I still remember this day...I had just been at my new job at Martin Marietta in Orlando for a few months and was still in heads down and work mode when people came by to invite me up to the roof to watch the launch (we worked in a 6 story building)...but as I had grown up in Cocoa Beach thru the space race years I had seen all the Apollo moon shots and saw the first couple shuttle launches and I didn't need to see anymore and I just kept working....about 15 minutes later they all came back ashen faced saying it blew up...
Its so depressing how happy Christa seemed. Sad this could have been prevented and even worse that NASA knew not to launch that day because of the cold. Despicable.
It certainly is sad. But let it be a testament to how the life of 1, or 7, or 7,000 won't stop the government from doing whatever it takes to get to where they want to be. That's that saddest thing about it all.
@@patrickfarrell5615 I think the pressure came from Ronald Reagan who had been slated to speak with Christa in the orbiter at a given time with no chance due to his schedule to do it another time. Just sayin'...
If you never been at a shuttle launch it’s a terrible thing to realize. I move to Florida in 2009. We went to very launch. The best ones were the night launches. The ground is shaking, car alarms are all gone off at the same time, night turns to day, it is so bright. It brings tears to your eyes and a lot of pride. Blessed to see these babies go up. And land.
My father was a aerospace engineer at NASA Johnson Space Center in Clear Lake Texas we love to watch the launches together when I turned around to ask my dad what had happened my father had tears running down his face he knew exactly what had happened.
I attended school with the nephew of the school teacher that was on this voyage. Sadly it goes to show that a lot of mechanical engineering measures were overlooked. Nothing man made is designed to last, or be 100% effective...
the crew survived the breakup..and it was declared that some of the crew were concious in the cabin as it tumbled for 2 minutes before hitting the ocean.
@Kyle Gildersleeve its not bullshit. There have clear photos that it was still intact. Also, all of their bodies were recovered which would have been nearly impossible if it blew up. There would have also been reports of body parts if it did explode. They survived and fell for 2 minutes knowing they would die.
@@OoOMonkeyCoFreakOoO The bodies weren't recovered, only body parts were. The body parts that could be identified were given to the families; the rest of the body parts that couldn't be identified were buried at Arlington National Cemetary.
Everyone thought they were too intelligent and too wise for a mistake to happen, but apparently not. It makes you wonder how many other astronauts went into space and it was simply good luck that they came back.
There was a Discovery flight a year prior where the primary O-ring failed and the secondary O-ring was damaged by hot gasses. The root cause? Cold weather (I believe the launch temperature was something like 10 degrees C/50 degrees F). Some Thiokol engineers had been ringing alarm bells ever since that flight but weren't listened to until it was too late.
THANKYOU SO MUCH THIS IS A LONG SOUGHT AFTER TREASURE. In Australia this documentary was shown edited on a Sunday Morning Show and I only had a partial poor TV signal copy and after 26 years of searching youve uploaded this the ENTIRE Countdown to Disaster. I had even written to the TV Station way back in 1987 but alas NOTHING so THANKYOU for this upload. I really cannot believe it and am SO GRATEFUL for this and all the Space Treasures youve uploaded that we NEVER saw in Australia!! MANY THANKS AGAIN!!!
The shuttle was a bureaucratic mess...An awful design, that was destined to fail...Most overpriced, and dangerous spacecraft thats ever been shit onto a launchpad
Morton is a sub contractor, independent of NASA but seem to be at their mercy regardless. It was an ill advised and irresponsible decision, one that destroyed that magnificent 7 crew. A year before that in Jan 85, they launched at 54 deg and had issues. Media was calling NASA comically errant and people were growing irritated but that shouldnt have mattered, yet it did IMO. One thing I find bizarre is that critical info on ice and temp didnt reach proper management levels!?? Those idiots in upper mgmt shld have been making every effort to retrieve that data, not have to be found. Its so ridiculous. God bless them all and I sure wish Judy could have gone up more times for us, that lady did some brilliant things when she went up in 84. Semper Fidelis
I just read an article about shuttle engineer Bob Ebeling telling his wife the night before the launch that it would explode due to the cold weather affecting the O ring that failed. He and several other engineers from Morton Thiokol tried to persuade NASA to delay the launch for a few days but they refused.
+james street Roger Boisjoly remembered telling his "we killed 7 astronauts this afternoon, but otherwise it was a good day' disturbing part? he said this the night BEFORE the launch
MrAragon131 Exactly. It's a shame that no one listened to these people who KNEW about how the components of the shuttle function in different temperatures. The question is "Why didn't they listen?"
james street according to Alan McDonald they told Morton Thiokol to make a "management decision" or risk losing Nasa as a customer. Contracts worth hundreds of millions. TK kept the contracts and 7 people died.
MrAragon131 Unbelievable. So 7 people were killed and they lost a billion dollar shuttle. It makes you wonder if they actually DO put money before the life of the astronauts. I wonder how they felt watching the shuttle explode. How did they feel looking these engineers in the eye after what they said would happen, happened? How did they feel looking at the families of the lost after making such a blunder? Did they think to themselves "If only we had listened and not been so thick headed." It's too bad criminal charges couldn't be brought against these people. I worked at a place once where the company wanted the crane operator to make a lift. He told them the crane had a malfunction that needed to be fixed before they could make the lift. They told him to either make the lift or he was fired. He refused, he was fired. They hired a new crane operator and when he was making the lift, sure enough the crane malfunctioned. One person was severely injured, 2 others were killed. The fired crane operator agreed to testify in court against the company. GROSS negligence was proved (which such a monetary reward comes out of the owners pocket) and the company went under. Tens of millions and the loss of a company all for something that would have cost less than 10k to fix. Plain and simple---GREED.
From looking at this after many years, it is so sad. This could have been avoided if people had listened to the warnings. There were so many objections and they still launched. SMH 😕
Saddens me. The crew put their lives in the hands of people they trusted to do their job and not put them in harm's way. Totally disgusting! I don't know what happened to the people who were responsible for this disaster, but I hope and pray they lose their job(s) over this. Unacceptable.
its amazing how it got delayed at least five times and hoping it would be a success...i wonder who is accountable for this tragedy that could have been prevented..
NASA management at the Marshall Space Flight Center in Alabama. Namely, Lawrence Mulloy and William Lucas. It was Mulloy who made the arrogant comment on the conference call asking Thiokol if they wanted him to wait to launch in April. They were also the ones that put in a waiver to keep the shuttles flying, as they considered the issue with the O-rings on the SRBs an acceptable risk, despite Thiokol stating that a failure of the O-rings could lead to the loss of the orbiter and the crew. NASA's rule was that if there was a failure in a redundant part, the shuttles can't fly.
I was thirteen years old in the sixth grade My baby sister turned ten that day I stayed home to see the launch but I only saw a recap What I saw shocked me beyond belief I wondered if by some miracle could they have survived I remember my mother telling me no They were all heroes who bravely ventured forth to ensure we live in a better world but sadly that was not to be
The joint issues were NOT addressed, and in actuality made even worse when NASA started using the Super Lightweight Booster Segments. The lightweight segments had less metal, which meant it was thinner and made the joint flexing even worse. It's like they thought "if we can't fix the problem, let's make worse"
If the wind hasn’t been so high, the joint might have held. The Columbia report said it was felt NASA still didn’t learn. The foam shed issue popped up just two flights after Challenger. That Atlantis mission had more damage but in less sensitive areas. And they saw the foam hit Columbia and again didn’t think it was a problem.. Once again they knew they had a problem and failed to fix it and a shuttle was lost.
The report here mentions that Roger Boisjoly was reassigned to a taskforce to redesign the boosters for safety. What it doesn't mention is he only ended up on that taskforce because the Rogers Commission heaped massive pressure on Norton Thiokil to put him there, when they learned that Thiokol management has decided he was a traitor for testifying against them and had reassigned him to a nothing job ("scheduling", when there was nothing to schedule because the shuttle was still grounded) under the expectation that he would resign. Whistle-blowers often suffer terribly for raising the alarm, and there needs to be better protections in law for such people, otherwise people who know something that we need to know will be too afraid to come forward until it's too late and even then still might not for fear of reprisals.
With the way NASA was managing the program a disaster would've eventually happened, if not that fateful day. Sad for all those involved in the lives that were lost and those that did not want to see the launch happen that morning.
16 mulfordj yes because not taking risks is how humans progress. If we didn't take ANY RISKS that could take a life, we'd still be living in caves. But yeah this specific risk should not have been overlooked.
Dear you can say things about driving in a car or flying in an airplane or taking a train, the spirit of fear not the way to live life or progress in anything. Unexpected catastrophes are always gonna take place all around us in life but if you let them stop you then we'll never grow or get anywhere further to make anything even greater. Just like Titanic it's complacency that caused this to happen, overlooking important things that should never be overlooked to begin with only because of the fact that nothing has ever happened yet before that's ever resulted in a major catastrophe. Sadly this is mostly the only way we can ever learn to do better.
i really share the dramatic shock & feelings of flight control engineers in the control hall. please scientists the future hopes of the planet never give up to such incidents i respect u more than any one except the creator of the universe!!
Always amazed that following the investigation into the many failings of NASA that no one was held accountable for some sort of criminal negligence charge.
Ticks me off when i hear them talking about launches being routine if was not routine in 1986 or even in 2003 when the second space shuttle crash happened
I guess because there had already been quite a few launches in the early 80's it had become "routine" to them. Even the president Reagan said something about how we were not as easily impressed anymore.
I was always told that God ALWAYS sends WARNING before your destruction. God was warning them over & over again to abort by all the delays in hopes that they would discover that they were doomed. They just cared too much about "doing it" and what people would think, not to mention MONEY. This could have definitely been AVOIDED. RIP.
NASA lied to the public, they first stated that the crew members died instantly. Not true, they died when they hit the water. Actually their cabin,suffered no damage.
They were unable to determine if the cabin suffered damage because it was utterly destroyed in the water impact. They were however able to determine that the forces involved in the breakup weren't sufficient to cause death or serious injury. They also recovered several personal emergency air packs that had been activated, indicating that some of the crew were concious long enough to activate them, and recovered cockpit control panels had switches set to a position they normally wouldn't be in, indicating that the crew member sitting next to those panels was concious long enough to begin emergency procedures. How long the crew remained concious after the breakup depends on whether or not the cabin lost pressure, and nobody knows for sure whether it did or not.
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I never knew until now that the Rockwell company also objected strongly to the launch. That's not just one but many from two companies openly stating to beware. And the astronauts did not have so much as an iota of a clue that a problem with the O rings existed and had exited for a long while. and was being discussed fervently right up until the launch.
Imagine being one of those engineers knowing there was a good possibility that the there was going to be a disaster and not being able to do anything about it.
Impact with the ocean would have killed any survivors instantly, the impact force was about 200g. That's enough that the crew's safety harnesses would have dismembered them.
So basically beauracracy brought down the shuttle. What is so sad is they brought that school teacher into it. They had been playing it up the whole summer before the launch.
sara no, because rubber O rings don’t expand properly in low temperatures. They remain tough, and shrunken. The engineering crews knew this, and they told the big wigs of NASA.....but, NASA brushed them off.
In aviation we call this tombstone mentality (we wont change it unless the deaths and compensation outway the original cost to fix it) take a look at Alaska 261 and valujet 592 two very disgusting examples of tombstone mentality
They should have made the booster rockets dispensable and the command area with the ability to eject and also I doubt wether the insulating foam was essential.
Physics was part of the problem. It would’ve been safer in the original shuttle design but the military wanted a bigger cargo bay and the orbiter had to go on the side rather than the top
It was ridiculous to try and launch in such cold weather. The engineers warned them but NASA just had to ignore safety precaution to make news. The arrogance of it all. Instead of listening to sound advice they took a chance nothing bad would happen. I was watching this live from the West Coast, pregnant with my first child. My family gathered around the t.v....it was terrible seeing the explosion and the families in the stands. John Denver had asked to be the first civilian to go up but they chose Christa. That same day, President Ronald Reagan was due to give the State of The Union address but he cancelled. Out of respect and honor for the tragedy that occurred he spoke only of those lives lost. It hurt him along with the rest of the country. Honestly, I don't see the point to waste money on a space program. That money could be spent to help our planet but for some reason they think it's important. That's just my opinion, others may feel differently.
11:30 Why democracy is flawed and why the World's problems should be tackled by engineers and scientists should take the lead, not politicans/administrators/managers.
This was and still can't believe this happened 30years ago, Not only the women in the mission but the amazing others men and all deserve pur respects and admiration. They shouldn't passed away that awfully way. God bless them all
Who the hell was Mulloy to ridicule and discount Thiokols engineer Roger B and his professional expertise and conclusion??? Nobody! Yet he could effectively rebuke Thiokol and had overriding authority regardless. Thiokol had a hand in this disaster as well, the upper mgmt that over rode Roger and McDonald🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🙆🏻♂️🙆🏻♂️
I was nearly seven months old.seen on a special. Although President Ronald Reagan 's fault about Challenger Disaster and 17 years later when President George W.Bush 's fault about Columbia Disaster .
I think the disaster could have been avoided if they had today’s technology like cameras from every angle as well mounted on SRBs and the shuttle. So if they saw any abnormality they could’ve abort the mission.
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Roger Boisjoly was a very brave man; to stand up and tell the truth as he did. RIP Challenger crew - heroes all. x
I was 9 years old back in "86" and remember seeing this event happen on that day people in my classroom was crying because of the tragedy
I still remember this day...I had just been at my new job at Martin Marietta in Orlando for a few months and was still in heads down and work mode when people came by to invite me up to the roof to watch the launch (we worked in a 6 story building)...but as I had grown up in Cocoa Beach thru the space race years I had seen all the Apollo moon shots and saw the first couple shuttle launches and I didn't need to see anymore and I just kept working....about 15 minutes later they all came back ashen faced saying it blew up...
a disaster could have been averted. They knew what the problem was.
Complete and utter arrogance. That got seven wonderful people killed.
@@goforwand31 14 actually. Columbia was caused by similar stupidity
Its so depressing how happy Christa seemed. Sad this could have been prevented and even worse that NASA knew not to launch that day because of the cold. Despicable.
It certainly is sad. But let it be a testament to how the life of 1, or 7, or 7,000 won't stop the government from doing whatever it takes to get to where they want to be. That's that saddest thing about it all.
Greed.
@@patrickfarrell5615 I think the pressure came from Ronald Reagan who had been slated to speak with Christa in the orbiter at a given time with no chance due to his schedule to do it another time. Just sayin'...
Contract renewal and schedule pressure was put before crew safety. Those managers would have listened to anything that would prevent a launch scrub.
Very sad she never got to experience going to space, she sounded like a lovely person.
If you haven't visited the McAuliff planetarium in Concord, I urge you to go. It's a wonderful experience & a great tribute to a lovely, brave lady.
Really? Where is it? What’s the address so that I can go.
If you never been at a shuttle launch it’s a terrible thing to realize. I move to Florida in 2009. We went to very launch. The best ones were the night launches. The ground is shaking, car alarms are all gone off at the same time, night turns to day, it is so bright. It brings tears to your eyes and a lot of pride. Blessed to see these babies go up. And land.
My father was a aerospace engineer at NASA Johnson Space Center in Clear Lake Texas we love to watch the launches together when I turned around to ask my dad what had happened my father had tears running down his face he knew exactly what had happened.
I attended school with the nephew of the school teacher that was on this voyage. Sadly it goes to show that a lot of mechanical engineering measures were overlooked. Nothing man made is designed to last, or be 100% effective...
the crew survived the breakup..and it was declared that some of the crew were concious in the cabin as it tumbled for 2 minutes before hitting the ocean.
scott walker th-cam.com/video/JmxmsWe49UY/w-d-xo.html
scott walker The Shuttle was the most dangerous spacecraft in history...Had no abort, and the astronauts had no way out
@Kyle Gildersleeve its not bullshit. There have clear photos that it was still intact. Also, all of their bodies were recovered which would have been nearly impossible if it blew up. There would have also been reports of body parts if it did explode. They survived and fell for 2 minutes knowing they would die.
@@OoOMonkeyCoFreakOoO The bodies weren't recovered, only body parts were. The body parts that could be identified were given to the families; the rest of the body parts that couldn't be identified were buried at Arlington National Cemetary.
So sad. I still remember it like it happened yesterday.
Your old
+Giggles You're*
+Giggles he's old?
You have a good memory
Christa didn't deserve to pass this way. She was a brilliant, intelligent, and kind teacher. Huge ignorance and lack of humanity on NASA's part. ):
stlouisramsfan03 were you in her class ??? Lol
Amen non of. These amazing heroes deserves to leave us that day, may the memory never forgotten
None of them did, all in charge should have charged with murder
Everyone thought they were too intelligent and too wise for a mistake to happen, but apparently not. It makes you wonder how many other astronauts went into space and it was simply good luck that they came back.
There was a Discovery flight a year prior where the primary O-ring failed and the secondary O-ring was damaged by hot gasses. The root cause? Cold weather (I believe the launch temperature was something like 10 degrees C/50 degrees F). Some Thiokol engineers had been ringing alarm bells ever since that flight but weren't listened to until it was too late.
Kristi Marie The shuttle was an AWFUL design...Destined to fail, and was the most dangerous and overpriced spacecraft ever
A delayed successful mission is better than a failed liftoff with 7 dead astronauts. I am not a rocket scientist, but even I know that.
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I still remember that day.People were un shock. RIP
props to these nasa engineers, top-notch with exceptional standards for safety. too bad nasa didn't listen to them
they had to get the teacher up, otherwise congress would have withdrawn funding
The shuttle was a bureaucratic mess...An awful design, that was destined to fail...Most overpriced, and dangerous spacecraft thats ever been shit onto a launchpad
Morton is a sub contractor, independent of NASA but seem to be at their mercy regardless. It was an ill advised and irresponsible decision, one that destroyed that magnificent 7 crew. A year before that in Jan 85, they launched at 54 deg and had issues. Media was calling NASA comically errant and people were growing irritated but that shouldnt have mattered, yet it did IMO. One thing I find bizarre is that critical info on ice and temp didnt reach proper management levels!?? Those idiots in upper mgmt shld have been making every effort to retrieve that data, not have to be found. Its so ridiculous. God bless them all and I sure wish Judy could have gone up more times for us, that lady did some brilliant things when she went up in 84.
Semper Fidelis
I just read an article about shuttle engineer Bob Ebeling telling his wife the night before the launch that it would explode due to the cold weather affecting the O ring that failed. He and several other engineers from Morton Thiokol tried to persuade NASA to delay the launch for a few days but they refused.
+james street Roger Boisjoly remembered telling his "we killed 7 astronauts this afternoon, but otherwise it was a good day' disturbing part? he said this the night BEFORE the launch
+MrAragon131 he tried SO HARD to get Nasa t postpone the launch. he never fully receoverd'
MrAragon131 Exactly. It's a shame that no one listened to these people who KNEW about how the components of the shuttle function in different temperatures. The question is "Why didn't they listen?"
james street according to Alan McDonald they told Morton Thiokol to make a "management decision" or risk losing Nasa as a customer. Contracts worth hundreds of millions. TK kept the contracts and 7 people died.
MrAragon131 Unbelievable. So 7 people were killed and they lost a billion dollar shuttle. It makes you wonder if they actually DO put money before the life of the astronauts. I wonder how they felt watching the shuttle explode. How did they feel looking these engineers in the eye after what they said would happen, happened? How did they feel looking at the families of the lost after making such a blunder? Did they think to themselves "If only we had listened and not been so thick headed." It's too bad criminal charges couldn't be brought against these people. I worked at a place once where the company wanted the crane operator to make a lift. He told them the crane had a malfunction that needed to be fixed before they could make the lift. They told him to either make the lift or he was fired. He refused, he was fired. They hired a new crane operator and when he was making the lift, sure enough the crane malfunctioned. One person was severely injured, 2 others were killed. The fired crane operator agreed to testify in court against the company. GROSS negligence was proved (which such a monetary reward comes out of the owners pocket) and the company went under. Tens of millions and the loss of a company all for something that would have cost less than 10k to fix. Plain and simple---GREED.
From looking at this after many years, it is so sad. This could have been avoided if people had listened to the warnings. There were so many objections and they still launched. SMH 😕
they had to launch and get the teacher up, otherwise they would have lost funding from congress
Saddens me. The crew put their lives in the hands of people they trusted to do their job and not put them in harm's way. Totally disgusting! I don't know what happened to the people who were responsible for this disaster, but I hope and pray they lose their job(s) over this. Unacceptable.
They should've been arrested and tried for 2nd degree murder.
2up2down703 So nobody was arrested for this disaster!? I hope the old nasa grandpas feel guilty until the end of their lives!
It seems like it was a pride thing, guy "I didn't agree with thaty information and I challenged it" challenge failed.
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I was only 7 months old at the time. I don't remember it, but it's so sad to watch 30 years later :(
Back when Barbara's hair always arrived 3 minutes before she did.
I can't imagine how terrible it must have been in that crew cabin.
I'm kinda glad I wasn't alive yet when this happened.
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its amazing how it got delayed at least five times and hoping it would be a success...i wonder who is accountable for this tragedy that could have been prevented..
NASA management at the Marshall Space Flight Center in Alabama. Namely, Lawrence Mulloy and William Lucas. It was Mulloy who made the arrogant comment on the conference call asking Thiokol if they wanted him to wait to launch in April.
They were also the ones that put in a waiver to keep the shuttles flying, as they considered the issue with the O-rings on the SRBs an acceptable risk, despite Thiokol stating that a failure of the O-rings could lead to the loss of the orbiter and the crew. NASA's rule was that if there was a failure in a redundant part, the shuttles can't fly.
I can't believe that NASA ignored a fundamental rule of science: When atoms are colder, they SHRINK.
gee10000 Not exactly. They just move less and more slowly. Therefore an object shrinks, but not the atoms themselves.
What are you talkin about? The atoms don't move slower, they rearrange and come closer together.
And shrinkage doesnt mean failure necessarily
Miniature atoms are too expensive for NASA
@@colbalt95 lmao. They dont move slower, and they wouldn't in the gas phase as they aren't as close together.
They move as the same speed.
If there was as much fails as I heard like the delays I would have taken that as a sign and said nope not for today and walked away .! Rip
+April Zoe I agree, me too. That's what happens when you don't think for yourself.
Even after the Apollo disaster this happened, then again with Columbia in 2003.
I was thirteen years old in the sixth grade My baby sister turned ten that day I stayed home to see the launch but I only saw a recap What I saw shocked me beyond belief I wondered if by some miracle could they have survived I remember my mother telling me no They were all heroes who bravely ventured forth to ensure we live in a better world but sadly that was not to be
The joint issues were NOT addressed, and in actuality made even worse when NASA started using the Super Lightweight Booster Segments. The lightweight segments had less metal, which meant it was thinner and made the joint flexing even worse. It's like they thought "if we can't fix the problem, let's make worse"
so sad I cried for a week
No you didn't! #QuitLying
+Big Guy shut the fuck up I cried for quite some time
+Cheye Chey Oh just STFU...#DamnLiar
@@Memo76ers you're an ass
@@justagirlfromphoenix1023 Just like you jabroni
If the wind hasn’t been so high, the joint might have held.
The Columbia report said it was felt NASA still didn’t learn. The foam shed issue popped up just two flights after Challenger. That Atlantis mission had more damage but in less sensitive areas. And they saw the foam hit Columbia and again didn’t think it was a problem.. Once again they knew they had a problem and failed to fix it and a shuttle was lost.
I feel bad for those people from the challenge of disaster I like them they’re so nice
The report here mentions that Roger Boisjoly was reassigned to a taskforce to redesign the boosters for safety. What it doesn't mention is he only ended up on that taskforce because the Rogers Commission heaped massive pressure on Norton Thiokil to put him there, when they learned that Thiokol management has decided he was a traitor for testifying against them and had reassigned him to a nothing job ("scheduling", when there was nothing to schedule because the shuttle was still grounded) under the expectation that he would resign.
Whistle-blowers often suffer terribly for raising the alarm, and there needs to be better protections in law for such people, otherwise people who know something that we need to know will be too afraid to come forward until it's too late and even then still might not for fear of reprisals.
With the way NASA was managing the program a disaster would've eventually happened, if not that fateful day. Sad for all those involved in the lives that were lost and those that did not want to see the launch happen that morning.
this is why kids
DON'T TAKE RISKS THAT COULD TAKE LIVES
16 mulfordj yes because not taking risks is how humans progress.
If we didn't take ANY RISKS that could take a life, we'd still be living in caves.
But yeah this specific risk should not have been overlooked.
Dear you can say things about driving in a car or flying in an airplane or taking a train, the spirit of fear not the way to live life or progress in anything. Unexpected catastrophes are always gonna take place all around us in life but if you let them stop you then we'll never grow or get anywhere further to make anything even greater. Just like Titanic it's complacency that caused this to happen, overlooking important things that should never be overlooked to begin with only because of the fact that nothing has ever happened yet before that's ever resulted in a major catastrophe. Sadly this is mostly the only way we can ever learn to do better.
13:22 - I wish I could go back in time and stop that bus.
The head Shuttle engineer and others tried to stop it; but the government wouldn't let them
i really share the dramatic shock & feelings of flight control engineers in the control hall. please scientists the future hopes of the planet never give up to such incidents i respect u more than any one except the creator of the universe!!
Monday, March 16, 2020
Will Always Be Remembered.
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Disaster? that was a tragedy!
Always amazed that following the investigation into the many failings of NASA that no one was held accountable for some sort of criminal negligence charge.
I was 8 months old..when this happen
Nobody asked you
mee too, 80's child too
sandy1980ification Nobody asked you either
I was still cooking
God bless em all
strange question perhaps, but does anyone knows the song that starts playing at 1:20
+R Co I don't think its a song
I was sitting on the toilet with a stomach flu, I’ll never forget that terrible day.
I’m sure Christa McAuliffe had many schools named after her. We had an elementary school named after her in Oxnard CA.
NASA fcked up real bad with this...such a tragedy.
my dad took off to tuscon az.when this happened.i got up to watch it.he left a note.he left my mom
im your daddy now and I take great care of your mom as well.
😭😭😭😭 can’t imagine seeing this
Live
Tragic event in 1986.
Ticks me off when i hear them talking about launches being routine if was not routine in 1986 or even in 2003 when the second space shuttle crash happened
I guess because there had already been quite a few launches in the early 80's it had become "routine" to them. Even the president Reagan said something about how we were not as easily impressed anymore.
Pretty sure this was the... What, 25th space shuttle flight? Sounds pretty damn routine to me.
I was always told that God ALWAYS sends WARNING before your destruction. God was warning them over & over again to abort by all the delays in hopes that they would discover that they were doomed. They just cared too much about "doing it" and what people would think, not to mention MONEY. This could have definitely been AVOIDED. RIP.
NASA lied to the public, they first stated that the crew members died instantly. Not true, they died when they hit the water. Actually their cabin,suffered no damage.
They were unable to determine if the cabin suffered damage because it was utterly destroyed in the water impact. They were however able to determine that the forces involved in the breakup weren't sufficient to cause death or serious injury. They also recovered several personal emergency air packs that had been activated, indicating that some of the crew were concious long enough to activate them, and recovered cockpit control panels had switches set to a position they normally wouldn't be in, indicating that the crew member sitting next to those panels was concious long enough to begin emergency procedures. How long the crew remained concious after the breakup depends on whether or not the cabin lost pressure, and nobody knows for sure whether it did or not.
I did not know this...🤔🤔🤔
they're still alive.
Nope
Peter Shepherd Micheal Smith is A Professor @ Univ.of Wisconsin,Madison & His B.Day & Place on Faculty Info About him are Identical to Smith's B.Day & Small City in Carolinas.J.Resnick is on Staff @ Yale ,Christine McAuliffe Is Prof.@ Syracuse Univ.GOOGLE IT
Also SSDI,Social Sec.Death Index Has None of the Challenger Crew Members as DECEASED
clglover77 looooool
I never knew until now that the Rockwell company also objected strongly to the launch. That's not just one but many from two companies openly stating to beware. And the astronauts did not have so much as an iota of a clue that a problem with the O rings existed and had exited for a long while. and was being discussed fervently right up until the launch.
11:55 no u concluded your contract was more important then 7 lives
19:30 The next flight was Sept 29, 1988
The ones responsible should never of been allowed to retire. Criminal charges should have been made.
"The smoke is not seen by the controllers, and Challenger continues its ascent."
Aren't they already committed once those SRBs ignite?
im sorry for them everyone on 6-3-16 remember that the challenger blew up
Emily.... What?
No dear it blew up Jan 28th 1986
Barbara Walters and Hugh Downs, may you both rest in peace.
Hey NASA while you're at it don't forget about the foam problem too very crucial
Imagine being one of those engineers knowing there was a good possibility that the there was going to be a disaster and not being able to do anything about it.
Even if tgey missed the smoke at loft off how is it they missed the flame the last 15 seconds
Even if they had noticed the SRB leak there was nothing they could have done any way.
They would have survived the explosion and drowned at the bottom of the water inside the crew capsule.
Impact with the ocean would have killed any survivors instantly, the impact force was about 200g. That's enough that the crew's safety harnesses would have dismembered them.
So basically beauracracy brought down the shuttle. What is so sad is they brought that school teacher into it. They had been playing it up the whole summer before the launch.
+Midnight1971 - I guess you could say "hardheaded idiots" are other words or term for bureaucracy.
Was 28-01-1986.Stuppid people.......rip Space angels ++♥♥♥God is whit you .......
I will forever dislike NASA
so what happened to the bodies
The remains that were identifiable were returned to their families and what wasn't identifiable was buried in a plot together at Arlington cemetery.
I had read that the crew and the shuttle were buried inside a silo on the grounds of Cape Canaveral.
christa for ever in my memory ..
10:42 i just know he regrets saying that.
We're able to start our cars and literally scrape ice off the windshield but you can't get into a giant space ship under those conditions? Crazy
sara no, because rubber O rings don’t expand properly in low temperatures. They remain tough, and shrunken. The engineering crews knew this, and they told the big wigs of NASA.....but, NASA brushed them off.
@@pommiebears LOL I was making a joke!
sara sorry....that went straight over my head..lol! 🌸
In aviation we call this tombstone mentality (we wont change it unless the deaths and compensation outway the original cost to fix it) take a look at Alaska 261 and valujet 592 two very disgusting examples of tombstone mentality
"the best and the brightest"
I remember when that happened.
Switched on CNN in time to see streamers and the man said, we have no downlink.
They should have made the booster rockets dispensable and the command area with the ability to eject and also I doubt wether the insulating foam was essential.
Physics was part of the problem. It would’ve been safer in the original shuttle design but the military wanted a bigger cargo bay and the orbiter had to go on the side rather than the top
The o-ring design was a flaw? 🚀💥💀
It was ridiculous to try and launch in such cold weather. The engineers warned them but NASA just had to ignore safety precaution to make news. The arrogance of it all. Instead of listening to sound advice they took a chance nothing bad would happen. I was watching this live from the West Coast, pregnant with my first child. My family gathered around the t.v....it was terrible seeing the explosion and the families in the stands. John Denver had asked to be the first civilian to go up but they chose Christa. That same day, President Ronald Reagan was due to give the State of The Union address but he cancelled. Out of respect and honor for the tragedy that occurred he spoke only of those lives lost. It hurt him along with the rest of the country. Honestly, I don't see the point to waste money on a space program. That money could be spent to help our planet but for some reason they think it's important. That's just my opinion, others may feel differently.
Management screws up again....
11:30 Why democracy is flawed and why the World's problems should be tackled by engineers and scientists should take the lead, not politicans/administrators/managers.
what a way to bow out ...
Fuck off loser
Cheye Chey Excuse me?
Cheye Chey I know it was a horrible day, did you think I was being funny?
The engineers warned NASA not to launch in the below freezing temperature. They were ignored.
This was and still can't believe this happened 30years ago, Not only the women in the mission but the amazing others men and all deserve pur respects and admiration. They shouldn't passed away that awfully way. God bless them all
It’s weird cause the year is 2020 now and I look at 20/20 I think of our year 😂😅
cara liiiina
god was trying to warn them
Wait are they dead or alive??
Hopefully SpaceX will never let this happen again when we launch Americans into space.
Who the hell was Mulloy to ridicule and discount Thiokols engineer Roger B and his professional expertise and conclusion??? Nobody! Yet he could effectively rebuke Thiokol and had overriding authority regardless. Thiokol had a hand in this disaster as well, the upper mgmt that over rode Roger and McDonald🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🙆🏻♂️🙆🏻♂️
So ironic that two pilots served in Vietnam and were sent to death by their civilian bosses.
15:00 not when the crew cabin is decapitated
This. Is. So. Sad That. Make. Me. Want. To. Cry. So. Bad. .😩💦
Why. How. It. Happened ??
Tell. Me. About. It. I. Don't. Understand. This.
11:33
...but on the bright side, the Bears won the Super Bowl!
So NASA was not hold responsible for that tragedy?
The greatest technological disappointment of the entire 20th century!!!
Reminds me of "Apollo 13".
Except they lived and the Challengers folks didn't.
I don't intend to sound mean or anything, but I feel Barbara Morgan did a disservice to Christa Mcauliffe. If one needs clarification, ask me.
I was nearly seven months old.seen on a special. Although President Ronald Reagan 's fault about Challenger Disaster and 17 years later when President George W.Bush 's fault about Columbia Disaster .
I think the disaster could have been avoided if they had today’s technology like cameras from every angle as well mounted on SRBs and the shuttle. So if they saw any abnormality they could’ve abort the mission.
The boosters were already running by the time it first leaked. There is nothing that could have stopped them...
wow Neil Armstrong @ 12:10