The IWATA ECLIPSE HP-CS (long term review)
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- Let's take a look at my favorite airbrush ever made, the Iwata Eclipse HP-CS. The eclipse is a dual action, gravity fed airbrush with a .35mm needle and nozzle. This makes it an excellent choice for a general use airbrush. Within this airbrush review I'll go over all the data I'd want to know before buying an airbrush including spray characteristics, air speed, and controllability.
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00:00 iwata eclipse hp-cs
01:07 eclipse specifications
02:16 chrome
02:57 breakdown
06:14 response rate
07:00 line tests
07:56 airspeed
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Beautiful description thank you 🙏🏼 I just ordered one n you made me even more stocked to get mine in a few days!! Love your content and your work is amazing man omfg!!!
thank you and great choice on the eclipse!
Wow!!!! Amazing Work!!!! Thanks For The Great Info!!!! 😮🤯👏👍😎
Great review. Thx
The Eclipse is def a work horse. My fav as well.
I said the exact same thing.. if I could only have one airbrush.. it would be the eclipse. It just seamlessly moves between whatever you want it to do.
well said!!
Bill I have to agreed with your comment but one can not stay away from buying more brushes. Don't matter if they Sat in the case for years😊 cheers 👍
@@jc2200 well i tried thinning them out.. still have over a dozen. im not even sure of how many ive had so yes although at this point ive tried most everything. I have no desire for an h&s So the ones that don't sit are..
The eclipse (2 of them one setup as .5 one setup as .35) the 270 and the badger omni. The 290 comes out for some small stuff here and there. and is well a different use case. The 289 sits close for backup And then lately the cheap timbertech ag183 k has taken over a lof from the omni. The rest are not really sitting in waiting but available. which are.
the patriot, grex xgi in .2 , an olympos micron, point zero micron knockoff modified slightly, a badger 100 sg that i never use and a sotar i never use, a krome that i need to order a new nozzle for after losing sits in a box, And an anthem a bottle fed eclipse and another hpcs... then there are some more sitting in boxes I cant really be sure what all is in. And there are the two 130 airbrushes.. a master and a timbertech. (master g22 same as a bd130 fengda)
But I did give some away and recently sold my side freed eclipse and one of my hpcs's. There is not much on the market i really feel the need to buy. But I wouldnt be suprised if I did.. actually there is one someone keeps asking about......
@@TheAIRspace an incredible collection. i need to try out the grex line. They just seem a bit expensive for what they are. Will get one some day for sure.
@@theartworkshop i need to do a review on the xgi. They are well built and durable but I dont particularly like them. they also have way higher air volume than most brushes.
You can get the barebones no green stuff xgi around 120 ish bucks I think.
Not having multiple brushes sucks but for now the eclipse is doing it so
Hi there! Absolutely love your channel, all your tutorials. You are an absolute master at this and the sole reason I’m getting back into art. Thank you so much for this. Silly question. I have the eclipse HP-CS, When you say working at 20 psi, do you mean 20 psi with just air passing through or do you mean 20 psi when spraying paint. I noticed mine drops by about five psi down to 15 once paint enters the chamber. Thank you in advance! Kyle
happy to hear that. thanks! I mean 20psi when I'm spraying the paint. I always set my psi while pressing down on the airbrush trigger so that it is spraying air. So while it's not in use the psi will read higher (usualy+5 or so psi), but once you start spraying it'll read around 20. Hope this helps!
Give yourself credit too. Looks like you’ve done a great job taking maintaining the airbrush. I do agree, Iwata are excellent airbrushes.
thanks- I def tried to maintain it the best i could!
Another vote for best.
I'd have to agree on this being the best overall airbrush ever. It's like in boxing where there's one person who is the best "pound for pound" boxer across all the weight classes. This is the airbrush equivalent of that. Taking everything into consideration, it just comes out to the best overall airbrush ever.
When people ask me which airbrush to get for getting into the hobby I usually recommend a H&S Ultra for starters but tell them to upgrade to an Eclipse if they find themselves enjoying it. For about 90% of people, the eclipse is the last airbrush they'll ever need to buy.
excellent points here! I need to check out the H&S ultra. It does seem like a great starter brush.
@@theartworkshop I am not actually a big fan of the H&S Airbrushes in general,. their triggers feel too lose for me. Like you, I prefer a tighter trigger. However, the Ultra is best for beginners because it's so easy to clean. The nozzle system that all the H&S airbrushes share are super easy to clean and beginner friendly and for 70 Euro the ultra is a a good entry point into the hobby I feel like.
@@NoUseForAName06 i agree. They are so easy to break down and clean. I'll take your advice here and order an ultra to review in the future. thanks!
@@theartworkshop I'd be interested in what you have to say about the ultra compared to the infinity. Both use the exact same nozzle and needle, so it always felt odd to me that one is marketed as a high end airbrush and the other is so much cheaper when some of the most important parts are completely identical. It would be interesting to hear from you how much of a difference there really is. It just doesn't make any sense to me that they'd be so far apart in terms of pricing.
Mark! I have not use the eclipse. I have seen lot of airbrush artist considered this one the 🐐 of them all. Maybe the closest thing i have to that one is the kustom ch! ! Great review! Thanks
Thanks JC! Kustom ch is basically the same thing. awesome airbrush! different nozzle but very similar.
I mean, you had this airbrush for 15+ years, It must be a really good/reliable product. 👍
Eclipse Takumi is very nice
Although GSI Creos 289 is a 0.3mm with Custom Micron air chamber so I may vote for that
I actually bought both of them to review! The ps-289 looks incredible and Im excited to test it out
What about the O-Ring? Do you switched to teflon one?
Hi, which compressor do you use with this one?
A needle backstop handle is available for this brush.
Ive tried a good many airbrushes, including badger 150, H&D Ultra and the eclipse HP BS. Finally got a HP CS and I will never use the others again. The HP BS sprays well but the cup is too small for large applications. HP CS is perfect in every way.
So to be clear, this brush does not allow the user to adjust the amount of paint being sprayed, or to thin or wide spray pattern, by turning a rear knob?
The Eclipse is the best at its cost performance of Iwata, the Revolution is although cheaper, the effect is not so good. However, the performance improvement of the The Hi line or Custom Micron is not so obviously than the money you throw up. If you only want to use one airbrush, just the Eclipse
You know what I think..... This is a great new look on this classic. As you know I have an Eclipse. I just bought a secondhand (2nd) HP-CS off ebay. It looked brand new at a big price reduction. I was guessing maybe it had been used once or twice and the guy/girl...etc. didn't know how to clean it or it had a bent needle or fooked nozzle.. Both were right. Needle is bent. Not sure about the nozzle until I get to my dads who has a microscope. And it was filled with dried paint. Long story short. Paint cleaned out, I rolled the needle on a flat surface and polished it. She works. Will find out tomorrow under the microscope if all is good. If not, It's a new needle and nozzle which is fine... Quick question if you don't mind Sir: Of course I have an old H&S Infinity. I bought a new 0.15 needle for it (The bend, It wasn't my fault) when I recieved it I realised it was Version 2 and my old one is version 1. Is it compatible with my version 1 nozzle? (Sorry for the wall of text and I hope you are doing well) I just can't get over all these great videos.
Yes, you can change your H&S airbrush needle I did with mine
Thanks! A microscope is so useful. I use one all the time when something goes wrong with my airbrushes. Yes, the H&S needles (version 1&2) both work with all their nozzles. Just make sure you have the same, like a .15 needle with a .15 nozzle.
O meu prefeirdo é esse também, gosto de trabalhar com 2 aerografo o Eclipse e o NEO. Me fez uma parceria perfeita aqui para mim. Abraços!
the eclipse and neo is a perfect combination!! great choice
I was thinking of replacing my Iwata HP-CS (which I've had for years) as I was/am getting constant bubbles in the paint cup. I kept cleaning the brush to hospital grade sanitation levels but still I get bubbles. Then I found out about the teflon packing ring deep inside the airbrush. I've ordered a replacement and hopefully that will fix the problems. Can you show a video on how to remove & replace this part please? I'm really impressed with your art, incredible stuff.
thanks so much. The teflon ring is called the needle packing screw. I made a video on how to replace it awhile ago. Hope this helps- th-cam.com/video/qkhbteMtFak/w-d-xo.html
I just got one from Amazon extremely happy with it definitely sprays better than my cheap Fenga FE-183k and my Paasche VL , but one question please I wanted the 3.5 option which I ordered and due to my OCD I just whated to confirm that's the one I have got as they do others , but I can't find the size anywhere even under my magnifying light , surely it says the size somewhere...!! My others do but I can't find it anywhere so where does it state what size set up you are using ...?? All the best
I think you mean the .35 nozzle over the .5. Easy to tell- the eclipse airbrushes (hp-cs, hp-bs, & Hp-takumi) come with the .35. The bottom/bottle feed one (hp-bcs) is the only one that comes with a .5. You can see the difference easily because the larger .5 (from the hp-bcs) is a single piece nozzle, all in a single color. The .35 has that small nozzle on the front of it, like you see in this video. Hope this helps.
The eclipse is a bad ass tool. I got the .5 conversion kit for when i spray larger projects and thre nozzle for that is one piece like the badger you showed. I don't understand why they made the 35 a 2 piece nozzle but any way, just a bit of info for you
that's smart. I need to check out the .5 for the eclipse. The iwata revolution is a .5, but it's the screw in design.
@@theartworkshop its a pretty good setup. The eclipse pushes so much volume of air that it's great for a larger set up. I used it allot for spraying candy or basecoat before I got my creos ps290, which is also a great airbrush/ mini gun. Now I use these eclipse with the. 5 when I do t-shirts and such
@@TheDarkArtist66 im like you, got the .5 conversion on my 2nd eclipse. Am thinking about the 290 and that fan spray/bigger model pieces. I spray mainly gundam plamo in MG 1/100. you think i should get the 290? or is it too much of a side grade compared to eclipse .5 conversion?
Now for the eclipse
Good
not produced, don't buy, warned an American painter friend of mine, the man was right, I bought 5 eclipses, all of them had flaws
Maybe a question for a different video. Can I use latex based paint (like from Home Depot/Lowes) in an airbrush? Would I just need to thin it like I do with acrylic paint? Thanks. Love your videos.
I've actually done this a few times for large backgrounds but I'd never recommend it. It sprays awful and you need to bump the psi up to 40 or so. Lots of clogging and can't be good for the airbrush. Best to stick with an airbrush paint bc the pigments are ground to a much smaller size.
@@theartworkshop I'm working on a project that I want specific colors (I've got the RGB and CMYK color codes). I was thinking of using those codes to get the paint from Lowes/Home Depot. Do you know where I could get acrylic with the specific colors I want?
Question, My Iwata eclipse HP-CS is spraying paint week. Paint I use is Vallejo Air, my PSI 25, Brush is Clean. It's spraying paint in thin lines and coverage takes FOREVER. Please any advice would be appreciated. Thank You
That's usually some dried paint in the nozzle. I'd soak the nozzle in some of that createx restorer and try to poke out the clog with a spare needle. Could also be that your paint has something wrong with it. Try a new bottle without reducer and see if it helps
Когда выкручиваю колпачок сопло остаётся в нем и не выпадает. Как его вытащить не испортив ?
Is there anyway to adjust the distance you have to pull the trigger back to get paint on this airbrush?
No, this one doesn't have a needle limiter on the back. Just a plain handle with a cutout. Hope this helps!
I had just purchased the HP CS today and mine does not have a floating nozzle. It's fused to the airbrush itself. Is this a revision they made in recent years or something wrong? Because I've seen another person on when your other videos make the same comment
it's not fused. You just need to jiggle it out. grab it with you finger and move it back and forth until it comes out
Hi,i got my today and i'm concern with a Warning on description p65 warning, i have a kid. I need to take careful for use?Like gloves or something else. Ty
I've never used gloves, but if you are concerned with anything you should 100% reach out to the company. Iwata is usually pretty helpful if you have questions.
Hi, I already have revolution and thinking about eclipse is it worth it ? i was thinking on changing to 0.3 on revolution but all parts costs 1/3 of new eclipse. I’m miniature painter.
Honestly there isn't much of a difference between the 2 airbrushes. I can paint exactly the same with both of them. The difference between a .5 and .35 nozzle doesn't change much. I'd just stick with the revolution, but thats just my opinion. Best of luck!
@@theartworkshop Thank you soo much. Tou saved me a lot of money
The Iwata Eclipse is basically a gravity fed Paasche VL. The whole design has been around since the 1930's The Micron is a Thayer & Chandler design. Iwata has the nicest fit and finish in the airbrush industry, but their designs are not original.
great info and a fair point. Which Thayer & Chandler model is the design for the micron? I'd love to find one somewhere and buy it to check out. The only precursor to the micron that I was aware of is the olympos, which I believe was a Japanese company.
The Eclipse is nothing like the VL. The VL is is okay for Tee shirts, but for detail work, not so much. It's an air hog and hates low pressure. And The Art Workshop is correct. The original Micron was an Olympos.
@@theartworkshop Thayer & Chandler model A, the head assembly and trigger is the same as the Micron. I think the design of the model A goes back to the 1920's.They no longer make the model A, but you can probably get one used on eBay. Badger bought out Thayer & Chandler. Badger makes their own version of the model A they call the model 100.The Badger sotar 20/20 is a hot rodded version of the model 100. So i guess what was once old is new again.
@@frankiefalconz1848 awesome info. thanks man!
Having a hard time in choosing between the ultra or this one. Which one would you recommend?
well you'll get a biased answer from me since the iwata eclipse is my favorite airbrush of all time. The new ultra is awesome, but I like the eclipse more. Hope this helps and best of luck to you!
@@theartworkshop thank you. 🙏🏻
I'm sure Iwata's are great airbrushes. The Neo is also a .35 needle so what the real difference in performance.
I actually love the Neo. A lot of people seem to dislike it, but I think it's a great little airbrush that sprays and performs incredibly well. The replaceable cups on the neo are awesome. The eclipse is a better build quality and a nicer nozzle design. Performance wise, I can do everything with the neo that i can with the eclipse.
I still have an original Iwata HP-A, HP-B, HP-C (from mid-80s) and an Eclipse HP-CS (from mid-90s).
Can I still get replacement nozzles and needles for them?
I haven't used them in 25 years, but would like to again. Thanks!
Not sure to be honest, but I believe new parts will fit the old airbrushes. Prob best to contact Iwata. They're very helpful with this type of stuff!
@@theartworkshop Thanks! I would expect that the parts would fit. Looks like there may be some after market needles that would fit possibly too.
Nobody builds like Iwata.
i agree!
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