them.
NO EVIDENCE UNTILL 8TH CENTURY!!!!!!!
Moeslim claim, Abraham built Kabah and they claim Musa Abraham is Islam. Ask them, which book in Quran tell about their histori like in the Bibel on Torah
Where in the Bible Mecca is mention anywhere because it did not exist.
The guy said he is not educated enough on that topic. That should have been the end of the discussion with him. The other guy was ready to talk. You should have engaged him instead
Mecka did not exist, I googled and found the answer.
No archaeology, not on a single map, not on trade routes. There were no references until the Abbasid era.
Major kingdoms in Yemen, Aksum, North Arabia - Nabateans and also the Romans made an expedition to South Arabia in 1st and 2nd centuries - no mention of Makka either.
Macoraba is in another place in Arabia
Waffle, waffle and more waffle. With a pure Islamic Takiya ending. As per usual.
Now so very boring
and predictable!
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Stay blessed
And keep raising this issue
Please ask Dr.Jay and he will show proof there was no such name Mecca.
Is it in TH-cam
Yes. I think it's pfander videos channel, but if you search him I'm sure you'll find him.
The UK has already imported too many of their fighters. They need not reinforcements.
Great sir
Mecca did not show up on any ancient/historical map until 174 years after Muhammad supposedly died.
According to the Qur’an, Mecca was the first and most important city in the world. Adam placed the black stone in the original Ka’ba (sanctuary) there, while Abraham and Ishmael rebuilt the Meccan Ka’ba centuries later (Sura 2:125-127). Mecca was allegedly the centre of Arabian trading routes before Muhammad’s time.
Yet there is no archeological corroboration for this. Such a great ancient city would surely have received a mention in ancient history. However, the earliest reference to Mecca as a city is in the Continuato Byzantia Arabica, an 8th century document. Mecca is certainly not on the natural overland trade routes- it is a barren valley requiring a one hundred mile detour. Moreover, there was only maritime Graeco-Roman trade with India after the first century, controlled by the Ethiopian Red Sea port Adulis, not by the Arabs. If Mecca was not even a viable city, let alone a great commercial centre until after Muhammad’s time, the Qur’an is seriously in doubt.There are many Greek, Roman, Persian, and Byzantine geographers who have made detailed maps of the Arabian Peninsula between 500BCE and 300CE and on none of these maps does a city called Mecca (or even another name in the same location) simply because at these times Mecca did not existSyria Palaestina
The name was revived by the Romans in the 2nd century ce in “Syria Palaestina,” designating the southern portion of the province of Syria, and made its way thence into Arabic, where it has been used to describe the region at least since the early Islamic era.Quran does not mention Palestine even once. Many Muslims do not know that their Quran never mentions Palestine even once, and mentions the name Israel 43 times (Bani Israel, sons of Israel), and clearly says that Allah has ordained the holy land for them
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Ha ha ha ... Sam dawah is terrified, he knows Islam is dying and his TH-cam payments will soon be ceasing!!!!
53-6 = full of pain and tear
53-9
Where is Mecca mentioned in the Bible?
Eastern Lebanon.
Sam is a compulsive liar does not know the things he is talking about just because he is saying something that does not mean he is answering
Hahaha oh Abdools 🤣🤣
So foolish and that indian hindu accent trying to talk like a european
Geograhical history show mecca not on maps till 9th century
Q "What's the evidence for Mecca?"🧐
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A "What about this other thing?" 🤷🏻♂️
It would be laughable if it weren't tragic.
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abdool historical fact is his book. dufus doesnt even see it. he assume there is others.
his first few lines already silly since he said its in the bible.
They don't worship Mecca but how about kissing stone.
The stone you hindus want to conquer mekkah for? Youll say krishnas lingam whatever that is is lost in the kaaba....wth
Hypocrisy is a growing religion, just proves how gullible and misguided most people are, blind faith is just blindness
Just pray to the one god no matter what religion are you as long you don't worship statues
You have to accept Christ died for you to be saved. Your debt of sin is paid off accept that gift and you have eternal salvation.
You've made your point, what is Next?
Next is you leave Islam.
All Abhramic faiths are same, that's why we converted into Hinduism and we are happy we did. JAI SHRI RAM 🙏
you became reincarnated as a Hindu?
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they answer with lies and arrogance
Anyone: What is evidence of Mecca
Muslm: U need to read quran, unserstand its messgae
Anyone: Yeah but am asking what is the historical evidence of Mecca
Muslm: U need to unserstand the qurn
Anyone: Mars am coming...
Proud of you South Asia Christian
Without lies islam dies
Best question what did Muhammad prophesies to be a prophet
Arul is a Tornado, that bring destruction to these people who try and defend the Tornado.
Delhi was Hastinapura that is known since 3500 BCE
They have a Quran (which says nothing about Mohammed's life.
The authentic Hadith written down 200yrs late means
Clear chains of narration about Mohammed's life is hear say for 200 hundred years.
The Gospels where written within the generation of the early disciples.
sorry this does not compute!
god bless you brother 🎉🙏🌹
According to Dr Jay Smith and co Mecca didn't exist in the 7th century. All the early mosque qiblas point to Petra or Jerusalem and there are no 7th century maps that show Mecca. There are also no trading records of a place called Mecca at that time.
They know it too
NOT seeing any reference from the written word in the Bible to any offshoots describing muslims and or islam
100 Reasons that individuals have cited for leaving Islam:
Theological disagreements with Islamic doctrines.
Ethical concerns regarding certain teachings or practices within Islam.
Cultural pressures to conform to religious norms.
Social ostracism or discrimination for questioning or leaving Islam.
Intellectual exploration and critical analysis of religious texts.
Emotional trauma or negative experiences within Muslim communities.
Lack of evidence or rational basis for religious beliefs.
Exposure to alternative worldviews and philosophies.
Doubts about the existence or nature of God.
Dissatisfaction with religious leadership or authority.
Gender inequality and discriminatory practices within Islam.
Restrictions on personal freedom and autonomy.
Skepticism toward supernatural claims and miracles.
Incompatibility between religious beliefs and scientific knowledge.
Desire for a more inclusive and accepting spiritual community.
Conflicts between religious teachings and personal values.
Hypocrisy or moral failings among religious adherents.
Pressure to adhere to religious rituals or practices.
Fear of punishment or condemnation for questioning religious beliefs.
Lack of meaningful spiritual experiences within Islam.
Rejection of religious dogma and superstition.
Influence of secular education and critical thinking.
Exposure to atheistic or secular humanist perspectives.
Disillusionment with religious institutions and hierarchies.
Desire for greater personal autonomy and independence.
Concerns about the historical accuracy of religious narratives.
Personal or philosophical objections to the concept of divine revelation.
Disagreements with Islamic teachings on sexuality and relationships.
Perceived contradictions or inconsistencies within religious texts.
Cultural or geographical distance from Muslim-majority regions.
Influence of friends or acquaintances who have left Islam.
Pressure to conform to prevailing secular or non-religious norms.
Desire to explore alternative spiritual practices or traditions.
Feelings of alienation or marginalization within Muslim communities.
Exposure to religious pluralism and interfaith dialogue.
Trauma from experiences of religious indoctrination or coercion.
Concerns about the treatment of religious minorities in Muslim-majority countries.
Influence of literature, music, art, or popular culture that critiques Islam.
Personal or family history of religious abuse or manipulation.
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Desire for intellectual freedom and pursuit of knowledge.
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Ty for this
They know only how to argue
Qoran is COMIC BOOK
NO FOUNDATIONS!!! 0 🙂
Baca, Valley of-(Ps. 84:6; R.V., “valley of weeping,” marg., “or balsam trees”), probably a valley in some part of Palestine, or generally some one of the valleys through which pilgrims had to pass on their way to the sanctuary of Jehovah on Zion; or it may be figuratively “a valley of weeping.
Eastern Lebanon. Bekkah Valley.
The Muslims can't tell if mecca existed at time of Abraham and so how did they build the Kaaba with Ishmael.
The NT is about God of Abraham,Isaac,Jacob fulfilled his promise on the covenant to Abraham that in him all families of the earth will be blessed
Messiah comes born if blessed Mary and is to the coming king
Mohamed never, ever set foot in the holy land
MUSLIM always laying 👹🥴🥴🤣🤣🤣
That intelligent Christian men is 100 percent right ..there s no evidence of existence of makka what so ever
bro said you win that point whats next lmao 😂 bro really just gave up and said you win its a cock & ball story
Bro looks hurt 😢 lol.
Mecca was not in its geographical position as it is today, because none of the maps of the 5th, 6th 7th century show it in our history.
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This indian guy is so collected love the way he conducts himself
Arul is 100% correct and the first Mosques face Petra.
Worshipping habul (baal).
The Trinidadian is very ignorant. They were having a simple conversation, and he was very disruptive with a silly argument. If Arul answered him, he would surely debunked every argument he has.
MUSLIMS.... ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT, YOURE NOT GOING TO FACE JUDGEMENT AS A GROUP! THEY WONT CALL YOUR SHEIKH OR IMAM TO SPEAK FOR YOU..... FIND YOUR TRUTH SO THAT WHEN YOU STAND FACE TO FACE WITH YOUR ALLAH, YOU HAVE YOUR OWN ANSWERS AND DEFENCE....
Which kalma was read by Adam, Eve,Abraham, Solomon, David, Moses, Jesus.
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In the 6th century A.D., the city of Ta'if was dominated by the Thaqif tribe, which still lives in and around the city of Ta'if today. It has been suggested that Jewish tribes who were displaced in the wars of the Himyarite Kingdom by Ethiopian Christians settled near Ta'if. The walled city was a religious centre as it housed the idol of the goddess Lāt, who was then known as "the lady of Ta'if." Its climate marked the city out from its dry and barren neighbours closer to the Red Sea. Wheat, vines and fruit orchards were grown around Ta'if, and this is how the city earned its title "the Garden of the Hejaz." Both Ta'if and Mecca were resorts of pilgrimage. Ta'if was more pleasantly situated than Mecca itself, and their people of Ta'if had close trading relations. The people of Ta'if carried on agriculture and fruit‑growing in addition to their trade activities.
One would expect such fervent followers of a religion to at least know something pretty important like this .instead of standing about like incredulous sheep. Not even funny!
Why the old qiblas are facing Petra and Jerusalem in the old mosques.
Then why did you , yourself , refer to it as "OLD QIBLA"❓️⁉️🤔🤔 So , you know the answer and yet you're tryna play dumb ⁉️‼️🧐🧐 Is that the teachings of Christianity though❓️⁉️🤔🤔
INDEED PETRA!!!🙂
Because the first muslims (Nabateans) worshipped hubal (baal) in Petra.
@@timmer710 "FIRST MUSLIM"❓️⁉️🤔🤔 How you know they were the #FIRST MUSLIMS❓️⁉️🤔🤔
@@Joorawon.M.Yousuf The first muslims (7th century AD) were roque Nabateans who went to a very tiny settlement called Mecca.
All the old qiblas were facing Petra. Even the one in Eastern China. After the battle between the Nabateans and the roque Nabateans it went to mecca.
Why do they automatically believe their writings are all written and original and true
The two Muslim guys are matured and their argument made sense. The Christian guy, I think, is not giving them the opportunity to explain themselves.
FACTS OVER SENTIMENTS!!!
Jesus is the lord and king ❤
Moses began with Israel through the Red sea .. from Egypt to Arabia : where Jethru was, Moses father in law, at Mount Horeb/ Mount Moriah: where the Law of Moses was given on the mountain! Even Paul the apostle went to Arabia after his salvation into christianity as Galatians 1:17 explains before he returned via Damascus to Israel!
And our father Abraham came out of Ur of the Chaldees in Iraq Gen1:26-32 and his father Terah worshiped idols when God called Abram out of Ur Joshua 24:2 ... as Kanaan/ Israel was promised to Abraham' descendents through Isaac his son to Sarah his wife Gen 26:3
Zacariah 12 .. and Ezk 38 explains clearly that Israel and Jerusalem is the capital and centre of the world! Every nation will hurt themself badly for turning against God's chosen people and city Jerusalem!
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He is not Sri Lankan brother, it's a bleessed land
"My friend my friend" haha 😂😂😂
BACA, VALLEY OF (עֵמֶק הַבָּכָא, emeq habbakha'). A valley that may have been on a pilgrimage route to Jerusalem (Psa 84:6). The Hebrew word בָּכָא (bakha') is associated with balsam or weeping; thus, the name could be symbolic.
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if mecca existed the romans would have known
PETRA.... PETRA..... PETRA.......
Who gave the name of India , before it was just land
The first recording in history of Mecca was 741 AD by the Roman Byzantine Empire
Every archeologists and historian agree that Mecca could not have existed before the 4th Century
No Abraham went to Mecca 3 thousand years ago and built the Kabba
Islam debunked
He ia honest to say he is not educated on that... Like the rest of the 100% of the Muslim...Because none of them are able to ansewer to that question. I am a Christian Catholic, I do not believe in CHurches lies, but at least I do not impose my culture beleives like the Muslim want to do....Respect love you all
Man with board behind 😆 feels pity on him since he has nothing to do.....
The beard fellow got scared